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Topic: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: na
Posted 2012-11-28 08:41:31 and read 10989 times.

http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/regdb.main?LC=nav4&page=2

D-ABXL is being ferried to the USA for scrapping today after 26 years which probably marks a record fpr LH in terms of service years if we exclude the Tante Ju.

Topic: RE: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: kl911
Posted 2012-11-28 14:09:48 and read 10081 times.

Quoting na (Thread starter):
D-ABXL is being ferried to the USA for scrapping today after 26 years which probably marks a record fpr LH in terms of service years if we exclude the Tante Ju.

I am wondering if I have flown this bird. I flew a LH 733 23th Nov BUD-FRA early morning, and back same day the latest flight. Where can I check which one I flew?

Topic: RE: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: Carmelo
Posted 2012-11-28 14:17:53 and read 10046 times.

Quoting kl911 (Reply 3):
I am wondering if I have flown this bird. I flew a LH 733 23th Nov BUD-FRA early morning, and back same day the latest flight. Where can I check which one I flew?

According to libhomeradar.org that frame had its last flight on 5th November on the Malpensa route.

Topic: RE: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: chrisMUC
Posted 2012-11-28 22:00:28 and read 8657 times.

@kl911

you've been on D-ABXP in the morning and on D-ABED in the evening.

Topic: RE: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: autothrust
Posted 2012-11-28 23:33:33 and read 8020 times.

Finally it was time to scrap this old uncomfy plane from LH Fleet.
Please LH retire all old 737.

Topic: RE: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: Wilco737
Posted 2012-11-28 23:53:55 and read 7862 times.

Quoting na (Thread starter):
D-ABXL is being ferried to the USA for scrapping today after 26 years which probably marks a record fpr LH in terms of service years if we exclude the Tante Ju.

That is indeed an old airplane. But their reliability was impressive for the whole 26 years!

Thank you for 30 flights I had with you.

Oh and did you all know that D-ABXL was the biggest B737-300? [hint: XL] 

wilco737
  

Topic: RE: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: photoshooter
Posted 2012-11-29 00:31:35 and read 7518 times.

Sad to hear it's leaving the fleet 'already'. I didn't have the honour to log her, although I logged her sister, D-ABXU.

Quoting autothrust (Reply 4):
Finally it was time to scrap this old uncomfy plane from LH Fleet.
Please LH retire all old 737.

Uncomfy? Never had any problems with any LH 737s. Unless you mean those thin new Recaro seats, then I agree.

Quoting Wilco737 (Reply 5):
Oh and did you all know that D-ABXL was the biggest B737-300? [hint: XL]

Omg, haha! It's too early to make such jokes, Wilco...

Topic: RE: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: aerorobnz
Posted 2012-11-29 00:45:34 and read 7393 times.

I photographed her on my June trip to Europe. I knew it would be the last time I saw many of the 733/735 fleet so I snapped every one I could get.

Topic: RE: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: SASDC8
Posted 2012-11-29 00:50:51 and read 7340 times.

Quoting Wilco737 (Reply 5):
Oh and did you all know that D-ABXL was the biggest B737-300? [hint: XL]

Mr. Funnyman 

Thanks for that one! Made my day so far  

Cheers
SASDC8

Topic: RE: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: EPA001
Posted 2012-11-29 00:57:44 and read 7290 times.

Quoting Wilco737 (Reply 5):
Oh and did you all know that D-ABXL was the biggest B737-300? [hint: XL] 

Nice.  

So how many older B737's does LH still have? Last Saturday I flew on a B737-500 which was also looking and feeling old. And it was park as far out as it could be at FRA. Maybe they do not want to show these oldies anymore to the general public? My flight on the oldie was however perfect.  .

Topic: RE: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: downtown273
Posted 2012-11-29 01:11:39 and read 7159 times.

Quoting autothrust (Reply 4):
Finally it was time to scrap this old uncomfy plane from LH Fleet.
Please LH retire all old 737.

Not sure why you say that. I've been on 40-50 LH 737 flights, and never found them uncomfortable. Their interior is not the best (yes, they are old) but other than that, they are fine for me.

