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Topic: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: KC135TopBoom
Posted 2013-01-10 13:45:19 and read 11977 times.

According to AW&ST, there are only 36 DC-8s still flying throughout the world. There are only 6 still flying in the US, and of those, only 2 are of the Super-70 series (CFM-56 engines), there remaining 4 still have JT-3D engines. The 4 DC-8s that are flown by ATI are to retire early this year and will be replaced by B-757s.

http://www.aviationweek.com/Blogs.as...ee25ac-d410-4a4d-a2c7-fb26e09525b7

The DC-8 has been flying for 54 years, that must be a record, or close to a record. Are there still a few B-707s flying commerical flights in Iran? If so, the B-707 would hold the record, since it has been flying for 55 years.

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: RussianJet
Posted 2013-01-10 13:49:30 and read 11953 times.

Given that it's 2013, I consider that to be really quite a lot!

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: HermansCVR580
Posted 2013-01-10 13:57:01 and read 11876 times.

Sad to see these beauties days coming to an end. I hope one or two are saved from the cutters torch. Glad I got to spend 10 years working on them in their twilight years hauling cargo.

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: KC135TopBoom
Posted 2013-01-10 14:27:16 and read 11723 times.

As I said, AW&ST says there are 36 DC-8s still flying. But Wiki says there are only 14 that are still flying.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC-8#Operators

Which is correct?

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: RussianJet
Posted 2013-01-10 14:32:14 and read 11693 times.

Does anyone know how many are in private hands as personal or VIP transport? I know I saw one at STN a few years back, is it likely to be still around and are there any others?

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: BasilFawlty
Posted 2013-01-10 14:43:59 and read 11638 times.

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Thread starter):
Are there still a few B-707s flying commerical flights in Iran?

Yes, still going strong with Saha Air.

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: United727
Posted 2013-01-10 14:52:57 and read 11595 times.

How do you book with Saha Air? I've tried but seems difficult as an US Citizen.

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: SpaceshipDC10
Posted 2013-01-10 14:57:03 and read 11570 times.

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 3):
As I said, AW&ST says there are 36 DC-8s still flying. But Wiki says there are only 14 that are still flying.

Airlinerlist latest edition shows 27, including VIP.

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: aloges
Posted 2013-01-10 15:00:42 and read 11547 times.

Quoting BasilFawlty (Reply 5):
Yes, still going strong with Saha Air.

Interesting... I hadn't thought it would be this easy to find departure and arrival information for THR. The 707 is scheduled to fly to Mashhad, which is near the borders with Turkmenistan and Afghanistan.

I'm just wondering how hard it would have been to find this sort of info back when those 707s were built.

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: aloges
Posted 2013-01-10 15:06:12 and read 11504 times.

Quoting United727 (Reply 6):
How do you book with Saha Air? I've tried but seems difficult as an US Citizen.

I suppose that your best bet is walking up to the counter at THR and asking if the old lady is actually flying on that day.   And just to tease you, you can even see one of them on Google Maps.

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: BasilFawlty
Posted 2013-01-10 15:17:18 and read 11447 times.

Quoting United727 (Reply 6):
How do you book with Saha Air? I've tried but seems difficult as an US Citizen.

You can buy tickets at travel agencies in Iran and at the airport ticket desk, as far as I know.

Quoting aloges (Reply 8):
I'm just wondering how hard it would have been to find this sort of info back when those 707s were built.

Not so hard.  

Saha's current fleet:
EP-SHP: first flight 03Dec74, delivery 16Dec74 (to Iran Air Force)
EP-SHU: first flight 18Aug76, delivery 31Aug76 (to Iran Air Force)
EP-SHV: first flight 09Jun76, delivery 18Jun76 (to Iran Air Force)

They operated other frames as well, some are stored, some are w/o, some went back to the Air Force, etc...

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: KC135TopBoom
Posted 2013-01-10 16:07:50 and read 11269 times.

Looking at THR on Google Earth, there are at least 12 B-707s there, 11 with all four engines and one with two engines (#1 and #4), but it looks like it is in maintenance. I assume all of these belong to the IIAF.

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: ADent
Posted 2013-01-10 16:24:40 and read 11188 times.

NASA still has their DC-8-72 going. They are planned to fly until 2016 on its current mission for ozone mapping over the poles.

