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Topic: AMS Partly Closed Due To WW II Bomb
Username: roberto277
Posted 2012-08-29 01:20:32 and read 10105 times.

A supposed WW2 bomb has been found during construction works at AMS. Part of the airport, C wing, has been closed.

More info see:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...ort-wwiibomb-idUSBRE87S06N20120829 (English)


http://www.telegraaf.nl/reiskrant/12...uigbom_gevonden_op_Schiphol__.html (Dutch only)

Hope it's solved soon. I'm supposed to fly from AMS to LHR tomorrow. Tricky shit those WW2 bombs. From time to time they find those on AMS airport grounds. Bomb squad is on the scene.

[Edited 2012-08-29 01:35:34]

[Edited 2012-08-29 01:37:17]

Topic: RE: AMS Partly Closed Due To WW II Bomb
Username: roberto277
Posted 2012-08-29 03:36:39 and read 9673 times.

From BBC News:

Schiphol closure over 'WWII bomb'

Part of Amsterdam's Schiphol airport has been closed after a suspected World War II bomb was discovered, a spokeswoman said.

The departure hall serving most European destinations has been evacuated as a precautionary measure.

Delays are now affecting some departures and passengers are advised to check their flights before leaving for the airport.

A bomb disposal team is trying to establish whether the device is live.

The bomb was uncovered by workers digging near Pier C, which connects the main plaza with Departure Hall One, serving most destinations within Europe's 26-country passport-free Schengen zone.

"This will have a big impact. We can park planes somewhere else to some extent but at some point it will lead to cancellations or delays," the spokeswoman said earlier, according to Reuters news agency.

Schiphol was used as a military airfield by Nazi Germany during the 1939-45 war, and was often attacked by allied bombers, Dutch media said.

It is now one of Europe's busiest airports, handling some 48 million passengers every year.

Unexploded bombs dating back to the war are still frequently discovered in Europe.

A 550lb (250kg) American bomb was detonated by a bomb disposal team in the German city of Munich on Tuesday.

A 1.5-tonne mortar bomb probably fired by Nazi forces was also safely removed from the Polish capital, Warsaw.

Topic: RE: AMS Partly Closed Due To WW II Bomb
Username: bobnwa
Posted 2012-08-29 04:21:29 and read 9515 times.

Quoting roberto277 (Reply 1):
Unexploded bombs dating back to the war are still frequently discovered in Europe.

A 550lb (250kg) American bomb was detonated by a bomb disposal team in the German city of Munich on Tuesday.

A 1.5-tonne mortar bomb probably fired by Nazi forces was also safely removed from the Polish capital, Warsaw.

Who is the likely culprit for the AMS bomb?

Topic: RE: AMS Partly Closed Due To WW II Bomb
Username: DALCE
Posted 2012-08-29 04:45:29 and read 9394 times.

It's highly likely to be a german bomb, as the location where the bomb has been found has been bombed by the Luftwaffe very intensively on May 10th 1940 by Ju-88's and He-111's. If it is a 50kg bomb, then it was dropped by the Heinkels, whereas the Ju88's had 250kgs bombs in their bellies.

Allied bombardments were aimed at the 'Fliegerhorst Schiphol' as the Luftwaffe called the Schiphol airport during WWII which is more to the eastern parts of the current airport grounds. ( Schiphol-Oost )

Topic: RE: AMS Partly Closed Due To WW II Bomb
Username: TheSonntag
Posted 2012-08-29 05:01:26 and read 9318 times.

While off-topic, today one American WW-2 bomb had to be blown up in Munich because it was impossible to defuse it (long term acid explosion device of unknown state).

The pictures are quite impressive:

http://www.stern.de/panorama/blindga...chen-1885951-3b927fba412b4964.html

[Edited 2012-08-29 05:01:54]

Topic: RE: AMS Partly Closed Due To WW II Bomb
Username: alasdair1982
Posted 2012-08-29 05:06:32 and read 9267 times.

The video of the Munich bomb being detonated is even more incredible!

Topic: RE: AMS Partly Closed Due To WW II Bomb
Username: keegd76
Posted 2012-08-29 05:20:21 and read 9170 times.

Quoting DALCE (Reply 3):
Allied bombardments were aimed at the 'Fliegerhorst Schiphol' as the Luftwaffe called the Schiphol airport during WWII which is more to the eastern parts of the current airport grounds. ( Schiphol-Oost )

Don't forget allied bombing during WWII was very inaccurate with RAF bombers, at one point, barely getting their bombs within 5 miles of their target.

Topic: RE: AMS Partly Closed Due To WW II Bomb
Username: stlgph
Posted 2012-08-29 05:38:56 and read 9038 times.

Reports plane from Spain to Amsterdam hijacked

Update - now it's coming across the wires plane, possibly hijacked, landed at Amsterdam, and is surrounded by special forces.

[Edited 2012-08-29 05:42:14]

Third update - Dutch police sent out a wire saying they are dealing with a hijacking situation with a plane on the ground at Schiphol. *HOWEVER* passenger on the plane has called in saying there isn't a hijacking on the plane.


[Edited 2012-08-29 05:44:52]

Topic: RE: AMS Partly Closed Due To WW II Bomb
Username: grimey
Posted 2012-08-29 05:43:22 and read 9000 times.

I just seen this on the headline of the BBC website:

Dutch military sends F16 jets to Schiphol airport after reports of hostage-taking - details soon

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/

Topic: RE: AMS Partly Closed Due To WW II Bomb
Username: tripple7
Posted 2012-08-29 05:52:21 and read 8851 times.

