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Topic: LGW To Announce New Long Haul Route To Asia
Username: jet72uk
Posted 2013-02-01 00:51:59 and read 11024 times.

Seen yesterday at http://www.routes-news.com/news/item...nnounce-new-long-haul-asian-route. Does not state airline or destination. Thoughts? Maybe an announcement today

Topic: RE: LGW To Announce New Long Haul Route To Asia
Username: gardermoen
Posted 2013-02-01 01:05:36 and read 10958 times.

The answer is here....Garuda! Six time weekly Gatwick to Jakarta non-stop B777-300 service.

Source:

http://www.businesstraveller.com/new...-to-launch-gatwick-jakarta-service

Topic: RE: LGW To Announce New Long Haul Route To Asia
Username: SKAirbus
Posted 2013-02-01 03:17:37 and read 10550 times.

Quoting gardermoen (Reply 1):
The answer is here....Garuda! Six time weekly Gatwick to Jakarta non-stop B777-300 service.

Source:

http://www.businesstraveller.com/new...rvice

Was not expecting that!! Great stuff for Gatwick when so many other airlines are pulling out...

Wonder if this is a stop gap until Garuda can nab some LHR slots?

Topic: RE: LGW To Announce New Long Haul Route To Asia
Username: BaeRJ100
Posted 2013-02-01 03:30:29 and read 10452 times.

GA doesn't have any 777's in their fleet at the moment, do they have these on order? Leasing? Possible typo?

Edit: Disregard, looked it up and answered my own question!

[Edited 2013-02-01 03:31:29]

Topic: RE: LGW To Announce New Long Haul Route To Asia
Username: jet72uk
Posted 2013-02-01 04:01:08 and read 10270 times.

GA always did fly from LGW back in the day so they are prob in for the long run.

Topic: RE: LGW To Announce New Long Haul Route To Asia
Username: SKAirbus
Posted 2013-02-01 05:03:37 and read 10006 times.

Will this be the longest non-stop flight from the UK?? At the moment it's EZE right?

Topic: RE: LGW To Announce New Long Haul Route To Asia
Username: cipango
Posted 2013-02-01 08:04:10 and read 9556 times.

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 5):
Will this be the longest non-stop flight from the UK?? At the moment it's EZE right?

How long will the flight be? SIN is 13 Hours so maybe around 14/14:30 Hrs?

Topic: RE: LGW To Announce New Long Haul Route To Asia
Username: skipness1E
Posted 2013-02-01 09:10:05 and read 9343 times.

Quoting SKAirbus (Reply 2):
Wonder if this is a stop gap until Garuda can nab some LHR slots?

By "nab" you mean spend a small fortune on? They're non alliance so no powerful friends to share spare space with.

Topic: RE: LGW To Announce New Long Haul Route To Asia
Username: redzeppelin
Posted 2013-02-01 10:00:47 and read 8979 times.

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 7):
By "nab" you mean spend a small fortune on? They're non alliance so no powerful friends to share spare space with.

Aren't they joining SkyTeam?

Topic: RE: LGW To Announce New Long Haul Route To Asia
Username: LGW340
Posted 2013-02-01 11:25:15 and read 8091 times.

ANA will also be starting here too however no date has been confirmed yet

Topic: RE: LGW To Announce New Long Haul Route To Asia
Username: flyingalex
Posted 2013-02-01 13:54:33 and read 6850 times.

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 7):
By "nab" you mean spend a small fortune on? They're non alliance so no powerful friends to share spare space with.
Quoting redzeppelin (Reply 8):
Aren't they joining SkyTeam?

They are indeed; they're scheduled to join in early 2014.

Topic: RE: LGW To Announce New Long Haul Route To Asia
Username: Roseflyer
Posted 2013-02-01 16:03:23 and read 6005 times.

Quoting BaeRJ100 (Reply 3):
GA doesn't have any 777's in their fleet at the moment, do they have these on order? Leasing? Possible typo?

New deliveries should be coming around June of this year from Boeing. The second should come later in the year.

Topic: RE: LGW To Announce New Long Haul Route To Asia
Username: skipness1E
Posted 2013-02-01 16:54:00 and read 5727 times.

Quoting LGW340 (Reply 9):
ANA will also be starting here too however no date has been confirmed yet

Given JAL never brought back the second LHR-NRT or indeed LHR-OSA and BA's LHR-HND is hardly setting the heather alight do you think this likely? Japan is a tough market and adding lower yielding additional capacity from LGW a la Korean Air doesn't really seem to work.

Topic: RE: LGW To Announce New Long Haul Route To Asia
Username: LGW340
Posted 2013-02-01 21:54:33 and read 4755 times.

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 12):

Korean has pretty good pax loads now from here but they are really making their money on cargo on this route, they are starting flights again in March.

