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Topic: AA's First A319 - Has Production Started?
Username: JoePatroni707
Posted 2013-02-17 13:15:50 and read 16284 times.

Looking at our delivery schedule the first of the A319's is due 1H/Jul2013. Just wondering if production has begun in any form for this aircraft? The delivery schedule in the ops website does not specify when production on airframes begin.

Topic: AA's First A319 - Has Production Started?
Username: Darksnowynight
Posted 2013-02-17 13:19:16 and read 16246 times.

Well it's February, so unless there's been a delay or deferral, yes, production would have begun a little while back...

Topic: AA's First A319 - Has Production Started?
Username: Stitch
Posted 2013-02-17 13:22:11 and read 16154 times.

AA is going to take the A319-100 sharklet test frame later this year and that one has already been built, but I am guessing it will not be the first AA A319-100 delivery.

Topic: AA's First A319 - Has Production Started?
Username: yyz717
Posted 2013-02-17 13:25:46 and read 16106 times.

1 has been built already. AA will take the A319 sharklet test aircraft built in 2012. MSN 5327.

The other 15 A319's ordered start with MSN 5678 (to be delivered in July). No idea on actual production of these aircraft. No idea whether 5327 will be delivered before 5678.

Current AA order 16x A319 and 115x A321's btw (total 131). Likely many more A321's will be firmed as A319's.

Topic: AA's First A319 - Has Production Started?
Username: JoePatroni707
Posted 2013-02-17 13:37:58 and read 15881 times.

I thought I read someplace that AA had planned 130xA139 and 130xA321... Was it modified or did I read something else?

Topic: RE: AA's First A319 - Has Production Started?
Username: FWAERJ
Posted 2013-02-17 13:50:04 and read 15715 times.

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Reply 4):
I thought I read someplace that AA had planned 130xA139 and 130xA321... Was it modified or did I read something else?

It was 130 A32xOEO and 130x A32xNEO, convertible to any A320 family member.

Topic: RE: AA's First A319 - Has Production Started?
Username: FL787
Posted 2013-02-17 13:57:13 and read 15628 times.

Quoting yyz717 (Reply 3):
Current AA order 16x A319 and 115x A321's btw (total 131). Likely many more A321's will be firmed as A319's.

Where did the extra one come from? AA's last quarterly filing shows 130 A32x classics on order.

Topic: RE: AA's First A319 - Has Production Started?
Username: yyz717
Posted 2013-02-17 15:15:57 and read 15216 times.

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Reply 4):
I thought I read someplace that AA had planned 130xA139 and 130xA321... Was it modified or did I read something else?

130 total non-neo (mix 319 and 321). Upped by 1 to 131 now.

Also 130 planned neo's.

So total 260 originally. Now 261.

Quoting FL787 (Reply 6):
Where did the extra one come from? AA's last quarterly filing shows 130 A32x classics on order.

My source, areotransport, shows it as 131 total. The additional 1 was added ~ 6 mos ago.

Topic: RE: AA's First A319 - Has Production Started?
Username: LONGisland89
Posted 2013-02-17 15:17:58 and read 15212 times.

Is it safe to assume that In another 2-3 months we should figure out what routes the first A319s will be flying?

Topic: RE: AA's First A319 - Has Production Started?
Username: american 767
Posted 2013-02-17 15:28:51 and read 15107 times.

Quoting yyz717 (Reply 7):
So total 260 originally. Now 261.

And those are only the ones AA ordered on its own in the middle of 2011.
Add to that the ex-US A32x, the Airbus narrow body fleet will be huge.

Topic: RE: AA's First A319 - Has Production Started?
Username: GSPflyer
Posted 2013-02-17 20:54:26 and read 12434 times.

To be fair, they have 93, already built, that they will acquire soon  

In all seriousness, would it be a better idea for AA to convert some of their later A319 deliveries to A321/320 orders, since they only ordered 11, and will acquire a large number in the merger with US? (assuming the merger goes through) I can't imagine that an additional 11 frames will make that much of a difference. Or are the newer 319's more capable than the ones US already has?

Topic: RE: AA's First A319 - Has Production Started?
Username: Pugman211
Posted 2013-02-17 21:54:20 and read 11830 times.

