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Topic: Man Slaps Infant On DL Flight
Username: JoePatroni707
Posted 2013-02-15 17:59:10 and read 10596 times.

Have not heard about this before..

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/baby-slapped-on-plane-571923

Topic: RE: Man Slaps Infant On DL Flight
Username: dtwlax
Posted 2013-02-15 18:35:20 and read 10428 times.

Seems like a bogus story.
A guy in 16C gets up and sees a guy in 28A slapping a kid? All this on final descent?
If he did get up to investigate, why did the FA's not do anything? Did they just let him walk over to row 28 when the plane is about to land?

Topic: RE: Man Slaps Infant On DL Flight
Username: ridgid727
Posted 2013-02-15 18:40:09 and read 10390 times.

Quoting dtwlax (Reply 1):
Seems like a bogus story.
A guy in 16C gets up and sees a guy in 28A slapping a kid? All this on final descent?
If he did get up to investigate, why did the FA's not do anything? Did they just let him walk over to row 28 when the plane is about to land?

I was thinking the same thing. With it on descent and 12 rows back?

Topic: RE: Man Slaps Infant On DL Flight
Username: mesaflyguy
Posted 2013-02-15 21:52:42 and read 9899 times.

I do find it kind of funny that I read this while watching "World's Dumbest Hillbillies"!  

I don't know if the story is completely bogus. The guy who investigated could have seen it happen for FAs could reach him or maybe the FAs weren't paying attention at the time? You never know.

Topic: RE: Man Slaps Infant On DL Flight
Username: phatfarmlines
Posted 2013-02-16 06:42:09 and read 8356 times.

Quoting dtwlax (Reply 1):
Seems like a bogus story.
A guy in 16C gets up and sees a guy in 28A slapping a kid? All this on final descent?
If he did get up to investigate, why did the FA's not do anything? Did they just let him walk over to row 28 when the plane is about to land?
Quoting ridgid727 (Reply 2):

I was thinking the same thing. With it on descent and 12 rows back?

In this situation, there will be some individuals who will put themselves in harm's way to investigate matters like this. Maybe the person was ex-military, or it could have been an air marshal and are used to this type of risk. Some individuals will not just stand around if a fight breaks out, even if the plane is on short final; call it human instincts.

Topic: RE: Man Slaps Infant On DL Flight
Username: planeguy727
Posted 2013-02-16 06:47:37 and read 8284 times.

Here's the CNN version of the story

http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/15/travel...g-boy-assault/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Topic: RE: Man Slaps Infant On DL Flight
Username: Polot
Posted 2013-02-16 06:51:29 and read 8219 times.

Quoting dtwlax (Reply 1):
Seems like a bogus story.

Well that is written in the FBI agent's affidavit.

Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 3):
I don't know if the story is completely bogus. The guy who investigated could have seen it happen for FAs could reach him or maybe the FAs weren't paying attention at the time? You never know.

 checkmark  Row 28 is basically right in the middle of the economy cabin. The FAs probably weren't any closer to the incident. And remember it is the passenger who said the “aircraft was in final descent.” Your guess in how close they were to actually landing is as good as mine. They could have been at 10,000 feet still for all we know.

Quoting phatfarmlines (Reply 4):
In this situation, there will be some individuals who will put themselves in harm's way to investigate matters like this. Maybe the person was ex-military, or it could have been an air marshal and are used to this type of risk. Some individuals will not just stand around if a fight breaks out, even if the plane is on short final; call it human instincts.

It should also be noted that according to the affidavit (and the article for those who didn't look at the source document) the mother got assistance from several passengers. The man in 16C just so happened to be explicitly mentioned (in other words he talked to the investigating FBI agent).

[Edited 2013-02-16 06:59:32]

Topic: RE: Man Slaps Infant On DL Flight
Username: srbmod
Posted 2013-02-16 07:24:20 and read 7774 times.

I know that at one time or another we've all probably wanted to smack a crying child on a flight, but common sense prevailed and we stayed in our seat. There are conflicting reports regarding his alcohol consumption on the flight, as the article about the incident on the Atlanta Journal-Constitution website mentions that the woman whose child was slapped said he consumed several drinks while the Smoking Gun piece quotes him as having a single drink on the flight. That being said, he could have consumed drinks before the flight at MSP or maybe on the flight to MSP from Idaho. His prior assault conviction in Virginia will definitely be brought up during the proceedings.

Topic: RE: Man Slaps Infant On DL Flight
Username: cschleic
Posted 2013-02-16 07:38:02 and read 7567 times.

Quoting Polot (Reply 6):
And remember it is the passenger who said the “aircraft was in final descent.” Your guess in how close they were to actually landing is as good as mine. They could have been at 10,000 feet still for all we know.

Exactly...could have been just starting to descend from cruise. Even F/A's often announce "...we've been cleared to land..." when the plane still is nowhere near the airport, to get people to buckle up, turn off the electronics, etc.

Topic: RE: Man Slaps Infant On DL Flight
Username: dtwlax
Posted 2013-02-16 09:32:39 and read 6000 times.

Quoting phatfarmlines (Reply 4):
or it could have been an air marshal and are used to this type of risk.

I am not sure air marshals would blow their cover for something like this. The FAs can handle this easily.

Quoting Polot (Reply 6):
Row 28 is basically right in the middle of the economy cabin. The FAs probably weren't any closer to the incident.

The FAs were certainly closer to row 28 than the guy in row 16. The aircraft was a MD90 so the FAs are not all the way back of the plane.

Quoting cschleic (Reply 10):
Exactly...could have been just starting to descend from cruise.

Well, beginning to descend from cruise is called initial descent , not final.


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