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Topic: Is JetBlue Going With One Tail Design?
Username: doulasc
Posted 2012-12-02 16:15:53 and read 9301 times.

I have noticed the few planes JetBlue has redone in the big billboard titles a new tail design goes with
it. Its the tail design that doesn't completly cover the tail. I would hate to see the various tail designs
disappear. My favorite being the bubbles. It seems JetBlue has stalled on redoing their planes in the
bigger titles.

Topic: RE: Is JetBlue Going With One Tail Design?
Username: doulasc
Posted 2012-12-02 16:24:59 and read 9243 times.

I spoke too soon,I just looked at JetBlue photos from 2012,looks like all aircraft redone in big titles have two different tail designs with the other being stripes with different colors,

Topic: RE: Is JetBlue Going With One Tail Design?
Username: bos2laf
Posted 2012-12-02 16:25:58 and read 9244 times.

I've actually seen some with the new billboard titles with the classic tail designs.

So far I've seen Stripes and Bubbles with the new billboard titles. I think the aircraft are being repainted as they go in for heavy maintenance checks.

To answer your question: I highly doubt they are going with one tail design.

Topic: RE: Is JetBlue Going With One Tail Design?
Username: airliner371
Posted 2012-12-02 16:27:09 and read 9229 times.

A problem (small albeit) I notice when flying is that when people see an older tail design, some of the people that have seen B6 over the years know they are on an older plane.

When you have one livery, unless you look it up it is harder to know whether you are on a new or old plane. (i.e. Unless I look it up, I don't know how old the DL 737-800 is.)

Quoting doulasc (Thread starter):
Its the tail design that doesn't completly cover the tail.

Blueberries? http://www.jetblue.com/travel/planes/?intcmp=hd_travel_planes

Quoting doulasc (Reply 1):
the other being stripes with different colors,

Just so you know, its called Barcode.

[Edited 2012-12-02 16:29:33]

Topic: RE: Is JetBlue Going With One Tail Design?
Username: airjamaica
Posted 2012-12-02 16:43:05 and read 9122 times.

Quoting bos2laf (Reply 2):
I think the aircraft are being repainted as they go in for heavy maintenance checks.

Myself was wondering about their repainting. I was thinking they are being very slow with repainting the E190s. Seem the A320s are being repainted at a faster pace, but I could be wrong. But as you say, its probably done when they go in for heavy maintenance. I always end up getting the E190 or A320 with the classic livery. Never ended up on the '' bubbles '' or '' barcode '' etc with bold font on fuselage.....

Topic: RE: Is JetBlue Going With One Tail Design?
Username: airliner371
Posted 2012-12-02 16:48:00 and read 9095 times.

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 4):
Never ended up on the '' bubbles '' or '' barcode '' etc with bold font on fuselage.....

Bubbles is a classic one, Blueberries is the newer one.

Topic: RE: Is JetBlue Going With One Tail Design?
Username: spiritair97
Posted 2012-12-02 16:48:47 and read 9080 times.

Quoting doulasc (Thread starter):

There's actually three new designs with the billboard titles. N587JB has the "building blocks" tail, which is my second-favorite B6 tail scheme, behind the barcode. The issue, though, is that ONLY N587JB has the building blocks. I personally consider it a soecial scheme because it is one of a kind.

Topic: RE: Is JetBlue Going With One Tail Design?
Username: airjamaica
Posted 2012-12-02 17:08:58 and read 8999 times.

Quoting airliner371 (Reply 5):
Bubbles is a classic one, Blueberries is the newer one.

My bad...Meant to say '' Blueberries ''.............thanks

Topic: RE: Is JetBlue Going With One Tail Design?
Username: airliner371
Posted 2012-12-02 17:10:26 and read 8988 times.

Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 6):
There's actually three new designs with the billboard titles.

There are actually 6. Barcode, Blueberries, 10th Anniversary, NY's hometown airline, Boston Red Sox and Building Blocks.

Topic: RE: Is JetBlue Going With One Tail Design?
Username: spiritair97
Posted 2012-12-02 19:03:24 and read 8634 times.

Quoting airliner371 (Reply 8):

Thanks, but I was just referring to normal colorschemes, not actually special colorschemes.

Topic: RE: Is JetBlue Going With One Tail Design?
Username: JBLUA320
Posted 2012-12-02 20:08:54 and read 8414 times.

There is also at least one A320 with the harlequin tail that has received billboard titles. It's a registration in the 600s, I think it might be 646. I've worked on it twice now.

With the E190s, the newest deliveries all have the barcode tail. The next newest frames in the Embraer fleet all have the blueberries tail. These two tails represent ship numbers 317 and higher (I believe our newest E190 is tail 353).

On the Airbus fleet it's not as easy to tell anymore. Many of the planes are getting repainted into the barcode pattern and this represents tail numbers of all ages, from 508 (one of our oldest frames) all the way to 809 (our newest frame). Many of the 7-series A320s (these are the A320s with slimline seats and enhanced LED lighting) actually have the bubbles fin.

One tail fin we no longer have is the tartan pattern. It wasn't painted on many frames, mostly just the A320s with registrations in the 580s and 590s.


