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Topic: GoJet Plane Off Taxiway In ALB
Username: n797mx
Posted 2012-12-29 21:25:22 and read 9742 times.

Just saw that GoJet 3645 slipped off the taxiway in ALB. The plane was under the United Express name. Ship 165, a CRJ-700 according to UA's site.

http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/12...nited-jet-slips-off-runway-in.html

Topic: RE: GoJet Plane Off Taxiway In ALB
Username: UA787DEN
Posted 2012-12-29 21:27:07 and read 9736 times.

Its been an interesting day, few days, week, and year for planes having trouble staying on the massive slabs of pavement with all the yellow and white lines and lights.

Topic: RE: GoJet Plane Off Taxiway In ALB
Username: jetblueguy22
Posted 2012-12-29 21:29:04 and read 9724 times.

Quoting UA787DEN (Reply 1):

Considering the weather the northeast has been getting today I would have to say this event is not unexpected. I'm surprised the flight even left. The roads here in NW Connecticut are horrendous right now.
Blue

Topic: RE: GoJet Plane Off Taxiway In ALB
Username: UA787DEN
Posted 2012-12-29 21:34:13 and read 9684 times.

Oh I'm not surprised. Just seems like its been an unusually interesting week. I wonder if they were playing drag racers like the WN pilots that went of the Taxiway in DEN? :p

Topic: RE: GoJet Plane Off Taxiway In ALB
Username: bexf27
Posted 2012-12-29 21:38:23 and read 9660 times.

It has been bad here in New Hampshire too. Maybe the pilot should have stayed at the airport instead of going on the roads from the airport. Then the pax and crew would not have been bused back to the airport.      

Topic: RE: GoJet Plane Off Taxiway In ALB
Username: mesaflyguy
Posted 2012-12-29 22:09:08 and read 9554 times.

The northeast has been getting slammed on and off with bad weather these last few weeks. I'm truly not surprised and hope that the aircraft didn't sustain too much damage, which, if it just hit a snowbank, I can't imagine it did. Little chance of FOD in theengines, which is one of the nice things about RJs.

Topic: RE: GoJet Plane Off Taxiway In ALB
Username: Jetfixr757
Posted 2012-12-29 22:14:27 and read 9531 times.

So it's not just the WN guys!!
Jet

Topic: RE: GoJet Plane Off Taxiway In ALB
Username: UA787DEN
Posted 2012-12-29 22:14:58 and read 9531 times.

The article says 66 pax. That is one full CR7. IIRC, that is the capacity of the Gojet UX CR7s. Maybe the article put in the Max capacity to help non a-nutters get a feel for the aircraft size.

Topic: RE: GoJet Plane Off Taxiway In ALB
Username: Jerseyguy
Posted 2012-12-29 23:33:13 and read 9364 times.

UA787,
It could be a full flight with people flying home from their Xmas trips plus people from earlier canceled flights. Also before I forget must have been a former WN pilot because as you know they taxi too fast and are dangerous
 

Topic: RE: GoJet Plane Off Taxiway In ALB
Username: PWMRamper
Posted 2012-12-30 02:45:19 and read 9140 times.

Ah N165GJ. Such fond memories of working that aircraft in PWM. T'was involved in a lot of firsts for me. First aircraft ever worked as a ramper, first pushback, etc.

Topic: RE: GoJet Plane Off Taxiway In ALB
Username: ONT2CGI
Posted 2012-12-30 03:51:44 and read 9038 times.

Well, The ALB paper added four more passengers:
http://www.timesunion.com/local/arti...ets-caught-in-snow-and-4154638.php
I was bit surpized that it was operarting yesterday, too.

Topic: RE: GoJet Plane Off Taxiway In ALB
Username: atrude777
Posted 2012-12-30 05:56:19 and read 8457 times.

This must be fake..only WN Planes go off the runway or taxiways don't you know?

In my experience G7 Pilots taxi fast a lot so it was bound to happen, we need to investigate what they were doing the night before that would cause them to do this!

*Sarcasm noted, actually said by a.net members about WN, sounds ridiculous now doesn't it?*

In all seriousness, glad everyone seems to be ok, looks like a minor slip which happens to EVERY AIRLINE and plane and pilots.

Quoting Reply 10):
Well, The ALB paper added four more passengers:

Technically, it's still 66 passengers, plus the 4 crew members which would equal 70. 66 Paxs, 2 Pilots and 2 F/A's.

The 66 passengers and four crew members were sent back to the airport by bus.

Source: http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/12...s-off-runway-in.html#storylink=cpy

Alex

Topic: RE: GoJet Plane Off Taxiway In ALB
Username: UA787DEN
Posted 2012-12-30 07:18:36 and read 7694 times.

Pfft. WN coming and taking a GoJet CR7, adding 4 seats, and going right off the taxiway. Maybe bussing pax is a new Low Cost strategy? WN: I'm watching you.

So it sounds like it was a full flight, most likely due to Christmas. Thankfully, the "crash" doesn't sound bad.

