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Topic: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: hotplane
Posted 2013-01-16 00:51:27 and read 59609 times.

The new scheme has been confirmed but is delayed until things at the airline improve.

www.skyliner-aviation.de/viewphoto.main?LC=nav2&picid=8198

[Edited 2013-01-16 00:57:55]

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery
Username: ba319-131
Posted 2013-01-16 00:53:50 and read 59711 times.

Could they have made it more bland looking?

What a step backwards!

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: IndianicWorld
Posted 2013-01-16 01:00:30 and read 59563 times.

That is as uninspired as they come if that is true. Even the tail has nothing going for it.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: ushermittwoch
Posted 2013-01-16 01:01:47 and read 59551 times.

Well, I hope that this will not be the final livery. Totally bland.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: MillwallSean
Posted 2013-01-16 01:01:58 and read 59555 times.

I must say this wasnt just bad.
This is a design crime thats worthy of public flogging.

Is it the infamous major consultancy company thats struck again.
Those that plagued the airline industry coming in asking for a new corporate face and identity to lift a company and never addressing the real issues allowing them to return 5 years later and making more pointless changes?
or
are the IB leadership drunk?

Spain usually had decent designs. They care about brand and look. I cant believe this. Luckily with it being delayed I assume it eventually will be shelved. the reception of the press wont be pleasant.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: Aeri28
Posted 2013-01-16 01:04:36 and read 59662 times.

That's terrib le. Looks like one of the usual airliner dot net house designers. (not that there is anything wrong with several of the guys coming up with liveries).

I;d like to see something that the Spain tourism board uses.. something in that vein..



can't figure out how to post an image,..

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dS1kQZhNTv...ABiA/dwl5T8h27u0/s1600/logo852.gif

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: enzedder
Posted 2013-01-16 01:05:05 and read 59603 times.

Plane ugly.    The curent one is fab. Classy.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: qf340500
Posted 2013-01-16 01:06:19 and read 59462 times.

that looks ugly, like a lowcost airline.... at least use a black colour for the words... ahhhhhhhhh

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: andrej
Posted 2013-01-16 01:07:39 and read 59521 times.

Is it April 1st yet? They can not be serious, it is hideous! Another classic is gone!  

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: QANTASvJet
Posted 2013-01-16 01:09:05 and read 59420 times.

Not a total disaster but certainly not great. Had hoped for something showing greater confidence and a clearer Spanish identity. Will AA do better when it's their turn? Interesting that both seem to have gone for extending the tail treatment diagonally down onto the fuselage. Coincidence presumably? At least it's not 100% Euro-white. Just 75%...

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: gr09
Posted 2013-01-16 01:28:53 and read 59271 times.

I don't like it at all. I think their current livery is actually still beautiful. But it only shines on a properly washed plane  

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: debonair
Posted 2013-01-16 01:44:54 and read 59157 times.

Quoting Aeri28 (Reply 5):
I;d like to see something that the Spain tourism board uses.. something in that vein..

Used IBERIA in the 80's for JV carrier VIVA AIR:


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Photo © Javier Rodriguez - Iberian Spotters

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: AR385
Posted 2013-01-16 01:50:50 and read 58937 times.

Quoting MillwallSean (Reply 4):
are the IB leadership drunk?

If they were, it would actually have turned out to be more colorful. This sad, drab, boring scheme looks as if it was thought out by puritanical, sober--never had a drink--people.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: Aeri28
Posted 2013-01-16 01:52:30 and read 58901 times.

Quoting debonair (Reply 11):
Used IBERIA in the 80's for JV carrier VIVA AIR:

thanks for that. That usage is rather sparse though and am not liking the green. I was thinking more vibrant and taking up the entire tail. Just a random guess and thought on my part, I really havne't put too much thought into it..

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: clydenairways
Posted 2013-01-16 02:19:45 and read 58636 times.

Only one word for it. Ugly.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: Ideekay
Posted 2013-01-16 02:25:10 and read 58582 times.

Even worser than AY's new livery..

I loved the "old" one!

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: CRJ900
Posted 2013-01-16 02:28:19 and read 58630 times.

Boring, just like any other livery out there. Their current livery is very Spanish, the warm colours remind us of summer - which is soo Spain, at least to us frozen North Europeans  

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: CapEd388
Posted 2013-01-16 02:30:07 and read 58583 times.

Another airline that opts to go for a more bland and boring livery. Gosh I wanna go over to Spain and give a nice beating to their marketing / branding department.

Just the fact that it's missing the "IB" symbol should be a mortal sin. That symbol is great.

Did all these airlines read the "Guide to Make Your Livery Suck" book?   

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: shamrock350
Posted 2013-01-16 02:31:17 and read 58500 times.

Apart from the red and yellow this lacks any connection with the current Iberia brand or its history, where's the IB logo or the crown? Maybe that was the idea.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: na
Posted 2013-01-16 02:33:05 and read 58677 times.

I hope its just a proxy. Its too pathetic, uninspired and bland to be meant serious. The current one is much, much better.

May I suggest my conecpt:

Idea for Iberia redesign

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: usdcaguy
Posted 2013-01-16 02:33:26 and read 58492 times.

IB has always had one of my favorite designs. To walk through Terminal 4 in Madrid and see those beautiful birds lined up is awesome. Even back in the 80's, I loved their ads and route maps displayed in the New Yorker with the beautiful crown on the logo and all the yellow, orange and red coloring. Let's not give up the awesome look of Iberia that has been around for years; we need to keep its Spanish identity in tact and beautiful as it so often associated with the country itself.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: CuriousFlyer
Posted 2013-01-16 02:39:44 and read 58404 times.

Agreed. It could not be more boring. It looks like all airlines want the same pattern. Why even bother with a brand image then, they should just print their name, adding .com of course to it, in the Arial font in black.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: AF185
Posted 2013-01-16 02:56:01 and read 58230 times.

oh no IB, please don't come up with this livery!

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: gardermoen
Posted 2013-01-16 03:01:43 and read 58163 times.

Oh dear, it's like Air Mauritius gone wrong!

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: TC957
Posted 2013-01-16 03:53:30 and read 57788 times.

Horrible and bland. A Eurowhite ( mostly ) with a painted tail that could mean anything. How inspiring....NOT !
What's Spanish about this scheme ?

