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Topic: EgyptAir 2011 Cockpit Fire Final Report / Pics
Username: flood
Posted 2012-11-29 16:50:11 and read 10483 times.

Egypt's Ministry of Civil Aviation has released their final report on the July 2011 EgyptAir 777 reg SU-GBP cockpit fire in Cairo.



Youtube clip of incident:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYV_K7FAI5g

Archived thread:
EgyptAir Cockpit Fire With 300pax Onboard (by flythere Jul 29 2011 in Civil Aviation)

The aftermath:









More images contained within the report, which on p.66 goes on to state:

The cause of the fire could not be conclusively determined. It is not yet known whether the oxygen system breach occurred first, providing a flammable environment or whether the oxygen system breach occurred as a result of the fire.

Accident could be related to the following probable causes:

1. Electrical fault or short circuit resulted in electrical heating of flexible hoses in the flight crew oxygen system. (Electrical Short Circuits; contact between aircraft wiring and oxygen system components may be possible if multiple wire clamps are missing or fractured or if wires are incorrectly installed).

2. Exposure to Electrical Current

Full report here:
http://www.civilaviation.gov.eg/acci...oeing%20comments%2019-09-2012a.pdf

Topic: RE: EgyptAir 2011 Cockpit Fire Final Report / Pics
Username: SXDFC
Posted 2012-11-29 20:52:19 and read 10057 times.

Those pictures really are interesting, its a wonderful thing that this didn't happen inflight.. I am not sure about anyone else here, but these pictures kinda remind me of what it might have looked like on SR 111 before it went down..

Topic: RE: EgyptAir 2011 Cockpit Fire Final Report / Pics
Username: na
Posted 2012-11-30 02:16:02 and read 9744 times.

Quoting SXDFC (Reply 1):

Those pictures really are interesting, its a wonderful thing that this didn't happen inflight.. I am not sure about anyone else here, but these pictures kinda remind me of what it might have looked like on SR 111 before it went down..

Yes, thank god this happened before takeoff. The cockpit area looks nasty. The 777 has been a very lucky type so far as all serious incidents happened on the ground or close to it (London). It would be interesting to know if this plane has already been scrapped or if the wreck is still standing around at Cairo.

Topic: RE: EgyptAir 2011 Cockpit Fire Final Report / Pics
Username: FI642
Posted 2012-11-30 08:36:35 and read 9211 times.

Wow! I'm always amazed when I see that kind of fire damage. I saw pictures of an MD-11 that had extensive fire
damage in a paint shop. Agreed, good it happened on the ground. It could have been another Peggy's Cove incident.

Topic: RE: EgyptAir 2011 Cockpit Fire Final Report / Pics
Username: timpdx
Posted 2012-11-30 08:52:13 and read 9133 times.

Did this airframe get written off? I googled it and can't seem to find an answer.

Topic: RE: EgyptAir 2011 Cockpit Fire Final Report / Pics
Username: SandroZRH
Posted 2012-11-30 09:11:37 and read 9061 times.

Quoting na (Reply 2):
Quoting timpdx (Reply 4):

Yes it has. Last time i flew to CAI it was sitting on barrels, stripped out and without engines and landing gear next to the center runway.

Topic: RE: EgyptAir 2011 Cockpit Fire Final Report / Pics
Username: na
Posted 2012-11-30 09:23:44 and read 9016 times.

Quoting timpdx (Reply 4):

Did this airframe get written off? I googled it and can't seem to find an answer.

You didnt dig very deep it seems. This just took me 30 seconds:
http://aviation-safety.net/database/...107%&cat=%1&sorteer=datekey&page=1

Its only the second 777 writeoff (and the fourth or fifth 777 scrapped).

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 5):
Yes it has. Last time i flew to CAI it was sitting on barrels, stripped out and without engines and landing gear next to the center runway.

Thanks for reporting.

Topic: RE: EgyptAir 2011 Cockpit Fire Final Report / Pics
Username: Western727
Posted 2012-11-30 10:19:12 and read 8326 times.

Goose bumps. Glad it happened when it happened and not 1 hour later. The T7 was packed!

Topic: RE: EgyptAir 2011 Cockpit Fire Final Report / Pics
Username: n471wn
Posted 2012-11-30 10:21:00 and read 8294 times.

Quoting na (Reply 6):
Its only the second 777 writeoff (and the fourth or fifth 777 scrapped).

Four 777's are gone---two in accidents and two parted out

Topic: RE: EgyptAir 2011 Cockpit Fire Final Report / Pics
Username: LARSHJORT
Posted 2012-11-30 11:43:17 and read 7091 times.

It's amazing what a little oxygen can do.

Quoting na (Reply 2):

Yes, thank god this happened before takeoff. The cockpit area looks nasty. The 777 has been a very lucky type so far as all serious incidents happened on the ground or close to it (London).

Most crashes happens close to the ground   

/Lars

Topic: RE: EgyptAir 2011 Cockpit Fire Final Report / Pics
Username: timpdx
Posted 2012-11-30 12:43:23 and read 6248 times.

I googled egypt air fire writeoff and google returned pages about the fire and lots of discussion here, but no definitive answer on the final fate of the 772. Figured with the flight deck ruined by fire and foam that it was simply uneconomic to try to fix it.

Topic: RE: EgyptAir 2011 Cockpit Fire Final Report / Pics
Username: Aquila3
Posted 2012-11-30 12:57:10 and read 6082 times.

Pardon my terminology, I am not an expert.
But, has the cause of the incident be attributed to a weakness of the aircraft or to any wrong human action (i.e. maintenance?)
Has any of the regulators or the safety agencies yet emanated bulletins, recommendations, limitations?
I do not mean that all the 777 should be GROUNDED by today (although the pictures look really scary), but a little reinforcement of the oxygen piping, better protection/insulation of the cables/connectors would not help?
Or are we just waiting the next one, hoping on the good star of the 777?

Edit:
Now I can access the report (that I could not do before). Just I could not infer that from the posts, I am sorry.

I see that Boeing has emanated a Service Bulletin in order to fix the problem on a relevant number of early aircrafts.
BTW more or less what I was thinking, simple and straightforward.
Looks like that closes the case.

[Edited 2012-11-30 13:18:59]

Topic: RE: EgyptAir 2011 Cockpit Fire Final Report / Pics
Username: na
Posted 2012-11-30 13:21:46 and read 5759 times.

Quoting n471wn (Reply 8):
Four 777's are gone---two in accidents and two parted out

Line-nos. 13, 19, 71 and 342.


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