Topic: RE: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: photoshooter
Posted 2012-11-29 01:11:49 and read 7159 times.

Quoting EPA001 (Reply 9):
So how many older B737's does LH still have?

19x 733s, 1x 733 stored (D-ABXL)
and 22x 735s. Oldest at the moment is 24.9 years old, D-ABXP.

Cheers

Topic: RE: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: EPA001
Posted 2012-11-29 01:17:40 and read 7109 times.

Quoting photoshooter (Reply 11):
19x 733s, 1x 733 stored (D-ABXL)
and 22x 735s. Oldest at the moment is 24.9 years old, D-ABXP.

Thanks for your quick and detailed reply.  

Topic: RE: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: PanHAM
Posted 2012-11-29 01:24:49 and read 7029 times.

Quoting EPA001 (Reply 9):
And it was park as far out as it could be at FRA.

must have been the "Schweinebucht" (bay of pigs)

Topic: RE: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: EPA001
Posted 2012-11-29 01:53:26 and read 6835 times.

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 13):
must have been the "Schweinebucht" (bay of pigs)

If that is the parking area closest to the A5 Autobahn then I guess you are right.

Topic: RE: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: CrimsonNL
Posted 2012-11-29 02:07:55 and read 6721 times.

What a shame to see "Neuss" go! I've dispatched that plane many many times at AMS, never got the pleasure to fly on it though. From the interior you wouldn't be able to tell she was this old, and even the exterior and cargo bays looked very good for an airplane this age!

Martijn

Topic: RE: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: Aquila3
Posted 2012-11-29 02:18:16 and read 6629 times.

Quoting autothrust (Reply 4):
Finally it was time to scrap this old uncomfy plane from LH Fleet.
Please LH retire all old 737.

Definitely substandard in the EU, at least.
Great plane, but its time has gone. Also on the environmental side (pollution/noise) I am sure that there are better birds around including its newest derivative , the 737MAX.
And you know, here we care about that

Topic: RE: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: PanHAM
Posted 2012-11-29 02:47:10 and read 6384 times.

Quoting EPA001 (Reply 14):
If that is the parking area closest to the A5 Autobahn then I guess you are right.

that#s the one

Quoting Aquila3 (Reply 16):
Definitely substandard in the EU, at least.

mmmhh, not worse than MD80s.

Ecology must be paid for as well and why waste an aircraft that helps paying for the next generation aircraft.

LH has about 30 A320NEO on order and there will be moe to come, for sure.

Topic: RE: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: tommy525
Posted 2012-11-29 09:36:25 and read 3576 times.

I am kind of happy that the first two planes I flew are not scrapped but instead are still stored somewhere.

2607 from Far Eastern Air Transport is listed as stored in the Philippines (in what condition one can only imagine) and 1874 from China Airlines is listed as stored in Peru. Both planes are now over 40 years old and are the 737-200 model.

My first BAE 146 is sadly scrapped after only just a bit more then ten years of service. Seems those Bae146 dont serve anywhere as long as 737s.

Topic: RE: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: n471wn
Posted 2012-11-29 09:38:51 and read 3567 times.

Quoting tommy525 (Reply 18):
My first BAE 146 is sadly scrapped after only just a bit more then ten years of service. Seems those Bae146 dont serve anywhere as long as 737s.

The early build ones that went to PSA and then on to Europe had long lives----some still flying

Topic: RE: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: n729pa
Posted 2012-11-29 09:40:31 and read 3561 times.

How long do the LH 733's have?

I travelled on a LHR-HAM flight recently with the prospect of having a LH 733 and on the day it was a 735 instead so I was slightly disappointed.


Ps..I remember them when they were new, looking out for the new deliveries. Of course in those days we still had the LH 727s and 732s ....happy days! I like the A320 family, but enjoyed the variety we used to get in those days.

[Edited 2012-11-29 09:42:33]

[Edited 2012-11-29 09:43:03]

Topic: RE: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: KL911
Posted 2012-11-29 09:54:21 and read 3529 times.