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: BlueLine
Posted 2013-01-16 04:05:20 and read 58429 times.

I shouldn't have looked at that picture so early in the morning. It nearly put me right back to sleep. I feel their current livery looks woefully out of date, but I'll take it over another bland Euro-white LCC look.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: lollomz
Posted 2013-01-16 04:30:00 and read 58185 times.

This new scheme is just ORRIBLE! I really hope they will not confirm another ugly livery, it is not spanish at all..... Really ugly, really ugly.......

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: PictionaryMan
Posted 2013-01-16 04:48:18 and read 59505 times.

Hmm .. very interesting ... it has the similarities to the new AA livery ...

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: AirGabon
Posted 2013-01-16 04:57:28 and read 59322 times.

Quoting gardermoen (Reply 23):
Oh dear, it's like Air Mauritius gone wrong!

Yes, I was thinking exactly the same... you were the first! A kind of wrong MK livery.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: bluesky73
Posted 2013-01-16 05:50:21 and read 58822 times.

Seriously? Is this real or a sick joke? Did someone actually get paid to design that or did someone create that in a lunch break (in the pub)?

IAG, Sort out IB issues first and inflight service, the outside is fine and the image is probably what's kept it alive through the tougher years. If you do change it please look up words "creative" and "imaginative", not sure what they are in Spanish.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: Toni_
Posted 2013-01-16 06:18:03 and read 58528 times.

I've seen loads of liveries made by creative people, (the user "na" from reply #19 being one of them) and I thought Iberia couldn't go much wrong. Guess I was wrong there big time!

This looks like some Hainan Airlines subsidiary scheme where the designer fell asleep on the drawing table, found himself waking up at 6:49 in the morning and ran out of time to add some dragon or lion on the tail.

"Them Spanish folks use red and yellow too, innit boss?"

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: shamrock604
Posted 2013-01-16 06:21:18 and read 58449 times.

Awful.

I dont know how anybody could view that as improvement to the current, excellent scheme.

I'm not opposed to changing it: but not this, surely!

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: CamiloA380
Posted 2013-01-16 06:24:50 and read 58896 times.

The livery is meant to be remembered easily, which is the trend. As for whether I like it or not, it's not horrible, its not beautiful, its neutral for me. However, It will probably grow in me just like the AY livery.

Quoting qf340500 (Reply 7):

that looks ugly, like a lowcost airline.... at least use a black colour for the words... ahhhhhhhhh

Lowcost airlines have better liveries these days. 

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: 777jaah
Posted 2013-01-16 06:26:06 and read 58389 times.

really? They did a superb job destroying an excellent scheme and coming out with this super plain-bland livery.

It looks great for a LCC airline (not really), but I guess this is the image IB is looking for.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: lostsound
Posted 2013-01-16 06:27:39 and read 58370 times.

Did they even hire a graphic design agency? Any one with a sense of design and modern day technique would surely not suggest such a bland, cheap and uninspired design for a NATIONAL carrier...

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: PRAirbus
Posted 2013-01-16 06:29:23 and read 58755 times.

Awful!  . What a crime! The current one is VERY attractive, why change it???? NO!!!!!!

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: PRAirbus
Posted 2013-01-16 06:40:34 and read 58262 times.

When are the new A330's arriving? I heard IB will fly them to MIA. So, is this horrible generic new livery going to be launched on the new A330's? Will they be A332 or A333's?

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: Speedbird741
Posted 2013-01-16 06:48:09 and read 58076 times.

Ladies and gentlemen, I somehow doubt this story to be true. There is zero foundation to this story and there is zero reason for Iberia to unveil a new livery and to subsequently say that it will only be introduced when "things at the airline improve".

Speedbird741

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: martinrpo1
Posted 2013-01-16 06:52:35 and read 57824 times.

I don't know about you all, but it seems strange that they would release the new company image just like that. I bet that is not the new livery.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: TheRedBaron
Posted 2013-01-16 06:54:47 and read 57703 times.

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 1):
Could they have made it more bland looking?

What a step backwards!
Quoting andrej (Reply 8):
Is it April 1st yet? They can not be serious

Its terrible, I wonder where all the graphic designers PR and branding guys studied?

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: Superfly
Posted 2013-01-16 06:57:22 and read 58020 times.

This is just awful   

Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 1):
Could they have made it more bland looking?

What a step backwards!

Agreed.

Quoting MillwallSean (Reply 4):
This is a design crime thats worthy of public flogging.

I'd join in on the flogging.
This is just WRONG!


Iberia needs to leave their current livery alone!
Iberia is already beautiful.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: YYZBound
Posted 2013-01-16 06:59:36 and read 57515 times.

Quoting Speedbird741 (Reply 37):

Thank you.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: PRAirbus
Posted 2013-01-16 07:00:21 and read 57474 times.

I agree too! This is must likely a RUMOR!

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: jetblueguy22
Posted 2013-01-16 07:02:57 and read 57351 times.

Man not many fans! I personally think it is way better than the current livery. The old one IMO needed to be changed years ago.
Blue

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: AirCanadaA330
Posted 2013-01-16 07:06:51 and read 57184 times.

Wow...please tell me that it is April 1 and I just missed two and a half months. This has to be a joke....right?

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: kjellverschuren
Posted 2013-01-16 07:27:06 and read 56513 times.

Shouldn't they be using the Spanish flag? I think that the tail should represent the flag, but to me it looks more like a small collection of three colors instead of the national flag.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: r2rho
Posted 2013-01-16 07:27:11 and read 56534 times.

Sorry, but I take this to be a false rumor. I need a bit more sources than just a generic link to an image on the net with no background information at all. I call BS on this one.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: 777way
Posted 2013-01-16 07:29:08 and read 56509 times.

Its not fake, Biman reject livery was introduced in similar way by skyliner.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: Fallap
Posted 2013-01-16 07:30:31 and read 56390 times.

I guess Iberia is trying to outperform AY, in terms of ugly liveries...

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: hotplane
Posted 2013-01-16 07:31:22 and read 56414 times.

There's some text under the small version of the image on the Skyliner website.

[Edited 2013-01-16 07:31:46]

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: YYZYYT
Posted 2013-01-16 07:41:55 and read 56483 times.

