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Topic: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: martinrpo1
Posted 2013-01-17 05:05:58 and read 59310 times.

The new AA livery will be presented today at 9:00am CST.

http://www.aa.com/newamerican

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: KarelXWB
Posted 2013-01-17 05:07:59 and read 59564 times.

It's already visible on that website! 

/joke

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: dtw757
Posted 2013-01-17 05:12:51 and read 59243 times.

What time is it starting? Press release says 9am CST but another link I clicked says just 48 minutes remaining? Did they really mean 9am EST?

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: A388
Posted 2013-01-17 05:13:20 and read 59224 times.

Can't wat to finally see it. I assume their 738 that is currently on its way to DFW will unveil the new livery!!!

A388

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: martinrpo1
Posted 2013-01-17 05:17:39 and read 59118 times.

Quoting A388 (Reply 3):

I believe both a 738 and a 77W are painted in the new colors

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: dtw757
Posted 2013-01-17 05:19:01 and read 59053 times.

It's already out....at least part of it. Pic coming in a few minutes!!!

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: martinrpo1
Posted 2013-01-17 05:20:07 and read 58970 times.

Quoting dtw757 (Reply 5):

Do you have a pic?

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: Bthebest
Posted 2013-01-17 05:20:43 and read 58957 times.

link says 1500 UTC, 0900 CST

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: KarelXWB
Posted 2013-01-17 05:22:40 and read 58915 times.

Quoting A388 (Reply 3):
I assume their 738 that is currently on its way to DFW will unveil the new livery!!!

The 737?! I hope they painted at least one 77W too.

[Edited 2013-01-17 05:27:08]

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: dtw757
Posted 2013-01-17 05:25:28 and read 58850 times.

It may not be good for me and my career to post this pic ahead of the unveiling. I will however describe what I see. The tail has red white and blue. The leading edge of the tail has wide blue stripes while the back part of the tail has smaller red stripes. All the stripes are going horizontally. It will be interesting to the entire aircraft!

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: je89_w
Posted 2013-01-17 05:26:45 and read 58729 times.

After all the waiting, anticipation, guessing, and almost 1000 (?) posts here on A.net, this livery better be good.

If there are two aircraft already painted in the new livery, AA sure did a good job in keeping it under wraps!

Can't wait.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: martinrpo1
Posted 2013-01-17 05:27:57 and read 58708 times.

Quoting dtw757 (Reply 9):

But so far do you like it? Have you seen the logo?

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: dtw757
Posted 2013-01-17 05:30:23 and read 58495 times.

Quoting martinrpo1 (Reply 11):
But so far do you like it? Have you seen the logo?

I have not seen the logo and as far as I can see, there is no logo on the tail.

I think there may have been a glitch when I click an internal link and the tail appeared. I took a screen shot of it but I just don't feel it wise for me to post that pic here!

[Edited 2013-01-17 05:31:58]

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: jcwr56
Posted 2013-01-17 05:34:51 and read 58397 times.

Quoting dtw757 (Reply 9):
It may not be good for me and my career to post this pic ahead of the unveiling

What's a little risk every now and then!  

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: KarelXWB
Posted 2013-01-17 05:35:02 and read 58358 times.

Well, you could upload the picture anonymously to tinypic.com and let anyone else post it  

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: Birdwatching
Posted 2013-01-17 05:40:10 and read 58104 times.

Oh please! You have waited for months, now can you wait another 1 hour 20 minutes?
Soren   

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: dtw757
Posted 2013-01-17 05:43:23 and read 57944 times.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 14):

Well, you could upload the picture anonymously to tinypic.com and let anyone else post it

It had to be a glitch because I can not make it show me again. Will be very exciting to see what the entire aircraft looks like!

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: aacun
Posted 2013-01-17 05:46:24 and read 57775 times.

[quote=dtw757,reply=16][/

Just saw it too...... But i have to say it has stripes on the tail, and it doesnt look good......... Is red and blue stripes? That what I just saw... It cant be we waited all this time for THIs!!!

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: Polot
Posted 2013-01-17 05:49:49 and read 57749 times.

Quoting dtw757 (Reply 9):
The leading edge of the tail has wide blue stripes while the back part of the tail has smaller red stripes. All the stripes are going horizontally.

Hmm, horizontal stripes converges nicely with US's motif   

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: dtw757
Posted 2013-01-17 05:51:34 and read 57604 times.

Quoting aacun (Reply 17):
Just saw it too...... But i have to say it has stripes on the tail, and it doesnt look good......... Is red and blue stripes? That what I just saw... It cant be we waited all this time for THIs!!!

Yes red white and blue stripes! I will hold judgement until I see the entire aircraft!

Although looking at it more and more I have to say I think I like it. It's very American!

[Edited 2013-01-17 05:53:34]

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: WORLDTRAVEL83
Posted 2013-01-17 05:53:28 and read 57542 times.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL9634


The plane is landing in DFW now for a dramatic entrance!!!

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: aacun
Posted 2013-01-17 05:53:29 and read 57482 times.

Quoting dtw757 (Reply 19):

It changed now, you cant see it anymore. You think that was it?

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: dtw757
Posted 2013-01-17 05:54:32 and read 57384 times.

Quoting aacun (Reply 21):
It changed now, you cant see it anymore. You think that was it?

That was it for sure. I would be willing to bet!

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: runway23
Posted 2013-01-17 05:55:39 and read 57384 times.

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 15):
Oh please! You have waited for months, now can you wait another 1 hour 20 minutes?

It's not like we've been waiting 45 years for a new livery anyways.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: casinterest
Posted 2013-01-17 05:58:30 and read 57170 times.

This livery has better be good. They are migrating away from a pretty decent scheme.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: aacun
Posted 2013-01-17 05:59:17 and read 60380 times.

Just saw the whole plane..... It was on that internal site!!!!!

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: seansasLCY
Posted 2013-01-17 05:59:55 and read 62627 times.

Apparently this is the new logo

https://twitter.com/greg787/status/291906778130681858/photo/1

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: WORLDTRAVEL83
Posted 2013-01-17 06:00:55 and read 64739 times.

she will be on the ground in 10 minutes!!

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: qf002
Posted 2013-01-17 06:02:40 and read 64631 times.

Quoting seansasLCY (Reply 26):

Far more radical than I expected, but I think it looks decent... Now for the livery!

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: aacun
Posted 2013-01-17 06:02:53 and read 64684 times.

Could be just saw a pic of the airplane on jetnet, and it sort of had something like this on the side and the word American in big letters on the side

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: lostsound
Posted 2013-01-17 06:04:26 and read 64249 times.

Quoting seansasLCY (Reply 26):
Apparently this is the new logo

https://twitter.com/greg787/status/291906778130681858/photo/1

Love it! Can't wait to see this livery.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: KarelXWB
Posted 2013-01-17 06:05:07 and read 64568 times.

Quoting seansasLCY (Reply 26):
Apparently this is the new logo

https://twitter.com/greg787/status/291906778130681858/photo/1

Now that's a 180° turn, looking good so far.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: queb
Posted 2013-01-17 06:06:54 and read 66162 times.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: Birdwatching
Posted 2013-01-17 06:06:59 and read 65898 times.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: crosswinds21
Posted 2013-01-17 06:09:09 and read 64156 times.

That new logo really reminds me of Air France...but better.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: jamesontheroad
Posted 2013-01-17 06:09:40 and read 65304 times.

I'm sorry, but I'll mourn the passing of Helvetica - a truly classy, sold sans serif typeface.   

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: queb
Posted 2013-01-17 06:10:53 and read 65191 times.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: commavia
Posted 2013-01-17 06:11:05 and read 63892 times.

If that is the new logo, and it looks like it is, I'm pleasantly surprised. I don't hate it. I actually like it. While I am sad to see the eagle go, I am happy they at least kept both the red and blue colors.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: skipness1E
Posted 2013-01-17 06:11:50 and read 63502 times.

It's a seagull peering out of a mailbox?

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: us330
Posted 2013-01-17 06:11:51 and read 63419 times.

Aircraft should be on the ground at DFW according to Flightaware.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: Polot
Posted 2013-01-17 06:13:04 and read 63303 times.

Quoting commavia (Reply 37):
While I am sad to see the eagle go, I am happy they at least kept both the red and blue colors.

Well they still have a very stylized eagle head with the white part (and gap between that and the blue), although it kind of reminds me of the USPS logo (without actually taking a close look at that logo). I really like it as well though.