Quoting chrisMUC (Reply 3):
@kl911

you've been on D-ABXP in the morning and on D-ABED in the evening.

Thanks! At least I have been on an almost 25 years old plane   D-ABXP

Topic: RE: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: readytotaxi
Posted 2012-11-29 10:22:08 and read 3486 times.

Does it say anywhere how many cycles this aircraft did?

Topic: RE: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: LH422
Posted 2012-11-29 11:12:46 and read 3403 times.

Quoting kl911 (Reply 1):
Where can I check which one I flew?

That would be this site:
http://www.flightradar24.com/data/

Quoting autothrust (Reply 4):
Finally it was time to scrap this old uncomfy plane from LH Fleet.

Yeah, the middle jump seat wasn't all that comfortable. But fun nonetheless!  

Topic: RE: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: CO764
Posted 2012-11-29 11:43:35 and read 3332 times.

Nearly three weeks ago, I had the honor to fly on D-ABEW, the youngest 737 (-300 and -500) in the LH fleet (not counting the Privatair 738), nearly 18 years old. Is is it me or is the 737 Classic slightly lower than the NG variants?

Topic: RE: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: Viscount724
Posted 2012-11-29 11:50:00 and read 3444 times.

Quoting CO764 (Reply 24):
Is is it me or is the 737 Classic slightly lower than the NG variants?

Yes, if memory correct the main landing gear on the NG was lengthened a few inches to increase ground clearance from the engines and reduce the risk of tail strike on rotation with the longer -800/-900 models..

Topic: RE: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: CrimsonNL
Posted 2012-11-30 15:43:19 and read 3009 times.

DABXL retired after 26 years, 51029 cycles and 58968 hours and 47 minutes of flight time. Quite impressive!

Topic: RE: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: na
Posted 2012-11-30 16:01:30 and read 3027 times.

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 26):
DABXL retired after 26 years, 51029 cycles and 58968 hours and 47 minutes of flight time. Quite impressive!

Indeed. Thanks for the info.
Interesting also to compare the figures with LHs early-built 744s at the other end of the fleet which are being retired. The 744s at average have twice as many flight hours, but just 40% of the cycles.

Topic: RE: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: jensobreuer
Posted 2012-12-01 08:44:12 and read 2764 times.

It would be interesting to know how many cycles and hours LH's oldest A320 have. Some of the oldest may leave the fleet in a few years ...

Topic: RE: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: B777Neuss
Posted 2012-12-01 09:04:07 and read 2710 times.

Sad to see "my" home aircraft gone.
Will be interesting to see which aircraft will get the name. Probably an A320/A321.

Topic: RE: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: DALCE
Posted 2012-12-01 23:14:05 and read 2417 times.

It is a pity to see that D-ABXL has been WFU now! Somehow it was my favorite LH 737 and had the honor twice to travel with this impressive bird.

Topic: RE: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: ymincrement
Posted 2012-12-02 13:09:09 and read 2004 times.

As being a huge operator is it still safe and profitable to use that old 737's and 320's?

Topic: RE: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: mffoda
Posted 2012-12-02 13:22:59 and read 1957 times.

Quoting ymincrement (Reply 31):
As being a huge operator is it still safe and profitable to use that old 737's and 320's?

It could be 126 years old, and still be safe considering LH is maintaining it.  

Topic: RE: LHs Oldest 737 Retired
Username: na
Posted 2012-12-02 13:24:56 and read 1954 times.

Quoting B777Neuss (Reply 29):
Will be interesting to see which aircraft will get the name. Probably an A320/A321.

A330/A346 perhaps. There are several unnamed frames.

Quoting jensobreuer (Reply 28):
It would be interesting to know how many cycles and hours LH's oldest A320 have. Some of the oldest may leave the fleet in a few years ...

Indeed that would be interesting to know. The oldest LH A320s, built in 1989 are surely the record-holders among the type in terms of flight hours, as 1. LH utilizes their aircraft very efficiently and 2. almost all other A320s built in the late 80s aside those oldest LH frames have been scrapped.


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