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Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: leftyboarder
Posted 2013-01-24 23:42:30 and read 19456 times.

We all hear the comment regarding how TK announces a long wishlist of destinations that never materalizes. This year we might see that quashed a bit, with 10 destinations off the list now firmed and open for reservation and more obviously coming soon.

The following is a recap of firmed but yet to start destinations:

IST-KUL from Apr 25
TK060 IST0115 – 1650KUL 343 x257
TK061 KUL2315 – 0535+1IST 343 x257

IST-MLE-CMB (MLE already flown) from Feb 1
TK730 IST0015 – 1100MLE1215 – 1415CMB 330 3
TK730 IST0110 – 1155MLE1310 – 1510CMB 330 x236

TK731 CMB2140 – 2240MLE0010+1 – 0545+1IST 330 x37

IST-DLA-LBV-IST (DLA already flown) from Jan 31
TK591 IST1745 – 2355DLA0055+1 – 0210+1LBV0310+1 – 1130+1IST 739 247

IST-IAH from Apr 1
TK033 IST1305 – 1805IAH 77W x347
TK034 IAH1950 – 1555+1IST 77W x347

IST-SCQ from May 21
TK1319 IST0900 – 1245SCQ 319 257
TK1320 SCQ1350 – 1915IST 319 257

IST-TLL-VNO-IST from Jun 11
TK1355 IST1100 – 1420TLL1520 – 1645VNO1745 – 2010IST 319 246

IST-CND from Jun 7
TK1049 IST1305 – 1415CND 319 357
TK1050 CND1515 – 1625IST 319 357

IST-SZG from May 21
TK1381 IST1215 – 1345SZG 738 x357
TK1382 SZG1445 – 1805IST 738 x357


IST-LUX from Jun 25
TK1353 IST0915 – 1145LUX 738 7
TK1353 IST0915 – 1145LUX 319 235

TK1354 LUX1245 – 1700IST 738 7
TK1354 LUX1245 – 1700IST 319 235

And there are new flights from SAW to MXP, LGW, AMS, CDG, VIE, each daily.

In addition, there are upped frequencies across the board.

Remaining destinations that TK has expressed intentions to serve:

Luxor
Aswan
Gassim
Rotterdam
Abha
Malta
Asmara
Marseille
Kharkiv
Luanda
Abuja
Kano
Caracas
Mexico
Boston
Havanna
San Francisco
Montreal
Njamena
Juba
Katmandu
Masar-i-Sharif
Friedrichshafen
Lankaran
Bogota
Aqaba
Bamako
Krakow

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: leftyboarder
Posted 2013-01-25 01:42:05 and read 18999 times.

Oh, and the source is airlineroute.net, before my post gets deleted...

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: caliatenza
Posted 2013-01-25 02:44:12 and read 18738 times.

Still no BLR on that list  ...Im still holding out hope!

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: kaitak
Posted 2013-01-25 05:08:15 and read 18267 times.

Quoting caliatenza (Reply 2):
Still no BLR on that list ...Im still holding out hope!

I heard they were trying to get some new Indian points added, but the Indian govt was holding off approval. Evidently, India is seeing TK as another TK/QR and it trying to protect its own carriers.

Incidentally, any confirmation that some of the Jet 777s are going back to TK?

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: A388
Posted 2013-01-25 05:08:47 and read 18259 times.

Quoting leftyboarder (Thread starter):
Remaining destinations that TK has expressed intentions to serve:

Luxor
Aswan
Gassim
Rotterdam
Abha
Malta
Asmara
Marseille
Kharkiv
Luanda
Abuja
Kano
Caracas
Mexico
Boston
Havanna
San Francisco
Montreal
Njamena
Juba
Katmandu
Masar-i-Sharif
Friedrichshafen
Lankaran
Bogota
Aqaba
Bamako
Krakow

Where is MIA?

A388

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: leftyboarder
Posted 2013-01-25 05:21:45 and read 18184 times.

Quoting A388 (Reply 4):
Where is MIA?

Never formally announced, only rumors / hot air.

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: DTW2HYD
Posted 2013-01-25 05:23:40 and read 18174 times.

Do they have any plans for DTW.

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: jetsetter629
Posted 2013-01-25 05:35:39 and read 18092 times.

Quoting leftyboarder (Thread starter):
IST-MLE-CMB (MLE already flown) from Feb 1

Will they sell flights between MLE and CMB?

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: jfidler
Posted 2013-01-25 06:24:53 and read 17896 times.

Quoting leftyboarder (Thread starter):
This year we might see that quashed a bit, with 10 destinations off the list now firmed and open for reservation and more obviously coming soon.

I went to TK's US website and tried to book a flight to TLL in June, and it didn't even recognize TLL as a destination.

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: lightsaber
Posted 2013-01-25 06:43:11 and read 17666 times.

Quoting kaitak (Reply 3):
Evidently, India is seeing TK as another TK/QR and it trying to protect its own carriers.

Not surprising. I wouldn't be surprised if TK being part of *A also has something to do with it...

It will be interesting. Of the 'regional airlines' that grow quickly, TK will certainly be at the top for growth.

Lightsaber

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: 330lover
Posted 2013-01-25 06:50:20 and read 17544 times.

Quoting jetsetter629 (Reply 7):
Will they sell flights between MLE and CMB?

System says:

TK 730 MONDAY 11 FEB 13
---------------------------------------------------------------
BRD TIME T D/I OFF TIME T D/I FLY/GROUND EQP E
IST 0110 I I MLE 1155 I 7:45/ 1:15 330 E
MLE 1310 I CMB 1510 I 1:30 330 E
---------------------------------------------------------------
TOTAL FLYING TIME IST - CMB 9:15
TOTAL GROUND TIME IST - CMB 1:15
TOTAL JOURNEY TIME IST - CMB 10:30
---------------------------------------------------------------
TRC TEXT
A MLECMB NO BOARDING THIS CITY


So no, no sales on the short flight.