[Edited 2013-01-17 06:14:06]

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: Owleye
Posted 2013-01-17 06:13:39 and read 63244 times.

Looks cool. Surprising, out of the box.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: premobrimo
Posted 2013-01-17 06:14:05 and read 62943 times.

Is the white part an eagle's beak?

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: aacun
Posted 2013-01-17 06:14:15 and read 63088 times.

I hope thats our new logo...... Love it !!!!!!

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: CALPSAFltSkeds
Posted 2013-01-17 06:14:17 and read 62979 times.

The white looks like either a bent winglet or a pull tab of some sort. If the logo posted is for an aircraft heading to the right, the white portion appears to be bending against the wind, not with it. if you drop a line through the middle, don;t you mostly get the UA stars and bars stripe on the tail??

[Edited 2013-01-17 06:15:13]

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: max999
Posted 2013-01-17 06:15:12 and read 62863 times.

It looks like someone is peeling away a sticker!

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: ERJ170
Posted 2013-01-17 06:15:20 and read 62887 times.

well, the eagle beak is still there and that's just the logo.. it may still be on the plane.. but let's hope that it's a little more exciting.. I mean, I like it and all but I would like to see a bold new statement that's classy and contemporary..

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: aacun
Posted 2013-01-17 06:15:34 and read 62888 times.

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 44):

Thought about that UA resemblance. That could be the retro part they were talking about though

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: Polot
Posted 2013-01-17 06:16:27 and read 62555 times.

Quoting premobrimo (Reply 42):
Is the white part an eagle's beak?

More of its head than just the beak. The more I look at it the more I like it. In addition to just a stylized eagle head profile it kind of looks like an eagle with its head turned back (with the red being the body and the different red shades helping to give it definition).

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: NobleRT
Posted 2013-01-17 06:17:35 and read 62525 times.

I'm looking forward to the new livery more than I'd like to admit. The teaser does not seem very promising. I hope my first impression gets proven wrong.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: CALPSAFltSkeds
Posted 2013-01-17 06:18:02 and read 62649 times.

Oops, stars and bars have red on top, blue on bottom. Word United vs. the pull tab
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Unite...d=42a643d86db3af665ca40e27ca3c846d

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: lostsound
Posted 2013-01-17 06:18:48 and read 64805 times.

NEW LIVERY SEEN HERE:

http://thepointsguy.com/2013/01/and-...d%3A+thepointsguy+(The+Points+Guy)

Go to the comments section!

[Edited 2013-01-17 06:22:19]

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: johruk
Posted 2013-01-17 06:19:54 and read 61646 times.

It kinda reminds me of Mexicana....I think it is the blue colour and is it supposed to be a bird?

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: KFlyer
Posted 2013-01-17 06:19:55 and read 61562 times.

Looks like a redesign done right. Modern and stands out. Surprised to see an airline get it right in recent times. Hope the livery stands up to expectations.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: BD338
Posted 2013-01-17 06:20:24 and read 61388 times.

Sigh, a sign of the times we live in. We can't wait for anything announced formally anymore, we must get a sneak preview, a "stolen" image, a tweet, anything so we "know the story" before anyone else. Personally I'm looking forward to 9 CST to see the whole picture.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: tjwgrr
Posted 2013-01-17 06:24:02 and read 62246 times.

http://mediacdn.disqus.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/417/6840/original.jpg

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: gulfstream650
Posted 2013-01-17 06:24:42 and read 61133 times.

737 has landed at DFW

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: ERJ170
Posted 2013-01-17 06:25:21 and read 61205 times.

oh.. I hope that is not it...

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: je89_w
Posted 2013-01-17 06:26:25 and read 60414 times.

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 57):
oh.. I hope that is not it...

Matches the description those two posters above have described.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: BlueSky1976
Posted 2013-01-17 06:27:12 and read 60390 times.

If this is it, then I don't like it.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: aacun
Posted 2013-01-17 06:27:28 and read 60262 times.

I think that really close to what I saw on jetnet.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: MIAspotter
Posted 2013-01-17 06:27:36 and read 60421 times.

Quoting tjwgrr (Reply 55):

Hmm... not bad but... its just... gray... you could loose it in LHR on a dark gray morning and might even confuse it´s tail for a blast fence.

Let´s wait for the official pics.

MIAspotter.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: NobleRT
Posted 2013-01-17 06:27:54 and read 60248 times.

I also hope that's not it. I want the AA to remain in there somewhere.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: KarelXWB
Posted 2013-01-17 06:28:30 and read 60007 times.

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 57):
oh.. I hope that is not it...

According some people on twitter this picture comes from the AA website.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: lostsound
Posted 2013-01-17 06:29:04 and read 61246 times.

Looks beautiful in my opinion. The text I think is silver, which adds dynamic and haritage.  

[Edited 2013-01-17 06:29:55]

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: 817Dreamliiner
Posted 2013-01-17 06:29:12 and read 59759 times.

Quoting aacun (Reply 60):

I think that really close to what I saw on jetnet.

Are you suggesting that you may have saw something different?

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: Focker
Posted 2013-01-17 06:29:37 and read 59888 times.

My initial comment:

Logo: Yes!
Livery: No...

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: aacun
Posted 2013-01-17 06:29:48 and read 59769 times.

If you ask me, it reminds me of.....
Cubana airlines?

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: Acey
Posted 2013-01-17 06:30:08 and read 59408 times.

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 57):
oh.. I hope that is not it...

For the love of all that is holy, I hope that is not it.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: KFlyer
Posted 2013-01-17 06:31:16 and read 59290 times.

I guess the livery would look nicer on a real aircraft ...

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: ERJ170
Posted 2013-01-17 06:33:24 and read 59084 times.

Quoting tjwgrr (Reply 55):

I"m sorry but this has got to be just a huge huge mistake it this is the best AA can do. It's like they have given up and just said throw any d@mn thing on the plane and pull it iout. I mean, that's horrible. Every other rebrand from a US carrier, and even WN, has been hugely better than this one.. I just can't stand that TAIL! IMO, they should have put a huge eagle on it and let the talons come down on the fuselage. But that it about as bad as seeing tourist in other countries wearing the US flag as pajamas or boxers or something.. just wrong and disrespectful and autrocious!

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: KarelXWB
Posted 2013-01-17 06:33:26 and read 58885 times.

Quoting KFlyer (Reply 69):
I guess the livery would look nicer on a real aircraft ...

It always does.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: AA94
Posted 2013-01-17 06:33:31 and read 60125 times.

I like the logo, not a fan of the livery.

At least it's not Eurowhite, right?   

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: plateman
Posted 2013-01-17 06:33:42 and read 59793 times.

Multiple shots of said livery via FlyerTalk -- copy/paste that link:

http://www.aa.com/newamerican/img/planeSpritemap.jpg

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: scbriml
Posted 2013-01-17 06:33:43 and read 59019 times.

Quoting BD338 (Reply 54):
Sigh, a sign of the times we live in. We can't wait for anything announced formally anymore, we must get a sneak preview, a "stolen" image, a tweet, anything so we "know the story" before anyone else.

Welcome to the 21st century. Love it or hate it, it's the way life is lived these days. Instant gratification.

Quoting tjwgrr (Reply 55):

I like it. Sleek, modern and business-like. All the things the new AA needs to be.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: adg737800
Posted 2013-01-17 06:34:48 and read 58546 times.

I like the logo, it really, really works.

But as for the tail... it looks terrible!!! Clip art US flag!

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: einsteinboricua
Posted 2013-01-17 06:35:37 and read 58547 times.

Quoting tjwgrr (Reply 55):
https://twitter.com/greg787/status/291906778130681858/photo/1

If that's the new livery then I sure hope US decides to takeover and keep the US livery with the AA name...that's just an eyesore.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: gulfstream650
Posted 2013-01-17 06:35:44 and read 57666 times.

Don't like it. Tail looks tacky - like a cheap US charter operation

Sad.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: BlueSky1976
Posted 2013-01-17 06:37:45 and read 57236 times.

The new American livery reminds me of... Cubana.
Colours on the tail should be more subtle, they are too much "in your face", in my opinion.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: vanguard737
Posted 2013-01-17 06:37:54 and read 57197 times.

I like the logo. It looks like the United Stars & Bars, Air France Swoosh and Pepsi Globe had a love child.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: Acey
Posted 2013-01-17 06:38:19 and read 56861 times.

