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Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: someone83
Posted 2012-12-15 00:03:50 and read 27104 times.

http://boeing-test-flights.blogspot....-aqz-b777-29mlr-iraqi-airways.html

Seems like Iraqi Airways has taken delivery for the white 777-200LR originally destined for Air Austral

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: scbriml
Posted 2012-12-15 00:20:43 and read 27063 times.

Indeed!

YI-AQZ 777-29M(LR) c/n 40993. Delivered on 5/12.

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: 817Dreamliiner
Posted 2012-12-15 00:20:55 and read 27040 times.

Interesting, glad to finally see it delivered. Was really sad seeing it sit there all this time.

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: migair54
Posted 2012-12-15 00:45:05 and read 26860 times.

What are they going to fly it???

Do they really need this kind of plane?? IMO I don´t think so....

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: raffik
Posted 2012-12-15 03:36:50 and read 26104 times.

I don't think they need this plane unless it is connected to a post made earlier last week about possible resumption of Iraq- America flights? Their longest routes at the moment are to Malaysia and India if I'm not mistaken?

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: ordwaw
Posted 2012-12-15 03:42:28 and read 26053 times.

Quoting scbriml (Reply 1):
possible resumption of Iraq- America flights?

BGW-IAD this could be interesting. However, I think this would require new government level agreements to be signed.

On the other hand, gas is cheap in Iraq so that they may not care if they fly inefficiently and utilize the 77L on routes that could be served by smaller planes.

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: migair54
Posted 2012-12-15 03:53:03 and read 25965 times.

Quoting ordwaw (Reply 5):
On the other hand, gas is cheap in Iraq so that they may not care if they fly inefficiently and utilize the 77L on routes that could be served by smaller planes.

That´s not a reason to hire an inefficient plane for the mission, the management should only care about the correct plane for mission, if they can do money with the B77L ad is not correct i´m sure they can do more with the correct plane.

Quoting raffik (Reply 4):
possible resumption of Iraq- America flights?

For that the plane could make sense, but for India and Malaysia they can do much better with a much cheaper to operate B767.

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: KC135TopBoom
Posted 2012-12-15 04:06:50 and read 25883 times.

BGW-IAD is only 5600 nm. Most WBs can easily do that mission more efficently, including the B-777-200ER. Maybe they need the extra payoad capability of the B-77L over the B-77E?

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: PEET7G
Posted 2012-12-15 04:11:30 and read 25867 times.

Quoting ordwaw (Reply 5):
On the other hand, gas is cheap in Iraq so that they may not care if they fly inefficiently and utilize the 77L on routes that could be served by smaller planes.

For the thousandth time, the 77L is not inefficient at all... from I think 2000nm and up it is in fact more efficient than flying a 772 around. It is just a too expensive asset for that purpose and if you have no need for the cargo or range it can fly around, then you are much better flying an A333.

However let's not forget that Iraq is not really a cold climate place to fly out from, and I do believe they will make use of the greater uplift as well as the extra cargo it can carry.

I have no doubt they could have had better choices, but maybe they also received a good deal on this example?

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: cedarjet
Posted 2012-12-15 04:24:29 and read 25751 times.

Quoting raffik (Reply 4):
possible resumption of Iraq- America flights?

Iraqi Airways never flew to the USA before so it's not a resumption. There might be one or two pics in the database of Iraqi 747s in the US but they were only cargo flights to pick up weapons sold by Rumsfeld and Cheney to Saddam in the 80s. Never ran scheduled or pax.

I doubt they'll start now - there are "contractors" in the "security" business going from the US to Baghdad but the natural market of tourists, family visits and non-military business is very small - can easily be handled by connecting through Austrian Airlines via VIE or Emirates via DXB. I would think the 777 would be more likely to show up on high density regional flights where there is real demand eg Dubai, Tehran; if there's long haul to be done, it's maybe Kuala Lumpur or London.

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: viasa
Posted 2012-12-15 04:27:59 and read 25743 times.

Iraqi Airways (or the government of Iraq) will buy everything that other airlines doesn't take up:

1x A320-200 (Air Berlin ntu)
2x A321-200 (Blue Wings ntu)
1x A330-200 (AirAsia X ntu)
1x B777-200LR (Air Austral ntu)

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: someone83
Posted 2012-12-15 04:55:20 and read 25523 times.