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: globalflyer
Posted 2013-01-25 06:50:36 and read 17538 times.

TK mentioned ATL as a tag on from IAD but it never happened...

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: WildcatYXU
Posted 2013-01-25 07:13:17 and read 17234 times.

Krakow? Yes, please  

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: leftyboarder
Posted 2013-01-25 07:26:02 and read 17069 times.

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 12):

AFAIK LO is against TK starting KRK and the current bilateral gives them the power to stall things...

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: WildcatYXU
Posted 2013-01-25 07:55:38 and read 16744 times.

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 13):
AFAIK LO is against TK starting KRK and the current bilateral gives them the power to stall things...

Darn, that's bad news. I wonder why would LO block TK's desire to fly to KRK. Do they have a KRK - IST flight?

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: Yakamoz
Posted 2013-01-25 08:10:04 and read 16594 times.

Happy to see more confirmed destinations today. 28 left in the wish list.

31.01. Libreville
01.02. Colombo (over Male)
01.04. Houston
25.04. Kuala Lumpur
21.05. Santiago de Compostela
28.05. Salzburg
07.06. Constanta
11.06. Vilnius-Tallinn
25.06. Luxemburg

After these destinations started, TK will fly to 103 countries and 228 destinations.

As I mentioned before in the Turkish Aviation January Topic, the following destinations could be in long-term future on the wish list:

Australia / New Zealand

Melbourne
Sydney
Perth
Auckland


North America

Vancouver
Calgary
San Juan (when Havana will be a success, why not?)
Miami
Seattle
Atlanta
Denver
Philadelphia
Dallas


South America

Rio de Janeiro
Quito
Lima
Santiago de Chile


Asia

Manila
Taipeh
Nagoya
Bandar Seri Begawen
Phnom Penh
Lahore
Peshawar
Bangalore
Hyderabad
Kochi
Chengdu
Shenyang
Xiamen
Xi'an


Africa

Marrakech
Gaborone
Harare
Windhoek
Lusaka
Durban


Europe

Bratislava
Graz
Dubrovnik
Bordeaux
Dresden
Dortmund
Reykjavik
Florence
Verona
Alicante
Seville
Bergen
Gdansk
Katowice
Porto
Novosibirsk
Perm
Samara
Yekaterinburg
Glasgow
Newcastle

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: amax1977
Posted 2013-01-25 09:00:51 and read 16089 times.

Good luck, TK! You can do it!

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: dtw9
Posted 2013-01-25 09:26:53 and read 15863 times.

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 5):
Never formally announced, only rumors / hot air.

A little more than just rumors and hot air

http://www.thestreet.com/story/11690...irlines-will-boost-us-service.html

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: Yakamoz
Posted 2013-01-25 09:51:43 and read 15598 times.

Quoting dtw9 (Reply 17):

Thanks for the source. CEO Temel Kotil said that the weakest region of TK is North America. So they would like to boost it in future. Therefore there are Boston and San Francisco on the wish list. I think there will be 2-3 more in the next years.

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: ASA
Posted 2013-01-25 10:30:05 and read 15242 times.

Quoting A388 (Reply 4):
Where is MIA?
Quoting DTW2HYD (Reply 6):

Do they have any plans for DTW.
Quoting globalflyer (Reply 11):

TK mentioned ATL as a tag on from IAD but it never happened...

As we a-nutters know, TK loves to put some "wishlist" years before they actually materialize, or sometimes not. So unless and until, they are loaded in GDS and bookable ... you can't be sure. That's why we, TK fans, are so excited to see when the list gets shorter and new destinations are "officially" announced. 

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: caliatenza
Posted 2013-01-25 12:14:57 and read 14442 times.

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 9):

Not surprising. I wouldn't be surprised if TK being part of *A also has something to do with it...

It will be interesting. Of the 'regional airlines' that grow quickly, TK will certainly be at the top for growth.

Lightsaber

Its not surprising to me either. Hopefully TK does launch BLR sooner than later...but for now their codeshare with AI is probably sufficient for the time being.

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: flyyul
Posted 2013-01-25 13:21:47 and read 13966 times.

YYC-IST? Now i've seen it all!

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: ktachiya
Posted 2013-01-25 15:27:12 and read 13220 times.

At least the TK Japan branch has been stating IST-NGO for several years now and never materialized.

It sounds like IST is completely over its capaity before it can ever materialize.

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: aeroblogger
Posted 2013-01-25 15:31:42 and read 13194 times.

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 9):
Not surprising. I wouldn't be surprised if TK being part of *A also has something to do with it...

Doubtful. TK (along with SA) supported AI's *A bid to the very end. TK and AI have already increased the scope of their codeshare agreement twice, and will soon once again (next 3-4 months as per current plans)

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: lewis
Posted 2013-01-25 15:40:40 and read 13110 times.

I remember reading some articles that TK was considering flights to Ioannina, Greece (LGIO). Any chance of that happening anytime soon?

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: UA191
Posted 2013-01-25 19:14:33 and read 12558 times.

Anybody ever think TK will consider MCO?

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: ETinCaribe
Posted 2013-01-25 19:43:46 and read 12509 times.

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 5):
Never formally announced, only rumors / hot air.

I am also waiting... Solidly on the wish list for now. MIA is not going to be easy for them.

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 15):
South America

How about BOG and PTY? BOG as a tag to another city due to elevation. Plus these are *A hubs...

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: YVRLTN
Posted 2013-01-25 19:44:57 and read 12765 times.

Somewhat related question, but is there any formula as to when the A32S or 737 families are used on certain routes? 319 or 738 I can somewhat understand in specific cases as they are different capacities, but is there any reasons why a 738 be used vs a A320 for example or is it just random?