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: AM744
Posted 2013-01-10 16:38:35 and read 11119 times.

Wow. Until one or two months ago I used to see a DHL (don't know who the actual operator was) DC-8 with CFM engines on final approach to MEX every morning at 8:00AM. I was surprised to see a 767 a few days ago. Made me somewhat sad.

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: MEA-707
Posted 2013-01-10 16:50:32 and read 11066 times.

Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 7):
But Wiki says there are only 14 that are still flying.

Airlinerlist latest edition shows 27, including VIP.

the right number might be something between 14 and 27... I am from Airlinerlist and I admit 27 might be a bit optimistic as I didn't receive the confirmed wfu dates for the ATI fleet yet, so these seem active on the last version while they probably aren't by now.

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: NASCARAirforce
Posted 2013-01-10 17:05:45 and read 10998 times.

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Thread starter):
The DC-8 has been flying for 54 years, that must be a record, or close to a record. Are there still a few B-707s flying commerical flights in Iran? If so, the B-707 would hold the record, since it has been flying for 55 years.

What kind of record? there are a ton of DC-3s still flying revenue flights around the world. If you are asking about 707s still flying and the like - just look at your name - there are a ton of KC-135s still flying (true they are the original Boeing 717), but there are also the various E-3s, E-6s, EC-135s etc also.

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: american 767
Posted 2013-01-10 17:28:38 and read 10900 times.

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 15):
If you are asking about 707s still flying and the like - just look at your name

I think he means civilian 707s. KC135s, E3As, and all of its variants are military 707s. If one was asking this question for the DC-10, I would answer: "The Air Force still flies KC-10s, but as far as civilian DC-10s are concerned most airworthy DC-10s still flying are flying with Fed-Ex".

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: n471wn
Posted 2013-01-10 17:32:49 and read 10879 times.

I trust Aero Transport Data Base in such matters and they say 17.....

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: doulasc
Posted 2013-01-10 17:36:34 and read 10850 times.

Out of the 36 DC-8s still active how many are ex Emery Worldwide planes.

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: macsog6
Posted 2013-01-10 17:39:01 and read 10842 times.

Quoting american 767 (Reply 16):
Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 15):If you are asking about 707s still flying and the like - just look at your name
I think he means civilian 707s. KC135s, E3As, and all of its variants are military 707s. If one was asking this question for the DC-10, I would answer: "The Air Force still flies KC-10s, but as far as civilian DC-10s are concerned most airworthy DC-10s still flying are flying with Fed-Ex".

The C-137 is actually the same airframe as the 707. The C-135 and it's variations are the slab-sided (5 across instead of 6 across) as opposed to the rounded 707/C-137 fuselage.

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: Allee
Posted 2013-01-10 21:15:10 and read 10481 times.

Quoting AM744 (Reply 13):

Astar stopped flying the DC87s at the beginning of June. AeroUnion A300s took over CVG-MEX until October when ABX 76Fs were available.

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: Loran
Posted 2013-01-10 23:01:57 and read 10292 times.

This list is quite accurate with recent updates:

http://www.aviation-friends-cologne.de/tag/DC8.html

It lists 22 active airframes.

Regards,
Loran

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: yyz717
Posted 2013-01-11 08:53:58 and read 7711 times.

Quoting n471wn (Reply 17):
I trust Aero Transport Data Base in such matters and they say 17.....

I agree. That's my source also. In addition to the 17 in service, ATDB reports another 82 in storage at least some of which can possibly be put back in service.

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: lightsaber
Posted 2013-01-11 13:03:01 and read 5908 times.

I'm imporessed to see 22 active airframes. That is great for a jet!

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Thread starter):
The DC-8 has been flying for 54 years,

Amazing. While the DC-3 beats it, that is for an 'ambient pressure' design.

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 1):
Given that it's 2013, I consider that to be really quite a lot!

Yes!   

Quoting BasilFawlty (Reply 5):
Yes, still going strong with Saha Air.

and going... and going...

Quoting BasilFawlty (Reply 10):
EP-SHP: first flight 03Dec74, delivery 16Dec74 (to Iran Air Force)

Why she is only 38 years old!  
Quoting ADent (Reply 12):
NASA still has their DC-8-72 going. They are planned to fly until 2016 on its current mission for ozone mapping over the poles.

Very low cycle. While impressive, it is operated more like a military transport.

