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Topic: BA Announces New Route To Granada From London City
Username: santos
Posted 2013-03-19 05:10:27 and read 12686 times.

This a very unexpected route and surprised that it will be year round, but according to this website:

"British Airways is to start flights to Granada from London City Airport and will be the only UK airline operating to one of the most historic parts of Spain.

The year-round service will launch on July 25, just before the start of the busy summer season..."

http://socialnewsroom.spain.info/bri...route-to-granada-from-london-city/

[Edited 2013-03-19 05:33:52]

Topic: RE: BA Announces New Route To Granada From London City
Username: Pe@rson
Posted 2013-03-19 05:26:31 and read 12569 times.

Cool development.

I remember when Ryanair used to fly to Granada from Stansted.

Topic: RE: BA Announces New Route To Granada From London City
Username: Bthebest
Posted 2013-03-19 05:31:15 and read 12531 times.

Quite surprising from LCY as well - is there a strong business community in Granada?

Topic: RE: BA Announces New Route To Granada From London City
Username: APYu
Posted 2013-03-19 05:37:22 and read 12461 times.

Quoting Bthebest (Reply 2):
Quite surprising from LCY as well - is there a strong business community in Granada?

It will be a tourist route to improve cityflyer aircraft utilisation, along with the other sunshine destinations from LCY

[Edited 2013-03-19 05:37:46]

Topic: RE: BA Announces New Route To Granada From London City
Username: Pe@rson
Posted 2013-03-19 05:39:02 and read 12441 times.

Quoting Bthebest (Reply 2):
Quite surprising from LCY as well - is there a strong business community in Granada?

Doubtful - it's a fairly popular tourist destination. Don't forget that BACF operate a variety of sun routes from LCY, e.g. PMI, ALC, AGP, IBZ, etc., etc.

And WX serves a variety of regional French destinations - including AVN, BES, DOL, TLN - for leisure/second homes.

Topic: RE: BA Announces New Route To Granada From London City
Username: RyanairGuru
Posted 2013-03-19 05:47:09 and read 12345 times.

Right, Spain. That makes sense now. For some reason I assumed the Caribbean... You can imagine my shock!

Topic: RE: BA Announces New Route To Granada From London City
Username: seansasLCY
Posted 2013-03-19 05:52:40 and read 12301 times.

BA will suspend LCY-Barcelona from the same date.

Topic: RE: BA Announces New Route To Granada From London City
Username: realsim
Posted 2013-03-19 06:04:06 and read 12187 times.

Cool new route for Granada. It could sound surprising that they fly to GRX from LCY before than to SVQ, ALC or BIO, but from GRX they have no competition at all to the UK, while from these other airports they have to compete against a lot of low-cost airlines.

Topic: RE: BA Announces New Route To Granada From London City
Username: seansasLCY
Posted 2013-03-19 06:46:27 and read 11984 times.

Quoting realsim (Reply 7):
they fly to GRX from LCY before than to SVQ, ALC or BIO, but from GRX they have no competition at all to the UK

BA already serve ALC from LGW and LHR. I would love a LCY-ALC service. Would be very useful personally.

I wonder if we will see further changes to the LCY network.

Topic: RE: BA Announces New Route To Granada From London City
Username: tomkell92
Posted 2013-03-19 06:49:34 and read 11965 times.

Quoting seansasLCY (Reply 8):

BA CityFlyer have done charters to ALC in the past, I'm quite sure that they have. They have also served FAO, PMI, IBZ, AGP, and Cagliari too.

Shame that they will be dropping the BCN route though.

Topic: RE: BA Announces New Route To Granada From London City
Username: rutankrd
Posted 2013-03-19 06:53:41 and read 11936 times.

Quoting Bthebest (Reply 2):
Quite surprising from LCY as well - is there a strong business community in Granada?

Na !

Just a nice place for a few bankers to rest and recuperate and partake of fine dining and good wine for along weekend or short midweek break.

They might also take advantage of the Spanish Property slump to award themselves a bargain villa/winery or two !

Topic: RE: BA Announces New Route To Granada From London City
Username: nickllhill
Posted 2013-03-19 11:13:46 and read 11357 times.

Do they have the legs to reach Gibraltar?

Topic: RE: BA Announces New Route To Granada From London City
Username: McG1967
Posted 2013-03-19 11:28:46 and read 11096 times.

The 190's have operated GLA-AGP as charters in the summer, so range shouldn't be an issue with a GIB flight - it's whether or not there would be performance limitations ex LCY.

Topic: RE: BA Announces New Route To Granada From London City
Username: djb77
Posted 2013-03-19 11:43:39 and read 10890 times.

ABZ-AGP too on summer charters, prior to the ABZ runway extension!

Topic: RE: BA Announces New Route To Granada From London City
Username: BlueShamu330s
Posted 2013-03-19 12:10:37 and read 10451 times.