Quoting leftyboarder (Thread starter):
IST-LUX from Jun 25
TK1353 IST0915 – 1145LUX 738 7
TK1353 IST0915 – 1145LUX 319 235

LUX for example is operated by both, why not 319 & 320 or 73G & 738?

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: SCQ83
Posted 2013-01-25 19:51:49 and read 12801 times.

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 27):
Somewhat related question, but is there any formula as to when the A32S or 737 families are used on certain routes? 319 or 738 I can somewhat understand in specific cases as they are different capacities, but is there any reasons why a 738 be used vs a A320 for example or is it just random?

Probably not. I used to fly MAD-IST-MAD quite often, and to me it looked like any narrow body (A319/320 or B73X; they only fly widebodies to Spain for BCN) would operate that route depending on the day or frequency for apparently no other reason. Certainly TK could try to homogenize their fleet (they also seem to fly any other available wide body).

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: Mozart
Posted 2013-01-25 22:29:42 and read 12345 times.

Impressive. TK is now one of only a few of the large network carriers that in their international network (intend to) fly to places that I actually need to look up on a map to find out where they are (Lankaran - didn't know that place even existed!).

How is TK doing financially? It is always excited to see a quality carrier expand to so many places, but can they manage that growth, operationally and financially?

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: liftsifter
Posted 2013-01-25 22:38:15 and read 12292 times.

Now I just wait for 777 to ORD. I'd really like to try TK's premium economy product soon.

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: caliatenza
Posted 2013-01-26 01:53:59 and read 11914 times.

Quoting aeroblogger (Reply 23):

Doubtful. TK (along with SA) supported AI's *A bid to the very end. TK and AI have already increased the scope of their codeshare agreement twice, and will soon once again (next 3-4 months as per current plans)

Does this mean TK will not add any more destinations in India?

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: Pe@rson
Posted 2013-01-26 04:17:44 and read 11743 times.

Quoting Mozart (Reply 29):
How is TK doing financially?

In USD and from 2011 back to 2004:

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: AwysBSB
Posted 2013-01-26 05:14:02 and read 11633 times.

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 15):
As I mentioned before in the Turkish Aviation January Topic, the following destinations could be in long-term future on the wish list:

(...)

South America

Rio de Janeiro
Quito
Lima
Santiago de Chile

Just a note: Brazil's main national hub and the 6th busiest airport of Latin America – Brasilia – is right on TK's way to Santiago de Chile. Furthermore, TK's 332 can operate IST-BSB-IST nonstop.

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: Yakamoz
Posted 2013-01-26 05:40:02 and read 11589 times.

Quoting ETinCaribe (Reply 26):
How about BOG and PTY? BOG as a tag to another city due to elevation.

Bogota and Caracas are on the wish list by TK. I think the routing will be IST-BOG-CCS-IST.
After Havana and Mexico started and the LF is good, everything is possible, also PTY, but in long-term future.

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 27):
LUX for example is operated by both, why not 319 & 320 or 73G & 738?

I think that will be random.

Quoting AwysBSB (Reply 33):
Just a note: Brazil's main national hub and the 6th busiest airport of Latin America – Brasilia – is right on TK's way to Santiago de Chile. Furthermore, TK's 332 can operate IST-BSB-IST nonstop.

It could be. But in my opinion Rio de Janeiro has more chance than Brasilia. A routing IST-GIG-SCL-GIG-IST is possible.

Quoting UA191 (Reply 25):

Anybody ever think TK will consider MCO?

after Boston and San Francisco started, why not? More US destinations will be put on the wish list in future I think.

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: TK787
Posted 2013-01-26 06:26:10 and read 11499 times.

Congrats to TK!
All this possible with a fleet of around 200 jets and IST busting at seams!
If were to look into the future, say 10 years; TK might have another 30+ Wide Bodies (plus possibly some 380 and 350s), 100+ Narrow Bodies, a brand new airport with 6 runways.....I have no idea how many more routes TK would be flying.
We are talking about a major airline and a major hub then.
Who would have guessed it 10 years ago.

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: AwysBSB
Posted 2013-01-27 06:44:20 and read 11003 times.

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 34):
It could be. But in my opinion Rio de Janeiro has more chance than Brasilia. A routing IST-GIG-SCL-GIG-IST is possible.

TK and EK or QR are completely different airlines with distinct hub aspects, and that even explains one operates just 4 weekly flights to Sao Paulo whereas the others operate daily.
Besides that, the logic applied to Sao Paulo is not eligible to rest of the markets in Brazil.
As a result, TK would not succeed if take the same steps of EK and QR in Brazil with the inclusion of Rio de Janeiro.
TK would succeed if bet on Brazil's main national hub as a future Star Alliance hub.

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: adamh8297
Posted 2013-01-27 06:51:45 and read 10962 times.

Quoting AwysBSB (Reply 36):
TK would succeed if bet on Brazil's main national hub as a future Star Alliance hub.

If TK wants to get to a star hub in the area they should do IST-PTY !

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: MSN007
Posted 2013-01-27 21:37:49 and read 10497 times.

Quoting globalflyer (Reply 11):
TK mentioned ATL as a tag on from IAD but it never happened...

I don't think this is possible as the flight out of IAD is pretty much full most of the time.

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: A388
Posted 2013-01-28 04:46:39 and read 10150 times.

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 37):
Quoting AwysBSB (Reply 36):
TK would succeed if bet on Brazil's main national hub as a future Star Alliance hub.

If TK wants to get to a star hub in the area they should do IST-PTY !

BOG will have a far bigger role in the (near) future as a Star Alliance hub in South America than PTY is so TK is much better off serving BOG if they have a long term vision.

A388

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: adamh8297
Posted 2013-01-28 05:08:41 and read 10109 times.