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Topic: RE: Is JetBlue Going With One Tail Design?
Username: lightsaber
Posted 2012-12-02 20:24:59 and read 8366 times.

Quoting airliner371 (Reply 3):

A problem (small albeit) I notice when flying is that when people see an older tail design, some of the people that have seen B6 over the years know they are on an older plane.

   That is why B6 stopped doing a new tail every year. However, I hoped they would keep the large variety. Perhaps they will retire older tails and then after say a 3 or 4 year break bring them back?

Lightsaber

Topic: RE: Is JetBlue Going With One Tail Design?
Username: JBLUA320
Posted 2012-12-02 20:43:04 and read 8318 times.

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 11):
That is why B6 stopped doing a new tail every year.

That's certainly a big part of it, but there is also a cost savings realized by streamlining the tail patterns. Less complex patterns (and fewer patterns in total) all reduces cost and simplifies the cost structure. For example, the complexity of the tartan pattern made it unviable, hence why it's now gone. Interesting bit, though, is that many of the men have the tartan pattern on our ties and the pattern is also on many of the women's scarves.

Topic: RE: Is JetBlue Going With One Tail Design?
Username: NASCARAirforce
Posted 2012-12-02 20:55:19 and read 8285 times.

Quoting JBLUA320 (Reply 10):
On the Airbus fleet it's not as easy to tell anymore. Many of the planes are getting repainted into the barcode pattern and this represents tail numbers of all ages, from 508 (one of our oldest frames) all the way to 809 (our newest frame). Many of the 7-series A320s (these are the A320s with slimline seats and enhanced LED lighting) actually have the bubbles fin.

Seems like I see more barcode than anything else by Jet Blue lately - so that explains it

Topic: RE: Is JetBlue Going With One Tail Design?
Username: airjamaica
Posted 2012-12-02 21:11:43 and read 8244 times.

Quoting JBLUA320 (Reply 10):
On the Airbus fleet it's not as easy to tell anymore. Many of the planes are getting repainted into the barcode pattern and this represents tail numbers of all ages, from 508 (one of our oldest frames) all the way to 809 (our newest frame).
Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 13):
Seems like I see more barcode than anything else by Jet Blue lately - so that explains it

Very true from my observations. The '' barcode '' is the most frequently seen tails on the JFK-KIN, JFK-MBJ & BOS-MBJ runs.

Topic: RE: Is JetBlue Going With One Tail Design?
Username: airliner371
Posted 2012-12-02 21:21:15 and read 8208 times.

I found 2 pictures of B6 older tails with the billboard...
http://www.planespotters.net/Aviation_Photos/photo.show?id=330258
http://www.planespotters.net/Aviation_Photos/photo.show?id=325194
http://www.planespotters.net/Aviation_Photos/photo.show?id=321525

And here is proof they are repainting....
http://www.planespotters.net/Product...20/2336,N599JB-JetBlue-Airways.php

Quoting JBLUA320 (Reply 10):
One tail fin we no longer have is the tartan pattern.

Interesting, I didn't realize that. The tail that by far needs to go, it should have been the first to go, its the most boring of them all, is Dots. I hate it.

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Topic: RE: Is JetBlue Going With One Tail Design?
Username: spiritair97
Posted 2012-12-02 22:57:56 and read 8020 times.

Quoting airliner371 (Reply 15):

Actually, the tartan pattern in plaid, not dots.

Topic: RE: Is JetBlue Going With One Tail Design?
Username: SXDFC
Posted 2012-12-02 23:37:59 and read 7942 times.

N655JB currently wears the special "100th A320" tail design and sticker on the side of the fuselage. Does anyone know if 655 will keep this special tail when its repainted? Also does anyone know when this particular plane is due for new paint?


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Topic: RE: Is JetBlue Going With One Tail Design?
Username: doulasc
Posted 2012-12-03 04:29:47 and read 7221 times.

I hope they do not get rid of bubbles. When the new A320 NEOs and A321s come in 2013 it will be interesting
what tail designs they will have.

Topic: RE: Is JetBlue Going With One Tail Design?
Username: aerlingusa330
Posted 2012-12-03 06:01:45 and read 6687 times.

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 11):
That is why B6 stopped doing a new tail every year. However, I hoped they would keep the large variety. Perhaps they will retire older tails and then after say a 3 or 4 year break bring them back?

Why don't they just paint the first few tail designs on new deliveries? Wouldn't it make sense to rotate designs on every couple new airplanes they receive? This would eliminate the pax observations that old tail design = old aircraft.

Topic: RE: Is JetBlue Going With One Tail Design?
Username: NASBWI
Posted 2012-12-03 10:53:59 and read 4937 times.

Quoting aerlingusa330 (Reply 19):
Wouldn't it make sense to rotate designs on every couple new airplanes they receive? This would eliminate the pax observations that old tail design = old aircraft.

I believe that approach was tried in 2006, when (IIRC) tail 636 was delivered in the original 'stripes' tail design, and subsequent deliveries recycled the older designs (harlequin, dots, bubbles, and mosaic) through the high -700 tail series, when both 'blueberries' and 'barcode' were introduced.

