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Topic: Pax Dies When Boarding Ryanair Flight
Username: downtown273
Posted 2012-11-17 15:03:45 and read 2324 times.

It sounds like a 25-year-old Spanish guy died today in Roma-Ciampino airport while trying to board a Ryanair flight.

He bypassed the gate check and run to the aircraft parked on the tarmac. Apparently he was holding a boarding pass for another flight so the crew didn't let him on the plane.

He held on to the handrails of the Boeing 737-800 stairs and the crew called Airport Police. The Police found him to be "very violent" so they called the ambulance service, who gave him a sedative. He lost consciousness and died. Some sources say it could have been a heart attack.

Link in Spanish only: http://www.euronoticias.es/un-espano...-avion-que-estaba-perdiendo/12351/

(Btw the picture on the news article is not Ciampino, it's Bilbao airport in Spain - not sure why they used this photo)

Topic: RE: Pax Dies When Boarding Ryanair Flight
Username: AA737-823
Posted 2012-11-17 15:39:08 and read 2325 times.

My goodness... perhaps they over-sedated him?
Sounds like he was off his rockers from the get-go, which could persuade the authorities to overdo a sedative...

Topic: RE: Pax Dies When Boarding Ryanair Flight
Username: AR385
Posted 2012-11-17 16:10:59 and read 2327 times.

A sedative given to someone so out of his mind, as the news are reporting he was, can have pretty unpredicctable effects. Not saying he died because of it, but I´m not sure it was a wise choice.

Topic: RE: Pax Dies When Boarding Ryanair Flight
Username: aviateur
Posted 2012-11-17 18:31:57 and read 2325 times.

Quoting downtown273 (Thread starter):
(Btw the picture on the news article is not Ciampino, it's Bilbao airport in Spain - not sure why they used this photo)

Because the news media ALWAYS do things like that. Accuracy is so important to the press.... except when it comes to aviation.

Topic: RE: Pax Dies When Boarding Ryanair Flight
Username: Richcandy
Posted 2012-11-17 23:35:13 and read 2324 times.

Very sad that he died.

Topic: RE: Pax Dies When Boarding Ryanair Flight
Username: photoshooter
Posted 2012-11-18 03:51:29 and read 2324 times.

Could have been an anaphylactic reaction to the sedative. That can lead to a heart failure. Very sad to hear that such a young man died because of this.

When it comes to boarding procedure of Ryanair: I've noticed that many people still not understand how they organize their boardings. Passengers do not see the difference in the 'priority boarding' lane and the normal boarding lane.
Sometimes when they announce boardings, they talk as fast as lightning which causes stress for passengers as well.

Quoting AR385 (Reply 2):
A sedative given to someone so out of his mind, as the news are reporting he was, can have pretty unpredictable effects. Not saying he died because of it, but I´m not sure it was a wise choice.

Exactly, I think there are dozens of other non medical ways that could have calmed him down.

Topic: RE: Pax Dies When Boarding Ryanair Flight
Username: kl911
Posted 2012-11-18 04:02:25 and read 2324 times.

So young.. could it have been drugs / alcohol in combination with the sedatives?

Topic: RE: Pax Dies When Boarding Ryanair Flight
Username: AA737-823
Posted 2012-11-18 04:20:19 and read 2323 times.

Quoting photoshooter (Reply 7):
Could have been an anaphylactic reaction to the sedative. That can lead to a heart failure. Very sad to hear that such a young man died because of this.

Well, and it sounds like he was already emotionally---perhaps chemically---unstable to start with, so further upset might have just been more than his system could tolerate.

Quoting kl911 (Reply 8):
So young.. could it have been drugs / alcohol in combination with the sedatives?

That's always a possibility, given his erratic behavior at the time, it would seem. Which would make this even more sad...

Topic: RE: Pax Dies When Boarding Ryanair Flight
Username: DocLightning
Posted 2012-11-18 05:22:25 and read 2325 times.

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 1):
My goodness... perhaps they over-sedated him?
Sounds like he was off his rockers from the get-go, which could persuade the authorities to overdo a sedative...

That behavior is consistent with acute stimulant intoxication (cocaine, amphetamines). If he was suffering from stimulant toxicity because of a cocaine overdose (cocaine is pretty popular in Spain), a heart attack is certainly a reasonable cause of death.

Dopaminergic/noradrenergic stimulants like cocaine and the amphetamines cause the heart to increase its output by increasing the force and strength of contraction while increasing the rate. At the same time, these stimulants cause constriction of blood vessels, including those coronary vessels supplying the heart. The heart muscle finds itself with increased metabolic demand and decreased nutrient and oxygen supply. The result can be ischemia (lack of oxygen) to the heart muscle and a myocardial infarction (heart attack).

Also, the increase in blood pressure can cause an underlying cerebral aneurism to rupture or it can cause ischemic damage to the brain much as it does to the heart.

As to whether the sedatives could have played a role, it depends on what sedative, how much, and how it was given. Generally, most sedatives used in situations like that wouldn't contribute to the causes of death I've mentioned. Benzodiazepines like lorazepam and diazepam ("ATIVAN" and "VALIUM," respectively) can suppress the breathing drive, but that requires quite a snootful.

Obviously, I have access to the same factual information on this case as anyone else here, so I'm just making an educated guess.

Topic: RE: Pax Dies When Boarding Ryanair Flight
Username: 9MMPQ
Posted 2012-11-18 06:10:33 and read 2324 times.

A Dutch newspaper now reports medication has been found in his luggage, no further details given. Might have been some very unfortunate combination.

The link with article, in Dutch though.

http://www.telegraaf.nl/buitenland/2...Toerist_sterft_op_vliegveld__.html

Topic: RE: Pax Dies When Boarding Ryanair Flight
Username: DAL763ER
Posted 2012-11-18 10:04:50 and read 2323 times.

I'm surprised we don't hear about Ryanair pax dying more often...  

Topic: RE: Pax Dies When Boarding Ryanair Flight
Username: aerdingus
Posted 2012-11-18 10:17:49 and read 2328 times.

Quoting DAL763ER (Reply 10):

yeah, cause that would be a really great thing to happen.   

Topic: RE: Pax Dies When Boarding Ryanair Flight
Username: krisyyz
Posted 2012-11-18 11:21:43 and read 2322 times.

This has nothing to do with FR's business approach (I'm not an FR fan). My sister encountered this issue first hand, while an FA on a flight to NRT, a Norwegian sailor who was extremely drunk got very violent. An MD onboard administered a sedative and the sailor went into cardiac arrest, I believe the doctor was charged on some ground of medical malpractice.

RIP to the young passenger, my condolences to his family.

KrisYYZ

Topic: RE: Pax Dies When Boarding Ryanair Flight
Username: RussianJet
Posted 2012-11-18 13:58:43 and read 2324 times.

Quoting DAL763ER (Reply 10):
I'm surprised we don't hear about Ryanair pax dying more often...

Very clever, and nice way to joke about someone's death.   

In other news, people die while walking down the street, flying on other carriers. or indeed in their own homes. Cue the stupid comments......oh wait, there wouldn't be any in those circumstances.


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