Lightsaber

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: Viscount724
Posted 2013-01-11 13:36:48 and read 5644 times.

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 23):
Quoting BasilFawlty (Reply 10):
EP-SHP: first flight 03Dec74, delivery 16Dec74 (to Iran Air Force)

Why she is only 38 years old!

Some DL DC-9-51s celebrate their 38th birthday this year, including this one that made its first flight in May 1975 and was delivered to OS in August 1975.


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Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: CO953
Posted 2013-01-12 22:48:28 and read 5089 times.

Only have a bit of color to add to the thread - no technical knowledge....

I am 45 y.o. and flew the DC-8 once, when I was 11. I am pretty sure that it was nonstop, either LAX-IAH, or most likely LAX-MSY, on Delta.

At the time, being a young aviation buff, I was used to flying DC-10s, L-1011s and 727s only.... actually used to get tired of the 727s, thinking them humdrum and prosaic. Our family flew to Louisiana for Christmas 1978, as my grandma had passed away and the folks had things to take care of.

I remember being surprised that here I was staring the nose scoops of a Delta DC-8 right in the face through the LAX terminal window. I'm thinking - "wow, this plane is OLD!"

Get on board and, used to '10s and '11s, am struck by how very narrow it was, and how very lonnnnng. Had a great seat on the left, just ahead of the wing, looking right out at a nice profile view of engines #1 and #2, with the Delta widget and name right there as the engines wobbled nicely, as a 4-holer should.

Pilot made an announcement that "75 years ago today, December 17, 1903, the Wright brothers made the first flight at Kitty Hawk, North Carolina" and gave a short speech about the progress of manned flight. I thought it was cool that the pilot remembered (because I actually did!) and that I was flying on that day in a Delta DC-8.

Still a great little memory  

[Edited 2013-01-12 22:51:41]

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: N14AZ
Posted 2013-01-13 06:11:53 and read 4811 times.

Quoting Loran (Reply 21):
This list is quite accurate with recent updates:

http://www.aviation-friends-cologne.de/tag/DC8.html

It lists 22 active airframes.

Regards,
Loran

This is a great list. They have a similar list for the 707, which I often used. So it seems as if these DC 8s are still in service:

Quote:

1.) N41CX Air Transport International, Combi, seen back in service ICN 2.6.12
2.) N71CX Air Transport International, Combi
3.) N721CX Air Transport International, Combi; ex French Air Force F-RAFG
4.) N799AL Air Transport International, Combi
5.) 9G-FAB Airlift International, Cargo, still active, not stored RKT; ex ATI N786AL
6.) 9G-RAC Airlift International, Cargo; ex ABX Air N816AX
7.) 9G-SIM Airlift International, Cargo, arrived JNB for maintenance 7.9.11
8.) 9G-TOP Airlift International, Cargo, seen i/s LOS-FIH-LOS 29.7.12
9.) VP-BHS Brisair VIP; ex N274AT, HB-IGH
10.) 9T-TCN Congo Air Force, seen FIH 7/11 grey colours; c/n confirmed
11.) 4R-EXJ Expo Air, Cargo; seen in service DXB 18.1.12
12.) 9G-AXA Meridian Airways, Cargo; back in service since 15.9.11; ex ABX Air N811AX
13.) 9G-AXC Meridian Airways, Cargo; back in service since 5.12.10; ex ABX Air N828AX
14.) 9G-AXD Meridian Airways, Cargo; back in service since 26.1.11; ex ABX Air N819AX
15.) N817NA NASA ex N436NA re-regd. again
16.) XA-TXS PCG de Mexico, Cargo
17.) 9Q-CTA Protocole Aviation, Cargo, seen operational at WDH 4.9.10
18.) TN-AIE Protocole Aviation, Cargo; ex MK Airlines 9G-MKG
19.) 5V-TGF Togo Government, VIP; ex P4-DCE
20.) 3X-GHH Transair Cargo Service Cargo; delivered MAD - JNB 25.11.11
21.) 9Q-CJG Transair Cargo Service, Cargo; ex ZS-POL
22.) 9Q-CJL Transair Cargo Service, Cargo; ex Arrow N802BN

I was happy to see one of these beauties about 1 1/2 years ago in Hurghada:




VP-BHS, pictures taken through the dirty window of an Egyptair Express EMB 175...

