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Topic: Delta Air Lines-US-Prague Service "seasonal"?
Username: Sevensixtyseven
Posted 2012-12-02 12:16:18 and read 5375 times.

What happened to Delta's service from JFK to Prague? It seems that there is no more nonstop service between the US and the Czech Republic anymore, with the exception of a "seasonal" service from JFK to PRG. What is the status of this flight, and what are the timings/equipment on this route, and when does it restart?

After looking through pages, I've gathered that both Delta and CSA both served North America nonstop to Prague to various cities, but they don't anymore. Can anyone also provide timings/equipment on past routes as well?

Finally, Why has there been little success lately to flying to Central/Eastern Europe nonstop from the US? I would have thought that Skyteam would utilise CSA's hub for Eastern European passengers as opposed to using CDG or AMS for transferring passengers.


I attempted to use the search function for a definite answer to my question, and didn't find anything useful.

Topic: RE: Delta Air Lines-US-Prague Service "seasonal"?
Username: kngkyle
Posted 2012-12-02 12:20:57 and read 5355 times.

It does seem strange that there isn't at least one year-around flight from the US to Prague. I'm sure there will be in the future, sounds like a good route for the 787.

Topic: RE: Delta Air Lines-US-Prague Service "seasonal"?
Username: zruda
Posted 2012-12-02 14:32:40 and read 5088 times.

nobody here really gets it, as this DL route was usually pretty full and pax demand it every now and then, but I guess its called revenue management .)

Topic: RE: Delta Air Lines-US-Prague Service "seasonal"?
Username: jporterfi
Posted 2012-12-02 14:36:09 and read 5075 times.

DL 210 JFK-PRG 8:05PM - 10:35 AM Boeing 76G

It looks like it resumes on May 24th, 2013.

Topic: RE: Delta Air Lines-US-Prague Service "seasonal"?
Username: rj777
Posted 2012-12-02 14:50:59 and read 5011 times.

Is CSA ever going to get anymore wide-body planes?

[Edited 2012-12-02 14:51:53]

Topic: RE: Delta Air Lines-US-Prague Service "seasonal"?
Username: FreshSide3
Posted 2012-12-02 16:01:38 and read 4867 times.

CSA is also problematic for US customers on connections, since a couple of the US carriers no longer have agreements with them.

Topic: RE: Delta Air Lines-US-Prague Service "seasonal"?
Username: zruda
Posted 2012-12-02 16:06:32 and read 4848 times.

Quoting rj777 (Reply 4):

unless some big player buys them I assume that no way

Topic: RE: Delta Air Lines-US-Prague Service "seasonal"?
Username: netjetandy
Posted 2012-12-02 16:50:15 and read 4751 times.

I don't get it either. The route is always packed when it exists. I travel through Prague to get to Bratislava Slovakia at least every other month and all I can say is somebody has to figure out a way to make it work because it's killing when Delta isnt running the route and I'm stuck on KLM or Air France.

Topic: RE: Delta Air Lines-US-Prague Service "seasonal"?
Username: Sevensixtyseven
Posted 2012-12-02 18:58:09 and read 4582 times.

I did find out that CSA's problem was money and the cost of running widebodies, so that explains their exit from the market..but..why the fact nobody else can make it run is still confusing. It's not like DL has so few planes to run on the route..

Topic: RE: Delta Air Lines-US-Prague Service "seasonal"?
Username: JBAirwaysFan
Posted 2012-12-02 19:10:58 and read 4544 times.

Quoting zruda (Reply 2):
but I guess its called revenue management .)

More like route planning and analysis, but I get where you're coming from.

Topic: RE: Delta Air Lines-US-Prague Service "seasonal"?
Username: 9w748capt
Posted 2012-12-02 19:41:13 and read 4490 times.

yup, flew on OK an ice age ago when they were running the 310s EWR-PRG. Good stuff, cute (fat) little (wide) plane, nice crews, pretty good service and packed to the gills as far as I can remember. I guess the yields just aren't there to sustain this year-round.

Topic: RE: Delta Air Lines-US-Prague Service "seasonal"?
Username: LJ
Posted 2012-12-03 03:54:49 and read 4229 times.

Quoting Sevensixtyseven (Thread starter):

Finally, Why has there been little success lately to flying to Central/Eastern Europe nonstop from the US? I would have thought that Skyteam would utilise CSA's hub for Eastern European passengers as opposed to using CDG or AMS for transferring passengers.

