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Topic: Airlines And The Walmart Shareholders Meeting
Username: DeltaXNA
Posted 2013-03-23 17:56:43 and read 7000 times.

Will any airlines send mainline to XNA or FYV during the walmart shareholders meeting this june?

[Edited 2013-03-23 18:00:56]

Topic: RE: Walmart Shareholders Meeting 2013
Username: dlramp4life
Posted 2013-03-23 17:58:59 and read 6991 times.

EDIT: thanks for the rewording.

What is the biggest type of A/C that is flown into XNA now? G4 MD83? at the most I would guess a DL DC9 but nothing along the lines of DL, UA, or AA bringing in 738s or 752s.

[Edited 2013-03-23 18:06:59]

Topic: RE: Airlines And The Walmart Shareholders Meeting
Username: cactus739
Posted 2013-03-23 18:26:41 and read 6847 times.

The biggest a/c right now is the AA and G4 MD80's. Lots of RJ's to various hubs.... Not sure what everyone brought in here last year for the event but I'm sure there will be the occasional mainline upgauge.

I flew out and back into XNA this week, beautiful little airport. One of the new livery AA CRJ's was parked at A1 when I arrived from O'Hare this morning, definitely better looking in person.

Topic: RE: Airlines And The Walmart Shareholders Meeting
Username: BigGSFO
Posted 2013-03-23 18:28:21 and read 6839 times.

Quoting DeltaXNA (Thread starter):
Will any airlines send mainline to XNA or FYV during the walmart shareholders meeting this june?

Doubtful. But I am sure you'll see a lot of corporate jets.

Topic: RE: Airlines And The Walmart Shareholders Meeting
Username: cactus739
Posted 2013-03-23 18:38:58 and read 6788 times.

Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 3):
Doubtful. But I am sure you'll see a lot of corporate jets.

The Walmart Shareholders meeting is a huge huge event.... something like 50 to 60,000 people come into town from all over the world for it. Unless they're buying every seat on every RJ into town, there will be some larger jets.

Topic: RE: Airlines And The Walmart Shareholders Meeting
Username: BigGSFO
Posted 2013-03-23 18:54:28 and read 6723 times.

Maybe Walmart chartered some jets but I cant think of airlines throwing extra segments on their own accord.

[Edited 2013-03-23 18:56:02]

Last year only 14,000 attended. Not sure where you got the 60,000 figure.


[Edited 2013-03-23 18:56:38]

Topic: RE: Airlines And The Walmart Shareholders Meeting
Username: airportugal310
Posted 2013-03-23 19:07:41 and read 6644 times.

Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 5):

Agreed. Airlines usually plan several months in advance for events that could change the way they do business...

Here at HA, we plan 3-4 months out for extra charters or upgauges/downgauges.

I would assume larger mainland carriers are planning the same or more.

Topic: RE: Airlines And The Walmart Shareholders Meeting
Username: rfields5421
Posted 2013-03-23 19:49:11 and read 6495 times.

Quoting cactus739 (Reply 4):
something like 50 to 60,000 people come into town from all over the world for it. Unless they're buying every seat on every RJ into town, there will be some larger jets.

While it is a big deal, the largest that I've heard of is around 15,000, and many of those are Walmart employees flown in from around the country.

At last year's 50th Anniversary shareholders meeting Taylor Swift performed.

The meeting last about half a day.

Fayetteville and the surrounding cities can easily handle that many visitors. They get more in the fall for UA football games.

Institutional shareholders will fly in on corporate jets. Small shareholders will drive - a lot of people will combine the meeting with a trip to Branson.

You will also see people coming more than driving distance to the meeting flying into TUL and LIT - because of easier connections and availability of rental cars. Some will also fly into FSM and SGF.

Topic: RE: Airlines And The Walmart Shareholders Meeting
Username: AR385
Posted 2013-03-23 20:34:42 and read 6384 times.

Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 5):
Maybe Walmart chartered some jets

Doubtful. They are as penny pinching as you get.

Topic: RE: Airlines And The Walmart Shareholders Meeting
Username: airportugal310
Posted 2013-03-23 20:53:12 and read 6326 times.

Quoting AR385 (Reply 8):

Also very true. At my last job I used to work directly with their corporate jet schedulers & pilots...

"Penny-pinching" is a very accurate description

Topic: RE: Airlines And The Walmart Shareholders Meeting
Username: kann123air
Posted 2013-03-24 08:15:00 and read 5453 times.

Quoting cactus739 (Reply 2):
One of the new livery AA CRJ's was parked at A1 when I arrived from O'Hare this morning, definitely better looking in person.

Agreed, I was on that flight!

Topic: RE: Airlines And The Walmart Shareholders Meeting
Username: PA727
Posted 2013-03-24 10:30:03 and read 4430 times.

As a general rule, WM typically brings in 10-12,000 for Shareholders. One from every facility around the world and other members of management in the field. Those within a certain radius travel in by bus/car while those outside the radius fly in. Typically, there isn't much upgauging outside of perhaps a couple additional AA MD80s.

The biggest impact is on fares. The flights on the Sunday/Monday before and Friday/Saturday after the meeting are packed solid and XNA is fairly maxed out, so anyone else traveling that week is going to pay a hefty premium, which is good for business.

Walmart Aviation is much like the mothership in terms of keeping costs low, but their safety record is unparalleled. There are absolutely no corners cut on safety. Creature comforts on the other hand, not so much. Nothing like the build it yourself bathroom on the Lear 30s!  

AA/Eagle is the dominant carrier by far at XNA and have great corporate contracts, although I've heard rumors and speculation that Delta might be looking at upping their presence.

The biggest wish those of us in Northwest Arkansas have is for an LCC to enter the market - one with daily scheduled flights since G4 does have a presence. But since we're boxed in with WN in TUL, LIT and now BKG, I'm not sure how realistic that option is. It' a great airport, has good mix of destinations for the market size and it feels like it's an LCC entry away from being perfect. Anyone out there that can help us out on that end?


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