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Topic: AA To All Of SA?
Username: aacun
Posted 2013-02-26 08:22:17 and read 11252 times.

I read an inside newsletter today that states AA's Miami new upcoming service to be

MIA-FDF B738
MIA-PTP B738
(Which were already announced)

MIA-CWB-POA-MIA B763
(We finally know equipment and routing)

MIA-GEO B738
MIA-PBM B738

Once this is confirmed, will AA be the first Airline to serve every country in North, Central and South America? If we throw in the Caribbean, of course Cuba is left out ( charters dont count). Aside from Cuba, which Islands that are currently receiving some sort of airline service are not served by AA or Eagle? Or Seaborn/Cape Air for that matter since they will be code sharing with AA soon.

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: LAXdude1023
Posted 2013-02-26 08:59:49 and read 11022 times.

Quoting aacun (Thread starter):
I read an inside newsletter today that states AA's Miami new upcoming service to be

Did they say anything about DFW-BOG and what equipment and schedule would be?

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: aacun
Posted 2013-02-26 09:12:31 and read 10924 times.

No, sorry. It just mentioned upcoming new Miami service. Nothing on DFW-BOG. I will let you know if I find out anything on that.

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: IrishAyes
Posted 2013-02-26 09:14:35 and read 10904 times.

[quote=LAXdude1023,reply=1 Did they say anything about DFW-BOG and what equipment and schedule would be?[/quote]

Ditto. I want to know concrete information about this route, before we de-rail into topics about LAN/TAM/LATAM codeshares/routes until the DFW-BOG and new MIA routes are addressed. Thx.

This is the last I've heard:

Posted 2013-02-26 09:17:04 and read 10884 times.

What about French Guiana?

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: mah4546
Posted 2013-02-26 09:53:58 and read 10652 times.

Suppoesdly 3x weekly each to Paramaribo and Georgetown starting in the fall. But not quite official just yet. I had heard AA was considering serving them in a triangle.

MIAGEO and MIAPBM are both about 40 PDEW, but the majority of Georgetown demand comes from Broward. MIA-PBM has no non-stop service, as Surinam Airways has always opted to serve it via a third point. Currently Surinam Airways flies MIA-AUA-PBM 3w and MIA-GEO-PBM 2w. The fares are sky high to Surinam, though. Could be a goldmine. Guyana, not as easy.

Quoting STT757 (Reply 4):
t about French Guiana?


As it is part of France, it is still technically correct that AA will serve every country in South America (and Latin America for that matter; as Cuba is served with scheduled charters to Havana, Cienfuegos, Santiago and Holguin).
Quoting aacun (Thread starter):
Aside from Cuba, which Islands that are currently receiving some sort of airline service are not served by AA or Eagle? Or Seaborn/Cape Air for that matter since they will be code sharing with AA soon.

Among independent countries, just Dominica (which will have Seabourne take over) and St. Vincent & The Grenadines.

However, AA is studying service to DOM with its own planes from Miami, and the new airport in St. Vincent, which I believe opens late this year, has a runway long enough for (and designed to attract) non-stops to Miami.

[Edited 2013-02-26 10:07:40]

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: FoxBravo
Posted 2013-02-26 10:36:44 and read 10413 times.

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 5):
However, AA is studying service to DOM with its own planes from Miami

Could a CRJ700 do this? Not sure if there is enough of a market for it, but maybe a couple of times a week.

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: flyby519
Posted 2013-02-26 11:09:20 and read 10265 times.

Quoting FoxBravo (Reply 6):
Could a CRJ700 do this? Not sure if there is enough of a market for it, but maybe a couple of times a week.

Apparently Amerijet flies a 727 into DOM. I wonder if AA could do MIA-DOM with an E190?

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: 2travel2know2
Posted 2013-02-26 11:18:59 and read 10228 times.

If AA is to start GEO and PBM, then the only South American countries not served by AA will be French Guiana and Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas).
Now that DL has left JFK-GEO maybe AA could do a JFK-GEO-MIA-GEO-JFK rotation w/B737-800 3-4 days per week.

