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Topic: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: liverpoola380
Posted 2012-11-29 03:43:46 and read 15335 times.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/ar...-serve-KFC-chicken-passengers.html

Well this is an interesting move and I cant help but feel it could be tastier than most airline meals served.

As the article states I wonder why it has took so long!

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: vhtje
Posted 2012-11-29 03:49:18 and read 15327 times.

Yuck. I'd rather sushi, thanks.

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: SYDSpotter
Posted 2012-11-29 04:02:50 and read 15226 times.

Serving fast food kinda of cheapens the experience in my view, on a LCC I can understand but on a full service carrier? Does first and business class get the 'upsize' meal ?  

It will also get awfully messy onboard. The cleaners aren't going to enjoy the crumbs and the greasy oil stains everywhere and its not going to be pleasant sitting in an enclosed cabin with that fried chicken/fast food smell lingering in the air.   

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: usdcaguy
Posted 2012-11-29 04:26:42 and read 15078 times.

Why is the thought of KFC at 30,000 feet so depressing? I would much rather have a bucket of seaweed salad than a bucket of wings. Just think of the poor jet-lagged passengers dumping that junk on their tummies. I see a long wait for the lavs... Major fail.

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: usairways85
Posted 2012-11-29 04:35:45 and read 15014 times.

I don't know about Japan but in China KFC has become extremely popular. Didn't UA serve McDonalds for some time?

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: HiJazzey
Posted 2012-11-29 04:43:45 and read 14968 times.

Reheated fried chicken ...ugh

According to the LA times (I don't read the Daily Mail, thank you), they'll serve this as the second meal. I hope that means you at least still have a decent normal meal first.

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: SKAirbus
Posted 2012-11-29 04:50:01 and read 14899 times.

KFC is what you eat when you are incredibly drunk and need food before heading home on a night out, not a "light" meal to keep you going on a 12 hour flight.

What a ridiculous move and how irresponsible of the airline to serve food which such high fat content. Even though America is statistically the world's most overweight country, you don't need to suck up to that stereotype. I hope they have a Japanese meal option!

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: AeroWesty
Posted 2012-11-29 04:57:58 and read 14853 times.

LOL, did anyone read the linked article? KFC is being served for just three months. The restaurant's fare is particularly trendy in Japan during the holidays.

Still, I don't know how crispy it will be after being reheated in a steam oven.

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: HiJazzey
Posted 2012-11-29 05:16:41 and read 14737 times.

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 7):
Still, I don't know how crispy it will be after being reheated in a steam oven.

They'll most likely be dry and rubbery

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: United1
Posted 2012-11-29 05:24:54 and read 14661 times.

Quoting usairways85 (Reply 4):
Didn't UA serve McDonalds for some time?

Not like this though...UA allowed you to request a happy meal for your kids back in the late 90's. KFC for all is a whole different ballgame....

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: sw733
Posted 2012-11-29 05:38:08 and read 14546 times.

Quoting SYDSpotter (Reply 2):
Does first and business class get the 'upsize' meal ?

They will get an extra side of mashed potatoes.

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: frmrCapCadet
Posted 2012-11-29 06:55:38 and read 14213 times.

If KFC is doing a good job they will adapt the recipe to include a reheating, it could work fairly well. Not of course if you don't like KFC. Low carbers/diabetics can discard most of the skin, and still get a decent sized portion.

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: longhauler
Posted 2012-11-29 07:07:03 and read 14144 times.

If one looks at the history of airline meals, it pretty well all started with fried chicken. It stays moist when reheated, and is accepted by most people.

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: brilondon
Posted 2012-11-29 09:25:43 and read 13312 times.

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 7):
LOL, did anyone read the linked article? KFC is being served for just three months. The restaurant's fare is particularly trendy in Japan during the holidays.

Still, I don't know how crispy it will be after being reheated in a steam oven.

It won't be crispy unless they are putting deep fryers on board the aircraft, which I seriously doubt. It could be worse, they could be the catering as usual. Airline food sucks in every way possible. Even in First Class, the food is not the greatest. I rather eat in the restaurants at the airport before I fly. Than I can pick and choose whether I even have a meal on the plane. I get the flights that are like days long, but I would then bring a snack on board the aircraft. Most of the flights I am on only last up to about 8 hours and I can usually last that long ave the with out eating, not sure why you have the need to eat on an aircraft. The food is tasteless and no matter how much they try to dress it up, it still sucks.