Quoting A388 (Reply 39):
BOG will have a far bigger role in the (near) future as a Star Alliance hub in South America than PTY is so TK is much better off serving BOG if they have a long term vision.

A388

Is there service to CNF, LIR, REC, MAO, COR, POA, TGU and MGA from BOG?

CM serves all of those from PTY while BOG does not.

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: A388
Posted 2013-01-28 09:09:42 and read 9873 times.

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 40):
Is there service to CNF, LIR, REC, MAO, COR, POA, TGU and MGA from BOG?

How important are these destinations? Does CM have a coverage in Brazil just as how AV has through AV Brasil? How do their fleets compare (AV vs. CM)? Does CM have the inflight product that TK would like on the routes they serve throughout South America? AV scores better here too. Does PTY have a bigger local market compared to BOG? Even though both might have smaller markets, it does count as BOG/Colombia is much more attractive due to its much larger local market than can also fill the TK flight.

A388

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: stylo777
Posted 2013-01-28 09:15:34 and read 9858 times.

Quoting UA191 (Reply 25):

considering MCO? maybe, but in the near future I don't see it happening nor being high on their list. there are more important markets in NA before MCO for TK.

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: adamh8297
Posted 2013-01-28 17:53:05 and read 9597 times.

Quoting A388 (Reply 41):
How important are these destinations?

CNF MAO REC POA are second tier Brazilian destinations after GRU/GIG. COR is second tier Argentina. TGU MGA are capital cities.

Quoting A388 (Reply 41):
Does CM have a coverage in Brazil just as how AV has through AV Brasil? How do their fleets compare (AV vs. CM)?

You have to fly to GRU (not BOG) to get to any Avianca Brasil destination which TK is already doing.

CM serves more destinations in Brazil with PTY than Avianca with BOG.

Quoting A388 (Reply 41):
How do their fleets compare (AV vs. CM)? Does CM have the inflight product that TK would like on the routes they serve throughout South America? AV scores better here too.

If you are on an AV A330 from BOG-GRU that can't be beat by anything CM flies. However who has more problems with IRROPS in their main hub?

Quoting A388 (Reply 41):
Does PTY have a bigger local market compared to BOG?

Don't have access to these numbers but BOG would be the bigger local market to IST and to the connections markets IST offers.

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: thomasphoto60
Posted 2013-01-28 17:59:24 and read 9580 times.

Quoting A388 (Reply 4):
Where is MIA?

I believe it's in Florida...........   

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: mah4546
Posted 2013-01-28 18:28:38 and read 9524 times.

Quoting ETinCaribe (Reply 26):
Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 5):
Never formally announced, only rumors / hot air.


I am also waiting... Solidly on the wish list for now. MIA is not going to be easy for them.

It's not going to be high fare goldmine, but filling the plane will be insanely easy. Turkish will return to MIA in due time, and probably sooner rather than later. It has been pretty clear of a desire to return, but like a lot that comes out from Turkish, it is just talk for now.

MIA, SFO, DTW, YUL, BOS and ATL all are logical expansion points.

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: WROORD
Posted 2013-01-28 18:41:52 and read 9506 times.

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 14):
Darn, that's bad news. I wonder why would LO block TK's desire to fly to KRK. Do they have a KRK - IST flight?

No, LO does not serve KRK-IST. They want to channel people via WAW. Therefore they are blocking TK. They also block TK from switching to A332 on WAW-IST.

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: stylo777
Posted 2013-01-29 00:36:22 and read 9289 times.

Quoting WROORD (Reply 46):
No, LO does not serve KRK-IST. They want to channel people via WAW. Therefore they are blocking TK. They also block TK from switching to A332 on WAW-IST.

and how are they doing this? I mean the blocking...

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: leftyboarder
Posted 2013-01-29 01:09:56 and read 9283 times.

Quoting stylo777 (Reply 47):

The current archaic bilateral has given LO a saying in TK operations to Poland... It has to change.

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: Turkish350XWB
Posted 2013-01-29 03:15:55 and read 9151 times.

Quoting WROORD (Reply 46):
No, LO does not serve KRK-IST. They want to channel people via WAW. Therefore they are blocking TK. They also block TK from switching to A332 on WAW-IST.

How is this consistent with the the european free trade area. Every company should be able to offer its product and services wherever it wants within this trade area.

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: A388
Posted 2013-01-29 04:31:08 and read 9064 times.

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 43):
CM serves more destinations in Brazil with PTY than Avianca with BOG.

Why use PTY when TK can use AV in Brasil where they already fly to?

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 43):
However who has more problems with IRROPS in their main hub?

I don't know how AV's operation is but it isn't bad and we must also no forget that AV has seen big growth in the last few years and still has a lot of growth to go through. CM isn't even close to what AV will eventually become. So yes, to TK an airline like AV is much more attractive than CM.

Quoting thomasphoto60 (Reply 44):
Quoting A388 (Reply 4):
Where is MIA?


I believe it's in Florida...........

Good one 

A388

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: thomasphoto60
Posted 2013-01-29 08:59:03 and read 8876 times.

Quoting A388 (Reply 50):

Quoting thomasphoto60 (Reply 44):
Quoting A388 (Reply 4):
Where is MIA?


I believe it's in Florida...........

Good one

Yeah, it was to tempting to pass up.  

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: WROORD
Posted 2013-01-29 18:28:32 and read 8652 times.

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 49):
How is this consistent with the the european free trade area. Every company should be able to offer its product and services wherever it wants within this trade area.

Turkey is not part of EU, so this provision does not apply.

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: leftyboarder
Posted 2013-01-31 00:16:49 and read 8215 times.

Btw, make that 11... IST-AQJ (Aqaba, Jordan) starts on Apr 3rd.

TK818 IST0120 – 0345AQJ 73W 357
TK819 AQJ0445 – 0715IST 73W 357

Source: airlineroute.net

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: miaintl
Posted 2013-01-31 06:20:02 and read 7969 times.

