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Topic: Plane Down At TAPA/ANU Antigua
Username: wahdadli
Posted 2012-10-07 13:58:41 and read 19418 times.

This just in. A Fly Montserrat aircraft is confirmed down at TAPA/ANU V. C. Bird International. Information available indicates that it was an islander type aircraft. The aircraft apparently crash landed shortly after takeoff from the airport. The aircraft came to a stope on the airport property at the end of the runaway. Two persons are confirmed to have died, others are being transferred to the hospital while one person is still trapped in the aircraft. TAPA/ANU is closed.

It's still way to soon to determine the cause of this crash, but weather was not the best here at the time of the crash. There are also reports that persons herd the engines stop and then an impact was herd.

I prey for the crew, passengers and their families.

[Edited 2012-10-07 14:40:38]

Topic: RE: Plane Down At Tapa Antigua
Username: Q
Posted 2012-10-07 14:17:38 and read 19299 times.

http://www.mnialive.com/caribbean/75...ntserrat-on-aircraft-accident.html

Good thing no one was hurt.

Q

Topic: RE: Plane Down At Tapa Antigua
Username: wahdadli
Posted 2012-10-07 14:32:07 and read 19144 times.

Quoting Q (Reply 1):

That is an old article

Topic: RE: Plane Down At Tapa Antigua
Username: wahdadli
Posted 2012-10-07 14:35:55 and read 19119 times.

It is now confirmed that a 3rd person has died on arrival at the hospital. That brings the death tool to 3. It is also confirmed that the aircraft crashed on takeoff from the airport.

Topic: RE: Plane Down At TAPA/ANU Antigua
Username: flightsimer
Posted 2012-10-07 14:44:26 and read 19021 times.

Wait a second, the link in the second post was from April 2011 and I couldn't find anything new.

Topic: RE: Plane Down At TAPA/ANU Antigua
Username: 817Dreamliiner
Posted 2012-10-07 14:55:05 and read 18891 times.

Was just about to go sleep when I saw the message on my phone, right now im in a bit of shock, especially knowing that people died. Dont know yet if anyone I knew was onboard, I really hope not.

Topic: RE: Plane Down At TAPA/ANU Antigua
Username: 817Dreamliiner
Posted 2012-10-07 15:04:45 and read 18812 times.

Just found out that the ill-fated aircraft is VP-MON,

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8037/7997101828_f5ff663618_b.jpg
IMG-20120829-00169 by 817Dreamliiner, on Flickr

Topic: RE: Plane Down At TAPA/ANU Antigua
Username: wahdadli
Posted 2012-10-07 15:15:28 and read 18716 times.

I have just see pictures of the crashed plane. I have issues with posting pictures of events in which persons have died. Therefore I will not post them.

Updated: 3 of the 4 have died. 2 (the pilot and a passenger) died in the crash and the 3rd was DOA at the hospital. The 4th is being treated at the hospital.

THe Airport has reopened for departures.

Topic: RE: Plane Down At TAPA/ANU Antigua
Username: trintocan
Posted 2012-10-07 15:35:41 and read 18571 times.

This is very sad to hear. Condolences to all in Antigua and Montserrat and especially to anyone who lost loved ones in this crash. May the victims rest in peace.

Trintocan.

[Edited 2012-10-07 16:36:28]

Topic: RE: Plane Down At TAPA/ANU Antigua
Username: fd122
Posted 2012-10-07 16:11:16 and read 17975 times.

My condolences to the families of the pilot and passengers. May they rest in peace. I don't know if this is true or not but I heard that lightning struck the plane? I'm currently not in Antigua but that is what my friends were telling me.

Topic: RE: Plane Down At TAPA/ANU Antigua
Username: wahdadli
Posted 2012-10-07 16:17:16 and read 17885 times.

Quoting fd122 (Reply 9):
My condolences to the families of the pilot and passengers. May they rest in peace. I don't know if this is true or not but I heard that lightning struck the plane? I'm currently not in Antigua but that is what my friends were telling me.

There was a lot of rain and lightning this afternoon. but we simply have to wait and see what the results of the investigation is.

Topic: RE: Plane Down At TAPA/ANU Antigua
Username: 817Dreamliiner
Posted 2012-10-08 00:27:37 and read 13712 times.

Update via MNIalive:

Quote:
The Manager of Fly Montserrat, Captain Nigel Harris, has provided MNI Alive with an official statement from the airline regarding the crash of their aircraft, Flight 107, shortly after takeoff from the VC Bird International Airport.

See statement from Fly Montserrat below:

I can confirm that a FlyMontserrat aircraft crashed shortly after take off at V C Bird International airport around 1600 today.

On board were the pilot and 3 passengers.

We are sad to report that three people have died - two passengers and the pilot, Jason Forbes. One passenger has been critically injured and taken to hospital.

The Air Accidents Investigation Branch from the Department for Transport in the UK has been informed and until their team make their report it would be inappropriate to comment further on the cause of the accident.

Our thoughts and condolences are with the families and friends of those on board.

Source: http://www.mnialive.com/lifestyle/is...arding-plane-crash-in-antigua.html

Topic: RE: Plane Down At TAPA/ANU Antigua
Username: andrefranca
Posted 2012-10-08 12:30:33 and read 5792 times.