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: IrishAyes
Posted 2012-11-29 09:27:20 and read 13290 times.

This is unbelievably sad, IMO. Asian carriers are supposed to be setting the benchmark for global airlines. KFC is hardly "real" food. JAL just lost a ton of respect in my book.

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: SR117
Posted 2012-11-29 09:51:58 and read 12930 times.

This isn't some sort of crazy wily move actually... This is part of a bigger campaign JAL has set up to serve food from popular fast food restaurants in Japan on board. Judging by the fact that this is not their first "restaurant" featured (It's actually the seventh) I'd venture to guess it's quite popular.

http://gigazine.net/news/20121128-jal-kfc-air/ That's in case you're wondering how it will work, I say it looks just fine and better than those "posh" wraps everyone seems to get as a second meal as transatlantic flights, even ANA has served a very sad looking burrito as a second meal on transpacific flights.

And for anyone with your panties in a knot about this, they'll also bring back the Yoshinoya meals for a limited time on the SAN-NRT and LAX-NRT flights so you have something to be aghast about on your westbound Pacific crossings as well  .

http://press.jal.co.jp/en/release/201203/002050.html The pic is from the previous Yoshinoya campaign but they'll be back for the SAN and LAX outbound flights (according to JALPak's blog).

I wish they'd bring back the Air Mos Burger.. yes, in the past they actually had Mosburger on board ! http://press.jal.co.jp/ja/release/201205/002129.html

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: Stitch
Posted 2012-11-29 10:36:56 and read 12338 times.

Quoting SYDSpotter (Reply 2):
Does first and business class get the 'upsize' meal?   

Business Class gets mashed potatoes in addition to cole slaw.

First Class also gets mashed potatoes, but the bread is replaced with biscuits.

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: ordjoe
Posted 2012-11-29 10:54:00 and read 12114 times.

Quoting SR117 (Reply 15):
I wish they'd bring back the Air Mos Burger.. yes, in the past they actually had Mosburger on board !

Oh that would be amazing, something Japanese, quick and not that expensive.

My thoughts, airline food is already extremely unhealthy for the most part, so I do not think we took that big of a step backward in that regard.

From my experience fried food does not reheat very well, but they might have a way around that via recipe and prep method.

I always thought in Asia that KFC while KFC might not be "upscale" in the strictest sense, it is much more accepted and popular than in the US. In the US it is viewed as more drunk food or you just want something in a hurry.
Sort of off topic, but I will say down in Grenada there is 1 KFC and it is actually quite good, probably has to do with the chicken being very local and fresh.
I just hope this is not being served in the F or J cabins.

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: jwhite9185
Posted 2012-11-29 10:55:12 and read 12085 times.

Quoting usairways85 (Reply 4):
Didn't UA serve McDonalds for some time?

Yep, remember having a cheeseburger and fries on the way home from SFO back in 1995.

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: trex8
Posted 2012-11-29 10:57:47 and read 12054 times.

In F it will be served on china plates, J on plastic and Y in a paper box! And oh, F and J will get choice of dark or white meat, original or extra crispy!

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: Stitch
Posted 2012-11-29 11:01:59 and read 11988 times.

Quoting SR117 (Reply 15):
And for anyone with your panties in a knot about this, they'll also bring back the Yoshinoya meals for a limited time on the SAN-NRT and LAX-NRT flights so you have something to be aghast about on your westbound Pacific crossings as well.

Well with Yoshinoya Beef Bowls all over LA and SAN, they were probably catering to the US crowd there, as well.  
Quoting SR117 (Reply 15):
I wish they'd bring back the Air Mos Burger.. yes, in the past they actually had Mosburger on board !

Now for a MOS Burger, I'd almost switch from NH to JL.   

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: KiwiRob
Posted 2012-11-29 11:03:30 and read 11955 times.

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 6):
KFC is what you eat when you are incredibly drunk and need food before heading home on a night out, not a "light" meal to keep you going on a 12 hour flight.

Except if you live in Norway where KFC hasn't arrived, it's a long drive to Copenhagen where I think they still have three locations.

