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Topic: Southwest Adding A New Service In GEG!
Username: wnflyguy
Posted 2013-03-23 20:15:40 and read 6436 times.

Saw on Southwest.com they added GEG-MDW non stop in June.
GEG-MDW 12:45pm-06:05pm
MDW-GEG 10:25am-12:10pm
Good for GEG   
wnfg

[Edited 2013-03-23 20:19:54]

Topic: RE: Southwest Adding A New Service In GEG!
Username: wnflyguy
Posted 2013-03-23 20:23:39 and read 6398 times.

It will be interesting to see how well this will do.
Because always full SNA-MDW flights get cut but I guess high hopes for GEG?
wnfg  

Topic: RE: Southwest Adding A New Service In GEG!
Username: reddevl442
Posted 2013-03-23 20:49:40 and read 6258 times.

Good to see that. Hope it does well, GEG has been seeking year round non-stop to Chicago for a while now. UA does it to ORD, but it is only in summer, and not mainline.

Topic: RE: Southwest Adding A New Service In GEG!
Username: nutsaboutplanes
Posted 2013-03-23 20:52:35 and read 6239 times.

Is this seasonal or year round?

Topic: RE: Southwest Adding A New Service In GEG!
Username: iowaman
Posted 2013-03-23 21:33:15 and read 6042 times.

It's nice to see a station that has seen lots of cuts lately get some "LUV."

Quoting nutsaboutplanes (Reply 3):
Is this seasonal or year round?

Seasonal through September 8th. Unfortunate it's not sticking around, but WN will bring it back next year if it performs well I would bet.

For anyone interested in the WN destinations from GEG over the years, here's a quick run down from old timetables I have. Hard to believe AS has completed pushed them off SEA and PDX.

Inaugural cities June 1994:
4x SEA
3x GEG
1x OAK

June 2000:
7x SEA
4x PDX
3x BOI
1x OAK
1x SLC
1x LAS (Saturday only)
Total of 16 daily on weekdays

June 2003:
7x SEA
4x PDX
3x BOI
1x OAK
1x SLC
Total of 16 daily

2005:
4x SEA
4x PDX
3x BOI
1x LAS
1x SLC
1x OAK
Total of 14 daily

And current:
2x BOI
2x DEN
2x LAS
2x OAK
1x PHX
1x MDW (Seasonal)

Total of 10 daily, including the seasonal flight.

[Edited 2013-03-23 21:33:58]

Topic: RE: Southwest Adding A New Service In GEG!
Username: wnflyguy
Posted 2013-03-23 21:36:26 and read 6024 times.

Right now it's showing on Southwest.com bookable in June,July and Aug only so far.
May be it's seasonal?
Could be testing the waters see how well it does before making it Year round.
wnfg 

Topic: RE: Southwest Adding A New Service In GEG!
Username: n7371f
Posted 2013-03-23 22:09:57 and read 5937 times.

Brilliant.

United used to run 2x daily with the 72S right before 9/11 in summer but for whatever reason UA treats GEG like Siberia (2x DEN in summer and that's it).

Should prove good competition with DL via MSP. DL set for 3x 757 in summer carrying on the old NWA summer schedule.

Besides DL via MSP, UA has one DEN connection early morning that connects to the entire east coast network (the afternoon doesn't).

Frontier had 3x last summer via DEN and onto most of F9 east network but Shurz and his pals are down to 1x this summer; expect this to go away in January.

That's about it for connection competition to the east. Love it!

Topic: RE: Southwest Adding A New Service In GEG!
Username: SurfandSnow
Posted 2013-03-23 23:10:56 and read 5773 times.

Quoting wnflyguy (Thread starter):
Saw on Southwest.com they added GEG-MDW non stop in June.

Wow! Although MDW keeps getting linked nonstop to more and more WN/FL stations, I really didn't expect to see this happen - not after recent schedule changes whereby MDW-RNO went seasonal and MDW-SNA was cut permanently (again). On the other hand, GEG has been doing quite well with air service lately, what with new G4 nonstops to HNL, DL daily nonstop service to LAX starting in June, and now this. Any idea what the frequency of this new MDW-GEG is like? Is it seasonal, or year round?

