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Topic: Fast Jet Launches Soon - Your Predictions?
Username: bluesky73
Posted 2012-11-05 05:59:09 and read 1270 times.

Hi all,

Fast Jet the new Loco on Africa launches this month with 3 recently delivered 319s and more bases and aircraft to come.

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...ils-livery-ahead-of-launch-378527/

With Stelios (original Mr Easyjet) involved too do you think this will be successful in Africa and does it have market that Europe has?

Your thoughts and knowledge as always appreciated.

Topic: RE: Fast Jet Launches Soon - Your Predictions?
Username: Pe@rson
Posted 2012-11-05 06:13:57 and read 1271 times.

Quoting bluesky73 (Thread starter):
does it have market that Europe has?

Africa is a key growth area in the future, although a number of countries (including Tanzania and Kenya which Fastjet will first serve) have pretty fast-growing GDPs, but for now Africa, collectively, is a fair way down the product life cycle (which can effectively be applied to regions too). However, Africa also has many challenges - regulatory, taxation, costs, infrastructure, technological - that Fastjet will need to be overcome, although it has already stated (e.g. in this month's ATW) that it will adapt as appropriate (such as distributing indirectly via travel agencies and using GDS') to better target local people and make it easier for them to purchase. With the possibility of being Africa's only (for now) pan-continental (initially by using Fly540's AOCs) lower-fare and lower-cost airline Fastjet is a highly interesting development - and I look forward to seeing what materialises.

[Edited 2012-11-05 07:03:56]

Topic: RE: Fast Jet Launches Soon - Your Predictions?
Username: spiritair97
Posted 2012-11-05 10:08:26 and read 1271 times.

I like the livery. It almost reminds me of a Yellow version of the dirty-looking grey NK livery with a bird on the tail.

As for its success, it seems that its creators know what they are doing and have some experience, so I think they probably will do well.

Topic: RE: Fast Jet Launches Soon - Your Predictions?
Username: by738
Posted 2012-11-05 11:29:51 and read 1271 times.

like the tail, but think the easyjet style billboard titles are a bit out of place

Topic: RE: Fast Jet Launches Soon - Your Predictions?
Username: eastafspot
Posted 2012-11-06 02:58:34 and read 1268 times.

That's a really good new indeed

For the sake of competition and passenger benefit, i truly hope they will be successful. Dar es Salaam seems a good base since ATCL struggles in its expansion plans.

Quoting bluesky73 (Thread starter):
this will be successful in Africa and does it have market that Europe has?

Probably, habit tends to differ in term of travelling and holidays, local business trips and foreign/expatriate tourists mainly.

Quote:
One-way tickets with FastJet will start at $20, excluding taxes

In domestic if one can expect between 20 and $30 taxes that sounds fair.


Now let's see what will happen since 2-3 weeks ago Jambo Jet, the KQ's subsidiary got the traffic rights for 22 routes across Kenya and Eastern Africa.

Topic: RE: Fast Jet Launches Soon - Your Predictions?
Username: bluesky73
Posted 2012-11-06 05:22:40 and read 1268 times.

I certainly think Fastjet will be interesting to watch and hopefully grow and see if they reach the 40 aircraft target by 2016.

Also Im loving the livery, Bright and fresh and I also like the parrot logo. I agree main titles not quite right, maybe bolder, moved slightly nearer to front of fuselage and a lighter shade of orange, that's my 2 cents anyway.

Does anyone know where the 319s are coming from, new from airbus or leased?

Good luck to Fastjet!

Topic: RE: Fast Jet Launches Soon - Your Predictions?
Username: spiritair97
Posted 2012-11-06 05:28:07 and read 1268 times.

Quoting bluesky73 (Reply 5):

Thought they were getting older a319s from EasyJet as they integrated newer ones into the fleet.

Topic: RE: Fast Jet Launches Soon - Your Predictions?
Username: SepulTALLICA
Posted 2012-11-06 10:42:33 and read 1267 times.

I don't have a good feeling about FastJet - not that its a bad company, just it doesn't fit the African business motif.

Their entire management are a bunch of suits from London accustomed to the European way of doing things, with little experience of the African business environment (especially with regards to dealing with African governments, hence their use of Fly540 as a vehicle to get their foot in the door) and above all, African culture.

While they have hired a couple of so called experts on the African market, there seems to be no indigenous (read Black) management involved.

Yes, race plays a huge role in Africa, more so now than ever. With Europe's economy going nowhere fast, and China offering low interest loans sans political strings attached, African governments are growing more and more touchy about whom they allow to invest in their countries.

In fact that is why LCCs like Fly540 and carriers like Tanzania's Precision Air have been able to make such strong inroads into the continent - they are (were) indigenous companies run by Africans for Africans ultimately benefiting Africans.

Speaking as a white Zimbabwean, i have seen how some European companies, and Europeans, Americans, Australians etc, try dealing with Africa, and fall flat on their faces. They bring in all sorts of "corporate norms" and high expectations and try push governments around - it doesn't work like that in Africa. Above all, they neglect the locals when it comes to managerial positions which then leads to resentment and apathy.

Above all, if the local populace get the perception that all the airline is, is a bunch of Murungus trying to exploit the black populace, e.g trying to charge an old Sekuru huge $$$ for taking his taking his hand luggage on board like O'Leary and his Ryanair do, well, its going to be a pretty short, expensive investment for Sir Stelios Haji-Ioannou and the other fine folks at FastJet PLC.

But I'm sure they've though of all that and have covered all their bases and I for one, certainly hope they can realize the first Pan African LCC.

Topic: RE: Fast Jet Launches Soon - Your Predictions?
Username: eastafspot
Posted 2012-11-14 12:10:04 and read 1264 times.

According to Airlineroute.net:

Operations will start the 29th of november on the Dar es Salaam – Kilimanjaro and Dar es Salaam – Mwanza routes:

Quote:

Dar es Salaam – Kilimanjaro
FN151 DAR1030 – 1150JRO 319 D
FN153 DAR1930 – 2050JRO 319 D

FN152 JRO1235 – 1355DAR 319 D
FN154 JRO2135 – 2255DAR 319 D

Dar es Salaam – Mwanza
FN161 DAR0600 – 0730MWZ 319 D
FN163 DAR1500 – 1630MWZ 319 D

FN162 MWZ0815 – 0945DAR 319 D
FN164 MWZ1715 – 1845DAR 319 D

The airline also plans to offer flights to Mombasa, Entebbe, Nairobi and Zanzibar

Topic: RE: Fast Jet Launches Soon - Your Predictions?
Username: Pe@rson
Posted 2012-11-14 12:17:53 and read 1264 times.

Quoting eastafspot (Reply 8):
Operations will start the 29th of november on the Dar es Salaam – Kilimanjaro and Dar es Salaam – Mwanza routes:

Nice!  
Quoting eastafspot (Reply 8):
The airline also plans to offer flights to Mombasa, Entebbe, Nairobi and Zanzibar

Various reports I've read said that it'll start with DAR-NBO 3x daily. Is it not doing this now?

Topic: RE: Fast Jet Launches Soon - Your Predictions?
Username: Birdwatching
Posted 2012-11-14 13:08:23 and read 1264 times.

What I remember from flying in Africa is that passengers tend to bring loads and loads of bags and suitcases. I've seen many passengers who will take 2 pieces on board and try to check in 5 more. How is a European style LCC going to cope with this? You can't just charge them for all that luggage, people would get angry real fast.

Soren   


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