Quoting na (Reply 19):
I hope its just a proxy. Its too pathetic, uninspired and bland to be meant serious. The current one is much, much better.

May I suggest my conecpt:


Idea for Iberia redesign

Love your idea - watching your livery taxi past will be kinda' like watching a CP Air DC 8 pushing back!


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Photo © Udo K. Haafke

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: na
Posted 2013-01-16 07:44:16 and read 55872 times.

Quoting YYZYYT (Reply 50):
Love your idea - watching your livery taxi past will be kinda' like watching a CP Air DC 8 pushing back!

Thanks. I indeed had that in mind, the CP Air livery is one of my alltime favourites! So outstanding and somewhat timeless.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: AA94
Posted 2013-01-16 07:45:49 and read 55840 times.

Quoting r2rho (Reply 46):
Sorry, but I take this to be a false rumor. I need a bit more sources than just a generic link to an image on the net with no background information at all. I call BS on this one.

  

I call BS as well. There's been no announcement from Iberia, and, even in the days of bland-ish Eurowhite paint schemes, I'm having a hard time believing that a branding agency would actually come up with this.

To me, it looks like an avgeek just played around in Illustrator a bit and produced this gem.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: mbmbos
Posted 2013-01-16 07:54:59 and read 55135 times.

Although a bit on the practical side, I think it's a very nice change. I know a lot of people like IB's current design but I think it looks very dated; a late seventies look for sure.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: spud757
Posted 2013-01-16 07:57:43 and read 55100 times.

What a boring design.

Would love to see BA's current tail livery style on IB aircraft - replacing the Blue & Red flag details with Yellow & Red flag details. Then red underneath the fuselage and on the engines (replacing BAs blue).
Finally the exisiting IB red/yellow crown logo to be incorporated within IBERIA titles over the front section of a white fuselage.

I think this would bring BA/IB corporate identites closer together under a common theme as part of IAG whilst both retaining the colours of their respective nation's flags and their respective trademark logos e.g. BA's Speedbird and IB's crown.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: KaiTak747
Posted 2013-01-16 08:02:03 and read 54902 times.

Quoting r2rho (Reply 46):

Sorry, but I take this to be a false rumor. I need a bit more sources than just a generic link to an image on the net with no background information at all. I call BS on this one.

Beat me to it. This is most likely a mock up by an enthusiast. Would IAG allow this? My money is on a total rebrand by Landor, similar to BA.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: questions
Posted 2013-01-16 08:24:28 and read 54183 times.

Looks similar to what we know about AA's new livery. The new "Euro white."

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: cambridgeflyer1
Posted 2013-01-16 08:35:02 and read 54109 times.

As soon as I saw this topic I thought finally an improvement on the current scheme! Unfortunately this hasn't happened...   

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: shuttle9juliet
Posted 2013-01-16 08:35:59 and read 53752 times.

Just leave it the way it is, if it ain't broke!!! Plus wasting money on something they don't really need to do.

Does changing a livery, make the airline more financially secure??

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: Giancavia
Posted 2013-01-16 08:46:43 and read 53354 times.

I think its a pile of **** like all of the new liveries have been for years but they could salvage it slightly by getting an I.. IB on that bland empty tail. Do it, DO IT NOW!

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: Superfly
Posted 2013-01-16 08:48:53 and read 53290 times.

Can anyone in Madrid get the management at Iberia to read this thread?
They seriously need to scrap this terrible idea.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: gdg9
Posted 2013-01-16 08:53:50 and read 53129 times.

The current livery is fine, a classic, and no need for a change IMHO. This proposal is boring and dull.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: 2008matt
Posted 2013-01-16 08:57:04 and read 53035 times.

Quoting na (Reply 19):

Like it very much, your idea not Iberia's obviously. How hard can it be to create a decent livery, send it out as a competition where designers can fight for their designs and Iberia chooses the best. This one just looks like it was done on the cheap by Mr Boring as five minutes worth of work.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: BOAC911
Posted 2013-01-16 09:35:01 and read 51991 times.

At first sight I noticed the following three things: (1) No crown (2) No more "IB"(which has been quintessentially Iberia for decades) and (3) All-caps lettering of titles, which has been done before such as IB's 727, 747, and DC10 in the early 1970s , but the lettering is no longer italicized. In my opinion a mistake: italics convey movement, swiftness... (recent example is Alitalia)

[Edited 2013-01-16 10:02:14]

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: questions
Posted 2013-01-16 09:52:36 and read 51435 times.

Qantas, (new) AA, and now IB will have similar tail design lines relative to the fuselage... and they are all in oneworld.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: SXDFC
Posted 2013-01-16 09:55:03 and read 51282 times.

It looks nice on paper, but I will save my final judgement until they unveil it on an Actual A/C. Sometimes the actual livery can look a bit different vs the drawings.

For those who are complaining about it, think about this, many airlines as we all know don't have much money to begin with, and some of your ideas would cost a shit load of money to paint onto an actual airplane. Although I like the current IB livery, they don't do it any justice by flying it around looking all dirty and faded.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: aerdingus
Posted 2013-01-16 09:55:07 and read 51553 times.

That is dire!! I´m going to miss the funny stripes  

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: Giancavia
Posted 2013-01-16 09:58:59 and read 51128 times.

Quoting BOAC911 (Reply 63):
Qantas, (new) AA, and now IB will have similar tail design lines relative to the fuselage... and they are all in oneworld.

There is nothing interesting left to photograph. Growing up not that long ago I remember 727s, DC8's, Tristars.. etc etc.. All kinds of old props, shaes and sizes. Now everything is a 737 or A320... So you think maybe you can fall back on the liveries to keep you entertained but nope they are all copying each other into the kingdom of the bland. Its embarrassing that the best modern day branding folk could come up with is this garbage. Finnair, JAL.. The list of crap is endless.. total borefest. I don't even do aviation photography any longer because it bores the living life out of me.

I realise me liking a livery wont make it a successful airline but from and enthusiast point of view and on an aircraft photography website I have to say it is all very disappointing.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: Concorde001
Posted 2013-01-16 10:13:09 and read 51163 times.

Awful!

This would have been much better:

http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/photos/big/00013618.jpg
http://www.cardatabase.net/modifiedairlinerphotos/photos/big/00012904.jpg

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: EK413
Posted 2013-01-16 10:40:54 and read 49679 times.