I almost feel like they should have just the actual American flag on the tail to go along with the red stripes. The blue and red stripes together... well it's going to take me quite some time to warm up to this.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: commavia
Posted 2013-01-17 06:38:27 and read 56941 times.

Well, looks like that is the new livery, and wow - that is pretty bad. I agree with others that tail looks pretty awful. I actually really like the new logo, but that livery leaves much to be desired, unfortunately. If they had just put a little more effort into making that tail not look so cheap and basic, I think that would have gone a long way. Oh well ...

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: martinrpo1
Posted 2013-01-17 06:38:56 and read 56907 times.

It is definitely a big change, but I'll get used to it. Its classy, modern, and VERY American. The 77W will look gorgeous on this livery. We'll get used to it. It is definitely better than any of the other US carriers.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: lostsound
Posted 2013-01-17 06:40:09 and read 57365 times.

Lol face it, none of you were going to like it no matter what it looked like.   

I personally love it. For whoever said it's rediculous to have the US flag on the tail, there a several airlines that do this... what makes the US any different.

I think it'll look great on the airplanes.  

[Edited 2013-01-17 06:43:26]

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: Braniff747SP
Posted 2013-01-17 06:40:28 and read 56436 times.

Logo is nice... I'm not sure about the scheme though.

It has the potential to look great in person, less so in the drawings.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: panam330
Posted 2013-01-17 06:42:04 and read 56559 times.

Nice going, AA. Two very large thumbs down. The livery was about the only thing that didn't need changing. This will be a case study of 'what not to do' in marketing classes for years to come.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: WORLDTRAVEL83
Posted 2013-01-17 06:42:25 and read 57451 times.

http://www.airliners.net/uf/view.fil...?id=176840&filename=phpp5I2HQ.jpeg


PICTURE!!!!!

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: SCQ83
Posted 2013-01-17 06:43:04 and read 56120 times.

Ugly, the logo looks like directly printed from Word. The grey looks a bit Spirit-like (new livery). The tail is not that bad in my opinion though.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: ERJ170
Posted 2013-01-17 06:44:36 and read 55712 times.

I only have one word for that tail... VOID!!!!

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: Ronaldo747
Posted 2013-01-17 06:44:52 and read 55661 times.

It's not that bad at all imho, but the tail seems kind of .... busy .... unsettled. A bit stressful for the eyes.

[Edited 2013-01-17 06:47:01]

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: ZSOFN
Posted 2013-01-17 06:45:11 and read 55619 times.

Quoting panam330 (Reply 85):
The livery was about the only thing that didn't need changing.

With orders for aircraft with large sections of composite, not changing it wasn't an option.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: capri
Posted 2013-01-17 06:45:55 and read 55632 times.

looks like a ripped pair of jeans!!!!, would ATC be able to spot it in a heavy fog

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: Birdwatching
Posted 2013-01-17 06:45:58 and read 56762 times.

Wow this angle looks excellent!
I love the new livery. IMO, anyone who doesnt is stuck in the 80s or 90s. This is what liveries look like today, and this is the way modern companies are branded in 2013 America. Get used to it!
Soren   


[Edited 2013-01-17 06:49:07]

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: RL757PVD
Posted 2013-01-17 06:46:13 and read 55413 times.

The tail is hiddeous.... but im sure it will only fuel more speculation for a US merger, same as in how the Delta widget pointed to the northwest when they unveiled theirs....

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: chautauquasaab
Posted 2013-01-17 06:46:40 and read 55270 times.

It puts the emphasis on the tail... much like BA, Qantas, Qatar, the New Iberia, and others.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: BlueSky1976
Posted 2013-01-17 06:46:57 and read 55289 times.

Cubana de USA.
Major letdown.

I was expecting something along navy-blueish eagle and titles to go along with battleship grey.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: KarelXWB
Posted 2013-01-17 06:47:10 and read 56057 times.

Quoting martinrpo1 (Reply 82):
Its classy

  

Quote:
modern

   Tight and sleek..

Quote:
and VERY American

.. but a little bit too patriotic for me.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: tjwgrr
Posted 2013-01-17 06:47:51 and read 56317 times.

From WFAA.com Dallas



[Edited 2013-01-17 06:49:42]

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: scbriml
Posted 2013-01-17 06:47:58 and read 55403 times.

Quoting panam330 (Reply 85):
The livery was about the only thing that didn't need changing.

Yes it absolutely did need changing. AA said so themselves.

Aside from being old-fashioned beyond belief and looking shoddy when the planes have been in service a while, the new planes with much higher composite content needed a painted finish.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: mcmax
Posted 2013-01-17 06:47:59 and read 55251 times.

Quoting commavia (Reply 81):
Well, looks like that is the new livery, and wow - that is pretty bad. I agree with others that tail looks pretty awful. I actually really like the new logo, but that livery leaves much to be desired, unfortunately. If they had just put a little more effort into making that tail not look so cheap and basic, I think that would have gone a long way. Oh well ...

I absolutely agree. Love the new logo, but that tail remains me a bit of Cubana.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: jalapeno
Posted 2013-01-17 06:48:32 and read 56249 times.



Watched it come in this morning. Quick phone photo

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: LH526
Posted 2013-01-17 06:48:36 and read 54974 times.

So 'stars and stripes' turned 'stripes and stripes'?

[Edited 2013-01-17 06:50:26]

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: richierich
Posted 2013-01-17 06:49:06 and read 54195 times.

Am I the only one that sees "Greyhound" when I see the logo?

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: CF-CPI
Posted 2013-01-17 06:49:53 and read 54157 times.

Compared to this, the new Finnair looks positively exciting.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: Owleye
Posted 2013-01-17 06:50:17 and read 53744 times.

I love it. Very American!

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: chautauquasaab
Posted 2013-01-17 06:50:31 and read 53786 times.

I DO see the Greyhound!!!

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: casinterest
Posted 2013-01-17 06:50:33 and read 54172 times.

The video is here.

http://www.aa.com/newamerican/

2:30 -4:00 is the new logo in action.

[Edited 2013-01-17 06:51:23]

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: WORLDTRAVEL83
Posted 2013-01-17 06:50:44 and read 53751 times.

This is horrible!!! The tail is good but the body wtf??

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: N202PA
Posted 2013-01-17 06:50:46 and read 53831 times.

Just my $0.02, but the new scheme is just awful. It's vague, bland and boring as hell. Did a 5 year old design this thing? Terrible.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: Dreadnought
Posted 2013-01-17 06:51:19 and read 53733 times.

Personally I would have preferred to have a cheatline, but not bad. Now if they can just keep the planes clean inside and train their staff to treat passengers decently instead of as if we were an annoyance, I might fly them again.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: BC77008
Posted 2013-01-17 06:51:29 and read 53799 times.

Please don't let that be the livery. Please, please, please for the love of God, NO! There is something so Wal-Mart about it

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: CXfirst
Posted 2013-01-17 06:51:41 and read 53693 times.

I like the new livery, and I also think it will grow on a number of users here.

-CXfirst

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: a300 american
Posted 2013-01-17 06:52:00 and read 53777 times.

Logo works. Very nice. Tail section is just a disaster.............. should have stuck with solid colors, but thats my opinion.

I'm sure we all will eventually like it (in some form, hahah).

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: capri
Posted 2013-01-17 06:52:11 and read 53337 times.

everything is right except the tail, something not right with the contrast of rest of airplane, we needed something shiny and sparky not foggy like London sky

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: william
Posted 2013-01-17 06:52:13 and read 53408 times.

Quoting scbriml (Reply 98):
Yes it absolutely did need changing. AA said so themselves.

Aside from being old-fashioned beyond belief and looking shoddy when the planes have been in service a while, the new planes with much higher composite content needed a painted finish.

No it didn't, since you are from England take a look at Mclaren's paint scheme on their "composite" F1 car.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: HermansCVR580
Posted 2013-01-17 06:52:14 and read 53772 times.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Retro my butt!!!!! Where is the eagle? Goodness I am speechless on just how terrible this livery is.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: planespotting
Posted 2013-01-17 06:52:21 and read 53462 times.

That thing is ... awful. I can't believe any graphic designer worth his salt actually came up with that tail design.

This makes the new United livery look like the best plane I've ever seen ...

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: StarGuy
Posted 2013-01-17 06:52:26 and read 53349 times.

Oh my goodness, what a shame! I think it's Horrid.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: SmokeOnReadyNow
Posted 2013-01-17 06:52:31 and read 53334 times.

