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Topic: JetBlue Announces Boston To Houston Hobby
Username: stlgph
Posted 2013-03-28 06:34:15 and read 7254 times.

Two flights daily beginning July 25. Part of its continued build up at Boston.

http://investor.jetblue.com/phoenix....-newsArticle&ID=1801404&highlight=

BOSTON, March 28, 2013 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ --JetBlue Airways (Nasdaq: JBLU), Boston's largest airline with more flights than any other carrier at Logan International Airport (BOS), today announced it will be adding two daily flights between Boston's Logan International Airport and Houston's William P. Hobby Airport starting July 25, 2013. To celebrate, customers can now book sale fares from $49 one way between Boston and Houston through April 2, 2013 at jetblue.com for travel between September 3 and October 9, 2013 (blackout dates apply) (a).

Boston to Houston
7:00 a.m. – 9:57 a.m.
10:35 a.m. – 3:15 p.m.

Houston to Boston
1:40 p.m. – 4:39 p.m.
5:20 p.m. – 10:00 p.m.

Topic: RE: JetBlue Announces Boston To Houston Hobby
Username: jetbluefan1
Posted 2013-03-28 06:47:07 and read 7203 times.

Finally! This is way overdue. Kudos to B6 for finally launching BOS-HOU, especially before WN hopped onto the route.

Great to see B6 continue to foray into large business markets from BOS. If B6's success at DFW is any indication, BOS-HOU should be another strong performer.

JetBluefan1

Topic: RE: JetBlue Announces Boston To Houston Hobby
Username: DFWHeavy
Posted 2013-03-28 06:51:05 and read 7171 times.

A couple of those times can't be right.

The Boston-Houston Flight leaving at 10:35 am - Arriving at 3:15 pm isn't right. With the time change, it would make the flight just shy of 6 hours. Someone posting the times must have gotten something a little mixed up.

Topic: RE: JetBlue Announces Boston To Houston Hobby
Username: CXA330300
Posted 2013-03-28 06:58:13 and read 7105 times.

Maybe 10:35-13:15? Mixing up 24 hour time?

Either way, nice to see more blue at HOU.

Topic: RE: JetBlue Announces Boston To Houston Hobby
Username: Tdan
Posted 2013-03-28 07:00:07 and read 7092 times.

It's about time! I think they meant these times though:

Boston to Houston
7:00 a.m. – 9:57 a.m.
1:40 p.m. – 4:39 p.m.


Houston to Boston
10:35 a.m. – 3:15 p.m.
5:20 p.m. – 10:00 p.m.

Topic: RE: JetBlue Announces Boston To Houston Hobby
Username: stlgph
Posted 2013-03-28 07:08:30 and read 7028 times.

Hi, yes, sorry about the times.
That is my fault --- they came in one on screen and copied and pasted over completely backwards on a different screen (where I had this browser) and I didn't do a thorough proofread. I see so many numbers at once they all just meshed together.

Topic: RE: JetBlue Announces Boston To Houston Hobby
Username: BOStonsox
Posted 2013-03-28 07:35:09 and read 6880 times.

I have one word to say about this: Finally!

This was the largest B6 market not served from BOS, and now SLC is, but that market is half the size of BOS-HOU.

Of all the cities with a fortress hub on the other end but a strong business market from BOS, PHL and HOU are the easy ones, but now they have to enter ATL, MSP, and DTW. It's going to be an uphill battle from here!

Topic: RE: JetBlue Announces Boston To Houston Hobby
Username: jetbluefan1
Posted 2013-03-28 08:06:29 and read 6749 times.

Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 6):
but now they have to enter ATL, MSP, and DTW. It's going to be an uphill battle from here!

Yep, definitely an uphill battle. I think the hardest things about those markets are as follows:

1. Delta
2. They will have to rely mostly on BOS-originating travelers; JFK would be dead in the water with a DL hub at either end, not to mention that all 3 markets are within the LGA perimeter. Unless they are willing to give FLL/MCO/SJU a shot (which could potentially work from DTW and MSP)
3. Virtually no brand awareness in any of those markets

JetBluefan1

Topic: RE: JetBlue Announces Boston To Houston Hobby
Username: stlgph
Posted 2013-03-28 08:41:03 and read 6584 times.

jetBlue's next big battle front -- Washington D.C.
Barger is speaking today in Washington and wants the 'new' American to give up slots at Reagan Airport so they can expand.

Topic: RE: JetBlue Announces Boston To Houston Hobby
Username: ScottB
Posted 2013-03-28 09:40:34 and read 6390 times.

Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 6):
I have one word to say about this: Finally!