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: viasa
Posted 2013-01-14 12:33:41 and read 4237 times.

We report only 15 DC-8s active: http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/air..._manufacturer=DOU&ac_aircraft=DC-8

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: RussianJet
Posted 2013-01-14 12:40:26 and read 4193 times.

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 23):
Yes!

Never flown one, but have seen a few up close and had a darn good look around on board one (VIP transport). One of my favourite visitors to STN ever that was.

Quoting N14AZ (Reply 26):
I was happy to see one of these beauties about 1 1/2 years ago in Hurghada:

Those things look HUGE on that bird!

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: n471wn
Posted 2013-01-14 15:17:57 and read 3950 times.

Quoting viasa (Reply 27):
We report only 15 DC-8s active

So we have your 15 and the other poster cites airliner list at 22 and I am an ATDB man so I will stick to their number of 17 which consists of:

50's--- 2
60's----11
70's----4

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: KC135TopBoom
Posted 2013-01-14 15:27:28 and read 3925 times.

It is interesting to see so few -70 models still flying compared to the -60s.

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: Spacepope
Posted 2013-01-14 17:07:00 and read 3803 times.

Quoting n471wn (Reply 29):
So we have your 15 and the other poster cites airliner list at 22 and I am an ATDB man so I will stick to their number of 17 which consists of:

I have doubts about the number of -50s flying. For the past few years, the Congolese AF one was the only one flying, and even that was sort of sketchy. There may very well be as few as a dozen "truly" active.

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: n471wn
Posted 2013-01-14 17:10:14 and read 3782 times.

Quoting Spacepope (Reply 31):
I have doubts about the number of -50s flying. For the past few years, the Congolese AF one was the only one flying, and even that was sort of sketchy. There may very well be as few as a dozen "truly" active.

Yes ATDB says the last two 50's are both in the Congo....

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: Tan Flyr
Posted 2013-01-14 17:27:46 and read 3773 times.

well...I guess we can say the DC-8 story is pretty much in the last chapter..we just do not know the exact end date. While I missed the first generation of the 8's (11/12/21/33) i did fly the 51,61,62,63, & 70's variants.

The younger folks on here truly missed out on a great, well thought-out, well built machine. The Palomar seats, the bigger windows, and one of my favorites, the unique sound of the hi/lo start of the JT3's.

I have mentioned, as other contributors, once you heard the howl of that start you never forgot it..there are some you tube clips for those that want the next best thing..a video of it.

The 8 always gave a great ride, even in turbulent weather..a great balance of power and grace in flight.
So our collective experience marches on..we can write about the sound of teh L1011's Rolls Royces, the hot rod performance of light loaded DC10, the early 767's, and a favorite on here, the 757's unique position of cross over abilities for all kinds of missions. But, the "Diesel 8"...well..she will always be sweet memory!

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: crj900lr
Posted 2013-01-14 17:59:54 and read 3710 times.

Flew on several with DL back in the day, the last one being a FLL-ATL flight that departed FLL around 18:00. Always enjoyed the ride on them.

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: MrBuzzcut
Posted 2013-01-14 19:28:00 and read 3597 times.

I'm glad to say I had the opportunity to take some wonderful flights on ATI's DC-8 Combis (both 63 and 73 when the 70's were still flying) between HIK and AWK while working at AWK as a contractor for a few years. The flights were always smooth, the planes always in good shape, and the staff professional. I'll be sad to hear when the last DC-8 lands in the desert.

I like the DC-8 enough to have bought a membership just so I could post  

Topic: RE: Only 36 DC-8s Still Flying?
Username: n729pa
Posted 2013-01-15 00:35:55 and read 3422 times.

One of the highlights of a early morning at LHR in the very late 1980s was catching 2 DC8Fs coming in, a Burlington Northern one and an Air Canada one.

Apart from the Omani Royal Flight DC8 that made regular visits in those days DC8s were quite rare. I see to recall Air India had a leased freighter for a while, and I remember seeing a Kenya Airways DC8 (it was leased in with an Irish registration) long after their 707s had gone must have been when one of the A310s was in for service or something. Mid 80s I remember seeing the SAS DC8s, still one of my favorite "golden oldie memories" I had a chance to fly on a UA DC8 in the US, sadly didn't take it, I regret that now. Great looking plane.


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