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Topic: Helicopter Crashes During Filming Of Top Gear Korea
Username: varigb707
Posted 2013-02-12 07:22:41 and read 14065 times.

First off, no injuries on this crash. Watch the whole video.
"""Top Gear" is a popular British television show about cars that has been on the air since the 1970s. Versions of the show also appear in the U.S., Australia, Russia, and South Korea, which premiered in 2011.""
http://youtu.be/6EsoWpTO2qg

Topic: Helicopter Crashes During Filming Of Top Gear Korea
Username: SOBHI51
Posted 2013-02-12 07:32:04 and read 13956 times.

Just to make clear the crash happened during filming the Korean version of Top Gear, also surprising they are using a military helicopter.

[Edited 2013-02-12 07:33:27]

Topic: Helicopter Crashes During Filming Of Top Gear Korea
Username: francoflier
Posted 2013-02-12 08:18:27 and read 13637 times.

Glad the pilot made it out ok, but not a good omen for TG Korea. Their insurers are probably going to suddenly be a lot more restrictive as far as the stunts they pull.

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 2):
also surprising they are using a military helicopter.

Top Gear (at least the UK version) has a habit of using military hardware for these kinds of shots. They usually organize races between cars and different flying, floating or rolling combat machines.

Was that a US army chopper? The pilot was definitely a westerner and it looked like it was shot in a desert in Arizona or thereabouts. Maybe they pool the stunts between the different versions of the show.

The face of the driver is priceless.

Topic: Helicopter Crashes During Filming Of Top Gear Korea
Username: ADent
Posted 2013-02-12 08:23:24 and read 13592 times.

TG USA had a segment on last weeks show recorded on a Army base in Kentucky using various equipment, including several helicopters.

USA military seems to be less cooperative with TV than UK.

Topic: Helicopter Crashes During Filming Of Top Gear Korea
Username: rlwynn
Posted 2013-02-12 08:24:02 and read 13592 times.

It was in Arizona and was a private helicopter.

[Edited 2013-02-12 08:25:08]

Topic: Helicopter Crashes During Filming Of Top Gear Korea
Username: rfields5421
Posted 2013-02-12 08:38:25 and read 13427 times.

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 2):
also surprising they are using a military helicopter.

The AH-1 Cobra has been out of the US military inventory for over 10 years. Several were bought and civilianized in the early 2000s.

Topic: Helicopter Crashes During Filming Of Top Gear Korea
Username: neutronstar73
Posted 2013-02-12 09:01:43 and read 13271 times.

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 6):
The AH-1 Cobra has been out of the US military inventory for over 10 years. Several were bought and civilianized in the early 2000s.

Oh really? Odd, considering I was escorted plenty of times by AH-1Ws on many missions in Afghanistan...in 2012. Must have been a figment of my imagination.

Also a figment of my imagination watching Cobra gun runs on insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan. Or watching gun videos from the aircraft. Nope, it's been out of the inventory for 10 years...

Topic: Helicopter Crashes During Filming Of Top Gear Korea
Username: rlwynn
Posted 2013-02-12 09:32:07 and read 13066 times.

Quoting neutronstar73 (Reply 7):
Oh really? Odd, considering I was escorted plenty of times by AH-1Ws on many missions in Afghanistan...in 2012. Must have been a figment of my imagination.

Also a figment of my imagination watching Cobra gun runs on insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan. Or watching gun videos from the aircraft. Nope, it's been out of the inventory for 10 years...

Might not be a figment of your imagination. More like you do not know what you are talking about. The AH-1 is not an AH-1W.

Topic: Helicopter Crashes During Filming Of Top Gear Korea
Username: NBGSkyGod
Posted 2013-02-12 10:15:56 and read 12845 times.

Quoting neutronstar73 (Reply 7):

Oh really? Odd, considering I was escorted plenty of times by AH-1Ws on many missions in Afghanistan...in 2012. Must have been a figment of my imagination.

Also a figment of my imagination watching Cobra gun runs on insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan. Or watching gun videos from the aircraft. Nope, it's been out of the inventory for 10 years...

Relax there Neuton...The Army stopped using the AH-1 back in the early '90s, however the Marine Corps still uses their upgraded and modified variant with good effect.

What the previous poster was stating was that the Army version (the one in the video, as seen with the boxy cockpit area verses the rounded cockpit area on the -1W) has been out of service and some are in civilian hands.

Topic: Helicopter Crashes During Filming Of Top Gear Korea
Username: Spacepope
Posted 2013-02-12 11:49:38 and read 12236 times.

Quoting varigb707 (Thread starter):

First off, no injuries on this crash. Watch the whole video.
"""Top Gear" is a popular British television show about cars that has been on the air since the 1970s. Versions of the show also appear in the U.S., Australia, Russia, and South Korea, which premiered in 2011.""
http://youtu.be/6EsoWpTO2qg

You might have wanted to add that this happened nearly a year ago.