This was the largest B6 market not served from BOS, and now SLC is, but that market is half the size of BOS-HOU.

IMO this route will struggle and it's not likely to be profitable. The schedule isn't competitive with UA and B6 will have to rely almost entirely on O&D traffic; only the mid-day HOU-BOS potentially connects to transatlantic flights on partners at BOS -- but the connections don't work the other way with the last BOS-HOU flight departing at 1340. The 0700 departure from BOS and 2200 arrival won't connect to anything.

Quoting jetbluefan1 (Reply 1):
If B6's success at DFW is any indication, BOS-HOU should be another strong performer.

BOS-DFW did well during the summer but it struggled during the late fall; load factors were under 70% in November and December even with the holidays in those months. And JFK-HOU continues to be a mediocre performer at best.

Topic: RE: JetBlue Announces Boston To Houston Hobby
Username: southwest737500
Posted 2013-03-28 09:48:31 and read 6331 times.

The one thing B6 needs to improve on is beefed up frequencies in business markets like CLT,DFW,ORD, etc...

I've been recording the LF out of CLT for the past week and the flights have been performing great! I think it's time for a 3 flight to BOS-CLT

Side note but what's the chance of a 3 JFK flight from CLT or BOS

[Edited 2013-03-28 09:53:28]

Topic: RE: JetBlue Announces Boston To Houston Hobby
Username: awacsooner
Posted 2013-03-28 10:02:03 and read 6274 times.

Ummm...WN will launch this route too, unlike B6, WN will have the connecting feed to help fill the planes

Topic: RE: JetBlue Announces Boston To Houston Hobby
Username: jfklganyc
Posted 2013-03-28 10:15:53 and read 6204 times.

I know from talking to a higher up that jfk hou is in fact profitable.

I suspect they held off on Bos because they were afraid of a WN reaction.

Truth is...they will have to face this one way or another as WN and B6 grow.

Topic: RE: JetBlue Announces Boston To Houston Hobby
Username: COflyerBOS
Posted 2013-03-28 14:56:05 and read 5469 times.

I am so HAPPY.

I fly between Houston and Boston at least 5 times a year. I will now choose B6 each and every time for the following reasons;

1) Hobby is so much more convenient to my home near Rice U
2) B6 > UA

So happy to have a choice. See ya later, UA.

Topic: RE: JetBlue Announces Boston To Houston Hobby
Username: tmoney
Posted 2013-03-28 14:56:05 and read 5469 times.

Quoting jetbluefan1 (Reply 1):
Finally! This is way overdue.

God! Been waiting for B6 to expand on HOU for the longest!
They need one from LGB to connect their west coast too!

Topic: RE: JetBlue Announces Boston To Houston Hobby
Username: adamh8297
Posted 2013-03-28 15:15:27 and read 5386 times.

Quoting awacsooner (Reply 11):
Ummm...WN will launch this route too, unlike B6, WN will have the connecting feed to help fill the planes

Are you thinking by 2015 when the international terminal is scheduled to open?

Topic: RE: JetBlue Announces Boston To Houston Hobby
Username: drerx7
Posted 2013-03-28 15:41:25 and read 5208 times.

Is it ejet or 320? Bout time this route started.

Topic: RE: JetBlue Announces Boston To Houston Hobby
Username: ecflyer
Posted 2013-03-28 16:03:18 and read 5099 times.

Finally some competition. I've spent years paying whatever they wanted to charge on AA BOS-DFW and UA (CO) BOS-IAH.

Topic: RE: JetBlue Announces Boston To Houston Hobby
Username: drerx7
Posted 2013-03-28 16:58:50 and read 4850 times.

Found it - flights appear to be E190s.

Topic: RE: JetBlue Announces Boston To Houston Hobby
Username: knope2001
Posted 2013-03-28 18:55:24 and read 4392 times.

Using Q3 2013 (the most recent I have access to) here are the 40 largest Boston markets, with non-JetBlue markets in bold. They're definitely covering a great deal of ground, with nonstops to 25 of the top 30 markets, and 29 of the top 40. Each of the 11 gaps are served nonstop by Delta and/or Southwest.

3894 CHI
3816 WAS
3517 NYC
3265 SFO/OAK
2937 LAX/LGB
2117 FLL/MIA
2028 ATL
2001 MCO
1959 BWI
1735 DFW/DAL
1673 DEN
1249 MSP
1244 CLT
1170 RDU
1139 SEA
1126 PHL
953 TPA
951 SAN
947 PIT
933 LAS
842 PHX
833 IAH/HOU
793 BUF
692 DTW
625 PDX
593 MKE
585 PBI
584 RIC
564 AUS
533 STL
529 RSW
438 JAX
393 MCI
389 BNA

378 SJC
372 SLC
368 CVG
358 IND

351 MSY
296 CMH

Topic: RE: JetBlue Announces Boston To Houston Hobby
Username: FlyUS
Posted 2013-03-28 21:31:11 and read 3889 times.