On the E190s, however, the tail designs were random from the get-go (in fact, I think 'harlequin' was the first E90 tail to be delivered, not stripes..and mosaic was the 2nd or 3rd).

Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 6):
The issue, though, is that ONLY N587JB has the building blocks. I personally consider it a soecial scheme because it is one of a kind.

I'm of the impression that 587 will continue to be the only aircraft to have that tail (much like blue100). The designer of the tail colors is an employee that won the contest, and IIRC, the deal was that the winning design would be a one-off, and not made a standard. I agree though, that it is very catchy, and I would've like to see it on more tails.

Topic: RE: Is JetBlue Going With One Tail Design?
Username: B6JFKH81
Posted 2012-12-03 15:40:37 and read 3275 times.

We are not going with 1 tail design. They did go a little overboard with the "barcode" tail because the new deliveries were coming in with the "barcode" and the re-paints in ROW were also getting "barcode" However, the planes going through ROW at this time are getting "classic" tails (but still going with the billboard titles), and based on my knowledge a new one will be thrown into the mix in 2013.

Topic: RE: Is JetBlue Going With One Tail Design?
Username: canyonblue17
Posted 2012-12-03 15:45:37 and read 3247 times.

Quoting airliner371 (Reply 8):
There are actually 6. Barcode, Blueberries, 10th Anniversary, NY's hometown airline, Boston Red Sox and Building Blocks.

You left out the New York Jets paint scheme.

Topic: RE: Is JetBlue Going With One Tail Design?
Username: B6JFKH81
Posted 2012-12-04 17:17:53 and read 2652 times.

The full list of the 15 different tail designs is (and names are as per the internal B6 tail listing page so these are what the airline calls the tails now)...sorry, they're not in order of design, just going off the pics on here:

BOS Red Sox:


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Barcode:


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Photo © Jeremy D. Dando



Dots:


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Photo © Yan David



Mosaic:


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Photo © Ryotaro Shinozaki



Harlequin:


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Window Pane:


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Bubbles:


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Photo © Rainer Bexten



Blueberries:


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Stripes:


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Photo © Mark L. Pollio



I [Heart] New York


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Plaid (being phased out from fleet):


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Blue 100:


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Building Blocks:


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NY Jets:


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10th Anniversary:


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The "Classic Tails" actually did come on some of the newer deliveries, and are also being incorporated into the paint line now in ROW so you are seeing the "Classic Tails" with billboard titles...got to see a couple recently.

Quoting airliner371 (Reply 15):
And here is proof they are repainting....


Aircraft re-painting is a normal thing for an airline to do, no proof needed LOL. We have been re-painting aircraft since 2005 actually (N503JB was done in early December 2005). We have moved locations/business partners over the years. We have used facilities in VCV, SLW, and currently ROW. Standby for the E190's to start rolling through the re-paint lines in 2013. To date, B6 has re-painted the following aircraft (I think I got 'em all):

N503JB
N504JB
N505JB
N506JB
N508JL
N509JB
N510JB
N516JB
N517JB
N519JB
N520JB
N521JB
N523JB
N524JB
N526JL
N529JB
N531JL
N534JB
N535JB
N536JB
N547JB
N552JB
N554JB
N556JB
N558JB
N559JB
N561JB
N562JB
N563JB
N564JB
N565JB
N566JB
N568JB
N569JB
N570JB
N571JB
N579JB
N580JB
N583JB
N584JB
N585JB
N586JB
N587JB
N588JB
N589JB
N590JB
N591JB
N592JB
N593JB
N594JB
N595JB
N597JB
N598JB
N599JB
N603JB
N605JB
N618JB
N621JB
N623JB
N624JB
N625JB
N627JB
N630JB
N632JB
N633JB
N634JB
N639JB
N640JB
N643JB
N644JB
N645JB
N646JB
N648JB
N649JB
N651JB
N652JB
N653JB
N657JB
N659JB
N746JB
N779JB


Hope that helps. Now, believe it or not, I have to get back to the fleet-wide paint inspection LOL.

~H81

Topic: RE: Is JetBlue Going With One Tail Design?
Username: airliner371
Posted 2012-12-04 17:31:35 and read 2627 times.

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 23):
Aircraft re-painting is a normal thing for an airline to do, no proof needed LOL.

Hahaha, poor wording on my part, proof they are repainting old liveries to the newer ones.

Topic: RE: Is JetBlue Going With One Tail Design?
Username: jetblueguy22
Posted 2012-12-04 17:36:01 and read 2650 times.

Quoting JBLUA320 (Reply 10):
One tail fin we no longer have is the tartan pattern. It wasn't painted on many frames, mostly just the A320s with registrations in the 580s and 590s.

Complete bummer. For sure one of my favorites. I'm not a big fan of this blueberries scheme.
Good to see that they aren't getting rid of different tail designs. One of my favorite things to do when flying B6 is see what tail the aircraft has. Certainly better than seeing the usual boring DL tails   .
Blue

Topic: RE: Is JetBlue Going With One Tail Design?
Username: icebird757
Posted 2012-12-04 18:01:29 and read 2605 times.

The Tartan design was on a/c N585JB-N603JB


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