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: SFOJFK
Posted 2013-02-26 11:23:53 and read 10191 times.

PBM and all of Suriname have links to the Netherlands. Wonder if this could spark an AA flight to AMS from MIA.

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: DCAJet
Posted 2013-02-26 12:37:27 and read 9931 times.

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 8):
If AA is to start GEO and PBM, then the only South American countries not served by AA will be French Guiana and Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas).
.

The Falkland Islands are not a country. They are a British Overseas Territory.

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: rwsea
Posted 2013-02-26 12:44:04 and read 9870 times.

Quoting SFOJFK (Reply 9):
PBM and all of Suriname have links to the Netherlands. Wonder if this could spark an AA flight to AMS from MIA.

PMB is already served daily from AMS on both KLM and Suriname Airways. I suppose AA could pick up some traffic, but the market already has plenty of nonstop service. I doubt anyone would go through the hassle of transferring at MIA (or getting a US visa) unless the cost savings were substantial (and thus meaning AA's yields aren't good).

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: Nostromopilot
Posted 2013-02-26 15:14:49 and read 9602 times.

This appears to be unprecedented and quite an achievement for a singular airline to fly (if rumors prove truthful) to every country on a continent/region. Are we still hearing Cordoba, Argentina at some point?

The only other historical examples of an airline coming remotely close to this would possibly be (soviet) Aeroflot flying to literally everywhere in its area (USSR) and/or TWA and Pan Am flying to about every country in Europe in the 1970s or Sabena flying to just about everywhere in Africa.

Is SA really the only place where this is even feasible?

Thoughts?

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: HPRamper
Posted 2013-02-26 16:12:50 and read 9474 times.

Quoting Nostromopilot (Reply 12):
Is SA really the only place where this is even feasible?

Flying to every country in Europe seems like it shouldn't be too difficult given the relatively small distances involved although small countries like Andorra and Monaco could complicate the attempt. South America seems like even more of a feat because it's a carrier from North America flying from distant hubs.

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: Max Q
Posted 2013-02-26 18:44:37 and read 8616 times.

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 8):


If AA is to start GEO and PBM, then the only South American countries not served by AA will be French Guiana and Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas).

The Falklands are not part of South America, that was assured in 1982.

Quoting DCAJet (Reply 10):

The Falkland Islands are not a country. They are a British Overseas Territory.

Well said.

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: yellowtail
Posted 2013-02-26 18:51:29 and read 8539 times.

MIA-GEO B738
MIA-PBM B738

All good unless BW decides to start GEO - MIA with a Gov't fuel subsidy   

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: OB1504
Posted 2013-02-26 19:09:18 and read 8353 times.

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 5):
Currently Surinam Airways flies MIA-AUA-PBM 3w and MIA-GEO-PBM 2w. The fares are sky high to Surinam, though.

And PY are notoriously unreliable, or at least this is the impression I get from the passengers who come up to me.

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 15):
All good unless BW decides to start GEO - MIA with a Gov't fuel subsidy

BW already serves GEO-MIA via POS.

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: BommerJan
Posted 2013-02-27 03:37:43 and read 6268 times.

Quoting STT757 (Reply 4):
What about French Guiana?

You mean from the Unoited Staits?  

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: KaiTak747
Posted 2013-02-27 03:53:10 and read 6198 times.

Quoting Max Q (Reply 14):
The Falklands are not part of South America, that was assured in 1982.

A British overseas territory, but still South America.
Besides, with a population of less than 3000 people I doubt AA would fly there in a hurry!

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: Byrdluvs747
Posted 2013-02-27 04:16:42 and read 6060 times.

Quoting Max Q (Reply 14):
The Falklands are not part of South America, that was assured in 1982.

Thats like saying that the former British Honduras(Belize) wasnt part of central america simply due to English rule.

British governance is irrelevant, the Falklands sit on the South American tectonic plate so they are geologically part of South America.

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: qf002
Posted 2013-02-27 04:36:24 and read 5940 times.