Quoting hotplane (Thread starter):
The new scheme has been confirmed but is delayed until things at the airline improve.

www.skyliner-aviation.de/viewphoto.m...=8198

That's one small step for man, one giant leap backwards for Iberian Airlines...

EK413

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: Braybuddy
Posted 2013-01-16 10:58:13 and read 49052 times.

I'm scratching my head trying to figure out exactly WHAT this design represents . . . and the only answer I can come-up with is: NOTHING! I really hope this is some amateur effort posted online.

Quoting na (Reply 19):
May I suggest my conecpt:

Fantastic! Would be a real head-turner!

Quoting Concorde001 (Reply 68):
This would have been much better

Much better than the supposed new livery . . .

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: LH408
Posted 2013-01-16 11:26:30 and read 48113 times.

OH WOW !! What a boring New Colors for Iberia !!!!

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: NDiesel
Posted 2013-01-16 11:42:37 and read 47526 times.

Oh my... What a fail.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: Independence76
Posted 2013-01-16 11:52:46 and read 47295 times.

I'm surprised you guys hate it this much.

Take a look at JL or AY and you have something ten times more bland than this. At least it has a whole portion of the fuselage with legitimate color.


It's certainly not a perfect livery, but it's passable in my opinion.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: Giancavia
Posted 2013-01-16 11:56:32 and read 47112 times.

Quoting Independence76 (Reply 73):
Take a look at JL or AY and you have something ten times more bland than this. At least it has a whole portion of the fuselage with legitimate color.

Comparing it with 2 of the worst liveries thought up in recent times does it no favours. Its a shocker, They need to get an IB or a crown.. some sort of logo on top of those tail colours. A painted belly or a cheat line would also help, Jesus Christ a red clown nose would look better at this moment in time.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: laca773
Posted 2013-01-16 12:16:41 and read 46449 times.

Quoting MillwallSean (Reply 4):

Spain usually had decent designs. They care about brand and look. I cant believe this. Luckily with it being delayed I assume it eventually

They stopped caring when they came out with that dirty scheme for Vueling, then IB Express. Bad! Bad!
You would think IAG would be much more creative. BA's scheme is very classy. It seems like they don't care, like IB is stereotypical step-child.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: mfc
Posted 2013-01-16 12:44:53 and read 45657 times.

Don't worry guys, Iberia has said via Twitter that they are not changing the livery.

Anyway, I think that a change of livery is needed because the current one was released in 1977 and the colors being very bright and in the upper part of the fuselage makes them fade away quickly, something that looks awful. I think that they have to keep the IB logo, its very representative.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: Hooverman
Posted 2013-01-16 12:47:30 and read 45607 times.

This livery is terrible.

Quoting questions (Reply 64):
Qantas, (new) AA, and now IB will have similar tail design lines relative to the fuselage... and they are all in oneworld.

Are you saying that AA's new livery is revealed? I stopped reading the massive threads some time ago.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: VC10er
Posted 2013-01-16 12:48:37 and read 45507 times.

I know this can come as sour grapes as Landor did the original decades ago, and it was a bit dated by I agree, but this might be the #1 most disgusting and vile a design for anything I have ever seen.

I am SPEECHLESS.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: rakoon
Posted 2013-01-16 12:52:52 and read 45373 times.

There's no official confirmation about this bland livery. Even from their official twitter they're saying that the new A330 only will have new interiors.

Iberia ‏@Iberia
@tcpazafatavuelo @JositoMad Hola, la librea no cambiará en los nuevos A330; sólo los interiores. Un saludo.

https://twitter.com/Iberia

In Spain we're speculating a lot about a new livery in IB, but with the actual situation in the company, I think that there are another major problems that a new scheme to think about.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: steex
Posted 2013-01-16 13:00:43 and read 45066 times.

Quoting 777way (Reply 47):
Its not fake, Biman reject livery was introduced in similar way by skyliner.

In that case, there's always hope that this livery will be aborted just like BG's was!

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: Vasu
Posted 2013-01-16 13:15:28 and read 44593 times.

Booooring!

Considering BA's colourscheme's pretty good, I was expecting more of IB.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: bluewave 707
Posted 2013-01-16 13:16:01 and read 44602 times.

Bad move ... looks too common ....

The design in post #88 is way better!

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: PieterBoth
Posted 2013-01-16 13:25:34 and read 44572 times.

Quoting gardermoen (Reply 23):
Oh dear, it's like Air Mauritius gone wrong!

This made me laugh  

I thought Air Mauritius' new livery was bad, but this one takes it to a whole new level!

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: L0VE2FLY
Posted 2013-01-16 13:56:07 and read 43348 times.

Did they actually pay someone to design this!!! Hope they won't go for it, their current livery is much classier. And what's with all of those airlines copying Qantas by extending the tail fin color lines to the fuselage, just five days ago Pullmantur Air and now Iberia! Plus many others in the past.

Airlines are getting too creative at downgrading their liveries, Finnair, JAL, and Air New Zealand with their proposed black & white c/s are all big steps backwards IMO.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: airjamaica
Posted 2013-01-16 17:12:48 and read 39143 times.

Only one word can aptly describe IB's new proposed livery if that is really the case......BORING. No creativity whatsoever. Of late airline new liveries have left much to be desired. Epic design failure IB. Might as well they keep the original one !!!

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: airtrainer
Posted 2013-01-16 20:03:03 and read 36690 times.

Quoting na (Reply 19):
May I suggest my conecpt:

Love it !

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: bohica
Posted 2013-01-16 20:12:32 and read 36676 times.

Quoting Thesaurus.com:

Main Entry:
boring  [bawr-ing, bohr-] Show IPA
Part of Speech: adjective
Definition: uninteresting
Synonyms: arid, bomb*, bromidic, bummer, characterless, cloying, colorless, commonplace, dead*, drab, drag*, drudging, dull, flat*, ho hum, humdrum, insipid, interminable, irksome, lifeless, monotonous, moth-eaten, mundane, nothing, nowhere, platitudinous, plebeian, prosaic, repetitious, routine, spiritless, stale, stereotyped, stodgy, stuffy, stupid, tame, tedious, threadbare, tiresome, tiring, trite, unexciting, uninteresting, unvaried, vapid, wearisome, well-worn, zero*

* = informal/non-formal usage

Now we can add a new synonym - Iberia's new livery.   

