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Topic: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight
Username: tjwgrr
Posted 2012-10-04 06:38:30 and read 8947 times.

Stumbled across this ET 787 operating PAE-ADD nonstop. That's a seriously long flight..... nearly 9000 sm and 15 hours:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ETH9202

Topic: RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight
Username: ETinCaribe
Posted 2012-10-04 07:39:58 and read 8766 times.

Thanks for sharing tjwgrr. So ET-AOR is finally on her way home. I am surprised ET did not try to make this a one-time rev flight.

Topic: RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight
Username: CM
Posted 2012-10-04 07:45:09 and read 8734 times.

PAE-ADD is only around 7,250nm, which the 787-8 is quite capable of - even with significant payload. Empty, the 787-8 can fly around 10,000nm.

Topic: RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight
Username: seabosdca
Posted 2012-10-04 08:32:11 and read 8570 times.

Quoting CM (Reply 2):
PAE-ADD is only around 7,250nm, which the 787-8 is quite capable of - even with significant payload.

For whatever reason (winds?) their planned route (which the flight appears to be following so far) was far from direct. It's about 7800 nm. Still very well within the bird's capability.

Topic: RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight
Username: tdscanuck
Posted 2012-10-04 10:34:22 and read 8302 times.

Quoting tjwgrr (Thread starter):
Stumbled across this ET 787 operating PAE-ADD nonstop. That's a seriously long flight..... nearly 9000 sm and 15 hours:

It's capable of going over 22 hours empty, so certainly within "easy" range for a delivery flight.

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 3):
For whatever reason (winds?) their planned route (which the flight appears to be following so far) was far from direct. It's about 7800 nm.

There's some ugly weather in the mid-Atlantic and it looks like they were picking up a North Atlantic Track.

Tom.

Topic: RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight
Username: scbriml
Posted 2012-10-04 10:58:40 and read 8208 times.

It flew over to the East of London on it's way to Dover this afternoon. Nice.

Topic: RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight
Username: thenoflyzone
Posted 2012-10-04 19:09:34 and read 7411 times.

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 3):
For whatever reason (winds?) their planned route (which the flight appears to be following so far) was far from direct

The route was flown more south than on a direct routing in order to take advantage of the jetstream.

Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 4):
There's some ugly weather in the mid-Atlantic and it looks like they were picking up a North Atlantic Track

More to do with picking up the jetstream than a NAT track. Airlines regulary cross the north atlantic without being on a NAT track. This is the case for most flights from Europe to the west coast of Canada or California.

Nat tracks are changed daily to take advantage of the jetstream during the evening, or to avoid it during the morning and the early afternoon.

Thenoflyzone

Topic: RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight
Username: something
Posted 2012-10-05 00:01:27 and read 5357 times.

Considering that QF uses old 744s to fly SYD-DFW, EK's DXB-LAX is almost exactly the same distance and flight path and that 737s have been ferried from PAE to Europe non stop, I don't quite see why this is noteworthy. All negativity aside of course..

Topic: RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight
Username: KarelXWB
Posted 2012-10-05 00:10:32 and read 5289 times.

The CC-BBA (LAN) delivery flight took also about 15 hours.

Topic: RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight
Username: ba319-131
Posted 2012-10-05 00:24:57 and read 5188 times.

I saw it on FR24 but there was too much cloud to see it, bummer!

Topic: RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight
Username: hiflyer
Posted 2012-10-05 01:00:46 and read 4933 times.

seems et likes to stretch the legs on their just delivered aircraft. First ferried IAD then flew revenue to ADD! This next one ferries nonstop ADD.

Topic: RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight
Username: dbo861
Posted 2012-10-05 02:30:28 and read 4414 times.

Quoting something (Reply 7):
737s have been ferried from PAE to Europe non stop

This is possible on a 737? It seems like an extremely long flight for a 737, even for a ferry flight.

Topic: RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight
Username: CM
Posted 2012-10-05 03:15:35 and read 4201 times.

Quoting dbo861 (Reply 11):

PAE-Europe is done all the time on 737 delivery flights. Norwegian and Air Berlin are among those airlines taking current delivery streams and both fly their delivery flights direct to their respective bases.