Its also the only -200LR delivered from Boeing this year

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: scbriml
Posted 2012-12-15 05:22:07 and read 25389 times.

Quoting PEET7G (Reply 8):
It is just a too expensive asset for that purpose

Given the niche nature of the 77L and this one sitting around without an owner, I would imaging that Iraqi Airways accepted an offer they couldn't refuse.

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: 777way
Posted 2012-12-15 05:43:39 and read 25252 times.

Is it in IA livery?

There a refernce link at wikipedia that suggests JFK was served with with passenher flights for a while, why would an article mention random weapons charters?

777 would work for Jeddah on a regular basis, currently JED is only served for hajj by IA.

A320 is gone now, it was a short term lease, BTW are all these aircraft bought or leased?

[Edited 2012-12-15 06:05:49]

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: KFlyer
Posted 2012-12-15 05:50:24 and read 25175 times.

I would think that they simply received an irresistible discount. Boeing obviously wanted someone to take it up and it was probably not built for EK's standard specs which is the only other airline that would possibly
be interested in it.

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: ordwaw
Posted 2012-12-15 07:42:06 and read 24759 times.

Quoting migair54 (Reply 6):
That´s not a reason to hire an inefficient plane for the mission,
Quoting PEET7G (Reply 8):
For the thousandth time, the 77L is not inefficient at all..

My point was that IA got the 77L not by design or choice but rather because ....

Quoting viasa (Reply 10):
Iraqi Airways (or the government of Iraq) will buy everything that other airlines doesn't take up:

I agree that 77L is a very efficient plane. However, if you use it to carry 100 people over 1000nm then you are using it very inefficiently. But if it was a matter of availability and price, then they can afford to use it in such an inefficient manner.

If you asked me, I hardly see any reason that they would need 77L. The only remote possibility I could agree with is

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 7):
Maybe they need the extra payoad capability of the B-77L

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: pdxswa
Posted 2012-12-15 08:35:03 and read 23592 times.

It is a shame it never entered revenue service with Air Austral. This is the only known photo of F-OLRB in the air.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Air-A...stral/Boeing-777-29M-LR/2132776/L/

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: goldenargosy
Posted 2012-12-15 09:15:42 and read 22732 times.

In the late 80's there was a huge Iraqi Airways ticket office located in the lobby of the McGraw-Hill Building on 6th Ave. in Manhattan. Every time I'd walk by it I'd look in and check it out. It was strange they'd have such a large office since they didn't have flights out of JFK. In the history section of the Iraqi Airways website it says they were granted approval to fly into JFK back in the 70's, but once they got an aircraft large enough to fly the route (a 747), the route was never activated. Once the office was closed it still remained there for a long, long time just kind of deteriorating as time took its toll. It then became creepy to look in the windows and see this big deserted office with everything in total decay. Creepy in a good way.

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: kanban
Posted 2012-12-15 09:29:55 and read 22410 times.

Two things
one, it could just be they wanted a big plane for national and airline prestige ..
two , it will become a state VIP a/c

interesting I can find no pictures of this plane as delivered..

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: laca773
Posted 2012-12-15 09:55:55 and read 21901 times.

Where will they fly this 77L too? JFK? IAD? FRA? LHR?

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: UnitedTristar
Posted 2012-12-15 10:01:30 and read 21812 times.

Quoting kanban (Reply 18):
two , it will become a state VIP a/c

This was my first thought when I saw it, great prestigious airplane for head of state!

-m

  

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: 777way
Posted 2012-12-15 10:06:28 and read 21671 times.

But they have a 744 playing that role already.

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: YULWinterSkies
Posted 2012-12-15 10:17:20 and read 21481 times.

Quoting scbriml (Reply 12):
Given the niche nature of the 77L and this one sitting around without an owner, I would imaging that Iraqi Airways accepted an offer they couldn't refuse.

The 77L is in no way a niche. It is a long haul aircraft capable of flying ultra-long-haul if necessary. It is more efficient than the 77E on most missions, and one can notice that most operators don't do ulh operations with them.