So what makes TK want to discard MIA? Is it the low-yield? I remember reading a year ago that TK's CEO was eyeing expansion to Miami, but now it wants to pass that up in favor for HAV?? An even lower-yielding market!!!!

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: TK787
Posted 2013-02-05 05:08:59 and read 7566 times.

So, should we add OPO to the list?

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: santos
Posted 2013-02-05 06:21:33 and read 7459 times.

Quoting TK787 (Reply 55):
So, should we add OPO to the list?

It's already on the list, look up on reply 15

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: TK787
Posted 2013-02-05 06:32:46 and read 7439 times.

Quoting santos (Reply 56):

It's already on the list, look up on reply 15

Thanks, but I think that is the wish list of "Yakamoz", not TK.
The original post of "TK Destination Wishlist" is a list of cities at least mentioned by the TK top brass.

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: Yakamoz
Posted 2013-02-05 12:30:38 and read 7191 times.

Quoting santos (Reply 56):

You find in the first post the official wish list. My post is a view in future of think about potential destinations. Sorry for the confusion.

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: leftyboarder
Posted 2013-02-06 03:40:59 and read 6976 times.

Make it 12.... MRS announced, starting Jun 4.

TK1365 IST1125 – 1345MRS 738 x146
TK1366 MRS1435 – 1835IST 738 x146

http://airlineroute.net/2013/02/06/tk-mrs-jun13/

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: thenoflyzone
Posted 2013-02-06 06:43:16 and read 6855 times.

Quoting flyyul (Reply 21):

YYC-IST? Now i've seen it all!

Didn't you know ? They're waiting for the new intl terminal and the new runway to be built in YYC before they start the service  

Thenoflyzone

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: Yakamoz
Posted 2013-02-06 23:13:58 and read 6648 times.

According to TK's new presentation December 2012, we can add 3 more destinations to the wish list:

Atlanta
Manila
Oran

http://www.turkishairlines.com/downl...entations/sunum_aralik_tr_2012.pdf


To our Administrators:

Is it possible to change the title of this topic to "Turkish Airlines Destination Wishlist and Confirmations"?

Thanks.

[Edited 2013-02-06 23:15:51]

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: Yakamoz
Posted 2013-02-07 04:02:49 and read 6469 times.

Another one from the wishlist is confirmed: Friedrichshafen

Begin 02MAY13

TK1385 IST1405 – 1605FDH 320 x137
TK1386 FDH1655 – 2050IST 320 x137

Source: airlineroute.net

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: GEsubsea
Posted 2013-02-09 17:41:35 and read 6095 times.

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 15):
Happy to see more confirmed destinations today. 28 left in the wish list.

31.01. Libreville
01.02. Colombo (over Male)
01.04. Houston
25.04. Kuala Lumpur
21.05. Santiago de Compostela
28.05. Salzburg
07.06. Constanta
11.06. Vilnius-Tallinn
25.06. Luxemburg

Looks like Colombo as begun.....

Turkish Airlines begins operations
By The Nation
Sunday, 10 February 2013 00:00
http://www.nation.lk/edition/busines...sh-airlines-begins-operations.html

Turkish Airlines which claims to be the best airline in Europe and flies the most countries in the world, last week added its 219th destination and its 98th country by commencing flights to Colombo. Following the announcement, this year marks the first time that flights will be available directly from Colombo to Istanbul, officials of the airline announced.

Turkish Airlines will operate flights to Colombo 5 days per week on Mondays, Wednesdays, Thursdays, Fridays and Sundays in both directions, linking Colombo, also Sri Lanka’s largest city and financial hub, to the worldwide network of Turkish Airlines.Turkish Airlines plans to operate from Colombo on Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and Sunday, arriving at 1510 LT and departure the same day at 2140 LT; arrival in Istanbul the next day at 0545 LT. The initial flights will operate as Istanbul/Male/Colombo/Male/Istanbul and from Istanbul; the airline offers convenient flights to the US, Europe, Eastern Europe, the Scandinavian countries and the CIS

[Edited 2013-02-09 17:42:52]

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: GEsubsea
Posted 2013-02-09 18:13:01 and read 6053 times.

Quoting leftyboarder (Thread starter):
Remaining destinations that TK has expressed intentions to serve:

Luxor
Aswan
Gassim
Rotterdam
Abha
Malta
Asmara
Marseille
Kharkiv
Luanda
Abuja
Kano
Caracas
Mexico
Boston
Havanna
San Francisco
Montreal
Njamena
Juba
Katmandu
Masar-i-Sharif
Friedrichshafen
Lankaran
Bogota
Aqaba
Bamako
Krakow

Looks like IST-Marseille is now confirmed to be going active in April, along with interest by TK in considering whether or not to sponsor Olympique Marseille, the city's prestigious football club.

Transport: Turkish Airlines travels to Provence
New flight Marseille-Istanbul; sport sponsorship likely
06 February, 14:18
http://www.ansamed.info/ansamed/en/n...ines-travels-Provence_8199398.html

Turkish Airlines will be investing in Provence with a new connection between Istanbul and Marseille and more. According to Econostrum, the Turkish air carrier is considering whether to sponsor Olympique Marseille, the city's prestigious football club.

The new connection will be inaugurated in April with an estimated 50,000 passengers in the first year, the marketing chief of Marseille's airport Julien Boulley told reporters. He also said that two flights will soon be operated daily.

Initially, four flights a week have been scheduled.

Turkish Airlines has said it intends to invest in the local economy to boost the company's profile in Provence. In particular, the director general Erhan Ipek spoke about sport.

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: GEsubsea
Posted 2013-02-09 18:20:49 and read 6061 times.

Quoting leftyboarder (Thread starter):
In addition, there are upped frequencies across the board.