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: mesaflyguy
Posted 2013-01-16 21:49:29 and read 35410 times.

This new look just looks......cheap. The letttering looks like it was a crappily installed decal and TACA could probably sue IB for copyright on the tail. The whole thing just doesn't come together and the end result is just a travesty. I'd take the IB Express livery over this.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: Owleye
Posted 2013-01-17 03:23:32 and read 33476 times.

I cannot believe it. This what I call a 'crisis look'. No feel, no look. A no-no.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: TC957
Posted 2013-01-17 03:36:57 and read 33419 times.

Re image in reply 68 - maybe add a thin or stylized red & yellow cheatline between the white top and grey undersides to break the Eurowhiteness up a bit ??

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: Jambost
Posted 2013-01-17 05:59:46 and read 33070 times.

Cannot see this happening, I hope its all just a rumour!

IB should follow in EI 's footsteps, go low cost if you have to, but stay classy! just clean your planes!

[Edited 2013-01-17 06:00:39]

Quoting na (Reply 19):
Quoting Concorde001 (Reply 68):


If the rumours are true,

Submit your designs to them!
It would be a crime if they chose theirs over yours, you both deserve credit for your ideas!


[Edited 2013-01-17 06:10:28]

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: babybus
Posted 2013-01-17 06:33:38 and read 32915 times.

Quoting na (Reply 19):
May I suggest my conecpt:

Gorgeous!!! but would involve a lot of paint. I'm guessing IB have kinda run out of money and can't afford anything fancy.

The new livery is obviously 'off the peg' hence it's blandness. Yuk.Yuk.Yuk.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: LH526
Posted 2013-01-17 06:35:56 and read 33044 times.

Quoting babybus (Reply 92):
Gorgeous!!! but would involve a lot of paint. I'm guessing IB have kinda run out of money and can't afford anything fancy.

White is a paint as well .. so is red   But red is slightly heavier than white, so that might be an issue  

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: 777way
Posted 2013-01-17 11:42:14 and read 32216 times.

Adding orange as a third colour carried over from current scheme, might make it somewhat better.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: garpd
Posted 2013-01-17 15:52:36 and read 31846 times.

That supposed colour scheme is pretty close to what I came up with when a friend of mine asked me to let my mind go wild:

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: mfc
Posted 2013-01-18 02:14:41 and read 30892 times.

That last livery is awesome, it has the color that the other one needs.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: IDISA
Posted 2013-01-18 03:01:45 and read 30752 times.

Oh man...what a disaster!!! It's ugly!! The ones suggested y other people are way much better than the official one...

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: jumpjets
Posted 2013-01-18 03:32:39 and read 30650 times.

I love GARPD's suggestions, especially the second one - but maybe have the IBERIA typeface the same as that used by BA for some family consistency and slot the little crown from the existing scheme in front of the name...

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: garpd
Posted 2013-01-18 04:52:32 and read 30434 times.

Funny how you say that jumpjets... for I did exactly that at first and found it a little clumsy. I'll re-instate those ideas and post here later.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: A388
Posted 2013-01-18 05:20:58 and read 30352 times.

The livery suggestions garpd has are much better in my opinion. The other new livery that IB apparently is going for has no imagination.

A388

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: Bthebest
Posted 2013-01-18 06:24:22 and read 30202 times.

It seems that airlines think following the straight line from the vertical stabiliser is the way to go, when the much more flowing designs suggested by people on here are much better. The new AA livery suffers from that as well.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: mfc
Posted 2013-01-29 11:35:02 and read 28727 times.

I have a terrible notice for most of you guys.

http://www.planespotters.net/Aviation_Photos/photo.show?id=352689

If you see the engine, you can see that the new design has been applied.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: bluesky73
Posted 2013-01-29 11:57:08 and read 28272 times.

Oh dear, thanks MFC, although not sure i actually wanted to see it. Another sad day in aviation and brand history.
That livery at start of post will add insult to injury to IB staff.

Clearly image doesn't matter to some company directors and design teams (if you can call them that) these days.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: cargolex
Posted 2013-01-29 12:03:48 and read 28197 times.

Quoting mfc (Reply 102):
If you see the engine, you can see that the new design has been applied.

Ew. I honestly thought this was some flight simmer's fantasy. Hopefully it won't be as dreadful as what's in the initial post.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: na
Posted 2013-01-29 12:12:48 and read 28078 times.

Quoting mfc (Reply 102):
I have a terrible notice for most of you guys.

http://www.planespotters.net/Aviation_Photos/photo.show?id=352689

If you see the engine, you can see that the new design has been applied.

The Iberia management obviously is another bunch of tasteless suits who cant tell good from bad. No wonder the company is in shit if they let such rubbish see the light of day.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: mfc
Posted 2013-01-29 12:47:30 and read 27746 times.

I think you are exaggerating. I don't think it is that horrible. Okay, the new livery is very simple, but I don't find it any different from others like AF or LH. What's more, I think that the new Iberia titles are nice.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: 777way
Posted 2013-01-29 13:10:10 and read 27820 times.

with orange and flowy look.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a40/techsavy/iberia_zps92825ec5.png

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: Wisdom
Posted 2013-01-29 13:42:01 and read 27258 times.

If it is to paint the aircraft in that scheme, it's better not to paint at all.
Those in management who approved of this scheme should be fired.

The new AA scheme is marvelous compared to this.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: r2rho
Posted 2013-01-30 01:41:02 and read 26105 times.

Quoting mfc (Reply 102):
I have a terrible notice for most of you guys.

http://www.planespotters.net/Aviation_Photos/photo.show?id=352689

If you see the engine, you can see that the new design has been applied.

So it is true... this is horrible news. IB had a very distinct livery that did not need any major update. There was nothing that needed to be fixed. And the IB logo is timeless, like the KLM crown and similar. By killing it, they are killing the brand. Adding this to the recent "events" at the airline, I am now more convinced than ever that they will run the company to the ground.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: filLPA
Posted 2013-01-30 01:58:03 and read 26124 times.

Quoting mfc (Reply 102):



I just received a Facebook message from Iberia: "Los nuevos A330, que empezarán a llegar en unas 3 semanas, mantendrán la librea actual. ¡Saludos!"