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: RubberJungle
Posted 2012-12-15 10:19:57 and read 21459 times.

Quoting kanban (Reply 18):
interesting I can find no pictures of this plane as delivered..

There's a photo of the aircraft at Baghdad here

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: RobK
Posted 2012-12-15 10:20:30 and read 21402 times.

Quoting kanban (Reply 18):
interesting I can find no pictures of this plane as delivered..

Definitely happened. I heard it on HF around 2330z on the edge of Edmonton FIR using reg as callsign, was on a polar routing. Sounded like a Boeing crew.

Likely to have left BFI still in all white colours as the BFI spotters wouldn't have missed this if it had been painted, that is for sure!

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: Stitch
Posted 2012-12-15 10:27:00 and read 22217 times.

I can think of a number of 777-200LR operators who probably would have considered a "cheap" 777-200LR, so it may very well be that Iraqi Airways was willing to pay more for the plane than anyone else, and therefore won the bird.

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: mbm3
Posted 2012-12-15 10:49:26 and read 21856 times.

Quoting KFlyer (Reply 14):
I would think that they simply received an irresistible discount. Boeing obviously wanted someone to take it up and it was probably not built for EK's standard specs which is the only other airline that would possibly
be interested in it.

Winner WInner Chicken Dinner! I think this was a win win deal for both parties. Boeing gets to dump an aircraft to an airline that can not really afford to be all that picky about configuration or specification and the airline gets a great deal on a long haul aircraft.

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: 777way
Posted 2012-12-15 10:52:55 and read 22421 times.

Exactly, PIA dropped out on buying three brand new Philippine Airlines 744 ntu beacuse Boeing was wanting a large amount to reconfigure the planes to their specs in 1999.

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: MH017
Posted 2012-12-15 11:23:19 and read 21627 times.

If it will be the same livery as the Bombardier in the background, it will be very dull on this 777...

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: LAXintl
Posted 2012-12-15 11:35:10 and read 21453 times.

Quoting goldenargosy (Reply 17):

In the late 80's there was a huge Iraqi Airways ticket office located in the lobby of the McGraw-Hill Building on 6th Ave. in Manhattan. Every time I'd walk by it I'd look in and check it out. It was strange they'd have such a large office since they didn't have flights out of JFK.

IA also had an office here in Los Angeles.

However its existence was for more nefarious reasons then selling tickets.

See during the Iran-Iraq war, the US funneled various assistance to Iraq from open economic aid, to sale of dual use technology, military intelligence, to even special ops training.

Being that much of the US defense sector was California based, the office turns out was a front to coordinate such activities. Additionally with the large freshly arrived Iranian diaspora in Los Angeles, the office served as a intelligence conduit to garner information from them and their families about things in Iran.

Later on it turns out the office was raided and closed by the authorities when it was also discovered some employees were caught with weapons and in involved in some bizarre plot.

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: 777way
Posted 2012-12-15 11:41:51 and read 21280 times.

The CRJ in the background seems to have an ANA stlye livery and not the Bombardier house design that was dumped on IA.

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: FlyAA757
Posted 2012-12-15 12:21:52 and read 20513 times.

Anyone have other shots of that cr9???

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: 777way
Posted 2012-12-15 12:45:53 and read 20070 times.

put it in paint and zoom, does not seem to be an IA aircraft.

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: aeroblogger
Posted 2012-12-15 13:18:29 and read 19526 times.

Maybe it was part of the 787 delay compensation. After all, the 787 is hopelessly delayed, and this aircraft wasn't going anywhere...

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: USAF336TFS
Posted 2012-12-15 13:51:24 and read 18959 times.

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 33):
After all, the 787 is hopelessly delayed,

Isn't that a bit of a stretch, given deliveries are accruing, even with the most of the program development delays already behind Boeing?



Quoting 777way (Reply 32):
put it in paint and zoom, does not seem to be an IA aircraft.

I sure hope they at least consider a livery change. The Triple Seven is a beauty, even with the all white paint, and Iraqi's old livery wasn't attractive, IMHO. Also it reminds us of the despot Saddam days, which I think most would like to forget.



