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Topic: Recommendation For Tracking Flight Apps?
Username: ogshelly
Posted 2012-11-05 20:16:57 and read 929 times.

I will appreciate your recommendations, the one I have is not working properly: flight radar 24. Anything better by chance?

Topic: RE: Recommendation For Tracking Flight Apps?
Username: audidudi
Posted 2012-11-05 20:21:04 and read 929 times.

Quoting ogshelly (Thread starter):

Try Planefinder. I use both on my IPhone and Planefinder seems to be closer to actual real time than FlightRadar24.

Topic: RE: Recommendation For Tracking Flight Apps?
Username: PHX787
Posted 2012-11-05 20:28:46 and read 929 times.

Flightaware is ok, but it's not always up to date. FR24 works fine for me, when I have the wi-fi working and when I am in a good location. FR24 works in Tokyo so much better than in Phoenix.

Topic: RE: Recommendation For Tracking Flight Apps?
Username: ogshelly
Posted 2012-11-05 20:28:58 and read 929 times.

Quoting audidudi (Reply 1):

Thanks Audidudi! I'll try that.

Topic: RE: Recommendation For Tracking Flight Apps?
Username: 3MilesToWRO
Posted 2012-11-06 12:42:55 and read 928 times.

What's wrong with Flightradar? I have it on Android and it's quite OK as far as I can see.

Topic: RE: Recommendation For Tracking Flight Apps?
Username: fn1001
Posted 2012-11-06 13:12:52 and read 928 times.

I have flightradar24 pro on my iPad3 and it works good when I am in western Europe and have a strong WiFi.

In Moldova and Rumania it depends on the connection to the internet too and the coverage of the sources.

On my phone (Android 2.3.3) I have the free version and it often used to crash, so I uninstalled it.

Topic: RE: Recommendation For Tracking Flight Apps?
Username: goosebayguy
Posted 2012-11-06 13:14:47 and read 928 times.

Plane Finder works well for me too.

Topic: RE: Recommendation For Tracking Flight Apps?
Username: capri
Posted 2012-11-06 14:24:00 and read 928 times.

It all depends on people transmitting the data near the airport and how good their equipments are, and antennas high and clear from obstacle, it's all done by volunteers who enjoy this hobby, in less than decade, us enthusiasts we can listen to endless atc worldwide and track flights, so don't take it for granted, we came a long way

Topic: RE: Recommendation For Tracking Flight Apps?
Username: flyingbird
Posted 2012-11-06 14:33:23 and read 930 times.

Quoting audidudi (Reply 1):
Try Planefinder. I use both on my IPhone and Planefinder seems to be closer to actual real time than FlightRadar24.

FR24 is 100% real time, so I don't see how anything can be "closer to actual real time", than "real time"

Topic: RE: Recommendation For Tracking Flight Apps?
Username: vhqpa
Posted 2012-11-06 14:35:29 and read 928 times.

I hear snowglobes work well








Sorry someone had to do it

Topic: RE: Recommendation For Tracking Flight Apps?
Username: audidudi
Posted 2012-11-06 15:44:46 and read 931 times.

Quoting flyingbird (Reply 8):

Well when I see an aircraft flying over my house here in No. California, the Planefinder App will show the aircraft as it is actually flying in the sky. The FlightRadar24 App is delayed about 1-2 mins, so even though both are supposed to be "real time", Planefinder is the more accurate of the two in showing the aircraft's actual position relative to where it is in the sky!

Topic: RE: Recommendation For Tracking Flight Apps?
Username: flyingbird
Posted 2012-11-06 15:58:02 and read 928 times.

Quoting audidudi (Reply 10):
Well when I see an aircraft flying over my house here in No. California, the Planefinder App will show the aircraft as it is actually flying in the sky. The FlightRadar24 App is delayed about 1-2 mins, so even though both are supposed to be "real time", Planefinder is the more accurate of the two in showing the aircraft's actual position relative to where it is in the sky!

ADS-B data on FR24 is 100% real time. I have checked at least 100 times last 3 years. FAA data on FR24 is delayed by 5 minutes and this delay is made by FAA, so I guess there is not much FR24 can do about it.

ADS-B data on Planefinder is about 10-30 seconds delayed, and planefinder are making some kind of strange position estimations that are far from correct. They continue to plot aircraft in a straight line for about 30 minutes after lost ADS-B coverage. That gives a feeling of Planefinder having better coverage, but it's fake. You can see that on several locations, for example southern Spain, where aircraft bound to Malaga continue their flights for 30 minutes so they end up in Africa. FAA data on Planefinder is delayed 5 minutes as well, but Planefinder is moving aircraft forward 2-3 minutes, so it gives a feeling of the FAA data being almost real time, but once again it's fake. The estimated aircraft positions are not correct, so if you observe FAA data landings on a US airport, the aircraft often jumps around in circles or just continues past the airport, because Planefinder is correcting incorrect position estimations.

So first impression is that Planefinder have more and faster data, but much is just estimations that are not correct. That is why I recommend FR24 that only shows real transponder data, and not incorrect estimations.

Topic: RE: Recommendation For Tracking Flight Apps?
Username: flyingbird
Posted 2012-11-06 16:18:55 and read 928 times.

This is an example of the result moving the an aircraft forward (from the 5 minute delayed FAA data) about 3 minutes forward in a straight line, to estimate the current position. The result is that Planefinder draws the aircraft past the airport where it was supposed to land (and still it's on FL78 with 272 kts).

http://i45.tinypic.com/34s57ut.png


And here is a screenshot from FR24 at the same moment. The data is 5 minutes delayed but at least it's correct.

http://i49.tinypic.com/35jmeck.png


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