Nothing to do with Central/Eastern Europe. The Europe - US market collapses each Winter and it's cheaper to have your plane doing nothing than flying at a big loss. Hence why DL has a lot of seasonal routes (not just PRG). The reason they don't use PRG as a hub is that there is barely traffic enough for AMS and CDG (prime DL hubs in Europe) and thus no need to have an additional hub in Eastern Europe. On a positive note, JFK-PRG is back in the Skyteam timetable for W13, but this can change quickly.

Topic: RE: Delta Air Lines-US-Prague Service "seasonal"?
Username: redzeppelin
Posted 2012-12-03 05:21:03 and read 3980 times.

Quoting LJ (Reply 11):

This brings up something that I have wondered about in the past, which is what prevents DL from having more extensive code-shares with certain SkyTeam partners, particularly SU and OK. There are a number of secondary destinations in Eastern Europe where those two carriers provide the only SkyTeam service, yet I can't book a ticket there with DL due to the lack of code shares. This includes, for example, some important Ukrainian airports like DOK, DNK and HRK. The only way to get there from my home airport using SkyTeam is with an interline ticket booked from a third party. It would be nice to see more cooperation.

Topic: RE: Delta Air Lines-US-Prague Service "seasonal"?
Username: Jano
Posted 2012-12-03 06:28:14 and read 3764 times.

Quoting redzeppelin (Reply 12):
This brings up something that I have wondered about in the past, which is what prevents DL from having more extensive code-shares with certain SkyTeam partners, particularly SU and OK.

Probably delta.com not able to do it - at least the old one was not able to do that kind of search. For long time I was flying TYS - ILZ (when OK was still flying PRG - ILZ) and I could not book that on Delta.com. But a call to Delta (and NW before) always took care of those tickets.

Topic: RE: Delta Air Lines-US-Prague Service "seasonal"?
Username: ordjoe
Posted 2012-12-03 07:59:11 and read 3388 times.

Quoting redzeppelin (Reply 12):
particularly SU

That has to do with Russian laws or some sort of bilateral. AA really does not codeshare with S7
I do not doubt that these planes to PRG are packed, but remember packed does not mean money making. PRG is not really a global business center. I am betting most of those seats are discount Y travelers and people in J are using miles or buying heavily discounted J tickets.

Topic: RE: Delta Air Lines-US-Prague Service "seasonal"?
Username: Viscount724
Posted 2012-12-03 11:31:14 and read 2696 times.

Quoting Sevensixtyseven (Thread starter):
Finally, Why has there been little success lately to flying to Central/Eastern Europe nonstop from the US?

Not enough high-yield business traffic. It's easy to fill the flights but it's almost all price-sensitive VFR and tourist traffic, which isn't willing to pay a premium for nonstop service over the many carriers operating convenient one-stop connections.

[Edited 2012-12-03 12:18:18]

Topic: RE: Delta Air Lines-US-Prague Service "seasonal"?
Username: mah4546
Posted 2012-12-03 11:35:36 and read 2678 times.

PRG is just suffering the same problem that most of the U.S.-Europe market is experiencing: falling demand. The market sucks right now, yields suck and there are no signs of improving demand.

Just about the only things doing well between the U.S. and Europe right now are Barcelona (thanks to Americans flocking there, not Spain's colapsing economy), Istanbul and Moscow.

Topic: RE: Delta Air Lines-US-Prague Service "seasonal"?
Username: xjramper
Posted 2012-12-03 12:00:14 and read 2574 times.

Quoting redzeppelin (Reply 12):
The only way to get there from my home airport using SkyTeam is with an interline ticket booked from a third party. It would be nice to see more cooperation.

It has less to do with lack of cooperation and more to do with Russian transit/arrival if problems with flights arise. If you hold a US passport, you encounter problems pertaining to visa issues arriving at SVO, where transit thru CDG/AMS require none.

With OK (and PRG as a whole) there isn't much demand to make a connection via that city simply due to lack of network compared to KL/AF. And as MAH stated above, European travel during the winter is abysmal. I've seen two flights during the winter cancel due to weather in Europe and the next day's flights still have seats available.

Topic: RE: Delta Air Lines-US-Prague Service "seasonal"?
Username: FlyASAGuy2005
Posted 2012-12-04 05:46:56 and read 2256 times.

Quoting kngkyle (Reply 1):
It does seem strange that there isn't at least one year-around flight from the US to Prague. I'm sure there will be in the future, sounds like a good route for the 787.

Exactly why would the 787 be a good route for U.S.-PRG

Topic: RE: Delta Air Lines-US-Prague Service "seasonal"?
Username: ushermittwoch
Posted 2012-12-04 06:11:18 and read 2242 times.

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 18):
Exactly why would the 787 be a good route for U.S.-PRG

Because that's the flavor of the month on a.net, when it comes to making suggestions. The 787 is the answer to all questions.


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