Will be there any design on the belly of the aircraft or on the winglets of aircraft that have them? Nothing shown so far tells me either way.

Edit: seeing the 737 now, winglet question answered.

[Edited 2013-01-17 06:53:50]

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: mdavies06
Posted 2013-01-17 06:52:55 and read 53350 times.

It is not that bad. I am neutral on it. Can they not put the logo on the tail instead?

I am already wondering how it will look like on the Airbus A320...

Quoting jalapeno (Reply 100):
Watched it come in this morning. Quick phone photo

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: NYC777
Posted 2013-01-17 06:53:42 and read 53540 times.

It looks good on the 777-300ER.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: Acey
Posted 2013-01-17 06:53:51 and read 53315 times.

Why no stripes on the outside of the winglet? They seem to be so stripe happy at this point.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: LGA777
Posted 2013-01-17 06:54:14 and read 52952 times.

Don't like the bare winglet on the 738, seems like the new logo has almost the perfect shape to be on the winglet.

Cheers

LGA777

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: milemaster
Posted 2013-01-17 06:54:27 and read 52993 times.

I'm sure everyone's crazy Tea Partier uncle will love this new livery. It's clear that marketing was told to come up with a brand that says "patriotic, flagship, bold". I personally think its too much.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: ouboy79
Posted 2013-01-17 06:54:38 and read 52977 times.

Tail design is horrible. US Airways...please fix this. LOL

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: BlueSky1976
Posted 2013-01-17 06:54:44 and read 52930 times.

The best looking thing on that 737 is the grey winglet.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: plateman
Posted 2013-01-17 06:54:50 and read 52957 times.

Predicted it before that the majority, if not all, on here would hate it no matter what it looked like since you hate everything new livery ever posted. Wish I were a betting man.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: CF-CPI
Posted 2013-01-17 06:55:01 and read 52385 times.

Who designed this? Is it Landor, or one of the other big design houses?

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: MaverickM11
Posted 2013-01-17 06:55:04 and read 52371 times.

That. Is. Hideous. Bring me a knitting needle.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: TWA902fly
Posted 2013-01-17 06:55:15 and read 53244 times.

Quoting BD338 (Reply 54):
Sigh, a sign of the times we live in. We can't wait for anything announced formally anymore, we must get a sneak preview, a "stolen" image, a tweet, anything so we "know the story" before anyone else. Personally I'm looking forward to 9 CST to see the whole picture.

You know, purposely leaking small fragments to the public is part of many corporation's marketing campaigns. From a marketing perspective, the created "hype" has a value to it. I wouldn't be surprised if some posters in this thread work for AA - at the very least to monitor whats being said rather than instigating it  

'902

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: Josh32121
Posted 2013-01-17 06:55:20 and read 53132 times.

The logo would have looked awesome on the tail instead of that strange stylized version of the U.S. flag. New logo: awesome. Overall: bleh. Regardless, the titles and logo on the fuselage are easily covered with decals whatever happens to AA.   

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: n797mx
Posted 2013-01-17 06:55:43 and read 53358 times.


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A little deja-vu on that tail 

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: ANITIX87
Posted 2013-01-17 06:56:24 and read 51991 times.

Overall, I like the rendering better than the pictures. I think if the red/white stripes continued all the way down to the bottom of the fuselage it would suddenly look a lot better.

However, anyone who expected anything less than billboard titles and an obviously "American" tail was disillusioned and greedy. This is how airlines have been branded for the last decade or so (Finnair, Emirates, Virgin, Air France, Lufthansa, TAM, even Swiss!)

TIS

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: NobleRT
Posted 2013-01-17 06:57:06 and read 51913 times.

Something deep inside me desperately wants the new symbol to be slanted in the opposite direction.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: sw733
Posted 2013-01-17 06:57:20 and read 51900 times.

I'm sure it will grow on me, especially when I see it in person, but...not a huge fan on first take.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: cloudboy
Posted 2013-01-17 06:57:30 and read 51908 times.

The tail looks cheap. Like a charter airline. The front isn't bad. REminds (alot) of the old AMC logo.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: HermansCVR580
Posted 2013-01-17 06:57:48 and read 51914 times.

When did American merge with Clogan?

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: gulfstream650
Posted 2013-01-17 06:58:58 and read 52249 times.

I suggest someone does a Maggie Thatcher:

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: MSYtristar
Posted 2013-01-17 06:59:04 and read 51628 times.

I like the logo and I like the big AMERICAN titles...but that's pretty much it. If this was the absolute best they could come up with...well...that's pretty sad.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: qf002
Posted 2013-01-17 06:59:17 and read 51518 times.

I don't really get the point of the grey base (aside from trying too hard to pick up on the whole 'retro' thing). It doesn't do anything to improve the livery overall and just melts to whole plane into the background.

Tail is too busy.

But I'm still pretty neutral overall. Will wait and see...

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: dougbr2006
Posted 2013-01-17 06:59:29 and read 51550 times.

Just sat through watching the new American and it looks better in the video than on the 737 pic posted here and I got access before 09:00

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: einsteinboricua
Posted 2013-01-17 06:59:38 and read 52111 times.

Quoting plateman (Reply 126):
Predicted it before that the majority, if not all, on here would hate it no matter what it looked like since you hate everything new livery ever posted. Wish I were a betting man.

I don't hate new liveries, but this one leaves a lot to be desired. It doesn't look modern at all. Looks more like (as others have mentioned) Cubana de USA. It looks cheap (not saying Cubana's livery is cheap), but it's just...ugh...I would have preferred the logo on the tail.

However...flag on tail...is there something going on that we're not aware of yet?   

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: airtran737
Posted 2013-01-17 06:59:49 and read 51581 times.

What a horrendous livery. They really dropped the ball on this one. Going from an iconic livery to this is just bad.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: KarelXWB
Posted 2013-01-17 06:59:54 and read 52141 times.

http://i49.tinypic.com/w0q68y.png

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: gdg9
Posted 2013-01-17 06:59:55 and read 52724 times.

PHOTO:

http://tinyurl.com/dfwnewaa

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: richiemo
Posted 2013-01-17 07:00:04 and read 51326 times.

That's the worst thing I've ever seen. Proof once again that today's graphic designers did too many drugs in school and/or are trying to get attention rather than making something look good. That tail, really????? Looks like some cheap discount airline at best. I can't believe AA management actually looked at that and thought , hmmmm, that looks good. Makes Delta's ho-hum livery look first rate. My heart breaks. I loved the old livery.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: BC77008
Posted 2013-01-17 07:00:26 and read 51181 times.

The flag on the tail looks like something off a graphic t-shirt you'd find at Wal-mart over the July 4th holiday.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: wnflyguy
Posted 2013-01-17 07:01:00 and read 51125 times.

ugly sorry they could have done better.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: scbriml
Posted 2013-01-17 07:01:07 and read 51828 times.

Quoting BC77008 (Reply 110):
Please don't let that be the livery. Please, please, please for the love of God, NO!

Guess you're going to have to get used to it!   

I think it looks good "in the flesh" and I'm looking forward to hopefully catching the new livery when I visit Dallas in March.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: fun2fly
Posted 2013-01-17 07:01:34 and read 51178 times.

aa.com has a good video

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: Giancavia
Posted 2013-01-17 07:01:41 and read 51272 times.

Bloody hell Why cant one airline just do something right. I was actually impressed with the logo and then I see that tail and think it must be a joke? It looks like the paint is all warn off.. I cant believe anyone would think this was a good idea. Its embarrassing.. lol gosh!

RIP all liveries.. I cant remember the last time one was not a steaming pile of cow ****.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: Ychocky
Posted 2013-01-17 07:01:42 and read 52027 times.

Not as nice as:


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I'm sure this will grow on folks.

Since we have no AA mainline here at YOW, I have to ask. Will AA Eagle aircraft be painted en mass or only when needed?

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: NobleRT
Posted 2013-01-17 07:02:18 and read 50353 times.

That 737 picture is disgusting. I already want the eagle back.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: sw733
Posted 2013-01-17 07:02:29 and read 50236 times.

Upon viewing it a bit more, I think I love the body, but hate the tail. Especially in the video on AA.com where they line up multiple tails...it just looked tacky to me. But the fuselage is great.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: a300 american
Posted 2013-01-17 07:03:00 and read 50345 times.

maybe AA can do what Honda did when they launch the 2012 Civic. It was such a disaster, that they had to do an "emergency restyle" and relaunch the damn thing 1 year later with much better results.