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: airbazar
Posted 2012-11-29 11:04:26 and read 11925 times.

Quoting usairways85 (Reply 4):
I don't know about Japan but in China KFC has become extremely popular. Didn't UA serve McDonalds for some time?

One of my earliest trips to China was a visit to Shangai in 1994 and KFC was the biggest and most popular restaurant in town. It was ridiculous. And it's not just China. For some reason KFC and Pizza Hut are hugely popular all over Asia. Personally I don't find their basic fried chicken too bad, but it's not something I'd want to eat on a plane.

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: bluesky73
Posted 2012-11-29 11:14:58 and read 11758 times.

Brings a new meaning to Kentucky flied chicken and definitely fast food at 500mph 

I like occasional KFC, But think cabin will smell with all that take away food.

Maybe Starbucks or Costa next?

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: kordcj
Posted 2012-11-29 11:48:28 and read 11350 times.

If they served Mos Burger AND CC Lemon, I'd ditch Star Alliance to Japan in an instant. I'd actually look forward to meal time just for that CC Lemon   

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: SCQ83
Posted 2012-11-29 11:58:32 and read 11574 times.

Quoting bluesky73 (Reply 23):
Brings a new meaning to Kentucky flied chicken and definitely fast food at 500mph

I like occasional KFC, But think cabin will smell with all that take away food.

Maybe Starbucks or Costa next?

If I am not wrong, certain US carriers (United one of them) already serve Starbucks' products.

As for the KFC thing, I feel it is quite unfortunate from JAL's side when many Western corporations and governments are trying to discourage the consumption of junk-food.

Also how many choices of meals do JAL have in Economy? I guess that being a Japanese carrier, they will have a sushi/fish dish by default... if the other is KFC's junkfood... that might be quite of a trouble for a Western passenger... I like sushi but I need some more substantial in a long flight.

Not to talk about the smell, there are not many things as uncomfortable in a plane as the passenger who just grabs his or her take-away McDonald's or BK menu in flight... the smell is nauseating... I can't imagine how it will be with 100 people eating fried chicken.

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: IrishAyes
Posted 2012-11-29 12:21:36 and read 11275 times.

Quoting ordjoe (Reply 17):
My thoughts, airline food is already extremely unhealthy for the most part, so I do not think we took that big of a step backward in that regard.

It's actually not. ANA listed calorie counts on their YCL meals (avail online) and there are definitely options ranging in the 500-700 kcal frame which I find perfectly acceptable.

Even on carriers like AA, UA and DL, the main course items generally consist of a protein or a starch with vegetables and some carb. That and the starter (lettuce) are fine.

It's when you add on the supplements like dessert (brownie) or cheese, butter, dinner roll, etc. does it become unhealthy.

In the premium cabins, there is often always a healthy alternative such as white fish (instead of steak) and cereal/fruit and yogurt instead of the cheese omelet.

It's only when you start adding in multiple rounds of drinks and the self-serve Sundaes does it become bad.

Quoting SCQ83 (Reply 25):
If I am not wrong, certain US carriers (United one of them) already serve Starbucks' products.

UA hasn't served sbux coffee for over a year now. Ever since the merger, UA/CO has used Freshbrew.

Quoting SCQ83 (Reply 25):
As for the KFC thing, I feel it is quite unfortunate from JAL's side when many Western corporations and governments are trying to discourage the consumption of junk-food.

Trivia: the first coronary ICU in Tokyo was established only after McDonald's set up shop in Japan  
Quoting SCQ83 (Reply 25):
Not to talk about the smell, there are not many things as uncomfortable in a plane as the passenger who just grabs his or her take-away McDonald's or BK menu in flight... the smell is nauseating... I can't imagine how it will be with 100 people eating fried chicken.

I completely agree. I mean, I'm obviously not 100% innocent. I've been in some dogsh*t airports that only serve junk food and when you're on the go and hungry, sometimes a BK whopper is your only source of sustenance. I do try and avoid this whenever possible, and if time allows, I try to consume at the gate area, before takeoff, or in the lounge as to not bother other people.

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: FWAERJ
Posted 2012-11-29 12:37:49 and read 11131 times.

Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 26):
Quoting SCQ83 (Reply 25):
If I am not wrong, certain US carriers (United one of them) already serve Starbucks' products.

UA hasn't served sbux coffee for over a year now. Ever since the merger, UA/CO has used Freshbrew.

Even without UA, AS serves Starbucks, and DL serves Seattle's Best (a Starbucks brand).

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: danielkandi
Posted 2012-11-29 14:51:25 and read 9820 times.

They better get ready and buckle up for some lawsuits...... If I can go to a DJ job, and within half an hour of eating their chicken, vomit all over a fan, then I dread to think what will happen to LONG overdue throwouts. Or too long since heated-products. Honestly. They gave me my biggest ever foodpoisoning and nearly caused me to cancel the rest of my NZ/AUS tour. I love KFC. But I only get it if they make it fresh infront of me. As I dont dare it otherwise. Too dangerous!

Someone said Mos burger above. I would say, find out how to incorporate some of the TGI fridays in some of their menu's and I would consider their flights lol.

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: srbmod
Posted 2012-11-29 15:34:49 and read 9364 times.

Quoting longhauler (Reply 12):
It stays moist when reheated, and is accepted by most people.

And like pizza, not bad cold either.......

Definitely an interesting move to say the least. Reminds of how many AirTran flights out of ATL used to smell of Popeye's Chicken as there was an outlet on Concourse C that was quite popular (mainly because the food choices on C were pretty limited (The Popeye's is in the process of being replaced with a combination Chick-Fil-A and The Varsity [A local fast food institution.].).

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: UNITED91
Posted 2012-11-29 16:46:37 and read 8731 times.

Reminds me of the movie Soul Plane where everyone in coach gets Popeyes.

 

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: QantasAirways
Posted 2012-11-29 16:59:10 and read 8636 times.

Quoting kordcj (Reply 24):
China Airlines (Taiwanese flag carrier) serves Mos Burger onboard flights to Australia (and maybe other destinations). I've had it a few times now. Delicious!

[Edited 2012-11-29 16:59:50]

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: nitepilot79
Posted 2012-11-29 17:06:01 and read 8565 times.

Quoting srbmod (Reply 29):
Definitely an interesting move to say the least. Reminds of how many AirTran flights out of ATL used to smell of Popeye's Chicken as there was an outlet on Concourse C that was quite popular (mainly because the food choices on C were pretty limited (The Popeye's is in the process of being replaced with a combination Chick-Fil-A and The Varsity [A local fast food institution.].).

"Bojangles" has better deep-fried goodness than ANY other franchised chicken joint the SE USA has to offer. Bet!  

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: trent1000
Posted 2012-11-29 17:12:27 and read 8497 times.

Quoting HiJazzey (Reply 5):
they'll serve this as the second meal.

Since when has 2 chicken nuggets, a mini roll & spoon of coleslaw been classified as a "meal"??
It hardly rates as a snack. It would barely constitute something to feed a child...

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: trex8
Posted 2012-11-29 17:25:13 and read 8389 times.

Quoting SCQ83 (Reply 25):
As for the KFC thing, I feel it is quite unfortunate from JAL's side when many Western corporations and governments are trying to discourage the consumption of junk-food.

KFC chicken isn't junk food. "regular" chicken served for airline meals is junk food! If you eat fried high fat foods whether served by a fast food chain or at a fancy sit down restaurant frequently then it is bad for your health.

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: SR117
Posted 2012-11-29 17:29:00 and read 8368 times.

Quoting trent1000 (Reply 33):
Since when has 2 chicken nuggets, a mini roll & spoon of coleslaw been classified as a "meal"??
It hardly rates as a snack. It would barely constitute something to feed a child...

Look at what the competition has been serving as a second meal according to these reports:

ANA Inspiration Of Japan "Y" NRT-FRA (by planereality Jul 20 2010 in Trip Reports)

ANA "Inspiration Of Japan" In Y, JFK-NRT (by spacecadet Jun 22 2010 in Trip Reports)

I'll take my fried chicken sandwich thankyou   BTW.. it's not 2 chicken nuggets, it's a drumstick and a boneless piece of chicken breast for the sandwich.