Remaining destinations that TK has expressed intentions to serve:

Luxor
Aswan
Gassim
Rotterdam
Abha
Malta
Asmara
Marseille
Kharkiv
Luanda
Abuja
Kano
Caracas
Mexico
Boston
Havanna
San Francisco
Montreal
Njamena
Juba
Katmandu
Masar-i-Sharif
Friedrichshafen
Lankaran
Bogota
Aqaba
Bamako
Krakow

Also, the Swedish city of Gothenburg needs to be included in this list as TK mentioned interest in this market concerning an article centered around making Thessaloniki a TK Hub.

Turkish Airlines Makes Thessaloniki Hub
By Nicky Mariam Onti on February 1, 2013
http://greece.greekreporter.com/2013...h-airlines-makes-thessaloniki-hub/

Yazan said Chinese and Indian visitors traveled to Thessaloniki via Turkish Airlines and he’s optimistic it will continue. He noted that one of the airline’s next goals is to target the Swedish market via Gothenburg.

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: turkishsky
Posted 2013-02-09 22:22:49 and read 5963 times.

Quoting GEsubsea (Reply 65):

Gothenburg can not be in the wishlist. It has already been in the destination list for a while and going up to double daily this summer....

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: leftyboarder
Posted 2013-02-10 00:54:58 and read 5819 times.

Quoting GEsubsea (Reply 64):

yes, I mentioned in post 59  

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: jfidler
Posted 2013-02-10 07:59:18 and read 5609 times.

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 61):
According to TK's new presentation December 2012, we can add 3 more destinations to the wish list:
Manila

Any idea on timings for this flight, or too early to say?

On another note, the new TLL route is now bookable on TK's website.

Topic: Turkish Airlines Wishlist and Confirmations
Username: Yakamoz
Posted 2013-02-11 02:10:35 and read 5275 times.

Quoting jfidler (Reply 68):

It's just on the wishlist, not confirmed  


Malta begin 25 May. That makes 14.

TK1369 IST1235 – 1420MLA 73W 2
TK1369 IST1235 – 1420MLA 319 36

TK1370 MLA1515 – 1835IST 73W 2
TK1370 MLA1515 – 1835IST 319 36


Destination start agenda:

01.04. Houston
03.04. Aqaba
25.04. Kuala Lumpur
02.05. Friedrichshafen
21.05. Santiago de Compostela
25.05. Malta
28.05. Salzburg
04.06. Marseille
07.06. Constanta
11.06. Vilnius-Tallinn
25.06. Luxemburg

On the wishlist are now 27 destinations.

Africa (10)

Luxor
Aswan
Asmara
Luanda
Abuja
Kano
Njamena
Juba
Bamako
Oran

Europe (3)

Rotterdam
Kharkiv
Krakow


Asia (6)

Gassim
Katmandu
Manila
Masar-i-Sharif
Abha
Lankaran

South America (2)

Caracas
Bogota


North America (5)

Mexico
Boston
San Francisco
Montreal
Atlanta

Caribbean (1)

Havanna

[Edited 2013-02-11 02:42:11]

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Wishlist And Confirmations
Username: ChrisNH
Posted 2013-02-11 05:05:38 and read 5120 times.

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 15):
North America

Vancouver
Calgary
San Juan (when Havana will be a success, why not?)
Miami
Seattle
Atlanta
Denver
Philadelphia
Dallas
Boston would/should be ahead of half these cities.

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Wishlist And Confirmations
Username: Yakamoz
Posted 2013-02-11 05:08:40 and read 5114 times.

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 70):

Boston is on the wishlist. That list you have quoted is just a potential view of me.

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Wishlist And Confirmations
Username: TK787
Posted 2013-02-11 05:14:07 and read 5109 times.

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 70):
Boston would/should be ahead of half these cities.

"LAXintl" in the past, posted a list of US-Turkey daily demand and Boston was up there, IIRC top five. Also it is easier to reach from IST, daily with a single frame.

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Wishlist And Confirmations
Username: Yakamoz
Posted 2013-02-11 05:28:15 and read 5090 times.

Quoting TK787 (Reply 72):

Was that one here:

Quoting LAXintl:
This month for statistics I will post the Top-50 Turkey-US O&D markets.
Unless noted all counts are for Istanbul.

1) New York - 623
2) Los Angeles - 176
3) Washington - 160
4) Chicago - 121
5) Boston - 80
6) San Francisco - 70
7) Miami - 68
8) NYC-ESB - 45
9) Houston - 37
10) Atlanta - 36
11) Seattle - 31
12) Washington-ESB - 25
13) Orlando - 23
14 Dallas - 23
15) Detroit - 19
16) Denver - 18
17) Philledelphia - 16
18) San Diego - 16
19) Las Vegas - 15
20) Phoenix - 12
21) Chicago-ESB - 12
22) Tampa - 9
23) Portland - 9
24) Charlotte - 9
25) Boston-ESB - 9
26) Raleigh - 8
27) Cleveland - 8
28) Cincinnati - 7
29) St Louis - 7
30) Pittsburgh - 7
31) Salt Lake - 6
32) Columbus -6
33) Austin - 6
34) Washington-ADA - 6
35) Minneapolis - 6
36) Kansas City - 5
37) San Antonio - 5
38) Indianapolis - 5
39) Jacksonville - 4
40) Nashville - 4
41) Memphis - 4
42) Norfolk - 4
43) Seattle-ESB - 4
44) Dallas-ESB -4
45) Buffalo - 3
46) Rochester - 3
47) Oklahoma City - 3
48) Nashville-Diyarbakir - 3
49) Tulsa - 2
50) Tucson - 2

*data is for demand traveling in both directions. For example, NYC total figure encompass local demand from New York to Istanbul as well as demand from Istanbul to New York. To determine PDEW (passenger daily each way) divide the total by 2.