Man, I can't stop looking at that tail and TRYING to like it.............

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: my1le
Posted 2013-01-17 07:03:42 and read 50174 times.

This scheme screams Colgan Airways ...

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: vfw614
Posted 2013-01-17 07:04:18 and read 49728 times.

Just one word: Horrible.

As a matter fo fact, two words: Extremeley horrible.

If they cannot keep the silver polish for whatever reason, they should have taken a more radical approach instead of painting 90% of the plan in a grey that tries to imitate the silver but is just boring, depressing and uninspried.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: finnishway
Posted 2013-01-17 07:04:35 and read 49592 times.

Quoting CF-CPI (Reply 103):
Compared to this, the new Finnair looks positively exciting.

I totally agree with you!

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: milesrich
Posted 2013-01-17 07:04:54 and read 49644 times.

The links on the AA.com website have crashed. I had the countdown plane on and shortly after it hit 00:00:00 an error message appeared. LOL.

The New American is very much like the OLD American

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: TWA902fly
Posted 2013-01-17 07:05:05 and read 49632 times.

So what will American Eagle look like?

'902

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: KFlyer
Posted 2013-01-17 07:05:18 and read 49598 times.

Had the flag extended to the bottom of the fuselage , it would have looked better...

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: plateman
Posted 2013-01-17 07:06:05 and read 49195 times.

Quoting richiemo (Reply 145):
That's the worst thing I've ever seen. Proof once again that today's graphic designers did too many drugs in school and/or are trying to get attention rather than making something look good. That tail, really????? Looks like some cheap discount airline at best. I can't believe AA management actually looked at that and thought , hmmmm, that looks good. Makes Delta's ho-hum livery look first rate. My heart breaks. I loved the old livery.

Wow, wow, wow. Off topic and making accusatory and inaccurate statements about people who work really, really, hard.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: braynfeeble
Posted 2013-01-17 07:06:42 and read 49083 times.

I love it! Very patriotic looking. Nice change!

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: mdavies06
Posted 2013-01-17 07:06:54 and read 49261 times.

Wow. Those shots of the 77W in the video looks stunning. The one where it climbs out of GIG for example (at 3:06 minute). Hope the real thing looks just as good.

[Edited 2013-01-17 07:13:09]

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: CF-CPI
Posted 2013-01-17 07:07:33 and read 49030 times.

Quoting milesrich (Reply 158):
The links on the AA.com website have crashed.

Right - now saying file not found.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: Western727
Posted 2013-01-17 07:07:43 and read 49050 times.

I was excited when the logo came out...then disappointed with the tail when I saw the livery here. The tail looks too busy and doesn't do the logo (or AA) justice. Sort of gives off a Cheapo Air feel.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: GCT64
Posted 2013-01-17 07:08:00 and read 49086 times.

"Reflecting the soaring spirit that is uniquely American, our new logo — the Flight Symbol — contains the eagle, the star, the "A," and refreshed shades of red, white and blue. Together, they represent a clean and modern update to the core icons of our company. "

That's what AA think.....

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: runway23
Posted 2013-01-17 07:08:14 and read 48576 times.

The logo on the tail would have looked great. Or a few stars on the tail, but this thing is just horrible.

A pity because the logo itself is really good.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: speedbird9
Posted 2013-01-17 07:08:24 and read 48554 times.

Quoting BD338 (Reply 54):

Sigh, a sign of the times we live in. We can't wait for anything announced formally anymore, we must get a sneak preview, a "stolen" image, a tweet, anything so we "know the story" before anyone else. Personally I'm looking forward to 9 CST to see the whole picture.

Very true. I covered my eyes as I scrolled down the page earlier. Personally I like the anticipation of watching the video.

IMHO I like the logo, I'm sad to see the current logo go. But I don't like the livery itself.

Personally I don't know if that were deter me from buying an American Airlines flight (after all that's what AA management want. There not in business just to keep a.nutters amused) especially considering there new products......not that I could afford anything other than Economy.

But we'll just have to see. If its unpopular with passengers (not just us) and effectively devalues the brand then AA management will just back paddle

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: DL WIDGET HEAD
Posted 2013-01-17 07:08:30 and read 48567 times.

Well, maybe when US Airways takes over they'll change it to something much better. Hard to believe that after nearly two years studying and planning for a new livery and branding that this is what they decided on.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: MountainFlyer
Posted 2013-01-17 07:09:04 and read 48522 times.

I love the new logo, but for some reason the tail design doesn't really tweak my fancy.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: Lufthansa
Posted 2013-01-17 07:09:20 and read 48554 times.

I'm with the "fail" crowd here.
They could have done some kind of stylised eagle head in a deep navy blue and ran the blue and read down the body some now with a silver top. Keep the font they picked etc. To me, this looks like something somebody would paint a freight train up looking like.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: FlyPIJets
Posted 2013-01-17 07:09:20 and read 48506 times.

Well.. I'll give it 30 years, maybe it will grow on me.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: na
Posted 2013-01-17 07:09:29 and read 49145 times.

Not very excited, but I do like it. Looks fresh. But while looking good on the 777 rendering, the real gray is dull on the 737 what makes it less attractive. The fuselage sadly is so empty like almost anywhere else recently. I give it 7,5 out of 10.

Quoting richiemo (Reply 145):
That tail, really????? Looks like some cheap discount airline at best.

Come on, the old gray tail was far worse.

Quoting jamesontheroad (Reply 35):
I'm sorry, but I'll mourn the passing of Helvetica - a truly classy, sold sans serif typeface.

The new type looks like Frutiger, cant say instantly if slightly modified. Also a Swiss typeface, a modern classic, and one I like more than the middle-of-the-road Helvetica. Its my own company typeface 

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: IL96M
Posted 2013-01-17 07:09:36 and read 49010 times.

Here it is...

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/39144395/NewAA.png

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: JD747
Posted 2013-01-17 07:09:44 and read 48546 times.

Nice logo, but I don't like the tail and the grey color. I don't like either the bare engines or winglets, too simple design..

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: ERJ170
Posted 2013-01-17 07:09:59 and read 48631 times.

Hahahaha.. I found it funny that most Americans from the US are like.. "uhmm.. NO!" and those from other parts of the world are like "yay! patriotic! very cool"...

Sorry, I just find this funny.. For those around hte world who like it, some Americans are willing to sell it to you so they can try again.. you can get it DIRT CHEAP!!!! like, FREE!!!!! In fact, we will give you $100US to take it OUT of our memories too!

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: scbriml
Posted 2013-01-17 07:10:26 and read 47878 times.

Quoting william (Reply 114):
No it didn't

Yes it did. The CEO said so! He gets to decide, nobody else.

Quoting william (Reply 114):
since you are from England take a look at Mclaren's paint scheme on their "composite" F1 car.

You mean the paint job that lasts less than two hours at an average speed of around 130mph? I think you need to find a better example.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: s.p.a.s.
Posted 2013-01-17 07:10:30 and read 48211 times.

Sorry, is that American Airlines or Cubana de Aviación?

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: QANTASvJet
Posted 2013-01-17 07:10:46 and read 47770 times.

Ok Iberia. You win. Yours is better.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: Tobias2702
Posted 2013-01-17 07:10:52 and read 47739 times.

Where are the stars? I mean, the stylized Amercian flag on the tail only has stripes. AA, are you serious? Proud to bear the name American? Come on...

The new livery: To me, a huge disappointment.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: DolphinAir747
Posted 2013-01-17 07:11:45 and read 47709 times.

The tail design does look very charter or low-cost...honestly I wish they had kept the old design, just with a painted gray body.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: KarelXWB
Posted 2013-01-17 07:12:18 and read 47954 times.

Quoting scbriml (Reply 148):
Guess you're going to have to get used to it!

Yes, soon it will be like this:

http://i45.tinypic.com/2cpaz5l.png

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: n797mx
Posted 2013-01-17 07:12:22 and read 47321 times.

Quoting milesrich (Reply 158):
The links on the AA.com website have crashed.

Err... word choice

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: rwsea
Posted 2013-01-17 07:13:16 and read 47259 times.

I like it, I think it's nice. As expected, it puts a modern face on the airline and a rebranding is essential as the airline comes out of bankruptcy, introduces new aircraft, and has a new product.

Much better, for example, than the "new" United livery, which is awful and does nothing to create any excitement for the brand.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: BD338
Posted 2013-01-17 07:13:34 and read 47297 times.