Quoting ordjoe (Reply 17):
I always thought in Asia that KFC while KFC might not be "upscale" in the strictest sense, it is much more accepted and popular than in the US. In the US it is viewed as more drunk food or you just want something in a hurry.

I've had KFC and McDonalds in Japan and they're not bad at all, I'm thinking their quality also depends a lot on local produce and regulations..

Quoting Stitch (Reply 20):
Well with Yoshinoya Beef Bowls all over LA and SAN, they were probably catering to the US crowd there, as well.  

Yes exactly, I'm guessing the overabundance of Yoshinoya outlets in SoCal makes this a no brainer. Still, I'm impressed at JAL's ability to tailor menus to local availability. Very neat if you ask me.

Ricardo

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: FlyASAGuy2005
Posted 2012-11-29 17:51:03 and read 8160 times.

Quoting nitepilot79 (Reply 32):
"Bojangles" has better deep-fried goodness than ANY other franchised chicken joint the SE USA has to offer. Bet!

GROSS!!!! Bonjangles is so nasty!

Quoting SR117 (Reply 35):
I've had KFC and McDonalds in Japan and they're not bad at all, I'm thinking their quality also depends a lot on local produce and regulations..

That is a fact. I've found fast food in certain countries to be much more tasty than in the US. Namely McDonald's.

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: UA735WL
Posted 2012-11-29 19:25:36 and read 7472 times.

Interesting move on the part of JL. Can't say that I'd be too excited about it...but then again, most airline offerings in Y don't excite me. I do wonder, however, if the high calorie and fat content of fried chicken has a greater negative effect on an airborne versus a consumer on the ground, mainly due to the inability of the airborne consumer being unable to do any sort of meaningful physical activity immediately afterwords-would make an interesting study....

Quoting danielkandi (Reply 28):
I love KFC. But I only get it if they make it fresh infront of me. As I dont dare it otherwise. Too dangerous!

I think that KFC could actually be SAFER than most other airline food. KFC is a huge multinational restaurant chain, serving millions each day. One would think that they would be held a better safety standard than a smaller (albeit multinational as well) airline catering company that serves far fewer meals per day. Point is, (percentage wise), l'd bet that you are far more likely to get sick from "normal" airline food than from a meal catered by KFC. I could be wrong, though.....it would be interesting to see a comparison of frequency of food poisoning in fast food restaurants versus airline catering.

[Edited 2012-11-29 19:46:23]

[Edited 2012-11-29 19:49:08]

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: allrite
Posted 2012-11-29 19:35:24 and read 7433 times.

Apparently KFC is a popular Xmas season dish in Japan, but it is the last thing I want to eat on a flight (*nightmares of working late night tech support*).

I wonder if they will serve it up blended for the children.   

Quoting UA735WL (Reply 37):
I think that KFC could actually be SAFER than most other airline food.

Not according to this court case.

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: jet-lagged
Posted 2012-11-29 19:39:23 and read 7379 times.

What a terrible idea.

Unhealthy junk. Not Japanese. Not an original creation. Messy. Cheapens their image.

What are they thinking??

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: usflyer msp
Posted 2012-11-29 19:46:42 and read 7302 times.

I am not a fan of this move. I don;t eat KFC on the ground much less in the air. I do like (Popeye's occasionally). Asian KFC is better than US KFC but that is not really saying much.

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: jtl11968
Posted 2012-11-29 19:47:05 and read 7327 times.

All the negative comments are coming from non-Japanese and Chinese folks. KFC in China and Japan is incredibly popular. More so than McDonald's. What is wrong with a company attempting to offer a unique meal option? IMO, it's better than overcooked pasta or rubbery mystery-meat on the US carriers.

[Edited 2012-11-29 19:49:40]

[Edited 2012-11-29 19:50:26]

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: FI642
Posted 2012-11-29 19:51:29 and read 7267 times.

Quoting UNITED91 (Reply 30):

Reminds me of the movie Soul Plane where everyone in coach gets Popeyes.

Which is FAR superior. . . . and I'd rather have sushi!

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: UA735WL
Posted 2012-11-29 19:53:59 and read 7265 times.

Quoting jtl11968 (Reply 41):
All the negative comments are coming from non-Japanese and Chinese folks. KFC in China and Japan is incredibly popular. More so than McDonald's. What is wrong with a company attempting to offer a unique meal option? IMO, it's better than "pasta or chicken".