"The new A330, which will start to arrive in about 3 weeks time, will keep the current (old) livery."

[Edited 2013-01-30 01:59:29]

[Edited 2013-01-30 02:02:43]

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: Braybuddy
Posted 2013-01-30 02:11:45 and read 25955 times.

Quoting filLPA (Reply 110):
"The new A330, which will start to arrive in about 3 weeks time, will retain the current (old) livery."

Does this announcement mean a re-think? Why would Iberia make a statement like this unless they were having second thoughts about this new livery? Have they been following this thread?

It's not too late to dump this unbelieveably bland, nondescript livery and go for something dramatic like na's proposal (in post 19), which to me is a superb progression of the current one. It's a stricking, dramatic 21st century version and there for the taking . . .

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: KarelXWB
Posted 2013-01-30 02:19:18 and read 26016 times.

Quoting filLPA (Reply 110):
"The new A330, which will start to arrive in about 3 weeks time, will keep the current (old) livery."

But that's not the aircraft in the above picture. The new A330 due for delivery in 3 weeks is MSN 1377 (EC-LUB) which indeed does not has the new stripes on the engines. MSN 1385 however, the 'second new' A330, does has it.

/edit

Wait. MSN 1377 had all white engines for some time:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/florent_peraudeau/8370301969/

But it now has the new stripes too (picture taken today):

http://www.flickr.com/photos/openskyphotographer/8429705894/

Confusing.

[Edited 2013-01-30 02:25:30]

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: EagleBoy
Posted 2013-01-30 02:24:07 and read 25842 times.

Personally I didn't think there was anything wrong with the current livery.......made a change from Euro white fuselage. This 'new' livery joins that club

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: seahawk
Posted 2013-01-30 02:32:38 and read 25818 times.

On facebook, Iberia said they will keep the old livery, when I asked them.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: gr09
Posted 2013-01-30 02:44:18 and read 25765 times.

Quoting garpd (Reply 95):
That supposed colour scheme is pretty close to what I came up with when a friend of mine asked me to let my mind go wild

The top one is very sexy!

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: KarelXWB
Posted 2013-01-30 03:17:04 and read 25632 times.

Quoting seahawk (Reply 114):
On facebook, Iberia said they will keep the old livery, when I asked them.

I believe you but it remains confusing why the engines of 2 new A330s have been painted with the new stripes.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: seahawk
Posted 2013-01-30 04:44:11 and read 25236 times.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 116):
I believe you but it remains confusing why the engines of 2 new A330s have been painted with the new stripes.

I would not bet on the facebook response either.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: 777way
Posted 2013-01-30 04:52:52 and read 25211 times.

New stripes? are those stripes? or desifn / logo.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: Darksnowynight
Posted 2013-01-30 06:19:05 and read 24886 times.

Quoting na (Reply 19):

That's a very good design, and certainly gets my vote.

Quoting na (Reply 51):
I indeed had that in mind, the CP Air livery is one of my alltime favourites! So outstanding and somewhat timeless.

CP indeed... Definitely one of the top ten liveries ever, I must agree. I'd love to have seen that scheme with the oranges swapped away for greens...

Quoting Superfly (Reply 60):
Can anyone in Madrid get the management at Iberia to read this thread?
They seriously need to scrap this terrible idea.

It's not terrible. It's just that everything else is so much better. And yes, they need to be reading this!

Quoting babybus (Reply 92):

Gorgeous!!! but would involve a lot of paint. I'm guessing IB have kinda run out of money and can't afford anything fancy.

White's a paint too. They're going to paint it whatever they do.

Quoting garpd (Reply 95):

That's nice too. Yellow is actually a great color for bellies; it hides skydrol/hyjet streaks (which love to build up immediately aft of the wing-to-body fairings on Airbus products) very well...

Quoting mfc (Reply 106):
I think you are exaggerating. I don't think it is that horrible. Okay, the new livery is very simple, but I don't find it any different from others like AF or LH. What's more, I think that the new Iberia titles are nice

I like it too. I actually do believe that EuroWhite can be done very well. And this is not a bad application. But it's just that all the other ideas are so much better (well, except for that awful one with the 767 & 747s there...). As well, the livery that IB has now is also better, and so unique in the world. I don't like for IB to lose that, but if they must, it should be for something truly grand. Just Sayin...

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: SXI899
Posted 2013-01-30 08:08:51 and read 24542 times.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 112):
But that's not the aircraft in the above picture. The new A330 due for delivery in 3 weeks is MSN 1377 (EC-LUB) which indeed does not has the new stripes on the engines. MSN 1385 however, the 'second new' A330, does has it.

/edit

Wait. MSN 1377 had all white engines for some time:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/florent_peraudeau/8370301969/

But it now has the new stripes too (picture taken today):

http://www.flickr.com/photos/openskyphotographer/8429705894/

Confusing.

The second image is from the future EC-LUK (MSN1385), which would suggest that there is still a chance that the first A333 will indeed have the current colour scheme.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: KarelXWB
Posted 2013-01-30 08:13:54 and read 24439 times.

Quoting SXI899 (Reply 120):
The second image is from the future EC-LUK (MSN1385),

But the guy who made ​​the picture claims it's MSN1377, so that is the confusing part.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: ual777uk
Posted 2013-01-30 08:18:35 and read 24412 times.

Quoting hotplane (Thread starter):
The new scheme has been confirmed but is delayed until things at the airline improve.

When will that be, 2020!?

Quoting r2rho (Reply 46):
Sorry, but I take this to be a false rumor. I need a bit more sources than just a generic link to an image on the net with no background information at all. I call BS on this one.

I am inclined to agree and hope you are right.....Whether they are doing it now or not most ailines keep any new livery under wraps until the official announcement an when it does get let out early its usually a photoof a bird in hanger not some web site mock up.Fingers crossed!

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: Tango-Bravo
Posted 2013-01-30 09:29:55 and read 24113 times.

Quoting hotplane (Thread starter):
The new scheme has been confirmed but is delayed until things at the airline improve.

So then...if this actually be true... fans of IB's current livery (myself included) need not worry about the new scheme making its official debut anytime soon. Unless, of course, they plan to dumb down the definition of "improve" considerably.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: shuttle9juliet
Posted 2013-01-30 10:32:14 and read 23903 times.