Quoting Nostromopilot (Reply 12):
This appears to be unprecedented and quite an achievement for a singular airline to fly (if rumors prove truthful) to every country on a continent/region. Are we still hearing Cordoba, Argentina at some point?

The only other historical examples of an airline coming remotely close to this would possibly be (soviet) Aeroflot flying to literally everywhere in its area (USSR) and/or TWA and Pan Am flying to about every country in Europe in the 1970s or Sabena flying to just about everywhere in Africa.

Is SA really the only place where this is even feasible?

Depending in how you define the continent, it would be easy to argue that any airline that flies down here serves every country on the Australian continent.

But yes, it certainly is a massive achievement.

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: LimaFoxTango
Posted 2013-02-27 05:11:57 and read 5724 times.

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 15):
All good unless BW decides to start GEO - MIA with a Gov't fuel subsidy

Come on, you know they will.

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: jumpjets
Posted 2013-02-27 05:17:35 and read 5684 times.

The Falklands are an interesting case given the forthcoming referendum on March 10/11 concerning the islands future 'ownership'. The UK ownership is disputed by Argentina, so two possible sovereignties to consider going forward.

If British sovereignty continues then the islands are covered as part of the UK via the AA flights to mainland GB.

If, unlikely as it seems, the Falklanders vote against being British and presumably would then join Argentina then the islands are covered by AAs flight to mainline Argentina, eg EZE.

If the Falklanders decide to be totally independent of any other country then the route planners at AA better get their globes out, find out where the islands are, and send a 757 down there pronto - and if they really wanted to be sneaky they could put Mount Pleasant on as an add on to their flights to EZE....

PS At the moment international flights comprise, I believe, a weekly flight A320 by LAN from Santiago and ad hoc flights from RAF Brize Norton [England] operated by the UK Ministry of defence and open to civilian travellers.

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: tonytifao
Posted 2013-02-27 05:30:34 and read 5581 times.

With passengers with final destination of POA, will they have to exit the plane or clear customs in CWB?

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: A388
Posted 2013-02-27 10:49:24 and read 4440 times.

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 5):
Suppoesdly 3x weekly each to Paramaribo and Georgetown starting in the fall. But not quite official just yet. I had heard AA was considering serving them in a triangle.

Interesting, is this the first route in the region that AA wants to serve in a triangle? To my knowledge all their flights in the region are nonstop flights, is that correct?

Meanwhile, I'm still hoping AA will increase capacity to CUR as they have been flying full on both daily flights for a long time now and their fares aren't the cheapest. Even if AA can't introduce a third daily 738 flight, maybe replace one of the flights with a 757 on a daily basis or 3 times a week? I think they can fill the extra capacity.

A388

[Edited 2013-02-27 10:52:31]

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: mah4546
Posted 2013-02-27 10:58:33 and read 4592 times.

Quoting A388 (Reply 24):
Interesting, is this the first route in the region that AA wants to serve in a triangle? To my knowledge all their flights in the region are nonstop flights, is that correct?

Don't think it will be a triangle. Independent flights to each; but honestly a triangle routing would not shock me.

As for triangles in the region, MIA-LPB-VVI-MIA is a triangle, but La Paz simply can't handle a non-stop flight to Miami, so the plane needs to stop somewhere.

SSA and REC were served MIA-SSA-REC-MIA until this past November, when they got independent non-stops.

New service to CWB and POA, launching in November, will be a triangle MIA-CWB-POA-MIA.

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: A388
Posted 2013-02-27 11:23:07 and read 4495 times.

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 25):
SSA and REC were served MIA-SSA-REC-MIA until this past November, when they got independent non-stops.

New service to CWB and POA, launching in November, will be a triangle MIA-CWB-POA-MIA.

I was actually referring to the Caribbean region but now I know, thanks.

A388

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: guyanam
Posted 2013-02-27 15:44:56 and read 4305 times.

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 15):

BW will not likely do GEO MIA nonstop. If AA does this they definitely will not be stupid enough to try it.