Topic: RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight
Username: ajd1992
Posted 2012-10-05 03:18:38 and read 4173 times.

Quoting dbo861 (Reply 11):
This is possible on a 737? It seems like an extremely long flight for a 737, even for a ferry flight.

If they remove the seats it increases the range by quite a lot as well. The jetstream also helps extend the range as well. Unloaded a 737 can easily fly 3000nm or so.

Topic: RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight
Username: Revelation
Posted 2012-10-05 04:40:31 and read 3665 times.

Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 4):
It's capable of going over 22 hours empty, so certainly within "easy" range for a delivery flight.

Seems a few cortisone shots for the numb butts on the flight deck are in order.

Topic: RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight
Username: tjwgrr
Posted 2012-10-05 05:12:28 and read 3406 times.

Quoting something (Reply 7):
Considering that QF uses old 744s to fly SYD-DFW, EK's DXB-LAX is almost exactly the same distance and flight path and that 737s have been ferried from PAE to Europe non stop, I don't quite see why this is noteworthy. All negativity aside of course..

Sorry- didn't intend to force you to waste your time by reading the thread I started. I thought it noteworthy since it's a brand new 788 on a long delivery flight....   

Exactly why I seldom post on A.net

Topic: RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight
Username: WildcatYXU
Posted 2012-10-05 05:18:03 and read 3344 times.

Quoting dbo861 (Reply 11):
This is possible on a 737? It seems like an extremely long flight for a 737, even for a ferry flight.

NE flew it's 73G nonstop from PAE to PRG as I mentioned here:

Yet Another Long 73G Delivery Flight (by WildcatYXU Mar 19 2007 in Civil Aviation)

Topic: RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight
Username: CM
Posted 2012-10-05 05:28:44 and read 3266 times.

Quoting tjwgrr (Reply 15):

Don't worry about the people who read and take time posting on threads they don't believe should exist. It's not worth your time. Personally, I find the max (empty) range of airliners pretty interesting, so thanks for bringing it up!

Topic: RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight
Username: bikerthai
Posted 2012-10-05 06:21:26 and read 2809 times.

Quoting dbo861 (Reply 11):
This is possible on a 737? It seems like an extremely long flight for a 737, even for a ferry flight.
Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 16):

NE flew it's 73G nonstop from PAE to PRG as I mentioned here:

And on special occasions, a 737 ferry flight can do this . . .

http://blog.thenewstribune.com/busin...ion-of-boeing-737-sets-new-record/

"6,506 miles between the two cities non-stop in 13 hours, 7 minutes and 54 seconds"

bt

Topic: RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight
Username: TC957
Posted 2012-10-05 07:39:46 and read 2517 times.

I seem to recall that when Air Mauritius took delivery of their two B762ER's they were delivered non-stop, PAE - MRU, setting a 767 record at the time. Perhaps someone can confirm this.

Topic: RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight
Username: imiakhtar
Posted 2012-10-05 08:08:26 and read 2455 times.

Quoting TC957 (Reply 19):
I seem to recall that when Air Mauritius took delivery of their two B762ER's they were delivered non-stop, PAE - MRU, setting a 767 record at the time. Perhaps someone can confirm this.

I would be very surprised if that was the case. To the naked eye, MRU seems almost antipodal to PAE.

Topic: RE: ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight
Username: AMSSFO
Posted 2012-10-07 07:19:59 and read 1866 times.

Quoting TC957 (Reply 19):
I seem to recall that when Air Mauritius took delivery of their two B762ER's they were delivered non-stop, PAE - MRU, setting a 767 record at the time. Perhaps someone can confirm this.
http://www.topspeed.com/aviation/avi...eing/boeing-767-200er-ar86596.html

The 767-200ER became the first 767 to complete a nonstop transatlantic flight, and broke the flying distance record for a twinjet airliner on April 17, 1988, with an Air Mauritius 767-200ER flying 8,727 nautical miles (16,162 km) between Halifax, Nova Scotia and Port Louis, Mauritius


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