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Topic: Israeli Tension And TLV .
Username: etops1
Posted 2012-11-18 05:14:18 and read 2349 times.

With the Tension mounting in Israel and rocket fire being aimed at TLV . Should DL , UA , and US suspend flts there for the time being until things calm down ? I am working over to TLV tomorrow the 19 on US . Contemplating getting off my trip but don't know yet .

Topic: RE: Israeli Tension And TLV .
Username: kaitak
Posted 2012-11-18 06:07:21 and read 2356 times.

I haven't heard of rockets actually being fired at TLV Airport itself, but obviously that can't be ruled out.

I think airlines will be in touch with their insurers and of course, the State Department and Homeland Security Dept, monitoring the situation on a very regular basis. If they had to divert inbound flights, I'm sure they would.

I see that KL has added a LCA stopover on its TLV flights; I guess this is to allow the flight to stop off at LCA if things get back and deplane pax there?

Topic: RE: Israeli Tension And TLV .
Username: UM78
Posted 2012-11-18 06:50:43 and read 2353 times.

AF seems to be of the same advice:

Paris CDG – Larnaca – Tel Aviv 17NOV12 Outbound via Larnaca
AF2220 CDG2345 – 0500+1LCA0600+1 – 0655+1TLV 320

Topic: RE: Israeli Tension And TLV .
Username: plateman
Posted 2012-11-18 06:58:45 and read 2353 times.

US issued a travel waiver for TLV "Philadelphia's largest airline said passengers ticketed for travel to Tel Aviv Nov. 16-19 can change their flight to travel instead Nov. 17-26 without a $150 per ticket change fee. The penalty will be waived"

I don't see how that little time will do anything, though.

Topic: RE: Israeli Tension And TLV .
Username: avi
Posted 2012-11-18 06:59:39 and read 2353 times.

AF and KLM replace crew at LCA. Their crews don't sleep at the moment in Israel.

Beside that all traffic into and out of TLV is "pushed" north.

Topic: RE: Israeli Tension And TLV .
Username: keuleatr72
Posted 2012-11-18 07:11:55 and read 2353 times.

The Network Operations Portal of Eurocontrol states:

Quote:

LLBG will be closed for arrivals from18/11/2012 untill 23/11 /2012 during the following hours:


daily btw

0350-0600UTC
0700-0800UTC
0900-1000UTC
1100-1200UTC
1300-1400UTC
1500-1600UTC
1700-1800UTC
1900-2000UTC
2100-2200UTC
2300-2359UTC

Notam A1414/12 Refers

https://www.public.cfmu.eurocontrol.int/PUBPORTAL/gateway/spec/index.html

Topic: RE: Israeli Tension And TLV .
Username: klwright69
Posted 2012-11-18 07:22:35 and read 2357 times.

UA also has a notice regarding the waiving of change fees at united.com

Topic: RE: Israeli Tension And TLV .
Username: B767300ER
Posted 2012-11-18 09:19:15 and read 2353 times.

Flew into TLV on 15th on DL268 and returned on DL 269 on 18th encountered no problems at airport or our
layover hotel. Both flights were over 90% full.

Topic: RE: Israeli Tension And TLV .
Username: gilesdavies
Posted 2012-11-18 14:36:53 and read 2353 times.

I would imagine airlines are not going to stop flying to Israel unless the airlines of origins country advises against travel...

I notice UK airlines are still flying and they have nothing mentioned at all on their websites about alternations or relaxed travel policies on the routes.

It maybe completely unrelated, but notice on the arrivals page of easyJet their TLV-LTN flight this evening is running 47 minutes behind schedule stating "Delay due to air traffic control restrictions". Not sure is this is related to the rocket attacked and routes they are operating into and out of TLV.

easyJet will not be effected with having to base crew in TLV overnight as the same crews operate both the inbound and outbound routes from their respected bases to TLV.

The UK's Foreign and Commonwealth office is giving the below advice of travel to Israel:

This advice has been reviewed and reissued with amendments to the Travel Summary (military operations in and around Gaza and travel to the West Bank) and to Safety and Security – Terrorism (threat level raised to “high”). The overall level of the advice has changed. We now advise against all but essential travel to areas within 40km of Israel's border with Gaza; we continue to advise against all travel to Gaza (including the waters off Gaza) and to the Sheba’a Farms and Ghajjar along the border with Lebanon.

http://www.fco.gov.uk/en/travel-and-...-east-north-africa/israel-occupied

I'd imagine European and western countries will liaise with each other and provide similar advice, if and when it needs to be changed.

Topic: RE: Israeli Tension And TLV .
Username: avi
Posted 2012-11-18 17:40:37 and read 2353 times.

Quoting gilesdavies (Reply 8):
It maybe completely unrelated, but notice on the arrivals page of easyJet their TLV-LTN flight this evening is running 47 minutes behind schedule stating "Delay due to air traffic control restrictions". Not sure is this is related to the rocket attacked and routes they are operating into and out of TLV.

It is probably related.
As you can see in keuleatr72's post (#5) there are hours now for departure and hours for arrivals since there is a single in and out route and takeoffs and landings are on opposite directions (no traffic at all west to the airport, only east and north).

Topic: RE: Israeli Tension And TLV .
Username: avi
Posted 2012-11-22 08:11:34 and read 2310 times.

TLV resumed normal operations today. All limitations canceled.

Topic: RE: Israeli Tension And TLV .
Username: Luxair747SP
Posted 2012-11-22 12:33:50 and read 2075 times.

Just saw, that the LH flights to TLV now have a stopover in ATH.

Topic: RE: Israeli Tension And TLV .
Username: LXA340
Posted 2012-11-22 12:58:24 and read 2017 times.

Quoting Luxair747SP (Reply 11):

I assume LH will change that again in a few days as the situation has calmed down

Topic: RE: Israeli Tension And TLV .
Username: peterinlisbon
Posted 2012-11-22 15:30:12 and read 1807 times.

I think perhaps with so many rockets waiting to land in Tel Aviv, there must have been quite a long queue - probably this is why Easyjet was delayed.

Topic: RE: Israeli Tension And TLV .
Username: raffik
Posted 2012-11-22 15:57:36 and read 1774 times.

Quoting peterinlisbon (Reply 13):
rockets waiting to land in Tel Aviv

Aircraft?   No rockets waiting for TLV.
Glad the flight disruptions didn't last too long


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