I think these airlines in dire straits need to stop wasting needless money on new logos,livery ect and concentrate on their passengers needs, and look after their network, alliances, staff ect ect.

Too many fat cat chief executives thinking they are god and can do what they like ruining airlines in return...

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: BlueShamu330s
Posted 2013-01-30 11:09:22 and read 23730 times.

Quoting shuttle9juliet (Reply 124):

I think these airlines in dire straits need to stop wasting needless money on new logos,livery ect and concentrate on their passengers needs, and look after their network, alliances, staff ect ect.

Too many fat cat chief executives thinking they are god and can do what they like ruining airlines in return...

If the re-branding has been done in house, then cost is going to be minimal.

Signage will obviously cost something, but if resprays are done to the fleet during routine maintenance or when an individual frame is due a respray, then a fresh overhaul which grabs the travelling public's attention can be a very worthy cause.

Rgds

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: shuttle9juliet
Posted 2013-01-30 11:22:18 and read 23630 times.

Quoting BlueShamu330s (Reply 125):

Thanks BlueShamu330' that's a valid point, although sometimes the public don't even notice..On a note ( please correct) a re spray and scuff on a 319 costs somewhere like £36000' so it is a lot of money to paint new aircraft. Offcourse after major checks this is necessary.
I think Iberia would be similar to UAL in painting practises..

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: mfc
Posted 2013-01-30 12:03:35 and read 23949 times.

Quoting shuttle9juliet (Reply 124):

I think these airlines in dire straits need to stop wasting needless money on new logos,livery ect and concentrate on their passengers needs, and look after their network, alliances, staff ect ect.

Iberia is refurbishing the interiors of the 346 fleet with PTVs in all classes, mood lighting, etc. (the 330s will obviously come with the new interiors) and there are a lot of plans to improve service on board and on ground. So it is not just changing the livery, is changing a lot of things; so in this case a change of image is very important to show that Iberia is becoming a improved airline.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: A388
Posted 2013-01-30 12:07:06 and read 23900 times.

Quoting shuttle9juliet (Reply 126):
Thanks BlueShamu330' that's a valid point, although sometimes the public don't even notice..On a note ( please correct) a re spray and scuff on a 319 costs somewhere like £36000' so it is a lot of money to paint new aircraft.

I think what BlueShamu330 meant to say was this:

Quoting shuttle9juliet (Reply 126):
Offcourse after major checks this is necessary.

In any case, I hope IB will rethink their new livery. I like the font type, but the rest needs a lot more work.

A388

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: laca773
Posted 2013-01-31 05:50:27 and read 23154 times.

Quoting garpd (Reply 95):
That supposed colour scheme is pretty close to what I came up with when a friend of mine asked me to let my mind go wild:

This is such an improvement over what they decided to go with once they get things stabilized @ IB. The only thing I may suggest is adding the crowne, even if it's very discreet. The winglets can use a splash of the wavy colors as well.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: qf002
Posted 2013-01-31 15:34:14 and read 22493 times.

Quoting laca773 (Reply 129):
The only thing I may suggest is adding the crowne, even if it's very discreet.

It's already there down near the rego. I'd like to see it up next to the titles though.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: n729pa
Posted 2013-02-01 05:29:43 and read 21886 times.

Quoting shuttle9juliet (Reply 124):
I think these airlines in dire straits need to stop wasting needless money on new logos,livery ect and concentrate on their passengers needs, and look after their network, alliances, staff ect ect.

Too many fat cat chief executives thinking they are god and can do what they like ruining airlines in return...




Spot on and I agree 100%

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: na
Posted 2013-02-01 05:50:12 and read 21831 times.

Quoting n729pa (Reply 131):

Quoting shuttle9juliet (Reply 124):
I think these airlines in dire straits need to stop wasting needless money on new logos,livery ect and concentrate on their passengers needs, and look after their network, alliances, staff ect ect.

Too many fat cat chief executives thinking they are god and can do what they like ruining airlines in return...


Spot on and I agree 100%

Not 100% spot on, sorry. Like you need new clothes from time to time, companies also do. And sometimes the time to do so is not the time with big money, its the time they feel the need to set a signal.

A redesign may be costly, but its hardly of an amount to bring further trouble. There are worse money wasters they could have turned to. Also equipment, signboards and paints need to be renewed due to technical reasons anyway after some time.

The problem here with IB is especially the quality of the "new clothes". If its indicative of the management´s abilities to deliver a good job, and it should, I have grave fears for Iberia.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: ThePinnacleKid
Posted 2013-02-02 08:17:30 and read 20987 times.

Perhaps its me, but, the main thing I see missing from the "new" colors is a logo... there isn't a single logo to it... I would love to see a new stylized crown even!

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: IBERIA747
Posted 2013-02-02 09:14:10 and read 20870 times.

At this moment I still don't know what to believe.

On one side we have this "supposedly" official new livery. This has been backed up by more recent images showing one of the new A330s during taxi tests in TLS with the "new colors" on its engines, plus, the photos of the new Business/Economy seats also show the new Iberia titles on the PTVs.

On the other hand, we have Iberia denying the livery change through their Facebook and Twitter channels, and repeating once and again that the new A330s will get the current livery. Also, there is a brand new A320 at TLS, about to be delivered and which has been painted with their current colors.

There has been a lot of discussion on Spanish forums about this, until the last couple of days when two people said they could confirm that, according to reliable sources, the new colors on MSN1385's engines would be removed on friday (yesterday) or saturday (today), and that the new A330s would be definitely be getting Iberia's current/old livery.

The only thing we know for sure is that MSN1377 will be delivered this coming Tuesday (Feb 5th). However, it hasn't been confirmed if it's coming to Madrid right after delivery or if it will be taken to AMS to be painted first.

Only two more days to go, so we're about to find out.

[Edited 2013-02-02 09:43:30]

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: Asturias
Posted 2013-02-02 09:38:14 and read 20778 times.

Quoting mfc (Reply 76):
Don't worry guys, Iberia has said via Twitter that they are not changing the livery.

Thank goodness.

Iberia has one of the best liveries in the world, were they to change I would think that they'd try to keep that standard.

-a

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: iahmark
Posted 2013-02-02 10:06:05 and read 20944 times.