Very sad! I'm planing to fly with them next year!


my condolences to the families and may the souls R.I.P

Topic: RE: Plane Down At TAPA/ANU Antigua
Username: wahdadli
Posted 2012-10-10 13:05:36 and read 4481 times.

Update:

http://www.antiguaobserver.com/lone-plane-crash-survivor-recovering

The only surviving passenger is recovering in hospital.

Topic: RE: Plane Down At TAPA/ANU Antigua
Username: wahdadli
Posted 2012-10-13 06:06:34 and read 4092 times.

Preliminary Report is out:

St. John’s Antigua- A combination of engine failure and tainted fuel have been blamed for Sunday’s deadly Fly Montserrat crash, a preliminary report revealed.

The Eastern Caribbean Civil Aviation Authority (ECCAA) reported, “examination of the wreckage showed the right hand engine was not producing power at the time of impact. Investigation of the fuel system showed contamination with significant quantities of water.”

One aviation industry expert explained while all fuel contains some amount of water, there was too much in the tank of the doomed plane.

This water, the source said, would have gone to the engine instead of gas, thus, the engine would stop.
The aircraft needs both engines, located on the two sides of the plane, for take off, the source indicated.

Explaining how water could have gotten into the tank, the expert cited several reasons.
“It could be that the fuel tank cap on the wing was not properly sealed; not properly installed or it was leaky for a range of other reasons. It could have also occurred during refuelling if there was rain, but that is unlikely,” the individual noted.
The source said the company’s records and even interviews with other pilots who commanded the doomed aircraft could help determine the exact cause of the fuel contamination.

He said pre-flight inspections are usually done to see whether water is in the fuel.
Additional preliminary findings in the ECCAA report indicated the right propellor was not feathered.
This, another expert said, is either done automatically based on the type of aircraft or has to be done manually by the pilot to create “drag” on the side of the aircraft with the failed engine.

The report, available on The Aviation Herald website further indicated that VP-MON, flight 107 titled to the right shortly after take off at the VC Bird International Airport and stopped climbing while moving right.

As a result the Britten Norman (BN) Islander aircraft lost height and crashed to the ground, right wing first, at low forward speed.

It then cartwheeled before coming to a rest in an upright position, the ECCAA reported.
“The fuselage section forward of the wing was destroyed and the rest of the aircraft sustained comparatively less damage,” the report noted.

Airportdata.com reports the aircraft, built in 1969 as an Islander BN2A, was modified to a BN2A‑26, which gave it a maximum takeoff weight (MTOW) of 6,600 pounds, and a maximum landing weight (MLW) of 6,300 pounds.

While, the Flight Safety Foundation said the aircraft was powered by two Lycoming 0-540 Piston engines and could have carried up to 10 people including the pilot.

The 31-year-old UK-born pilot, Captain Jason Forbes died on the spot in the crash and so did passenger Annya Duncan, 27, of Jamaica.

Another passenger, Sandrama Poligadu, 57 of Guyana died shortly after arrival at Mount St John’s Medical Centre.

The sole survivor of the accident, Michael Hudson of the UK, is said to have seen trouble was ahead due to the movement of the aircraft and he reportedly blacked out just before it smashed into the ground.

Forbes, the ECCAA report said, had a total of 710 hours on his Commercial Pilot Licence (CPL) and 510 hours on type rating.

ECCAA officials assisted the UK’s Air Accident Investigative Branch,which probes such accidents in British Overseas Territories.

Meantime, head of the ECCAA Donald McPhail confirmed the preliminary report was submitted to the Civil Aviation Ministry here, but declined to discuss the findings. And, oversight officer within that ministry, Peter Abraham said, “Once we have it in our hands and we’ve studied it, the necessary release would be made to the media at a press conference.”

Interesting. Once I have a full copy I will post. As stated before there was significant RAIN here before the crash.

Topic: RE: Plane Down At TAPA/ANU Antigua
Username: longhauler
Posted 2012-10-13 08:45:45 and read 3920 times.

Very sad. I always hate to hear of tragedy at my "home town". But in all honesty, it has been a very very long time since an avaition fatality occurred at Antigua.

There was of course, the Pan American B707 that crashed at Montserrat thinking it was ANU in the 1960s. But ... my grandfather used to tell me of another Pan American airplane, a flying boat that crashed in St. John's harbour. But, I have never been able to find any information on it.

Quoting wahdadli (Reply 14):
The aircraft needs both engines, located on the two sides of the plane, for take off, the source indicated.

This is a very curious statement, as the Islander can certainly fly on one engine. However ...

Quoting wahdadli (Reply 14):
Additional preliminary findings in the ECCAA report indicated the right propeller was not feathered.

... if the prop were not feathered, it is less likely to be able to maintain altitude. Either by pilot error, or by mechanical malfunction, that would appear to be a piece of the puzzle to be solved.

Topic: RE: Plane Down At TAPA/ANU Antigua
Username: Aesma
Posted 2012-10-14 13:32:40 and read 3504 times.

Well that text was obviously not written by an expert but rather a journalist, and it's not too bad, but there is this gem saying that feathering is done to create “drag” on the side of the aircraft with the failed engine.

Topic: RE: Plane Down At TAPA/ANU Antigua
Username: wahdadli
Posted 2012-10-16 09:41:32 and read 3181 times.

Another incident at this airline.

Plane Off Runway At MNI/TRPG Montserrat (by wahdadli Oct 16 2012 in Civil Aviation)


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