Dont know if you know this but Guyana does NOT provide BW with a fuel subsidy so should not be held responsible for this.

Note that AA does quite well with 2xDaily MIA POS service so clearly the fuel subsidy isnt a factor. So why should it be for GEO service? This fuel subsidy excuse is way over rated.

AA is a strong brand, and MIA is a fortress hub, and so can easily take on BW so the fuel subsidy issue is irrelevant.


In any case as I understand it BW has to pay full price for fuel and then gets reimbursed when the Govt of T&T sees fit. I am fairly sure that BW does NOT get good credit terms from its suppliers given its financial problems.

Given the way govts work I am sure that BW cannot predict when such payments will be received, and will have to cover all their costs in the interim.

You will be on stronger ground if yoiu claim that BW is allowed to pay landing and other govt related fees when they feel like and now owe millions in travel taxes and airport fees to the T&T govt and related authorities.

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 21):

Very unlikely a BW MIA GEO as this is very light compared to JFK and even YYZ. This is definitely not a route for two carriers and AA wins hands down with this as they can offer connection to people traveling to/from cities like ATL and DC which have decent sized Guyanese populations.

ANy case you know full well that many ex colonial people will always swear on the bible that anything out of North America or Europe will always be better than some "inferior nonsense" from the Caribbean. Basically the global carriers almost fully control their passengers and then battle with the Caribbean carriers for our folks. Just note theiur usually docile acceptance of AA when they offer service that can be every bit as painful as that of BWIA and Air Jam in their days.

Quoting A388 (Reply 24):

Dont see how a triangle will work as AAs best advantage to GEO and PBM ex MIA will be its connections from other parts of the USA, and even Canada. The traffic isnt that heavy to begin with so it will depend highly on feeder traffic.

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 8):

A rule of thumb is that any route which doesnt work intop POS will not into GEO. So if AA doesnt want to challenge BW on the JFK POS then they definitely will not on the JFK GEO. In any case they have been dropping service to the Caribbean freom JFK in recent years, with even the lucrative JFK Dom Rep routes now gone from April.

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: OB1504
Posted 2013-02-27 15:57:59 and read 4254 times.

Quoting guyanam (Reply 27):
In any case they have been dropping service to the Caribbean freom JFK in recent years, with even the lucrative JFK Dom Rep routes now gone from April.

Are they really that lucrative if AA is dropping them?

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: guyanam
Posted 2013-02-27 16:08:25 and read 4204 times.

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 28):

Lucrative as defined by volume though not necessarily yield as B6 is killing them.

Islands with nonstop AA service from JFK are PAP,SJU,STT,SKB,ANU and BGI, with SXM getting seasonal service. Aside from SJU and BGI (and arguably STT) , the markets with year round service are relatively small, or problematic as the case with PAP.

Do not know what AAs plans are for the JFK BGI, given that they compete against B6 on that route.

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: ikramerica
Posted 2013-02-27 16:10:08 and read 4189 times.

Quoting jumpjets (Reply 22):
The Falklands are an interesting case given the forthcoming referendum on March 10/11 concerning the islands future 'ownership'. The UK ownership is disputed by Argentina, so two possible sovereignties to consider going forward.

If British sovereignty continues then the islands are covered as part of the UK via the AA flights to mainland GB.

If, unlikely as it seems, the Falklanders vote against being British and presumably would then join Argentina then the islands are covered by AAs flight to mainline Argentina, eg EZE.

If the Falklanders decide to be totally independent of any other country then the route planners at AA better get their globes out, find out where the islands are, and send a 757 down there pronto - and if they really wanted to be sneaky they could put Mount Pleasant on as an add on to their flights to EZE....

PS At the moment international flights comprise, I believe, a weekly flight A320 by LAN from Santiago and ad hoc flights from RAF Brize Norton [England] operated by the UK Ministry of defence and open to civilian travellers.

All very interesting, but they are not currently a country, just a place. AA never claims to fly to every place in South America, but every country. They don't fly to every region, county, city, etc. in South America either.