[Edited 2012-12-15 14:02:56]

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: Stitch
Posted 2012-12-15 14:11:18 and read 18730 times.

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 33):
Maybe it was part of the 787 delay compensation.

According to Wikipedia, their first 787 is not due until 2019, so a bit early to be compensating them, IMO.  

Evidently IA did consider for a time swapping the 787s for 777s, so perhaps the A330-300 and 777-200LR were purchased due to actual need and not just because Airbus and Boeing were desperate to off-load some white tails.

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: SXDFC
Posted 2012-12-15 14:15:30 and read 18534 times.

Quoting goldenargosy (Reply 17):
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 29):

Any pictures of these offices? Also does it still exist in NYC?

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: gigneil
Posted 2012-12-15 14:29:20 and read 18349 times.

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 7):

BGW-IAD is only 5600 nm. Most WBs can easily do that mission more efficently, including the B-777-200ER. Maybe they need the extra payoad capability of the B-77L over the B-77E?


Across a 5600nm stage, a 777-200LR is nearly 4% more efficient than a 777-200ER

NS

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: fridgmus
Posted 2012-12-15 14:42:57 and read 18173 times.

I gotta ask, after spending over six years in Iraq as a contractor and going through BGW, are there ANY knowledgeable personnel running IA?

Every time we went through there, it was always a bit of a cluster ****.

I'm glad IA scored a 77L as it's my favorite aircraft and would love to see it in a new, updated IA livery. Best of luck to IA.

Thanks,

F

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: 777way
Posted 2012-12-15 15:11:20 and read 17674 times.

Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 34):
Also it reminds us of the despot Saddam days, which I think most would like to forget.

hunh?

Quoting fridgmus (Reply 38):

Livery was tweaked, it wears lighter shade of green and the bare metal or grey belly and engines now painted white., a CRJ is sporting this look since several months, as is the single 732 but this is minus the wavy top.

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: MHTripple7
Posted 2012-12-15 15:26:38 and read 17440 times.

So will IA paint this aircraft into their current livery anytime soon? Those ex-AirTran 73Gs IA is flying around have yet to be repainted!

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: KC135TopBoom
Posted 2012-12-15 15:40:10 and read 17249 times.

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 9):
Iraqi Airways never flew to the USA before so it's not a resumption.

They flew to JFK in the '70s & '80s. In the mid 2000, the flew 3 X weeeky to IAD using a B-767-200ER, a former AC airplane, N526PH as 9L-LFF.

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: 777way
Posted 2012-12-15 15:49:51 and read 17078 times.

I thought the 762 was only for govt. use, doubt those were regular passenger flights to IAD.

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: KC135TopBoom
Posted 2012-12-15 17:12:46 and read 16107 times.

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 33):
Maybe it was part of the 787 delay compensation. After all, the 787 is hopelessly delayed, and this aircraft wasn't going anywhere...
Quoting Stitch (Reply 35):
According to Wikipedia, their first 787 is not due until 2019, so a bit early to be compensating them, IMO.

IA has never firmed up their B-787 order, it is only a LOI, at best at this point.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Boeing_787_orders_and_deliveries

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: Stitch
Posted 2012-12-15 17:17:26 and read 16016 times.

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 43):
IA has never firmed up their B-787 order, it is only a LOI, at best at this point.

The 787 and 737 orders are listed on Boeing's O&D page and the Wikipedia page under the Republic of Iraq.

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: KarelXWB
Posted 2012-12-16 04:36:00 and read 12197 times.

Quoting pdxswa (Reply 16):
It is a shame it never entered revenue service with Air Austral. This is the only known photo of F-OLRB in the air.

You can find more pictures on Flickr.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sabian404/6876069710/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sabian404/7416657818/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/planephotoman/6877050086/

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: 817Dreamliiner
Posted 2012-12-16 04:49:17 and read 12094 times.

Quoting PEET7G (Reply 8):
For the thousandth time, the 77L is not inefficient at all... from I think 2000nm and up it is in fact more efficient than flying a 772 around.
Quoting gigneil (Reply 37):
Across a 5600nm stage, a 777-200LR is nearly 4% more efficient than a 777-200ER

     

It seems we forget this sometimes. It has also been mentioned previously (if I remember correctly) that if 77L was offered earlier we would have seen more orders and less for the ER version.