Airbus is currently on around the MSN 5550 area for SA aircraft. Do you have a list of MSN's for AA?

Topic: RE: AA's First A319 - Has Production Started?
Username: yyz717
Posted 2013-02-17 22:54:20 and read 11370 times.

16x A319 MSN's: 5327, 5678, 5698, 5704, 5745, 5753, 5761, 5781, 5786, 5788, 5789, 5798, 5810, 5827, 5842, 5902
6x A321 MSN's: 5838, 5876, 5890, 5895, 5899, 5939

Only 6 A321 MSN's identified so far.

The remaining 109 aircraft are nominally booked as A321. Firmed up as A319 or A321 as MSN's progressively assigned.

Topic: RE: AA's First A319 - Has Production Started?
Username: GCT64
Posted 2013-02-18 01:31:21 and read 10170 times.

Quoting yyz717 (Reply 12):
16x A319 MSN's: 5327, 5678, 5698, 5704, 5745,

The most recent report I can find of a spotters tour round XFW (about 2 weeks ago) gave:

Highest MSN complete aircraft: #5523
Highest MSN main and rear fuselage: #5591
Highest MSN rear fuselage: #5598

So it will be a little while longer before #5678 appears on the production line

Topic: RE: AA's First A319 - Has Production Started?
Username: captainstefan
Posted 2013-02-18 03:06:04 and read 9404 times.

Quoting yyz717 (Reply 7):
The additional 1 was added ~ 6 mos ago.

Maybe a baker's dozen kind of deal... Airbus figured they wouldn't really be able to use it past the sharklet testing procedures, so they tossed it in with the other 130 OEOs?

Topic: RE: AA's First A319 - Has Production Started?
Username: Jack
Posted 2013-02-18 03:33:53 and read 9144 times.

Quoting yyz717 (Reply 12):
16x A319 MSN's: 5327, 5678, 5698, 5704, 5745, 5753, 5761, 5781, 5786, 5788, 5789, 5798, 5810, 5827, 5842, 5902
6x A321 MSN's: 5838, 5876, 5890, 5895, 5899, 5939

So who are they leasing these from, is it direct from Airbus who will sell them on like the SIA A330 or from existing leasors orders?

Topic: RE: AA's First A319 - Has Production Started?
Username: NASCARAirforce
Posted 2013-02-18 09:32:47 and read 5506 times.

I figured the first ones would come from USAirways

Topic: RE: AA's First A319 - Has Production Started?
Username: gen2stew
Posted 2013-02-18 10:54:51 and read 4792 times.

According to a previous poster MSN#5327 is to go to AA. LINK TO MSN#5327 : http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...0D4038BEFCC943D65&selectedIndex=12

Topic: RE: AA's First A319 - Has Production Started?
Username: panam330
Posted 2013-02-18 13:39:51 and read 3542 times.

Are there renderings of them with the new livery? All of the ones I can find have the Vignelli livery.

Topic: RE: AA's First A319 - Has Production Started?
Username: Flighty
Posted 2013-02-18 14:49:01 and read 3367 times.

Yes, AA/US will take a lot of new Airbus deliveries. But the schedule and blend are TBD.

There will be future joint press releases from Doug Parker of AA and Airbus. Those are the announcements to look for. The existing US and AA deals will be blended and renegotiated, favorably to all.

Topic: RE: AA's First A319 - Has Production Started?
Username: nomorerjs
Posted 2013-02-18 14:53:54 and read 3348 times.

Many of these will find a nice new home at ORD!

Topic: RE: AA's First A319 - Has Production Started?
Username: PHLwok
Posted 2013-02-18 15:38:33 and read 3236 times.

What is US scheduled to take this year? I know some A332s are due midyear, but I'm less sure what narrowbodies they have lined up after taking a dozen or so A321-200s last year.

Topic: RE: AA's First A319 - Has Production Started?
Username: N737AA
Posted 2013-02-21 11:45:09 and read 2760 times.

Quoting LONGisland89 (Reply 8):
what routes the first A319s will be flying?
Quoting nomorerjs (Reply 20):
Many of these will find a nice new home at ORD!

Thats my bet.

N737AA


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