If they were to vote for independence, then maybe, but even then, one has to wonder whether a group of 3000 people calling themselves a nation makes it so in the 21st century.

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: mah4546
Posted 2013-02-27 17:05:28 and read 4120 times.

Quoting guyanam (Reply 29):
Aside from SJU and BGI (and arguably STT) , the markets with year round service are relatively small, or problematic as the case with PAP.

Small? No. NYCSXM, NYCPAP and NYCSTT are all larger than NYCBGI, but even NYCBGI is a very large local market.

Problematic? You fly a plane to PAP and fly it out. AA does it seven times a day to three cities at sky high fares. Simple and not problematic.

Quoting guyanam (Reply 29):
o not know what AAs plans are for the JFK BGI, given that they compete against B6 on that route.

Pretty sure the plan is simple: continue flying JFKBGI. Two daily flights and 230 daily passengers each way? Huge market, underserved, profitable and great J class demand that B6 does not cater to.

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: Max Q
Posted 2013-02-27 22:25:32 and read 3894 times.

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 19):

British governance is irrelevant, the Falklands sit on the South American tectonic plate so they are geologically part of South America.

Er, being on the same tectonic plate does not mean you are politically part of an adjacent continent !



And believe me, British Government is extremely relevant, as is the pro British democratic falkland island population.



Many lives were lost upholding that legitimacy.

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: A388
Posted 2013-02-28 07:06:41 and read 3608 times.

Quoting guyanam (Reply 27):
Dont see how a triangle will work as AAs best advantage to GEO and PBM ex MIA will be its connections from other parts of the USA, and even Canada. The traffic isnt that heavy to begin with so it will depend highly on feeder traffic.

Just to clarify, I didn't say that AA will do a triangular routing, but mah4546 did and he already said that such a routing is unlikely to happen.

Regarding the new MIA-FDF and MIA-PTP routes, will these be profitable? Is demand to these destinations big or bigger than MIA-PBM and MIA-GEO or do they more potential then PBM and GEO?

A388

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: mah4546
Posted 2013-02-28 09:54:27 and read 3467 times.

Quoting A388 (Reply 33):
Regarding the new MIA-FDF and MIA-PTP routes, will these be profitable? Is demand to these destinations big or bigger than MIA-PBM and MIA-GEO or do they more potential then PBM and GEO?


FDF/PTP are Small markets (around 15 PDEW each to Miami, the largest mainland local market from both), but outstanding yield.

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: 2travel2know2
Posted 2013-02-28 11:12:54 and read 3385 times.

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 34):
FDF/PTP are Small markets (around 15 PDEW each to Miami, the largest mainland local market from both), but outstanding yield.

Mainland as mainland U.S.A.?
I'd think numbers between FDF/PTP and YUL; FDF/PTP and CAY (mainland Americas) are higher.

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: A388
Posted 2013-02-28 11:47:18 and read 3325 times.

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 35):
Quoting mah4546 (Reply 34):
FDF/PTP are Small markets (around 15 PDEW each to Miami, the largest mainland local market from both), but outstanding yield.

Mainland as mainland U.S.A.?
I'd think numbers between FDF/PTP and YUL; FDF/PTP and CAY (mainland Americas) are higher.

Thanks for the replies mah4546 and 2travel2know2. AA can indeed be an option for traffic between Canada and these islands but I think AC already flies to these islands already. I just don't know how frequently and whether it is seasonal or year round.

A388

[Edited 2013-02-28 11:49:04]

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: FoxBravo
Posted 2013-02-28 11:53:58 and read 3300 times.

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 34):

FDF/PTP are Small markets (around 15 PDEW each to Miami, the largest mainland local market from both), but outstanding yield.

Just curious, what drives the high yields to these islands? There isn't much high-end tourism from the US and I can't imagine there is much business traffic either.

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: A388
Posted 2013-02-28 12:03:43 and read 3273 times.

Quoting FoxBravo (Reply 37):
Just curious, what drives the high yields to these islands? There isn't much high-end tourism from the US and I can't imagine there is much business traffic either.

