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Topic: US Express (AX) Flight Diverts; False Fire Indicator
Username: boeing773ER
Posted 2013-01-14 13:13:05 and read 4338 times.

According to all the major news source, US flight 3518 from BDL to PIT operated by Trans State reported an onboard fire today.

After 15 minutes in the air the flight returned back to BDL, the flight landed back in BDL safely and there was no fire detected.

The flight was operated by an ERJ-145

story from ABC

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[Edited 2013-01-14 13:14:21]

[Edited 2013-01-14 13:15:06]

Topic: US Express (AX) Flight Diverts; False Fire Indicator
Username: Stitch
Posted 2013-01-14 13:48:42 and read 4073 times.

Quoting boeing773ER (Thread starter):
The flight was operated by an ERJ-145.

I thought only the 787 could catch fire.  


Seriously, glad to see this wasn't a serious incident and all is well.

Topic: US Express (AX) Flight Diverts; False Fire Indicator
Username: mesaflyguy
Posted 2013-01-14 14:15:14 and read 3849 times.

Thankfully the indication was false. I remember this same flight a few years ago had the nose gear collapse on pushback also. Not related, but coincidental.

Topic: US Express (AX) Flight Diverts; False Fire Indicator
Username: kgaiflyer
Posted 2013-01-14 14:28:25 and read 3736 times.

Along these lines, UA654 (LAX-IAD) diverted to MCI Sunday night.

It took off from MCI after an hour on the ground. Not a word in the papers.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/U...4/history/20130114/0028Z/KLAX/KMCI
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/U...4/history/20130114/0341Z/KMCI/KIAD

Topic: US Express (AX) Flight Diverts; False Fire Indicator
Username: Maverick623
Posted 2013-01-14 14:51:35 and read 3590 times.

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 3):
It took off from MCI after an hour on the ground.

Probably a medical diversion. Not nearly as interesting as a non-existent fire.

Topic: US Express (AX) Flight Diverts; False Fire Indicator
Username: mesaflyguy
Posted 2013-01-14 15:12:03 and read 3406 times.

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 3):

It does look like a medical diversion, which happens every day and are a huge nonevent(except to the people on the plane and the patient themselves. A fire, even nonexistant, is a danger to the lives of more than a few people on the aircraft.

Topic: US Express (AX) Flight Diverts; False Fire Indicator
Username: apodino
Posted 2013-01-14 15:14:43 and read 3367 times.

Another incident involving Trans States....how do these guys manage to stay under the radar with some of the problems they have had over the years?

Topic: US Express (AX) Flight Diverts; False Fire Indicator
Username: mesaflyguy
Posted 2013-01-14 15:18:51 and read 3312 times.

Quoting apodino (Reply 6):

I thought the two runway incidents at YOW were weather related? Those surely cannot be fully blamed on the airline. However, other incidents have occured, but what airline hasn't had incidents occur?

Topic: US Express (AX) Flight Diverts; False Fire Indicator
Username: apodino
Posted 2013-01-14 15:25:37 and read 3259 times.

Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 7):
I thought the two runway incidents at YOW were weather related? Those surely cannot be fully blamed on the airline. However, other incidents have occured, but what airline hasn't had incidents occur?

Actually they have had three Runway excursions at YOW over the years. You can partly blame weather...but its funny that only Trans States had those problems there.

Topic: RE: US Express (AX) Flight Diverts; False Fire Indicator
Username: flight152
Posted 2013-01-14 15:59:51 and read 3096 times.

Quoting apodino (Reply 8):
You can partly blame weather...but its funny that only Trans States had those problems there.

It's also pretty funny that Trans States seems to have so many issues with a total of 22 aircraft in their fleet.

Topic: RE: US Express (AX) Flight Diverts; False Fire Indicator
Username: JBo
Posted 2013-01-14 17:44:09 and read 2898 times.

Quoting apodino (Reply 8):
Actually they have had three Runway excursions at YOW over the years. You can partly blame weather...but its funny that only Trans States had those problems there.

In Trans States' defense, aren't they one of the few operators of ERJs that don't have thrust reversers?

Topic: RE: US Express (AX) Flight Diverts; False Fire Indicator
Username: crj900lr
Posted 2013-01-14 17:50:06 and read 2882 times.

Quoting JBo (Reply 10):
In Trans States' defense, aren't they one of the few operators of ERJs that don't have thrust reversers?

I believe you may be right, but atleast they didn't stall it on landing in PVD and rip the wing off the plane.

Topic: RE: US Express (AX) Flight Diverts; False Fire Indicator
Username: Cubsrule
Posted 2013-01-14 19:17:29 and read 2779 times.

I didn't know that aircraft other than the 787 ever diverted for fire indications.

Back on-topic . . .

Quoting apodino (Reply 8):
Actually they have had three Runway excursions at YOW over the years. You can partly blame weather...but its funny that only Trans States had those problems there.

Also funny that they don't have them anywhere else, no? When the numbers of incidents are as thankfully low as they are in the US, it's tough to make statements about relative safety based on this incidents. Is OH less safe than XE because they've had a hull loss and a bunch of fatalities? That's a tough statement for me - and I expect for anyone who knew OH - to swallow.

Topic: RE: US Express (AX) Flight Diverts; False Fire Indicator
Username: mesaflyguy
Posted 2013-01-14 21:24:32 and read 2686 times.

Quoting apodino (Reply 8):

Wasn't aware there was a third one. Either way, I wasn't saying you're wrong, I just thought that those were more related to the combination of the lack of thrust reversers and weather conditions. I just think that those can't be fully blamed on Trans Staes.

Topic: RE: US Express (AX) Flight Diverts; False Fire Indicator
Username: N353SK
Posted 2013-01-15 12:27:55 and read 1225 times.

Quoting apodino (Reply 6):

Another incident involving Trans States....how do these guys manage to stay under the radar with some of the problems they have had over the years?

I would guess it was a Lav Smoke message, as there is no other "indicator" of smoke or fire in the cabin except for actual smoke and fire. The ERJ is semi-notorious for false lav smoke alarms, so not really an issue exclusive to Tranny.

Topic: RE: US Express (AX) Flight Diverts; False Fire Indicator
Username: Acey559
Posted 2013-01-15 12:59:24 and read 1114 times.

AX ran off the runway at ROC last winter too. Unfortunately I was right behind them leaving ORD and had to divert because they closed the airport.


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