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: Darksnowynight
Posted 2012-12-16 06:11:08 and read 11823 times.

Quoting goldenargosy (Reply 17):
Creepy in a good way.

Ok, that's a new one.

Quoting MH017 (Reply 28):


If it will be the same livery as the Bombardier in the background, it will be very dull on this 777..

I agree. The green wave livery is actually one of the best there is/was in the world. It would be great to see that on a 77L.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 29):

IA also had an office here in Los Angeles.

No kidding... Interesting post. Was it downtown?

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: LAXintl
Posted 2012-12-16 10:30:45 and read 11439 times.

Quoting Darksnowynight (Reply 48):
No kidding... Interesting post. Was it downtown?

No it was on Sunset Blvd - close to little Armenia.

If you want another fun one - Iran Air had a LA office also -- abandoned for a long time - street side in Beverly Hills on Wilshire.

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: USAF336TFS
Posted 2012-12-16 10:52:20 and read 11358 times.

Quoting 777way (Reply 39):
Also it reminds us of the despot Saddam days, which I think most would like to forget.

hunh?

What part of that wasn't clear?

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: Viscount724
Posted 2012-12-16 13:26:25 and read 10967 times.

Quoting 777way (Reply 13):
There a refernce link at wikipedia that suggests JFK was served with with passenher flights for a while

I believe that is not correct. I can't recall any US-Iraq direct service since the 1960s when Pan Am served it about once a week as one of the many stops on their around-the-world route. TWA also served Basra as an intermediate stop, also once a week, on their route to India and beyond in the 1950s.

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: EK413
Posted 2012-12-16 17:29:19 and read 10566 times.

Quoting Stitch (Reply 25):

I can think of a number of 777-200LR operators who probably would have considered a "cheap" 777-200LR, so it may very well be that Iraqi Airways was willing to pay more for the plane than anyone else, and therefore won the bird.

I wonder if IA will consider buying the AI B77L aircraft...

Here's more information regarding the B738 & B787 order...

Boeing Completes Sale of first 777 airplane to Republic of Iraq - Press Release
15 December 2012
777-200LR to support launch long-haul routes
Order book includes Next-Generation 737-800s and 787 Dreamliners

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=220697&page=3

EK413

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: Stitch
Posted 2012-12-16 17:38:02 and read 10485 times.

Quoting EK413 (Reply 51):
I wonder if IA will consider buying the AI B77L aircraft...

I'm guessing no, since AI has been trying to sell them for some time. AI appears to want, if not above market value, close enough to market value that the cost of removing the AI cabin and installing a new one pushes the cost above market value.

I have no doubt Iraqi Airways received a good price, but I don't believe Boeing had to "make them an offer they couldn't refuse" - which I personally interpret as saying Boeing was willing to sell the plane for production cost (or even less). After all, Boeing has sat on white-tails for years (the last two 747-400 freighters, for example) before shifting them, so they appear to be willing to wait for what they consider a reasonable offer.

Topic: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: 777way
Posted 2012-12-16 19:30:06 and read 10279 times.

Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 49):

I understood the whole thing, ridiculous statement is what I meant.

Topic: RE: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: USAF336TFS
Posted 2012-12-17 08:31:35 and read 9608 times.

Quoting 777way (Reply 53):

I understood the whole thing, ridiculous statement is what I meant.

That's your opinion. Which is fine. Mine is that the old livery would remind many of the old regime, which I doubt the new Iraqi government is in any hurry to be reminded of. New Iraqi Airlines, new livery.

Topic: RE: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: 777way
Posted 2012-12-17 11:13:16 and read 9266 times.

FYI thye have reinstated the Saddam era livery which was being replaced by Bombardier house colour style one, infact only one CRJ recieved the rejected livery.

Topic: RE: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: DTWPurserBoy
Posted 2012-12-17 13:18:04 and read 8994 times.