As for ANA, the company I work for have had ground handling talks with them. Would be a 772

While on the subject of Asia, Vietnam will soon be going daily. Thy have very high pax and cargo loads so great to see then doing well here!

Topic: RE: LGW To Announce New Long Haul Route To Asia
Username: david_itl
Posted 2013-02-02 00:39:52 and read 4199 times.

Quoting LGW340 (Reply 13):
Korean has pretty good pax loads now from here but they are really making their money on cargo on this route, they are starting flights again in March.

Which is why you cannot book KE tickets to LGW on their website?!

Topic: RE: LGW To Announce New Long Haul Route To Asia
Username: BlueShamu330s
Posted 2013-02-02 00:58:31 and read 4093 times.

Korean is pulled for good, no more, nada, no return.

I've said this half a dozen times on here, but people still believe they're coming back.

Rgds

Topic: RE: LGW To Announce New Long Haul Route To Asia
Username: babybus
Posted 2013-02-02 01:55:55 and read 3943 times.

If I remember correctly Garuda used to fly a 747 LGW-FRA-DXB-DPS in the 80s.

I hope they route something like that again as flying non-stop to DPS in a 777 is going to be very painful. Shame they don't have A380s.

Too many uncomfy passengers will surely kill the route.

Topic: RE: LGW To Announce New Long Haul Route To Asia
Username: Pe@rson
Posted 2013-02-02 02:34:48 and read 3850 times.

Quoting babybus (Reply 16):
I hope they route something like that again

I don't: short-haul legs as part of long-haul flights are very expensive to operate.

Topic: RE: LGW To Announce New Long Haul Route To Asia
Username: skipness1E
Posted 2013-02-02 03:17:20 and read 3757 times.

If Vietnam are doing as well as you say how come flights ended up routing via CDG and FRA last year? Also as others have said, Korean Air are gone for good, BA's launch of LHR-ICN saw to that.

Topic: RE: LGW To Announce New Long Haul Route To Asia
Username: jumpjets
Posted 2013-02-02 04:57:08 and read 3568 times.

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 18):
If Vietnam are doing as well as you say how come flights ended up routing via CDG and FRA last year?

According to routesonline.com there is to be a fifth weekly flight to Gatwick from mid April , being the third SGN-LGW service, so presumably the demand is there to merit the extra flight. Having said that the LGW website continues showing 2 flights per week to SGN for the summer season.

I never quite understood the temporary stop in FRA or CDG but they were described as Technical stops rather than passenger stop off and collect stops.

Topic: RE: LGW To Announce New Long Haul Route To Asia
Username: FCAFLYBOY
Posted 2013-02-02 05:07:57 and read 3528 times.

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 18):

This was only for a period of a few weeks, during the traditionally very low season. Don't forget, whilst tourism is booming in Vietnam, It's no Thailand or Malaysia - YET.

Also consider that weather is very seasonal, especially in Hanoi which can be quite cold in winter, and the coastal regions and south which are affected by typhoons and very heavy rains at certain time of the year - hence the CDG/FRA tag ons for a very short period.

I hope one day we might also see a direct UK-NHA or DAD flight, if the airport can accommodate a 777 that is

Topic: RE: LGW To Announce New Long Haul Route To Asia
Username: skipness1E
Posted 2013-02-02 05:53:21 and read 3433 times.

Wasn't it for the UK peak summer period? It was a number of months rather than weeks which led me to suspect they were heading for the exit door sharpish. Glad they stayed the course though, awesome colour scheme!

Topic: RE: LGW To Announce New Long Haul Route To Asia
Username: FCAFLYBOY
Posted 2013-02-02 06:14:40 and read 3385 times.

sorry I didn't make myself clear - I know the tag on was in summer, not too surprising as that is it generally the best time weather wise - my comment about the Hanoi area really just an example of quite seasonal weather in Vietnam.

I too am pleased the route seems to be doing well - VN also have a fantastic domestic and regional network which I've experience and really enjoyed. Flourishing airline for sure, crappy J class thought - needs to lie-flat.

Topic: RE: LGW To Announce New Long Haul Route To Asia
Username: eicvd
Posted 2013-02-03 12:34:39 and read 2649 times.

Quoting FCAFLYBOY (Reply 20):
I hope one day we might also see a direct UK-NHA or DAD flight, if the airport can accommodate a 777 that is

VN have recently announced a weekly NHA-DME flight so NHA can handle a 777.

Topic: RE: LGW To Announce New Long Haul Route To Asia
Username: FCAFLYBOY
Posted 2013-02-03 15:25:46 and read 2423 times.

Quoting eicvd (Reply 23):

Ahh interesting. So it's not completely out of the question.
Though I doubt we'd see that for some time yet.

Will GA serve DPS direct or a tag on to CGK?


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