Preliminary NTSB report here: http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/br...ef.aspx?ev_id=20120217X34147&key=1

Topic: Helicopter Crashes During Filming Of Top Gear Korea
Username: rfields5421
Posted 2013-02-12 11:57:13 and read 12020 times.

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 6):
out of the US military inventory
Quoting neutronstar73 (Reply 7):
Oh really?

Sorry, I should have said US Army inventory. To me the differences between the US Army single engine version and the USMC twin engine version are very obvious.

My experience with USMC Cobra's was in Beirut in 1983.

Quoting Spacepope (Reply 10):
You might have wanted to add that this happened nearly a year ago.

Thanks



[Edited 2013-02-12 12:00:47]

Topic: Helicopter Crashes During Filming Of Top Gear Korea
Username: rbgso
Posted 2013-02-12 12:07:27 and read 11731 times.

I wonder how civilians got hold of some of these helicopters? I know the military used to have surplus sales, but didn't know it included aircraft.

Topic: Helicopter Crashes During Filming Of Top Gear Korea
Username: rfields5421
Posted 2013-02-12 12:23:06 and read 11291 times.

Quoting rbgso (Reply 12):
I wonder how civilians got hold of some of these helicopters?

The one in the video was civilian registered, demilitarized, and owned or operated by a group that is dedicated to preserving US Army aviation history and aircraft.

Up until the mid-2000's it was pretty easy to buy a surplus US military aircraft - though certain models were restricted from public sale because some of their parts could be sold for use outside the US. (There is a military surplus and scrap dealer located west of Texarkana Texas on the north side of I-30 who has an F-111 sitting out front. He used to have an F-105 for many years).

Buying an aircraft in flyable, or restorable to flyable, condition was more difficult but could be done. The aircraft in the video most likely was released because of the intended 'museum' status.

Topic: RE: Helicopter Crashes During Filming Of Top Gear Korea
Username: trident3
Posted 2013-02-12 13:12:24 and read 10297 times.

Quoting rbgso (Reply 11):

I wonder how civilians got hold of some of these helicopters? I know the military used to have surplus sales, but didn't know it included aircraft.

The Top Gear boys show how easy it is:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrAFqE36anw Watch from about 1min 30 in. As currently used by the French in Mali

Topic: RE: Helicopter Crashes During Filming Of Top Gear Korea
Username: SOBHI51
Posted 2013-02-12 14:56:25 and read 8932 times.

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 12):
The one in the video was civilian registered, demilitarized,

But they still have the missiles pod and the machine guns.

Topic: RE: Helicopter Crashes During Filming Of Top Gear Korea
Username: Alnicocunife
Posted 2013-02-12 17:39:54 and read 7542 times.

Quoting rbgso (Reply 11):
I wonder how civilians got hold of some of these helicopters? I know the military used to have surplus sales, but didn't know it included aircraft.

These helicopters were bought in pieces (scrap) and put together. There may be as many as 5 used to make one. The engine and rotor assembly came out of a UH-1. There are no more sales of surplus AH-1 fuselage parts from the Army as they are now destroying the remaining fuselage pieces. A dozen or so where "rebuilt" into flying condition. I believe to get these registered was a great ordeal.

Topic: RE: Helicopter Crashes During Filming Of Top Gear Korea
Username: TrnsWrld
Posted 2013-02-13 05:08:41 and read 3446 times.

Glad no one was injured. Damn I want a ZR1   I had a C6 Z06 which was amazing, but the ZR1 brings it to an even higher level.

Topic: RE: Helicopter Crashes During Filming Of Top Gear Korea
Username: sandyb123
Posted 2013-02-13 05:56:16 and read 3065 times.

Quoting rbgso (Reply 11):
I wonder how civilians got hold of some of these helicopters? I know the military used to have surplus sales, but didn't know it included aircraft.

Yes helicopters come up on army surplus sale for civilian use (with the defence bits removed). I bought an Ex-British military FV 432 APC Mark 2 (tank) last year. Although the 432 doesn't have a gun the Nuclear Service back and RPG fixtures where still active on it, minus the RPGs!

There where helicopters available at that sale in the UK.

Glad nobody was hurt, could have been very different.

Sandyb123

Topic: RE: Helicopter Crashes During Filming Of Top Gear Korea
Username: aztrainer
Posted 2013-02-13 07:42:01 and read 2198 times.

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 14):
But they still have the missiles pod and the machine guns.

They are non-operational and for cosmetic purposes only.

Topic: RE: Helicopter Crashes During Filming Of Top Gear Korea
Username: canoecarrier
Posted 2013-02-13 12:20:10 and read 1974 times.

Quoting ADent (Reply 3):

USA military seems to be less cooperative with TV than UK.

Top Gear UK had a Eurofighter in one of their previous episodes at an active RAF base...

Topic: RE: Helicopter Crashes During Filming Of Top Gear Korea
Username: shufflemoomin
Posted 2013-02-13 16:30:24 and read 1807 times.

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 12):
...and owned or operated by a group that is dedicated to preserving US Army aviation history and aircraft.

Let's see them preserve it now.   On a serious note, glad everyone survived that.


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