Its also interesting to note the amazing growth of local US-Turkey traffic has seen in the last 10-years. For example back in 2001 not even 100,000 people flew between NYC and Turkey, and now the count is over 250,000 !
Add in huge and growing transit traffic, the numbers are even more impressive.

Turkey has truly become both a global transportation hub and a significant local home market.

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Wishlist And Confirmations
Username: TK787
Posted 2013-02-11 05:39:53 and read 5059 times.

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 73):

Exactly, thanks. It is for O&D but great to have these numbers.

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Wishlist And Confirmations
Username: leftyboarder
Posted 2013-02-11 05:53:14 and read 5039 times.

There should be some incidental info on that list   I can't imagine Nashville-Diyarbakır to be consistently providing pax flow   And is the Istanbul-Tucson demand due to Elif Safak?  

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Wishlist And Confirmations
Username: Yakamoz
Posted 2013-02-11 06:18:54 and read 4979 times.

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 75):
And is the Istanbul-Tucson demand due to Elif Safak?

:D that is a good one!  

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Wishlist And Confirmations
Username: vfw614
Posted 2013-02-11 12:23:44 and read 4837 times.

What I find interesting is that they serve a lot of the new shorthaul destinations with a mix of A320s and 737-800s despite a lower than daily frequency. Is there a rationale behind that?

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Wishlist And Confirmations
Username: ASA
Posted 2013-02-11 12:45:17 and read 4800 times.

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 75):
I can't imagine Nashville-Diyarbakır to be consistently providing pax flow    

Actually - south Nashville area has recently absorbed a lot of Kurdish immigrants (both Turkish and Iraqi, AFAIK). In fact, one of the best Turkish restaurants I have been to in the US was from Nashville ... just south of the Vanderbilt area. Quite expensive though  

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Wishlist And Confirmations
Username: leftyboarder
Posted 2013-02-11 12:54:02 and read 4788 times.

Quoting vfw614 (Reply 77):

They usually start 3-4-5 weekly and grow to daily within a year according to demand. That is what has happened with VLC or EDI...

Quoting ASA (Reply 78):

Amazing to hear... Nashville of all places!

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Wishlist And Confirmations
Username: sandyb123
Posted 2013-02-11 13:09:32 and read 4758 times.

Quoting jfidler (Reply 8):
I went to TK's US website and tried to book a flight to TLL in June, and it didn't even recognize TLL as a destination.

I went on TKs website to try and book a round trip EDI-JNB and it didn't even recognise the UK as a county. Oh well, EK just got the booking again from GLA.

Sandyb123

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Wishlist And Confirmations
Username: TK1244
Posted 2013-02-11 13:43:43 and read 4700 times.

Quoting sandyb123 (Reply 80):
I went on TKs website to try and book a round trip EDI-JNB and it didn't even recognise the UK as a county.

What do you exactly mean? I can select UK als country on both the intro screen als on other pages

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Wishlist And Confirmations
Username: vfw614
Posted 2013-02-11 13:52:42 and read 4687 times.

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 79):
They usually start 3-4-5 weekly and grow to daily within a year according to demand. That is what has happened with VLC or EDI...

I know. What surprises me from a scheduling point of view is that they use a mix of A320s and 738s to a new destination despite operating only 3-4 flights a week. I always thought that a mixed fleet of A32X and 737NGs means that each type has its advantages on certain routes. So for some new destinations the 737 would be better suited, for other the A320. However, often TK's schedules to new destinations look like these:

TK1369 IST1235 – 1420MLA 73W 2
TK1369 IST1235 – 1420MLA 319 36

TK1353 IST0915 – 1145LUX 738 7
TK1353 IST0915 – 1145LUX 319 235

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Wishlist And Confirmations
Username: leftyboarder
Posted 2013-02-11 14:37:49 and read 4611 times.

Oh ok, sorry I misunderstood you. That is curious, but in fact TK announcing that the flight will be a daily 319 doesn't mean much anyway - you get any type from 319 up to 343   So this again might not be set in stone in actual operation.

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Wishlist And Confirmations
Username: stylo777
Posted 2013-02-11 17:39:54 and read 4475 times.

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 83):
you get any type from 319 up to 343

this is totally true and brings me to another question. TK operates a very small subfleet of 737-700. we used to talked about this in a similar way when they only operated four 319 some years ago, but this number (of the 319) has increased now to 12; however, the 737 remain at 4.
what is the idea behind? any economical or operational reason for keeping this subfleet of only four frames?

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Wishlist And Confirmations
Username: usflyer msp
Posted 2013-02-11 17:52:37 and read 4474 times.

Quoting ASA (Reply 78):
Actually - south Nashville area has recently absorbed a lot of Kurdish immigrants (both Turkish and Iraqi, AFAIK). In fact, one of the best Turkish restaurants I have been to in the US was from Nashville ... just south of the Vanderbilt area. Quite expensive though

Indeed. There is even a Kurdish Gang (KP) in Nashville! When I visit my family down there, it always amusing to watch these young Kurdish kids try to be gangbangers...

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Wishlist And Confirmations
Username: HB-IWC
Posted 2013-02-11 18:05:37 and read 4451 times.

Quoting vfw614 (Reply 82):
I know. What surprises me from a scheduling point of view is that they use a mix of A320s and 738s to a new destination despite operating only 3-4 flights a week. I always thought that a mixed fleet of A32X and 737NGs means that each type has its advantages on certain routes. So for some new destinations the 737 would be better suited, for other the A320. However, often TK's schedules to new destinations look like these

The published equipment will ultimately bare little resemblace with the actual equipment deployed. It is merely indicative of TK's intentions, but actually TK will adjust euipment to demand on a day to day basis for these routes, which are almost all served with an immediate turn around for the crews involved anyway. As such, TK has a fleet of B73W/738/739ER, A319/320/321 to play with and when additional capacity is called for a widebody A332/333/343 or even B77W will be dispatched to any Eurpean, North African or Middle Eastern destination.