Whatever happened to the 747SP VIP aircraft painted in Iraq Airways colors that was parked in north Africa for so many years? I would imagine that it is no longer flyable and would be too expensive to bring it current. Sad--as I recall it only had a few thousand hours on the airframe.

Topic: RE: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: TC957
Posted 2012-12-18 01:00:06 and read 8616 times.

It's still abandoned at TOE in Tunisia along with an ex-IA 742 ( YI-AGP I think ), I haven't seen any reports saying it's been broken up. Must be nigh on 30 years there now.
Both in an all-white scheme.

Topic: RE: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: geedo
Posted 2012-12-18 12:48:22 and read 8132 times.

Quoting pdxswa (Reply 16):
It is a shame it never entered revenue service with Air Austral. This is the only known photo of F-OLRB in the air.
Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 45):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sabian404/6876069710/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sabian404/7416657818/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/planeph...0086/

A few PDX photographers were able to capture this aircraft in flight. No monopoly for you dude. ^^^
http://www.flickr.com/photos/n324f/7377485304/

Topic: RE: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: incitatus
Posted 2012-12-18 13:36:56 and read 7954 times.

Quoting gigneil (Reply 37):
Across a 5600nm stage, a 777-200LR is nearly 4% more efficient than a 777-200ER

Not only that, the 77L taking off from BGW with maximum payload and facing headwinds might indeed struggle to reach IAD.

Topic: RE: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: Stitch
Posted 2012-12-18 13:49:36 and read 7968 times.

Quoting incitatus (Reply 59):
Not only that, the 77L taking off from BGW with maximum payload and facing headwinds might indeed struggle to reach IAD.

At MZFW a 777-200LR can fly 2000nm farther than BGW-IAD, so that trip won't be a problem unless they were flying against a hurricane the entire way.  

Topic: RE: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: Viscount724
Posted 2012-12-18 13:52:37 and read 7934 times.

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 56):
Whatever happened to the 747SP VIP aircraft painted in Iraq Airways colors that was parked in north Africa for so many years? I would imagine that it is no longer flyable and would be too expensive to bring it current. Sad--as I recall it only had a few thousand hours on the airframe.
Quoting TC957 (Reply 57):
It's still abandoned at TOE in Tunisia along with an ex-IA 742 ( YI-AGP I think ), I haven't seen any reports saying it's been broken up. Must be nigh on 30 years there now.
Both in an all-white scheme.

There are a couple of photos in the database, and many others on other sites. The two aircraft are also visible on Google Maps.
http://www.google.com/maps?q=Tozeur+...,+Tozeur,+Tunisia&t=h&z=18

Topic: RE: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: eta unknown
Posted 2012-12-18 14:58:28 and read 7816 times.

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 41):
They flew to JFK in the '70s & '80s

Afraid that's absolutely incorrect. Yes, there was a huge NYC office in the McGraw Hill Building (I worked in the same building), but there were never any flights. JFK had IR, KU, RJ, SV flights then and also a very brief ME service.

Topic: RE: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: yoyo444104
Posted 2012-12-18 15:32:18 and read 7715 times.

The Iraqi Airways made contract with Boeing few years ago to buy 30 new aircraft s, but the delay was because the Kuwait airline sue Iraqi Airways because of 1991 Kuwait invasion. Now, finally the problem between Iraq and Kuwait has been solved recently, so they will get the 30 airplane sequentially.

Topic: RE: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: incitatus
Posted 2012-12-19 06:31:49 and read 7192 times.

Quoting incitatus (Reply 59):
Not only that, the 77L taking off from BGW with maximum payload and facing headwinds might indeed struggle to reach IAD.

Yes, my bad - looked up 77W instead of 77L.

Topic: RE: Iraqi Airways Takes Delivery Of One 777-200LR
Username: DTWPurserBoy
Posted 2012-12-26 13:34:25 and read 6281 times.

I wounder if those two aircraft in Tunisia are ever run up? It looks like the 742 is missing the #3 engine. Both appear to have been painted white. But if they have been sitting there unprotected and not properly preserved since 1991--21 years is a long time. They would only be good for scrap metal. Shame that no one took better care of them. I would imagine that the interiors are a disaster and sand has probably infiltrated everywhere. I hate to see good airplanes mistreated.


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