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 92):
I love the new livery. IMO, anyone who doesnt is stuck in the 80s or 90s. This is what liveries look like today, and this is the way modern companies are branded in 2013 America. Get used to it!

Logo fantastic, silver/grey even looks good but the tail...oh my, that does in fact remind me of something from the 80s but I can't quite place it, was it a t-shirt or sneaker design? either way, has the look that the front logo was designed by a professional designer and the tail design by their 6 year old kid. Suppose we'll get used to it, just such a change after the same design for 45 years.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: airdfw
Posted 2013-01-17 07:13:43 and read 47248 times.

I like it except I think the words 'American' should be darker color may be. It is much better than old one.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: mhkansan
Posted 2013-01-17 07:13:45 and read 47346 times.

I personally like the new logo and livery! Did anybody see the new American Eagle titles!?

The tail - its going to take time - like the DL livery - for it to be accepted, but its going to grow on me. Just say to say goodbye to such a beautiful, bare-metal livery with the Eagle and AA gracing the tail.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: einsteinboricua
Posted 2013-01-17 07:14:31 and read 46833 times.

On second thought, Tom's video managed to sell the look. I find it dull, but there's definitely space for the livery to grow on me.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: jgarrido
Posted 2013-01-17 07:14:31 and read 46815 times.

Perhaps it's not the design I would have picked but I don't think it's bad. But I like it if only for the fact they had the guts to almost completely break from their previous designs rather then a "modernization" of an old logo, something their domestic competition seems happy to keep doing. Maybe it's just me but it feels like for the past two decades or longer Delta has had a delta , United had a "U" (you can call it a tulip if makes you feel better) , and Continental had a circle/globe.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: CF-CPI
Posted 2013-01-17 07:14:32 and read 46836 times.

Quoting n797mx (Reply 183):
Err... word choice

OK ...OK... the server's battery overheated. Is that better?

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: ERJ170
Posted 2013-01-17 07:15:12 and read 46825 times.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 182):

OMG!! That looks like an acid trip with ectasy overtones and LSD additives! Good LAWD!

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: SpaceshipDC10
Posted 2013-01-17 07:15:37 and read 46804 times.

I understand it's not an easy task to go from a classic livery to a new one, but frankly I'm not impressed or inspired by that new livery. It looks cheap.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: MountainFlyer
Posted 2013-01-17 07:16:04 and read 46862 times.

Quoting mhkansan (Reply 187):
The tail - its going to take time - like the DL livery - for it to be accepted

The DL tail looks like artwork compared to fingerpaint on the new AA tail.

It appears to me just scanning the thread that probably 70%+ seem to hate the new tail design. How did the AA designers not see this?

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: qf002
Posted 2013-01-17 07:16:21 and read 46460 times.

Quoting TWA902fly (Reply 159):

There's a photo of the titles on the rebranding website -- same sort of thing with the logo but the titles run underneath the windows rather than being billboard style. Imagine the tail will be the same.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: AA787
Posted 2013-01-17 07:17:48 and read 46425 times.

I think the Logo is great. I think the tail is good. I think the two of them together is incongruous. The logo is rounded, soft, subtle. The tail is firm and rigid. They don't work well together. It is too bad.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: virgincrew
Posted 2013-01-17 07:18:30 and read 46536 times.

I hate to say this about any new livery..... but it looks very cheap !!!

Personally for me, it's not a livery for a Nations Flag Carrier !

Still think this livery is fantastic....

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: gdg9
Posted 2013-01-17 07:19:18 and read 46088 times.

This is appallingly garish. What a disappointment. The logo is nice but the painted livery is terrible.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: woodreau
Posted 2013-01-17 07:19:22 and read 46093 times.

Quoting Ychocky (Reply 151):

Since we have no AA mainline here at YOW, I have to ask. Will AA Eagle aircraft be painted en mass or only when needed?


I believe the newamerican website had a pic of eagle's new livery painted on the expressjet's crj-200's that will go into service on feb 15 in dfw.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: MountainFlyer
Posted 2013-01-17 07:20:10 and read 46043 times.

Quoting AA787 (Reply 195):
The logo is rounded, soft, subtle. The tail is firm and rigid.

  

The tail art doesn't blend at all into the body. It looks like a cheap decal.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: AirframeAS
Posted 2013-01-17 07:20:17 and read 46042 times.

I'm disappointed. They could have put the new logo on the tail instead of on the fuselage. I think UA's globe livery still looks a hell of a lot better.

  

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: irregking
Posted 2013-01-17 07:20:19 and read 46095 times.

The second I saw it the first thing I thought was: "Cubana!"


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Photo © Manuel Mueller

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: PC12Fan
Posted 2013-01-17 07:20:28 and read 45969 times.

After all that hype - that's it?!?!

Glad it won't be wide spread for a while. I'll get to enjoy the current livery until this show up.   

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: STT757
Posted 2013-01-17 07:20:46 and read 45619 times.

Quoting a300 american (Reply 112):
Logo works. Very nice. Tail section is just a disaster..............



I agree the tail is terrible, the logo is okay but as mentioned is very reminiscent of Grey Hound or the Postal Service.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: milemaster
Posted 2013-01-17 07:21:27 and read 45905 times.

Quoting BD338 (Reply 185):
Logo fantastic, silver/grey even looks good but the tail...oh my, that does in fact remind me of something from the 80s but I can't quite place it, was it a t-shirt or sneaker design?



Richard Simmons shorts?

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: Skyguy
Posted 2013-01-17 07:21:52 and read 45590 times.

Quoting BC77008 (Reply 146):

The flag on the tail looks like something off a graphic t-shirt you'd find at Wal-mart over the July 4th holiday.

Agree!!!

I'm not averse to the US flag being the basis for the tail but the way it looks right now is bewildering. All else is good, but that tail at the moment just does not look right.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: Mir
Posted 2013-01-17 07:23:41 and read 45850 times.

The logo's not bad.

The tail, on the other hand...yuck. Seriously. Who thought that would be a good idea?   

-Mir

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Username: jalapeno
Posted 2013-01-17 07:25:38 and read 45705 times.

Another pic I took of her coming this morning from my phone:

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: dergay
Posted 2013-01-17 07:25:47 and read 45242 times.

Quoting gdg9 (Reply 197):
This is appallingly garish. What a disappointment. The logo is nice but the painted livery is terrible.

I think it looks sooooooooo American!

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: JBirdAV8r
Posted 2013-01-17 07:25:58 and read 45599 times.

I went from "What were they thinking?!" to "I rather like it" in about twenty minutes.

There's a stylized flag on the tail.

The branding in general is clean, fresh, modern, professional, sophisticated. I quite like it.

There's a stylized flag on the tail.

I like the implementation on the American Eagle CRJ.

There's a stylized flag on the tail....  

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: thrufru
Posted 2013-01-17 07:26:06 and read 44859 times.

Obviously, everything on the website is running terribly slowly, so there really isn't a lot to be seen yet. I would note that based on the picture of the 738, I'm not a big fan (yet). Interestingly, though, in the computer generated images that AA has on their home page of the 773, the fuselage appears much crisper in it's coloration and doesn't look too terrible. Upon seeing the "icon" more thoroughly as well, it's more likely to grow on me. Unfortunately, as of right now, I'm a bit underwhelmed.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: flyfree727
Posted 2013-01-17 07:26:22 and read 45253 times.

I was EXACTLY right!!!
please read my post from the FIRST "aa livery " thread.
1/2 will love it.. 1/2 will hate it.. THAT was for sure!!!

   

AA ORD

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: baldwin471
Posted 2013-01-17 07:26:26 and read 44864 times.

Horrible. People say Eurowhite liveries are bad!

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: cmb320
Posted 2013-01-17 07:27:49 and read 44519 times.

Where are people seeing the CRJ? Haven't found it on any of the sites.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: Jambost
Posted 2013-01-17 07:27:50 and read 44850 times.

Different it is but I am starting to like it,
blandish but sleek fuselage with a striking tail which to me says a nice modern livery.
I do think they could have integrated the fuselage to the tail better but It is nothing to complain about in my opinion.   

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: EaglePower83
Posted 2013-01-17 07:27:53 and read 44507 times.

I don't understand everyone hating on the tail.
I think the tail is the best part.
Asside from a super-stylized eagle head in the logo, I don't understand the logo.
It looks like either a peeling sticker or an ocean wave.
What are the red and blue bars? Wings? Or just bars?
I don't get it.