Quoting wnflyguy (Thread starter):
GEG-MDW 12:45pm-06:05pm
MDW-GEG 10:25am-12:10pm

A great schedule for O&D traffic. I remember taking UA's ORD-GEG back in the early 2000s, which ran on an awful RON schedule. We arrived into GEG around 11 PM, meaning we did not get to our destination (Coeur d'Alene) until the middle of the night. We refused to take the 6 AM nonstop departure back to ORD, leaving us with no choice but to connect through DEN on the way back. Seeing as how GEG serves a lot more than just the city of Spokane, I bet we weren't the only ones to find that schedule extremely unattractive. WN's schedule should be able to provide great connectivity at MDW, while sparing many GEG O&D pax from arriving and/or departing at ungodly hours from their homes or destinations.

Quoting wnflyguy (Thread starter):
Good for GEG

WN has completely revamped their GEG offering in the past 10 years. When I went to GEG, they weren't even serving LAS nonstop; at that time their nonstop options were limited to BOI, OAK, PDX, SEA, and SLC. As such, you couldn't get very far - many places east of the Mississippi simply weren't an option on WN, unless you bought 2 separate itineraries! Now the competitive shorter hauls to PDX, SEA, and SLC are gone, which isn't surprising considering AS/DL enjoy extensive FF loyalty and superior connectivity in each of their respective hub markets. WN has since linked GEG nonstop to its own hubs. DEN, LAS, and PHX are very popular destinations in their own right, but they also just so happen to offer excellent access to the entire WN network! I imagine GEG-BOI has been spared from the recent wave of short haul cuts as WN enjoys a monopoly on what is really the only link between Idaho's political/commercial capital and the state's beautiful northern playground! Still, I would be surprised to see this remaining in 5-10 years. I highly doubt the O&D on the route warrants twice daily year round mainline service.

Quoting wnflyguy (Reply 1):
It will be interesting to see how well this will do.
Because always full SNA-MDW flights get cut but I guess high hopes for GEG?

Well, MDW-SNA suffers from strong AA and UA competition, plus proximity to LAX, which is served by a much more attractive 5x daily nonstop schedule from MDW as oppose to the single daily MDW-SNA option.

MDW-GEG is a smaller market, but no AA to worry about and UA now only offers pithy RJ service during the peak summer season. If WN sticks it out, they could eventually become the carrier of choice and possibly have Chicago-Spokane all to themselves. Looking on United's website, I can't seem to find any ORD-GEG options for random dates in July - all I'm getting is connections through DEN. So, maybe WN already is the only nonstop option?

Quoting reddevl442 (Reply 2):
Good to see that. Hope it does well, GEG has been seeking year round non-stop to Chicago for a while now. UA does it to ORD, but it is only in summer, and not mainline.

Well, UA was flying the route daily year round on mainline until the recession hit. IIRC it was on the 737. Unless they changed the schedule after I took the flight, I can see why it ultimately failed - the times were atrocious, especially for folks with a lengthy drive to/from the GEG airport. As for the lack of mainline, the S5 E-170s are a very comfortable ride, and with markets like ABQ, AUS, and SLC only getting UAX out of ORD, it certainly isn't surprising that GEG doesn't get mainline either. UA isn't all that strong in GEG, either. They have tried nonstops to ORD and SFO without much success, service to SEA is gone, really just leaving service to DEN up against WN and F9. Speaking of F9, I'm surprised they still serve GEG at all. By far the strongest carriers at GEG seem to be DL, with all of its mainline service to MSP and SLC, and AS, which now offers several daily 737s alongside the shuttle schedule of Q400s to SEA.

Topic: RE: Southwest Adding A New Service In GEG!
Username: iowaman
Posted 2013-03-24 09:45:03 and read 5216 times.

Quoting wnflyguy (Reply 5):
May be it's seasonal?
Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 7):
new MDW-GEG is like? Is it seasonal, or year round?

As stated in my previous post, the route is seasonal through September 8.

Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 7):
Well, MDW-SNA suffers from strong AA and UA competition


That and HOU-SNA essentially was a trade-off for MDW-SNA.

Topic: RE: Southwest Adding A New Service In GEG!
Username: wwtraveler99
Posted 2013-03-24 13:26:04 and read 4186 times.

Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 7):
Quoting wnflyguy (Thread starter):
GEG-MDW 12:45pm-06:05pm
MDW-GEG 10:25am-12:10pm

These times appear to be what the current SNA-MDW round trip are scheduled.


If not exact its close.



WW

Topic: RE: Southwest Adding A New Service In GEG!
Username: ASMD11
Posted 2013-03-24 20:16:37 and read 2157 times.

Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 7):
MDW-GEG is a smaller market, but no AA to worry about and UA now only offers pithy RJ service during the peak summer season.

Actually UA isn't even bringing back seasonal service this year. I would guess that may have helped WN decide to give it a go.


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