Quoting mfc (Reply 76):
Quoting mfc (Reply 76):
Don't worry guys, Iberia has said via Twitter that they are not changing the livery.

Anyway, I think that a change of livery is needed because the current one was released in 1977 and the colors being very bright and in the upper part of the fuselage makes them fade away quickly, something that looks awful. I think that they have to keep the IB logo, its very representative.

^^
Are you sure??
There a few pictures of the A333 with the new IB logo on their engines, I don’t think they would go to all this trouble just to paint back the old livery.

F-WWYQ // EC-LUK Iberia (new colors) Airbus A330-302 - cn 1385 by Flox Papa, on Flickr


Make no mistake, I like the old three color livery and I see nothing wrong with it, maybe stylize the IB ‘s logo on the tail if so desired but that’s all I would do.

Also if the company is not doing too well financially it makes no sense to repaint the fleet now, the brand is plenty recognizable now and maybe –just maybe - do a new scheme when better times roll in.

PS: The new logo/color scheme looks dead to me…hopefully they got free of charge because a kindergartener could have done better.

[Edited 2013-02-02 10:07:50]

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: SCQ83
Posted 2013-02-02 10:12:29 and read 20809 times.

Quoting Giancavia (Reply 74):
Comparing it with 2 of the worst liveries thought up in recent times does it no favours. Its a shocker, They need to get an IB or a crown.. some sort of logo on top of those tail colours. A painted belly or a cheat line would also help, Jesus Christ a red clown nose would look better at this moment in time.

Maybe they are expecting the abolition of the monarchy soon  ... now in all seriousness the Spanish monarchy is involved in a few scandals (largely linked to corruption) that would be totally unheard of only 5 years ago... they might think getting rid of the crown is a sign of modernness or stepping into the 21st century (I would think so).

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: BOACCunard
Posted 2013-02-03 06:29:55 and read 19975 times.

If IB actually changed its mind about introducing a new livery late enough that the new A330s were already partly painted in it, that doesn't give me a great deal of confidence in its management.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: clydenairways
Posted 2013-02-03 11:38:09 and read 19490 times.

Quoting BOACCunard (Reply 138):
If IB actually changed its mind about introducing a new livery late enough that the new A330s were already partly painted in it, that doesn't give me a great deal of confidence in its management.

Well it worldn't be the first time a brand change backfired and had to go back to the drawing board. Remember BA World tails?

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: BlueShamu330s
Posted 2013-02-03 11:58:12 and read 19439 times.

It may have been decided that, whilst IAG negotiate the required changes to Iberia with the unions, it might appear at best poor timing to seemingly spend a fortune on a rebrand whilst people are being made redundant or asked to work more for less, so it might have been put on ice until a later date.

Far better to get the tough negotiations and steps out of the way and then re-launch the company with the rebrand, pretty much like Delta did and American are doing.

Rgds

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: solnabo
Posted 2013-02-04 08:21:12 and read 18696 times.

Me gusta very much... IB´s all new seating section http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dwxlZrmouc

Saludos

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: KarelXWB
Posted 2013-02-15 04:13:29 and read 17217 times.

Airbus delivered the first A330 (EC-LUB) today. It has the old livery.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: r2rho
Posted 2013-02-15 06:20:38 and read 16723 times.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 142):
Airbus delivered the first A330 (EC-LUB) today. It has the old livery.

There is also an A320 sitting around XFW with the old livery... so, if confirmed to be true, at least for now it does not seem to be applied.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: JD747
Posted 2013-02-15 11:27:06 and read 16209 times.

First landing in MAD today

http://youtu.be/WVEFqHYVnlY

Regards

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: Carmelo
Posted 2013-02-15 11:38:36 and read 15966 times.

Quoting r2rho (Reply 143):

Truly, they don't have the money for repainting all the fleet at the moment. Period.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: bluesky73
Posted 2013-02-16 01:12:48 and read 15062 times.

Great news that IB Have not applied that bland livery to its new aircraft. As mentioned above best to tone the airline up financially and structually first then maybe in couple of years refresh current livery but keep the IB and crown somewhere in rebrand.

New IB A333 looks awesome!

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: zkojq
Posted 2013-02-16 21:17:03 and read 14092 times.

Good to know that Iberia has been receptive to the fact that few (if any) people like that ugly new livery. There isn't really anything wrong with the old-livery, as proven by how good this A330 looks.
Here is an interior shot:
Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 142):
(EC-LUB)

Why didn't they start from the beginning of the alphabet? Logically, that aircraft should be EC-LUA.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: bluesky73
Posted 2013-02-17 04:37:06 and read 13449 times.

Spanish aircraft don't appear to have registrations that run in sequence, always random and occasionally bundled together.

Maybe can confirm Spanish registration rules?

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: skipness1E
Posted 2013-02-17 05:25:35 and read 13270 times.

Quoting bluesky73 (Reply 148):
Spanish aircraft don't appear to have registrations that run in sequence, always random and occasionally bundled together.

They do run in sequence, it seems that you can't block out a sequence for your fleet though, as registrations are given out on delivery.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: bluesky73
Posted 2013-02-17 06:25:35 and read 13002 times.

Yes sorry that what I meant, you can't block book, thanks for clarifying.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: zkojq
Posted 2013-02-17 18:57:45 and read 12165 times.

Quoting bluesky73 (Reply 148):
Quoting skipness1E (Reply 149):

Interesting, thank-you for the info.  

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: AR385
Posted 2013-02-17 20:35:38 and read 12002 times.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 142):
Airbus delivered the first A330 (EC-LUB) today. It has the old livery.
Quoting zkojq (Reply 147):
Why didn't they start from the beginning of the alphabet? Logically, that aircraft should be EC-LUA.

The next one is going to be EC-KYY.

Topic: RE: Iberia New Livery (Picture)
Username: IBERIA747
Posted 2013-02-18 02:41:39 and read 11583 times.

Quoting AR385 (Reply 152):
Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 142):
Airbus delivered the first A330 (EC-LUB) today. It has the old livery.
Quoting zkojq (Reply 147):
Why didn't they start from the beginning of the alphabet? Logically, that aircraft should be EC-LUA.

The next one is going to be EC-KYY.

The next one (msn 1385) is EC-LUK.


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