But, I don't hate it.

It IS way BETTER than United's livery, that's for SURE.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: CF-CPI
Posted 2013-01-17 07:28:32 and read 44195 times.

Quoting Mir (Reply 206):
The tail, on the other hand...yuck. Seriously. Who thought that would be a good idea?

Looking back, United's Battleship colors didn't quite handle the tail vs. fuselage properly either.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: 71Zulu
Posted 2013-01-17 07:28:33 and read 44219 times.

Wow, I am shocked at how awful this turned out to be.

Sorry AA, major fail but luckily the average passenger couldn't care less.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: shamrock350
Posted 2013-01-17 07:28:43 and read 44195 times.

The tail is a mess, imagine that in a line up at the airport! The new logo is nice enough on its own but looks awkward positioned on the fuselage and it's nowhere near as distinctive as the eagle, should have just given that a refresh.

Quite a disappointment overall.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: JAAlbert
Posted 2013-01-17 07:28:51 and read 44193 times.

Well ... (sigh) .... I don't see this livery lasting the next 40 years.

I'm not crazy about that tail. And what is retro about this design?

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: 757gb
Posted 2013-01-17 07:29:22 and read 44176 times.

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 207):

I take it you didn't like it?

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Username: toobz
Posted 2013-01-17 07:29:35 and read 44166 times.

Hate the tail. Like the body though.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: Ben175
Posted 2013-01-17 07:29:59 and read 44198 times.

This livery actually has alot of potential, it just looks so unfinished. The flag should've extended down to the fuselage and morphed into a Jet Airways-esque cheatline/ribbon. That would've looked gorgeous.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: crAAzy
Posted 2013-01-17 07:31:12 and read 43866 times.

OK here's a question I got from watching the videos ... is it possible that we could have a combination of looks in the fleet with some planes fully painted in the new livery while others remain polished metal with the new livery?

This would be the most economical and quickest way to make the change across the entire fleet.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: kasimir
Posted 2013-01-17 07:32:13 and read 43540 times.

Let me be as neutral as I can and share my opinion as a former concept designer in my early years... The logo looks pretty good and does the job of keeping the identity of AA, but making it more modern and sleeker. The typography is OK, if it was me I would make it a tad tighter, meaning that the letters should be a little closer to each other.
Now the livery, oh boy, I personally don't like it at all, but it also doesn't do the new logo any justice and doesn't affiliate with the logo very well... I somehow have the feeling, that they put 90% of time, effort and budget in the concept of the new logo and rushed through with the livery design. While the livery looks better on the 77W, it looks completely misplaced on the 738...
Its somehow a little sad, because the logo gives so much potential for a very nice and sleek livery, its disappointing that they came up with this...

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: AviRaider
Posted 2013-01-17 07:32:28 and read 43515 times.

I could stomach that alot better had the blended in the traditional cheatline into the tail logo stripes. Come on American, you probably spent alot of money and design time on this when there are people out there creating gorgeous liveries out of their basements for free.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: tjwgrr
Posted 2013-01-17 07:33:48 and read 44116 times.

Chill out everyone..... the new AA livery will be short-lived- soon they'll all look like this anyways:

http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/photos/big/00012337.jpg
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Username: KarelXWB
Posted 2013-01-17 07:34:54 and read 43776 times.

Another computer render:

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BA0lU8HCEAAocM-.jpg:large

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: mdavies06
Posted 2013-01-17 07:35:49 and read 43615 times.

Guys, don't feel too bad about the tail. The tails on the A320 IMO will look smaller relative to say 737MAX for example.

Just make sure AA don't go and order the 748 and A380. The tail on those metals are large.  

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: LFutia
Posted 2013-01-17 07:36:06 and read 43174 times.

I don't like it one bit. When i pee my name in the snow, it looks better than the new AA livery.

Leo/ORD

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: UALWN
Posted 2013-01-17 07:37:07 and read 42899 times.

I like the body quite a lot. The logo ain't bad. But the tail.... It looks cheap, and it doesn't blend or otherwise mix at all with the body. Overall, a fail grade, I'm afraid.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: martinrpo1
Posted 2013-01-17 07:37:21 and read 42876 times.

I really like it. It is definitely strong and hard to get accustomed to, but the more I see it the more I like it. Unlike many of the liveries recently created for other airlines, this livery is truly ICONIC and makes a statement.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: AABB777
Posted 2013-01-17 07:38:59 and read 42590 times.

My thoughts: Love the Eagle next to "American" and the tail is certainly growing on me. It's a very fresh update to an iconic brand. In fact the flag on the tail resembles a Jasper Johns flag.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: CF-CPI
Posted 2013-01-17 07:39:23 and read 42911 times.

Quoting LFutia (Reply 231):
When i pee my name in the snow, it looks better than the new AA livery

Don't do that ..... it would be Billboard Eurowhite.
 

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: Braniff747SP
Posted 2013-01-17 07:39:43 and read 42570 times.

Quoting richierich (Reply 102):

Am I the only one that sees "Greyhound" when I see the logo?

I see Carnival Cruise Lines.


Edit:

I will say that I'm impressed with the video. That was well done... and the livery looks nice in the computer-generated airshots. I eagerly await a real image of the airplane.

[Edited 2013-01-17 07:46:26]

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: willyj
Posted 2013-01-17 07:40:21 and read 42310 times.

That is really awful. AA's livery, although dated, was classic and attractive. I don't understand who thought this looked good - at all. It looks unfinished, and the tail is not nice.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: AirCanadaA330
Posted 2013-01-17 07:40:23 and read 42266 times.

I am not a fan of the tail....I think they could have done something a lot better with that. The Font looks pretty sharp though.

Quoting plateman (Reply 126):
Predicted it before that the majority, if not all, on here would hate it no matter what it looked like since you hate everything new livery ever posted. Wish I were a betting man.

Im not sure that everyone hates most if not all new livery's lately. Just most of them havent been that good. In this case here, the old colours of American were classic, and the new colours dont really seem to work. I for one am going to miss the Eagle on the tail.

Quoting richiemo (Reply 145):
That tail, really????? Looks like some cheap discount airline at best.

Agreed. I expected something better from AMR.

Quoting ouboy79 (Reply 124):
Tail design is horrible. US Airways...please fix this. LOL

Oh god no, thats one merger I hope never happens.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: n797mx
Posted 2013-01-17 07:41:57 and read 42737 times.



This is more like it

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Username: qf002
Posted 2013-01-17 07:42:19 and read 42011 times.

The renderings all make it look very silver... Do we have any live photos of the 77W? I imagine it'll be rather a lot darker in real life.

Quoting cmb320 (Reply 214):

On the newamerican website go down to the flipping photos (the first slide is the logo) and underneath there are 5 boxes/labels -- select the furthest on the right ("what's next") then go to the second photo. It's not the whole plane, just the titles...

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: luv2fly
Posted 2013-01-17 07:43:10 and read 41977 times.

Quoting virgincrew (Reply 196):
Personally for me, it's not a livery for a Nations Flag Carrier !

We don't have a Nations Flag Carrier.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: AA94
Posted 2013-01-17 07:44:05 and read 41911 times.

Here's images of the new branding on loyalty cards, luggage tags, menus, etc ...

http://blog.racingwinds.com/2013/01/17/aa-liveblog/

I think AA really did a good job on the logo. On all the individual components of the branding, the logo looks modern, clean, and really pretty classy if you ask me.

I would have liked to see the logo on the tail, leaving the fuselage with just the "American" title. I suspect the flag will grow on me, but it's a bit jarring to see the giant American flag graphic on a livery that was previously so clean.

[Edited 2013-01-17 07:46:17]

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: commavia
Posted 2013-01-17 07:44:44 and read 41700 times.

The tail really is unfortunate - that's definitely going to take some getting used to.

And it's made all the more unfortunate given that now, after scanning through all the other images of different style elements and branding features on airport signage, premium service items, etc., I must say that they really did an exceptional job on the new logo itself - it looks great, and it particularly looks great both in color and just the silver-grayscale, and in multiple different venues. I really, really like it.

All in all, of everything I've seen today, that tail really is the only thing I don't like.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: KarelXWB
Posted 2013-01-17 07:45:53 and read 42218 times.

Quoting qf002 (Reply 238):
The renderings all make it look very silver... Do we have any live photos of the 77W? I imagine it'll be rather a lot darker in real life.