Maybe the fact that they use the Euro as their local currency, being a French overseas territory.

A388

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: BoeingGuy
Posted 2013-02-28 12:06:38 and read 3278 times.

So SA)">AA is applying for ORD-GRU and LAX-GRU. What's next? When does COR come? What other secondary SA markets could support SA)">AA service? Sounds like CUZ won't come back on SA)">AA metal.

My money is on COR next. What about MDZ or SLA with an SA)">AA 757?

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: guyanam
Posted 2013-02-28 12:09:30 and read 3270 times.

Quoting A388 (Reply 33):

MIA PTP and MIA FDF are quite likely to be booked out by the Club Med and other package deals. The same folks who currentky use AE out of SJU. I would wonder about how profitable the Seaborne service from SJU will be once these passengers are routed through MIA.

AAs MIA GEO can work, but it will require feed from interior points in the USA. Quite a few Guyanese live in the DC and ATL areas and will definitely use this service. In fact I suspect that PY will be squeezed out as it lacks the feed.

Indeed I suspect that those Guyanese who use DL, because they hate BW, might even endure the great inconvenience of using AA via MIA, especially if the fares are competitive.

So I do believe that MIA GEO will work for AA as they squeeze PY out, and snatch business from BW (even the folks who live close to FLL and who currently use their services via POS).

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 31):

I believe that I said ASIDE from STT, PAP and SJU. JFK SXM is seasonal. I specifically referenced YEAR round service. AA has no interest in batting B6 into JFK SXM in non peak periods.

The fact that AA has the PAP market almost to themselves is because others are afraid of the security, political and other challenges of operating in Haiti. Its not just the plan but setting up local operations, even if its is merely managers to oversee local contractors. B6 would be a candidate with their well developed FLL and JFK markets, both packed with Haitians. So why doesnt B6 seem to be looking at Haiti? They are doing very well into MBJ/KIN, an into many Dom Rep airports, even their new Samana route.

NYC BGI and NYC STT have similar capacity. Both daily AA with BGI getting daily B6 and STT getting virtually daily UA. They seem to be similar sized markets, just that BGI has more of the VFR which is usually less price sensitive than the leisure, even if less lucrative than the business market. But I do know that in soft periods B6 cuts their fares quite low and that AA must match them. Hence my query as to how long AA will tolerta ethis, given that they havent in the considerably larger DR market.

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: Byrdluvs747
Posted 2013-02-28 20:09:53 and read 3059 times.

Quoting Max Q (Reply 32):
And believe me, British Government is extremely relevant, as is the pro British democratic falkland island population.

Still doesn't remove the fact that the Falklands are part of South America. Just as British Honduras is was part of central america. The british flag doesn't change geography or geology.

Quoting Max Q (Reply 32):
Many lives were lost upholding that legitimacy.

Many British lives were lost in the Boer Wars as well, yet South Africa is still part of Africa.

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: BigGSFO
Posted 2013-02-28 23:00:37 and read 2918 times.

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 39):
AA is applying for ORD-GRU and LAX-GRU.

They are? Has this been announced?

Edited: nevermind. I found it.

[Edited 2013-02-28 23:08:23]

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: guyanam
Posted 2013-03-02 14:12:25 and read 2574 times.

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 41):

Here is the difference between S Africa and Falklands. Most of the people who live in the latter are of British extraction, and desire to remain a British territory. Argentine claims to the Falklands are as valid as exclusive claims by Native Americans to North America.

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: Byrdluvs747
Posted 2013-03-02 14:39:33 and read 2510 times.

Quoting guyanam (Reply 43):

Again. Neither people, flags, nor governments change geography/geology. The Falklands still rest as part of South America.

Topic: RE: AA To All Of SA?
Username: guyanam
Posted 2013-03-04 12:29:23 and read 1952 times.

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 44):

Falklanders consider themselves British, most of them. Thats is what governs what they are..

Also do you consider Grenada to be part of South America? After all its closer to Venezuela than the Falkllands are to Argentina?


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