Perhaps this is because JL plans to serve the KFC on US and European routes...KFC is not *quite* as popular in those places as in Asia. Maybe KFC would be better suited to domestic Japanese routes...

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: Irishpower
Posted 2012-11-30 00:19:53 and read 5904 times.

I can't believe this. With obesity and diabetes rates on the rise, this is just what we need.

Awful decision!

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: gardermoen
Posted 2012-11-30 02:48:58 and read 5294 times.

"Hello Japan Airlines, 1981 called, they want their promotional gimmicks back..."

This is the sort of thing I would expect from one of those new Japanese low costs, like Peach, Air Asia Japan or Jetstar Japan, not a full frills airline like Japan Airlines!

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: PHX787
Posted 2012-11-30 09:19:16 and read 4728 times.

I just wanna chime in here: have you guys ever tried Japanese KFC? It is SOOOOO amazingly delicious, in comparison to the original American KFC.   

I'm pretty sure Japanese fliers are thrilled right now.

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: nitepilot79
Posted 2012-11-30 17:22:19 and read 4433 times.

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 36):
GROSS!!!! Bonjangles is so nasty!
Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 36):

GROSS!!!! Bonjangles is so nasty!

I guess quality control has slipped. They used to be the best. Too bad.

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: jet-lagged
Posted 2012-11-30 20:10:35 and read 4290 times.

Quoting jtl11968 (Reply 41):
KFC in China and Japan is incredibly popular. More so than McDonald's.

In China I think yes. At least, there are more KFCs than McDonald's. In fact, something like 30% of YUM's business comes from China now.

KFCs are not very popular in Japan. Japan supports approximately 3,700 McDonald's. KFCs are few and far between.

Japan and China are different countries with different cultures.

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: ikramerica
Posted 2012-11-30 21:07:53 and read 4195 times.

Popeyes spicy strips please. Kicks KFC buttocks

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: JohnClipper
Posted 2012-11-30 21:24:20 and read 4183 times.

Please remember that KFC, McDonald's, Pizza Hut, etc taste different than what is served in the U.S. I would not think about eating either in the U.S. but the taste is different out here. Has anyone in the U.S. even tried McDonald's chicken wings (yes, McDonald's) or do you even know about them?

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: spacecadet
Posted 2012-11-30 23:46:54 and read 4052 times.

Quoting SR117 (Reply 35):
Look at what the competition has been serving as a second meal according to these reports:

I wrote one of those reports  

ANA's second meal is almost always ridiculous. Though last time I flew they had Yoshinoya also (I didn't realize JAL had them too), and that was very good - at least compared to their normal second meals. Yoshinoya is the perfect meal to serve on board because it reheats really well - there was very little difference between eating it on the plane and at a real Yoshinoya.

Quoting jet-lagged (Reply 48):
KFCs are not very popular in Japan.

Are you kidding? KFC is *hugely* popular in Japan, and Colonel Sanders is an icon there probably even moreso than in the US (where most kids probably have never heard of him at this point). It's almost traditional to eat KFC as a Christmas meal in Japan, which is weird but true. That's why JAL is doing this when they are.

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: SR117
Posted 2012-12-01 00:33:53 and read 3967 times.

Quoting spacecadet (Reply 51):
ANA's second meal is almost always ridiculous. Though last time I flew they had Yoshinoya also (I didn't realize JAL had them too), and that was very good - at least compared to their normal second meals. Yoshinoya is the perfect meal to serve on board because it reheats really well - there was very little difference between eating it on the plane and at a real Yoshinoya.

Hehe, nice work with the report ! And yes, that burrito with "piquant sauce" is hilarious ; ) In all fairness to ANA though, according to their latest menu, it seems they have upgraded their second meals and they look quite decent. However the LAX-HND flight still only lists the sad looking sandwich as a pre-departure meal.

Anyways, basically this KFC thing has the same ingredients as pre-arrival meals most on other airlines so I don't see how it can be a bad thing. You've got a meat, carbs and some salad, no different than getting a slice of pizza or a sandwich. And thanks to the whole fried part of the equation, it'll probably stay moist through the reheating process ; ) Only downside is that there's only one choice for 2nd meal on JL while there now seems to be two choices on NH.