Brilliant for a winter ski break in Sol y Nieve, Sierra Nevada.

Some lovely skiing up there.

Rgds

Topic: RE: BA Announces New Route To Granada From London City
Username: APYu
Posted 2013-03-20 01:52:41 and read 5769 times.

Quoting BlueShamu330s (Reply 14):
Brilliant for a winter ski break in Sol y Nieve, Sierra Nevada.

Some lovely skiing up there

I doubt it will last too far beyond the summer.

Topic: RE: BA Announces New Route To Granada From London City
Username: gabrielchew
Posted 2013-03-20 03:50:19 and read 5226 times.

Quoting nickllhill (Reply 11):
Do they have the legs to reach Gibraltar?

I flew AGP-LCY with BA on the E190...they're only 50mi away, so can't imagine there'd be a problem getting to GIB. I think GIB would work well from LCY, although it'd be more business types I guess than holiday makers. No one has a holiday home in GIB! (well, not compared to the numbers in Spain).

Topic: RE: BA Announces New Route To Granada From London City
Username: teme82
Posted 2013-03-20 05:22:10 and read 4809 times.

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 16):
they're only 50mi away, so can't imagine there'd be a problem getting to GIB.

If I'm not mistaken Spain don't allow flights originating or going to GIB to use their airspace. So the flight would have a slight detour around Spain. Now can E190 handle it. My bet is that it can't.

Topic: RE: BA Announces New Route To Granada From London City
Username: rutankrd
Posted 2013-03-20 05:32:45 and read 4785 times.

Quoting teme82 (Reply 17):

Not strictly true all UK-GIB transit Spanish airspace however then route out over the Med in uncontrolled airspace before contact and vectoring with Gibraltar ATC.

Topic: RE: BA Announces New Route To Granada From London City
Username: richardw
Posted 2013-03-20 07:46:29 and read 4609 times.

Disappointed about BCN being dropped, perhaps it'll be back if IAG gets control of Vueling.

Topic: RE: BA Announces New Route To Granada From London City
Username: tomkell92
Posted 2013-03-20 07:49:48 and read 4606 times.

Quoting richardw (Reply 19):

Disappointed about BCN being dropped

Just heard in the BA office today that BCN is only a temporary suspension and will be back at some point. It's because of the competition with other BA mainline services from LHR and LGW.

The Granada route will be operated 4x weekly to start and then increased to 5x weekly in the Summer period. Also, AGP will be upgraded to 5x weekly in the Summer too.

Topic: RE: BA Announces New Route To Granada From London City
Username: richardw
Posted 2013-03-20 08:01:11 and read 4578 times.

IAG has too many flights from LHR and LGW to BCN, the sooner they bring back the LCY route the better.

When will they drop the slot sitters from LHR?

Topic: RE: BA Announces New Route To Granada From London City
Username: lat41
Posted 2013-03-20 19:57:20 and read 4179 times.

Quoting santos (Thread starter):
The year-round service will launch on July 25, just before the start of the busy summer season..."

Is the vacation calendar very different than the Eastern US? By 25 JUL, the Summer season has been going for almost 2 months.

Topic: RE: BA Announces New Route To Granada From London City
Username: richardw
Posted 2013-03-21 02:05:13 and read 4019 times.

South east uk school holidays start 27th July.

Topic: RE: BA Announces New Route To Granada From London City
Username: VV701
Posted 2013-03-21 06:05:59 and read 3819 times.

Quoting teme82 (Reply 17):
If I'm not mistaken Spain don't allow flights originating or going to GIB to use their airspace. So the flight would have a slight detour around Spain.

BA flights to GIB do overfly Spain. Here is a link to the BA490 flight that as I write is over southern Spain:

http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ba490

The winds at GIB can be tricky. So far this month BA have had to divert six LHR-GIB flights to Spanish airports, usually AGP. Most recently this was BA490 on Tuesday 19 March and before that the same flight on 12 March. When this happens the passengers on the flight are bussed to Gibraltar and those on the return flight are bussed to Malaga.

Topic: RE: BA Announces New Route To Granada From London City
Username: richardw
Posted 2013-03-22 02:45:22 and read 3538 times.

So I asked BA at LCY the reason for the cancellation of the BCN flights.

They just muttered that it may just be a peak summer only suspension.

Interesting that they haven't really briefed their staff correctly.

The Saturday BCN service has just been cancelled and not replaced with GRX.

[Edited 2013-03-22 02:47:45]

Topic: RE: BA Announces New Route To Granada From London City
Username: VV701
Posted 2013-03-23 08:10:03 and read 3058 times.

Quoting richardw (Reply 25):
So I asked BA at LCY the reason for the cancellation of the BCN flights.

They just muttered that it may just be a peak summer only suspension.

I guess this is policy "just in case".

If you read any BA press release or statement concerning a flight or destination that is being withdrawn it is never "discontinued" but always "suspended"!


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