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Topic: Ukraine Aviation Thread #1
Username: irshava
Posted 2012-12-28 16:56:35 and read 2613 times.

Hello A.netters!

Happy Holidays and a Happy upcoming New Year!

I decided to start this thread because there have been a few exciting things going on in Ukrainian aviation this month.

Reports have been going around that Aerosvit is soon to kick the bucket with the airline struggling to pay back airport fees and many of its aircraft parked at the apron of Kyiv Borispol International Airport. The airline - had a conflict with Moscow Sheremetyevo Airport which led to Rosaviatsia (Russian Aviation Administration) banning Aerosvit aircraft from entering Russian airspace. Additionally, Aerosvit has had issues with domestic international airport - Lviv. Borispil Airport (its hub) also cancelled five of its flights because of unpaid fees.

Link - http://www.kyivpost.com/content/busi...vits-flights-to-russia-317457.html

Link - http://www.kyivpost.com/content/busi...ort-after-next-payment-317569.html

Link - http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukra...icing-aerosvit-flights-317183.html

Link - http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukra...ights-because-of-debts-317241.html

Additionally - Wizzair has commenced thrice-weekly services to Kyiv Zhulyany airport from Budapest
Link - http://www.anna.aero/2012/12/19/wizz...nches-kiev-zhulyany-from-budapest/

UIA - Ukraine International Airlines will operate its two B777-200LRs to Asia and North America although its primary focus will be Asia with destinations including Bangkok and Beijing. The aircraft will be new-built aircraft configured with 50 Business Class Seats and 350 Economy seats. The airline has also been sold to a company based in Cyprus earlier this month by Austrian Airlines.

Link - http://centreforaviation.com/analysi...013-with-bangkok-and-beijing-76298
Link - http://www.destinasian.com/airline-n...nal-airlines-in-for-the-long-haul/
Link - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_International_Airlines
Link - http://www.kyivpost.com/content/busi...sold-to-cyprus-company-318038.html

Ukrainian Air Force commended for its efforts in peace-keeping missions in Africa.
Link - http://allafrica.com/stories/201212111088.html

Iran and Ukraine to jointly produce An-148s - primarily for Iran's passenger aircraft demand.
Link - http://www.nzweek.com/business/iran-...uce-passenger-planes-report-31518/

Not too many Ukrainians in this forum but - thats the news this month!

Once again, Happy Holidays and Happy upcoming New Year!

Regards,
Max

Topic: RE: Ukraine Aviation Thread #1
Username: Slawko
Posted 2012-12-28 17:33:00 and read 2580 times.

I'm pretty sure UIA will wait out to see what the Aerosvit family does before deciding on 777's or 330's. If Kolomoijski's airlines tank then it will be a no-brainer and they will need to move quick to get some widebody lift. I'm curious who the cyprus company actually belongs to...first step in a pan-Ukrainian merger of airlines perhaps?

Topic: RE: Ukraine Aviation Thread #1
Username: irshava
Posted 2012-12-28 18:38:21 and read 2550 times.

Quoting Slawko (Reply 1):
does before deciding on 777's

It seems as if the 777s have already been ordered and someone on the forum mentioned that Aerosvit is closing its offices around the world.

Topic: RE: Ukraine Aviation Thread #1
Username: MHG
Posted 2012-12-29 00:28:10 and read 2444 times.

First of all thanks for opening this thread !
Although variety of events is not as diverse as in Russia it´s worth reporting.

These actual developments make me wonder what will be the impact if VV folds.
I don´t expect PS to take up VV´s short-haul routes (long-haul routes are out of question anyway).

Nevertheless I hope to hear more from local airlines/airports/airliners usually not covered in other - non country specific - threads.

MHG (Germany)

Topic: RE: Ukraine Aviation Thread #1
Username: irshava
Posted 2012-12-29 07:29:54 and read 2269 times.

Quoting MHG (Reply 3):
First of all thanks for opening this thread !
Although variety of events is not as diverse as in Russia it´s worth reporting.

Atleast someone is interested! :P

Quoting MHG (Reply 3):
I don´t expect PS to take up VV´s short-haul routes

I just hope someone maintains the non-stop JFK - KBP route and that PS get those 77Ls!

- Max

Topic: RE: Ukraine Aviation Thread #1
Username: uzzzer
Posted 2012-12-29 11:34:15 and read 2152 times.

PS is hiring staff from VV. There are multiple reports that PS will assume VV short-haul network in 2013. That can be already seen through a code-share expansion.

However, the question remains how "friendly" the takeover is. The rumors in the media are that both PS and VV now have the same owner, so possible VV collapse would be a controlled merger.

Topic: RE: Ukraine Aviation Thread #1
Username: MHG
Posted 2012-12-29 13:20:28 and read 2087 times.

Quoting irshava (Reply 4):
I just hope someone maintains the non-stop JFK - KBP route and that PS get those 77Ls!

Well, if not then maybe an airline like Uzbekistan might be able to step in similar to the TAS-RIX-JFK routing.
HY seems to be quite happy with that routing ...

Remains the question of traffic rights. If no local ukrainian airline is to serve the U.S. then the ukrainian government might be willing to make concessions.


Btw.: I have a long standing question

On oct 7th 2005 I flew IEV-LWO with Baltika (LET-410).
Until now I´m not able to source any infos about this airline.
I know there was a cargo airline using the name Baltika but I´m not sure if my flight was operated by that airline.
When checking details of the cargo carrier there is never mentioning of a LET-410 in their fleet at any given time.
I flew on UR-VTV which had a very nice dark blue colour scheme !

Have I been just lucky and it was a short lived attempt to step into the pasenger market by the cargo carrier ?

Topic: RE: Ukraine Aviation Thread #1
Username: Slawko
Posted 2012-12-29 14:35:45 and read 2054 times.

Unless there is a lease agreement with someone, I have not seen any new orders come up on the boeing site. Nor has there been an "official" press release on UIA's website regarding the 777's so I don't think it is so firm. As I mentioned, likely all on hold if they are in fact merging VV and PS behind the scenese...which is a shame. That will drive what little domestic competition there is in the market right down the toilet. I guess it's a free market only if you own the regulator.

Topic: RE: Ukraine Aviation Thread #1
Username: Slawko
Posted 2013-01-07 18:15:23 and read 1799 times.

So is this the end of aerosvit?

Topic: RE: Ukraine Aviation Thread #1
Username: redzeppelin
Posted 2013-01-07 19:34:34 and read 1776 times.

Quoting irshava (Reply 4):
I just hope someone maintains the non-stop JFK - KBP route

Any chance that DL might restart the route? Even seasonal? I can't believe that they couldn't make it work, especially without any competition. But they seem content to serve Kiev via the JV hubs at AMS and CDG lately... It would be nice to see UA try EWR-KBP with a 767, but I don't see them taking that chance any time soon.


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