So what's next after KFC? Coco Curry perhaps?   Seems like these restaurant partnerships generate some free publicity for JAL.

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: spacecadet
Posted 2012-12-02 18:52:16 and read 3492 times.

Quoting SR117 (Reply 52):
Hehe, nice work with the report ! And yes, that burrito with "piquant sauce" is hilarious ; ) In all fairness to ANA though, according to their latest menu, it seems they have upgraded their second meals and they look quite decent.

Haha, I actually forgot about the "piquant sauce" until I re-read that just now.

But yeah, I wish I could update that report a bit now - I will write a new one after my next flight, no doubt, because we're finally flying in J class in April. So I'll get to try the staggered business (and maybe even the older J one way - we're taking the new second flight from JFK). The economy service has improved again since my burrito report, though - I think a lot of people complained. They brought back the ice cream, for one thing, and at least serve Cup Noodles as a snack now.

Anyway, the only problem I see with the KFC on JAL is in how they plan to reheat it. I've reheated KFC in my toaster oven quite well, but that takes a while. I hope they're not planning to use a microwave.

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: BD338
Posted 2012-12-02 19:38:49 and read 3428 times.

Could this start a trend? Maybe BA serving Harry Ramsdens Fish & Chips and QF serving Tiger meat pies from Harrys Cafe de Wheels?  

I know KFC is amazingly popular in Asia but it still kind of surprises me.

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: yyz717
Posted 2012-12-03 00:00:44 and read 3242 times.

Quoting BD338 (Reply 54):
I know KFC is amazingly popular in Asia but it still kind of surprises me.

Exactly. I guess the marketing wizards at JAL don't realize how down-market KFC is in North America.

Will this culinary delight be restricted to economy class? Let's hope so.....

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: gigneil
Posted 2012-12-03 00:06:32 and read 3233 times.

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 6):
What a ridiculous move and how irresponsible of the airline to serve food which such high fat content.

Ugh I hate this incorrect generalization. Grain is the worst thing you can possibly feed someone, yet I bet you wouldn't mind if they advertised a whole grain rice pilaf or some sort of "light" sandwich.

NS

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: okAY
Posted 2012-12-03 00:11:24 and read 3226 times.

The idea sounds quite unattractive. To have that greasy smell lingering in the cabin on a long haul flight.. They better stock up some extra vomit bags! I also find it a little irresponsable to promote fatty fast food in times when obesity has become a real problem in modern world.

okAY

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: kochikaze
Posted 2012-12-03 03:52:03 and read 3094 times.

Quoting SR117 (Reply 52):
So what's next after KFC? Coco Curry perhaps?  

Maybe Gindaco or Marugame...   

Kochi

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: MEL
Posted 2012-12-03 05:26:47 and read 3012 times.

Not sure if this link will work or not,

But here's a photo of my KFC meal on yesterday's JAL 787 flight from Tokyo-Boston. It was very unusual having KFC on an airplane (no less a Japanese Airline) but it was still better than a normal omlette, congee, or other less-than stellar "prior to arrival" meal.

KFC Meal - JAL flight 8 TOKYO-BOSTON

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: airbazar
Posted 2012-12-03 06:07:48 and read 2937 times.

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 36):
That is a fact. I've found fast food in certain countries to be much more tasty than in the US. Namely McDonald's.
Quoting JohnClipper (Reply 50):
Please remember that KFC, McDonald's, Pizza Hut, etc taste different than what is served in the U.S. I would not think about eating either in the U.S. but the taste is different out here.

When you're jet lagged, as when you're drunk, everything tastes good.
As for the "unhealthy" comments. It's only unhealthy if you eat it too much and too often. I'm not above eating McD's, KFc, or Pizza Hut. I don't particularly like it but I'll eat it once of twice per month. It's the people who eat it every single day that are in trouble. But a portion of KFC is no more unhealthy than the great American lunch meal: cold cut sandwich. Now that stuff will kill you.

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: babybus
Posted 2012-12-03 06:16:56 and read 2911 times.

Those fast food meals tend to give people flatulence even on the ground. I can't imagine how smelly the cabin would be with everyone letting off bangers.