Topic: RE: GoJet Plane Off Taxiway In ALB
Username: kstateinALB
Posted 2012-12-30 10:16:50 and read 6011 times.

Eh, the weather in ALB was average yesterday due to the snowstorm. Wasn't as bad as Wednesday night/Thursday when I flew in, which I was lucky to do so. It was pretty slick though, so not surprised by this.

Topic: RE: GoJet Plane Off Taxiway In ALB
Username: JBirdAV8r
Posted 2012-12-30 11:05:11 and read 5594 times.

Quoting UA787DEN (Reply 1):
Its been an interesting day, few days, week, and year for planes having trouble staying on the massive slabs of pavement with all the yellow and white lines and lights.

Hoping that's sarcasm. Taxiing an aircraft in wintry conditions that's not designed to "drive" well on the ground, which has tires that aren't designed for maximum grip at taxi speeds, on surfaces that are either untreated or not treated in the "conventional" sense (not to mention not designed like roads), can be like trying to walk across a sheet of ice in tennis shoes. Not fun.

Topic: RE: GoJet Plane Off Taxiway In ALB
Username: Goldenshield
Posted 2012-12-30 11:16:07 and read 5481 times.

Quoting Jerseyguy (Reply 8):
Also before I forget must have been a former WN pilot because as you know they taxi too fast and are dangerous
Quoting atrude777 (Reply 11):
This must be fake..only WN Planes go off the runway or taxiways don't you know?

No, that's not the case. They're pilots who just so happen to work for a regional airline, so they're inherently unexperienced and unsafe.  banghead 

[Edited 2012-12-30 11:16:40]

Topic: RE: GoJet Plane Off Taxiway In ALB
Username: USAirALB
Posted 2012-12-30 19:40:39 and read 2846 times.

Not surprising. Relatives said they got another 3 inches over the weekend, in addition to the foot or so last week. This whole thing could have gone much worse. Runway 1/19(which I'm assuming this flight was using) goes right up to major, heavily travelled roads, Troy Schenectady Road to the north, and Albany Shaker Road to the south.

Topic: RE: GoJet Plane Off Taxiway In ALB
Username: UA787DEN
Posted 2012-12-30 20:00:55 and read 2738 times.

Nah...It was a 70 seat CR7 operated by inherently unsafe and inexperienced pilots trained by the WN guys from the taxiway adventure in DEN or ISP.  

Have there been any problems with the road being right next to 1/19?

Topic: RE: GoJet Plane Off Taxiway In ALB
Username: USAirALB
Posted 2012-12-30 22:18:40 and read 2335 times.

Quoting UA787DEN (Reply 17):
Have there been any problems with the road being right next to 1/19?

They are two different separate roads at each end of the runway. Years ago (in the 50s), an AA plane crashed onto Troy-Schenectady Road at the north end of 1/19. That's the only incident I can think of.

A couple of years ago, they extended 1/19 even closer to Troy-Schenectady Road by about 1300 ft or so. They added an EMAS at this time as well.

Topic: RE: GoJet Plane Off Taxiway In ALB
Username: GoBoeing
Posted 2012-12-30 22:33:24 and read 2301 times.

Quoting UA787DEN (Reply 1):
Its been an interesting day, few days, week, and year for planes having trouble staying on the massive slabs of pavement with all the yellow and white lines and lights.

If you could ditch the condescending, arrogant attitude, I'd love to have you on the jumpseat sometime. Two weeks ago for instance, turning off of runway 22 at LGA onto the parallel. First landing in five weeks, wind 270/25G35, night, driving rain, traffic close behind, and my side view window all scratched up with barely any lighting to my left in the dark with hangar lights and a nearby pickup truck waiting for us to move, adding just a bit more glare that we didn't need.

You have a lot to learn!

Topic: RE: GoJet Plane Off Taxiway In ALB
Username: mesaflyguy
Posted 2012-12-30 23:15:16 and read 2258 times.

I really don't want to get too far involved in the "pilots should know how to keep their planes on the taxiway" argument, but I do feel this needs to be said:

Never criticize ir soeculate before you've been incthe position yourself. I am planning on training to be a pilot (when I go to college in a few years   ) so I can't wait to see what I learn. Many things seem so much simpler than they are, and I am waiting to see what I experience when (if) I am sitting up front.

As GoBoeing said, this stuff isn't as simple and easy as it seems from the outside. Plus, this GoJet (I'm not even getting into the WN argument....) was in bad weather. Had this been on a sunny day, it PROBABLY wouldn't have happened.

I just suggest we stay on topic and try not to demean or label people for things that are just not true.

Topic: RE: GoJet Plane Off Taxiway In ALB
Username: DashTrash
Posted 2012-12-30 23:23:19 and read 2244 times.

Quoting GoBoeing (Reply 19):

I always found landing at LGA in the wintertime was more of an act of self preservation than anything else.

BTW. Nothing like setting the parking brake and sliding UP a slight grade at idle thrust. Ground ups suck in snow and ice.


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