Interesting day at AMS...possible hijacking, WW2 bomb. Sounds like a cheap hollywood flick starring Bruce Willis  

Topic: RE: AMS Partly Closed Due To WW II Bomb
Username: Plainplane
Posted 2012-08-29 06:40:49 and read 8522 times.

Well fortunately, there was no hijacking:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19407429

Topic: RE: AMS Partly Closed Due To WW II Bomb
Username: DALCE
Posted 2012-08-29 06:44:27 and read 8492 times.

Quoting keegd76 (Reply 6):
Don't forget allied bombing during WWII was very inaccurate with RAF bombers, at one point, barely getting their bombs within 5 miles of their target.

I'm fully aware of that! Especially the first years it was bad, that was why I put it as 'highly likely'  

Anyway, press reports now do indeed confirm it was a german 500-pound bomb.
Besides the C-concourse the 06-24 has been closed down as it is to close to the C-concourse.
Specialists are also talking about a possible bigger area that has to be shut down as the bomb is difficult to reach ( under water ). More info to be expected soon

Topic: RE: AMS Partly Closed Due To WW II Bomb
Username: 9MMPQ
Posted 2012-08-29 07:09:46 and read 8376 times.

There's definitely something strange with the Vueling aircraft. It's still sitting near or on 18R with a emergency vehicles still on the taxiway between 18C & 18R .. if it's only a loss of communication they are sure taking a very long time.

Topic: RE: AMS Partly Closed Due To WW II Bomb
Username: EPA001
Posted 2012-08-29 07:30:47 and read 8225 times.

The bomb has been moved to another, more safe location.  

Link (sorry, in Dutch only): http://www.nu.nl/binnenland/2896066/...plaatst-vliegtuigbom-schiphol.html

Topic: RE: AMS Partly Closed Due To WW II Bomb
Username: 9MMPQ
Posted 2012-08-29 07:42:11 and read 8182 times.

Vueling now being towed from the runway.

Topic: RE: AMS Partly Closed Due To WW II Bomb
Username: EPA001
Posted 2012-08-29 07:52:12 and read 8144 times.

^^ The passengers have already left the airplane. So not much drama (fortunately).

Topic: RE: AMS Partly Closed Due To WW II Bomb
Username: keegd76
Posted 2012-08-29 08:21:13 and read 8022 times.

Quoting DALCE (Reply 11):
Anyway, press reports now do indeed confirm it was a german 500-pound bomb.
Besides the C-concourse the 06-24 has been closed down as it is to close to the C-concourse.
Specialists are also talking about a possible bigger area that has to be shut down as the bomb is difficult to reach ( under water ). More info to be expected soon
Quoting EPA001 (Reply 13):
The bomb has been moved to another, more safe location.


Surprised they moved it (and so quickly). If its underwater I'd have thought it would be safer to detonate it in place rather than try and move it. Just the act of moving it could be enough to set it off.

Do we know how close it is to the C-concourse?

Topic: RE: AMS Partly Closed Due To WW II Bomb
Username: Jana
Posted 2012-08-29 09:47:23 and read 7790 times.

indeed it was a GERMAN bomb. GERMAN quality, sustained over more than 60 years.

Topic: RE: AMS Partly Closed Due To WW II Bomb
Username: TheSonntag
Posted 2012-08-29 14:36:03 and read 6320 times.

Quoting Jana (Reply 17):
indeed it was a GERMAN bomb. GERMAN quality, sustained over more than 60 years.

Well, british and american bombs are of equal longetivity... It is amazing (and scary) to see how deadly those old bombs still can be.

Topic: RE: AMS Partly Closed Due To WW II Bomb
Username: SSTeve
Posted 2012-08-29 14:44:10 and read 6245 times.

Quoting Jana (Reply 17):
indeed it was a GERMAN bomb. GERMAN quality, sustained over more than 60 years.

Usually bombs that fail to detonate are considered failures.

Topic: RE: AMS Partly Closed Due To WW II Bomb
Username: KC135TopBoom
Posted 2012-08-29 14:51:57 and read 6184 times.

Quoting bobnwa (Reply 2):
Who is the likely culprit for the AMS bomb?

Most likely the RAF Bomber Command or the USAAF 8th AF.

Quoting SSTeve (Reply 19):
Usually bombs that fail to detonate are considered failures.

They are still dangerous, and can detonate years or even decades later.

Topic: RE: AMS Partly Closed Due To WW II Bomb
Username: lightsaber
Posted 2012-08-29 15:12:31 and read 6008 times.

First, congrats on moving the bomb. Yikes!

Quoting tripple7 (Reply 9):
Interesting day at AMS...possible hijacking, WW2 bomb. Sounds like a cheap hollywood flick starring Bruce Willis

Stallone man! Stallone. I can just see it now. Overly broad, overacting in stuttered mono-syllabic pronunciation.

Quoting EPA001 (Reply 13):
The bomb has been moved to another, more safe location.

Great to hear.

Quoting roberto277 (Reply 1):

A 550lb (250kg) American bomb was detonated by a bomb disposal team in the German city of Munich on Tuesday

Now there is a job.  

Lightsaber

Topic: RE: AMS Partly Closed Due To WW II Bomb
Username: EPA001
Posted 2012-08-29 19:09:17 and read 4828 times.

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 21):
Quoting EPA001 (Reply 13):
The bomb has been moved to another, more safe location.

Great to hear.

And the bomb has been detonated on that safe and secured site.  


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