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Wishlist And Confirmations
Username: sandyb123
Posted 2013-02-12 00:49:10 and read 4311 times.

Quoting TK1244 (Reply 81):
What do you exactly mean? I can select UK als country on both the intro screen als on other pages

Nope. No UK / Great Britain listed here? I then tried to google it and when doing flight searches just kept on saying didn't recognise the destination.



Not great first impression. Although a bit further, I'd take the EK flatbed / Suite over a TK A319 three abreast 'business recliner' to IST, maybe TK will raise their game and I'll try them next time.

Sandyb123

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Wishlist And Confirmations
Username: emp
Posted 2013-02-12 02:08:21 and read 4221 times.

I think there's a problem with your browser/system, the UK is listed under Ukraine and if you look closely on your screenshot there's even a little bit of the bullet visible. (tried it on a mac w/ safari, firefox, chrome)

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Wishlist And Confirmations
Username: TK787
Posted 2013-02-12 05:02:21 and read 4076 times.

Quoting sandyb123 (Reply 87):
I'd take the EK flatbed / Suite over a TK A319 three abreast 'business recliner' to IST, maybe TK will raise their game and I'll try them next time.

I dont think that TK can beat the EK's flatbed, not now, not in the future to EDI or GLA.

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Wishlist And Confirmations
Username: LAXintl
Posted 2013-02-12 05:13:41 and read 4054 times.

Quoting sandyb123 (Reply 87):
Nope. No UK / Great Britain listed here? I then tried to google it and when doing flight searches just kept on saying didn't recognise the destination.

There is something with your browser/computer.

United Kingdom is definitely on the page, with additional language drop down option of English as well.

See it both in Chrome and IE.

Anyhow - you can also go straight to their UK website as well.
http://www.turkishairlines.com/en-uk/

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Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Wishlist And Confirmations
Username: sandyb123
Posted 2013-02-12 06:23:04 and read 4000 times.

Quoting emp (Reply 88):
I think there's a problem with your browser/system,
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 90):
There is something with your browser/computer.

Hmm, I'm running Mac OSX 10.7 and this is in Safari. Tried it on Firefox and Chrome too, same issue. They should really cross browser test.

Quoting TK787 (Reply 89):
I dont think that TK can beat the EK's flatbed, not now, not in the future to EDI or GLA.

I've booked EK Suite from GLA now anyway.
Sandyb123

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Wishlist And Confirmations
Username: TK787
Posted 2013-02-15 15:44:44 and read 3702 times.

Adding two more to the list as per TK;
Nantes NTE and Ahwaz AWZ

On the wishlist are now 27+2 destinations.

Africa (10)

Luxor
Aswan
Asmara
Luanda
Abuja
Kano
Ndjamena
Juba
Bamako
Oran

Europe (4)

Rotterdam
Kharkiv
Krakow
Nantes


Asia (7)

Gassim
Katmandu
Manila
Masar-i-Sharif
Abha
Lankaran
Ahwaz, IRAN

South America (2)

Caracas
Bogota


North America (5)

Mexico
Boston
San Francisco
Montreal
Atlanta

Caribbean (1)

Havana

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Wishlist And Confirmations
Username: stylo777
Posted 2013-02-16 04:33:39 and read 3493 times.

with all those new destinations to often quite rural parts of the world it sometimes sounds/looks like TK is playing a simulation game such as airlinesim and testing around. crazy!

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Wishlist And Confirmations
Username: thijs1984
Posted 2013-02-17 04:38:54 and read 3169 times.

Quoting TK787 (Reply 92):
Europe (4)

Rotterdam

I think you can delete Rotterdam from this list for the time being. It seems that TK only applied for RTM slots due to the fact that TK might not be able to obtain enough slots in Amsterdam. TK has now all the desired slots in AMS for the summer season 2013 and the RTM slots will not be taken up. Unfortunatelly i must say. RTM would have been a great addition to the network of TK.

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Wishlist And Confirmations
Username: TK1244
Posted 2013-02-17 15:51:20 and read 2890 times.

Quoting thijs1984 (Reply 94):

Not again... Will be very disappointed with TK if it is true  

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Wishlist And Confirmations
Username: Yakamoz
Posted 2013-02-18 03:50:28 and read 2723 times.

According to a 2013 presentation of Turkish Cargo, you can find following destination starts (without confirmed destinations):

30.04.13 Rotterdam
08.05.13 Lankaran
15.05.13 Kano
15.05.13 Ndjamena
01.06.13 Masar-i-Sharif
05.06.13 Gassim
13.06.13 Abha
18.06.13 Havana
18.06.13 Mexico City
20.06.13 Kathmandu
11.11.13 Luxor
11.11.13 Aswan
19.11.13 Juba
27.11.13 Asmara

Source (page 10): http://www.turkishcargo.com.tr/kargo...cargo_sunum_2013_TR_2013_02_04.pdf

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Wishlist And Confirmations
Username: thijs1984
Posted 2013-02-18 04:35:58 and read 2640 times.

Quoting TK1244 (Reply 95):

Not again... Will be very disappointed with TK if it is true

Dajavu! This has happenend before. I Think Rotterdam is not on the wish list at all. Rotterdam is just the alternative if not enough slots are obtained in Amsterdam.
Think the guys in Rotterdam are not very happy to be the second choice again. But i think TK is the greatest loser of all as they clearly underestimate the potential of RTM.

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 96):
30.04.13 Rotterdam

the route should have been officially announced by now. I dont expect TK to come to Rotterdam this summer. Or even not at all. It's a pitty. But i think Rotterdam can use its limited number of slots better for a more dedicated airline.


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