The 77W's are not fully painted yet.



(uploaded by http://www.flickr.com/photos/aadc10137/8381527686/)

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: NADC10Fan
Posted 2013-01-17 07:46:01 and read 41729 times.

A tail that's done up as a stylized U.S. flag? On the nominal U.S. flag carrier (i.e. AMERICAN Airlines)? Go figure ...

I like it. It's instant, solid recognition right along with the big billboard (which works very nicely on the shiny chrome) and logo. A good start for them.

Good luck to the new AA!

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: fun2fly
Posted 2013-01-17 07:47:08 and read 41348 times.

Quoting UALWN (Reply 230):
I like the body quite a lot. The logo ain't bad. But the tail.... It looks cheap, and it doesn't blend or otherwise mix at all with the body. Overall, a fail grade, I'm afraid.

Totally agree and there is so much more they could have done w/the tail (like IB did).

Quoting LFutia (Reply 229):
I don't like it one bit. When i pee my name in the snow, it looks better than the new AA livery.

Now, that's funny and a joke that only a snowbird gets.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: CoachClass
Posted 2013-01-17 07:47:11 and read 41344 times.

I don't see where the actual small US flag is painted or decaled on.

I like the fuselage but not crazy about the tail; I agree with above comments...it looks like an AA/US merger by the tail. I also agree that when you first saw the new Delta tail design, you knew that that DL/NW was close in hand.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: na
Posted 2013-01-17 07:48:27 and read 41100 times.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 227):
Another computer render:

...showing the 777 in metallic paint rather than the dull grey which would have been more real!
Shame they didnt choose silver like the last NWA livery.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: flightsimboy
Posted 2013-01-17 07:48:52 and read 41031 times.

Quoting LH526 (Reply 101):
So 'stars and stripes' turned 'stripes and stripes'?

They should have had stars and stripes...would look so good...How PIA incorporated the flag on the tail.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: AA94
Posted 2013-01-17 07:48:56 and read 41224 times.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 242):

Correct, but one 777 was flown to VCV yesterday, presumably for painting. I assume that this a/c will be the one operating the DFW-GRU flight on 31JAN.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL9708

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: fun2fly
Posted 2013-01-17 07:49:25 and read 41061 times.

No one likes the tail, but everyone liked the Peter Max CO777?

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: MSPNWA
Posted 2013-01-17 07:52:54 and read 40474 times.

The logo is pretty good. I like it. The livery isn't as bad as I was expecting. At least it's different and sets it apart. We knew that nothing would truly replace that classic livery.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: martinair50
Posted 2013-01-17 07:55:10 and read 40196 times.

I like it. Only the eagle should stand out more instead of the blue and red part.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: PA727
Posted 2013-01-17 07:55:17 and read 40205 times.

Cannot imagine how difficult an undertaking this re-brand had to be given history, expectations and timing. Obviously, all opinions are personal, but I feel like the team responsible hit 98% of it out of the park.

The logo, the re-brand for all collateral, signage, fonts etc. is beautiful. It's just that tail, it looks like a fish out of water. My hope is that I feel that way only because it is a radical change and that it will grow on me.

The only other nit I have to pick is with the billboard American title. From the 737 pictures in the post, I get the sense that the lettering is not wide or bold enough and that the windows obscure it somewhat. Particularly in the picture of the approach at DFW, it looks like the windows keep American from being read clearly.

Again, all thoughts are just personal. I love the brand and all associated with it, but do think the livery could stand to be cleaned up a bit with the tail perhaps softened and the billboard made bolder.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: TWA772LR
Posted 2013-01-17 07:56:27 and read 39919 times.

It's bold, edgy, and modern. I like it!

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: SpaceshipDC10
Posted 2013-01-17 07:56:31 and read 39955 times.

Quoting fun2fly (Reply 249):

Very easily I choose the Peter Max 777, especially since it was unique.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: davs5032
Posted 2013-01-17 07:57:19 and read 39930 times.

Quoting Western727 (Reply 165):
I was excited when the logo came out...then disappointed with the tail when I saw the livery here. The tail looks too busy and doesn't do the logo (or AA) justice. Sort of gives off a Cheapo Air feel.

I agree...seems to be the thoughts of the majority. If they had just incorporated the logo into the tail, it could have been a great livery, IMO. Maybe it will grow on me, but disappointed at the moment. Something tells me this one won't last 15 years.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: TakeOff
Posted 2013-01-17 07:57:26 and read 39944 times.

I know I'm (almost) alone on this one but I think IT LOOKS GREAT. It's fresh and bold. Unabashedly American. And I love the evolution of the eagle that looks like a turning page. I've never flown American but as an advertising creative director, I have to say, hats off to the design team.

TakeOff

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: tymnbalewne
Posted 2013-01-17 07:57:54 and read 39945 times.

So, I see AirFrance and Pepsi had a Cuban lovechild??

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: FriendlySkies
Posted 2013-01-17 07:57:54 and read 39941 times.

Honestly, the tail is growing on me fast...and I do find it very retro (has sort of a streamline thing going for it).

But, the grey color is AWFUL! They should have at the very least used a NW/Aeroflot style reflective paint instead of that drab military grey.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: ckfred
Posted 2013-01-17 07:57:59 and read 39951 times.

First, there is nothing on the winglets. You would think they would put the logo on the winglet.

Second, while I like the new logo, from a distance, it looks a more like a stylized homage to the Texas Lone Star flag than a stylized eagle with red and blue wings.

Third, the tail is awful. It looks too much like the tail of George Bush's campaign plane in 2000. I'm sure someone got the idea from the stylized Union Jack that is part of BA's livery. Frankly, the logo would work better on the tail.

Fourth, are there any renderings of the new livery on the MD-80, 757, 767, and 787? And, how will this look on the Embrears and Canadairs?

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: garpd
Posted 2013-01-17 07:58:00 and read 40295 times.

I said this would create ripples in the force  

When I first clapped eyes on it, I thought I was being sent something from modifiedairliners.
The image I have doesn't have the logo on it and the titles are further forward. Obviously they decided they wanted to show off the new logo.

Now that I've seen the final thing. I have an idea. Will post it later.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: Lufthansa
Posted 2013-01-17 07:58:57 and read 39681 times.

I thought of a simple fix for the tail, continue the blue stripes all the way across the top half, and then extend the red and white strips all the way down and around the aircraft in line with the tail (the same way the red wraps around qantas body below the tail)

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: boeing773ER
Posted 2013-01-17 07:59:44 and read 39649 times.

I like the logo, but I absolutely hate the tail. It is tacky and looks like someone came up with this in a couple of hours.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: travelin man
Posted 2013-01-17 07:59:46 and read 39653 times.

I like it a lot and my partner (who doesn't really care about airlines or planes) thinks its great too.

FWIW.

I think silver would have been better than grey, but I do think it's way better than the previous old /tired livery. Hopefully they'll be able to paint the planes expeditiously and it won't take 5+ years like other airlines who won't be named.

(Cough Delta cough)...

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: DLBOIFIN
Posted 2013-01-17 08:00:34 and read 39411 times.

Cubana meets Air France! Not a big fan of it, but I guess I'll survive!

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: apjung
Posted 2013-01-17 08:00:40 and read 39555 times.

I guess everybody's jumping in on the Clearview Font trend
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clearview_(typeface)

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: pvjin
Posted 2013-01-17 08:01:06 and read 39452 times.

Quoting CF-CPI (Reply 103):
Compared to this, the new Finnair looks positively exciting.

Hah I agree, the Finnair A330 that carried me back to Helsinki sure looked way better with than this poor 737, AY's new livery has at least a lot of beautiful natural white on it instead of ugly grey.

Especially tail looks messy.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: mayor
Posted 2013-01-17 08:02:00 and read 39416 times.

Quoting jgarrido (Reply 189):
Maybe it's just me but it feels like for the past two decades or longer Delta has had a delta ,

If they were to eliminate the "Widget" entirely, they'd have an enormous riot on their hands, from the employees and the retirees. The employees managed to get the Widget changed from the "soft" version back to the original style.



From what I've seen on here, the new design on the tail looks like something out of an airline distaster movie. The title should say "TransGlobal Airways" or something like that.

Topic: RE: OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today!
Username: Luxair747SP
Posted 2013-01-17 08:02:45 and read 39496 times.

Please continue here:

OFFICIAL: New AA Livery Today! Part 2 (by Luxair747SP Jan 17 2013 in Civil Aviation)


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