This kind of meal arrangement might be better suited to a short internal flight.

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: ikramerica
Posted 2012-12-03 09:25:38 and read 2803 times.

Quoting airbazar (Reply 60):
As for the "unhealthy" comments. It's only unhealthy if you eat it too much and too often. I'm not above eating McD's, KFc, or Pizza Hut. I don't particularly like it but I'll eat it once of twice per month. It's the people who eat it every single day that are in trouble. But a portion of KFC is no more unhealthy than the great American lunch meal: cold cut sandwich. Now that stuff will kill you.

Not entirely true.

Pizza Hut is NEVER healthy. One slice is super bad for you. Now, not saying you can't eat it, not saying it cant' taste good, but it's simply never healthy.

KFC and McD have plenty of healthy options, relatively speaking, and as you state, most of their items can be eaten in moderation. That said, certain menu items are also never healthy.

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: AeroWesty
Posted 2012-12-03 17:50:04 and read 2612 times.

Quoting MEL (Reply 59):
KFC Meal - JAL flight 8 TOKYO-BOSTON

That actually doesn't look all that bad for Coach.

A friend of mine is flying HND-LAX in a few weeks, and I had to chuckle when I looked up the menu to see if he was getting fried chicken too. One of the items in ANA's second meal in Business Class is "Deep-fried chicken drenched in spicy piquant sauce topped with tartar sauce."

I could get down with what sounds like it could be a play on Buffalo wings, but I'm not so sure I could wrap myself around the thought of it dipped in tartar sauce. To each his own, I guess.

http://www.ana.co.jp/int/inflight/gu.../pdf/201212/hnd_lax_c_201212_m.pdf

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: spacecadet
Posted 2012-12-03 22:42:10 and read 2471 times.

Quoting airbazar (Reply 60):
It's the people who eat it every single day that are in trouble.

Even that's not necessarily true. It's the people who eat it every day without regard to the rest of their daily intake that are in trouble. And it's worse if you have a certain genetic profile.

I admit to enjoying me some KFC, and between KFC, Wendy's, Taco Bell, and Burger King, honest to God I've been eating some kind of fast food every day for the last 30 years and my cholesterol is "perfect" according to my doctor and my BMI is right where it should be. Certainly fast food *can* be very bad for you if you're stupid about what you eat at a fast food restaurant, and it's true that it's pretty easy to be stupid with the way the menus are structured to push you into upsizing everything, thinking everything needs to be slathered with cheese, and adding things like dessert or sugary drinks on. But if you pay even basic attention to calories, fat and carbs - and I don't mean studying the nutritional fact sheet, I just mean realizing that a bucket of chicken is probably not a well balanced meal for one person, despite it being an option on the menu - then fast food restaurants are really no worse than food most people make themselves at home. I mean let's face it, most people are not making salad for dinner when they cook in their own kitchen.

And to that point, I don't see why the KFC meal as linked just a few replies up is really at all unhealthy, especially compared with any other airline food. It is certainly no less healthy than the bean and cheese burrito ANA served me a couple trips ago. And if you want to talk about airline food causing flatulence...

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 62):
Pizza Hut is NEVER healthy. One slice is super bad for you.

Why do you say that? Pizza in general is actually pretty healthy: http://www.fatsecret.com/calories-nutrition/generic/margherita-pizza

It has a lot of carbs, so personally I wouldn't eat it too often, but there's nothing inherently unhealthy about it. It's all stuff you should be eating anyway - grains, dairy, vegetables and protein.

Is there something you think Pizza Hut specifically does that makes their pies automatically "super bad" for you?

Topic: RE: JAL To Serve KFC On US And European Routes
Username: gigneil
Posted 2012-12-03 22:49:22 and read 2463 times.

Quoting spacecadet (Reply 64):
It has a lot of carbs, so personally I wouldn't eat it too often, but there's nothing inherently unhealthy about it. It's all stuff you should be eating anyway - grains, dairy, vegetables and protein.

Grains and dairy are inherently unhealthy. Your body was not intended to eat either.

Fat, however, is the primary food your body is designed to eat.

How many Neanderthals did you catch enjoying a boneless skinless chicken breast with Uncle Ben's brown rice and a glass of milk?

NS


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