Great B6! Continue your expansion with $49 fares. Great to see another profitable flight added to your portfolio.

Topic: RE: JetBlue Announces Boston To Houston Hobby
Username: southwest737500
Posted 2013-03-29 05:44:47 and read 3192 times.

I think BOS-ATL will come in 2014  I do believe BOS-SLC will get connected soon

Just my thought

Topic: RE: JetBlue Announces Boston To Houston Hobby
Username: hohd
Posted 2013-03-29 07:37:57 and read 2976 times.

Hope UA responds with low fares, lately their fares have been skyrocketing, or may be they will not since JetBlue is operating from HOU and the corporate traffic may still go to United.

Topic: RE: JetBlue Announces Boston To Houston Hobby
Username: jfklganyc
Posted 2013-03-29 09:01:19 and read 2874 times.

Slc is a dog. They have the flight for the call center non revs.

I doubt you will see BOS

Topic: RE: JetBlue Announces Boston To Houston Hobby
Username: Flytravel
Posted 2013-03-29 21:08:12 and read 2607 times.

I'm surprised B6 didn't go in on BOS-MKE during the FL to WN process, and it let WN which still isn't so dominant on the route fly it exclusively now. WN will likely never compete on BOS transcons but it wants to link markets in the Midwest to BOS that B6 doesnt. But maybe WN will add some short routes to BOS already with B6.

FL has CAK-BOS. Im not sure it's a route WN wants to convert, but might WN jump in on PIT-BOS instead? I know PIT isn't midwest but its not too far as a replacer over CAK-BOS. BNA, STL, MKE, MCI and MDW are Midwest or bordering Midwest.

Topic: RE: JetBlue Announces Boston To Houston Hobby
Username: jetmarc
Posted 2013-03-30 04:10:36 and read 2552 times.

I see we're back to launching single routes only... Gone are they days were we'd open a city connected to multiple hubs like AUS with 6 destinations or ORD with 3. If we open MSP or ATL, I wonder if it'd just be BOS or if we would go all in and connect BOS, JFK, LGB, MCO, FLL, and SJU from day one. Some say that was our mistake with ATL in only having had OAK and LGB and not JFK... But if we're targeting business travelers only, then I bet BOS only routes for the foreseeable future...

Topic: RE: JetBlue Announces Boston To Houston Hobby
Username: jetbluefan1
Posted 2013-03-30 07:18:50 and read 2453 times.

Quoting jetmarc (Reply 25):
I see we're back to launching single routes only... Gone are they days were we'd open a city connected to multiple hubs like AUS with 6 destinations or ORD with 3. If we open MSP or ATL, I wonder if it'd just be BOS or if we would go all in and connect BOS, JFK, LGB, MCO, FLL, and SJU from day one. Some say that was our mistake with ATL in only having had OAK and LGB and not JFK... But if we're targeting business travelers only, then I bet BOS only routes for the foreseeable future...

I think BOS is the least "risky", which is why new markets (PHL, DFW, BWI) have only been connected to BOS.

JFK is a crapshoot. Certain markets work, certain markets don't work. RIC/PIT were dropped, and CLT/RDU/ORD are at pitiful frequencies. So launching MSP or ATL to JFK would probably be in the same boat. Though one argument I'd make is that, if properly timed, there could be considerable feed to B6's international partners. This may become a more compelling argument as more one-way code shares are established (i.e as we've seen recently with EI and Qatar).

LGB has slot restrictions, so B6 would need to swap a slot out of an established market. B6 has shifted its concentration to LAX, so that could potentially be more feasible. Frankly, I don't think B6 really has a strategy for the LA area right now -- and probably doesn't really care.

MCO could probably support at least one frequency to any new domestic market for obvious reasons (i.e. Mickey Mouse). Yields are the real question. Connecting opportunities to the Caribbean could help B6 market these flights.

FLL is more niche than MCO, so it would depend specifically on which markets are being served. I don't know if if DFW-FLL makes sense, but ORD/DTW/CLE-FLL probably does.

SJU is also niche...and very low yielding. I just don't see ATL-SJU turning a profit. Though let's see how the new ORD-SJU goes...I'm betting it will do pretty well.

JetBluefan1

Topic: RE: JetBlue Announces Boston To Houston Hobby
Username: adamh8297
Posted 2013-03-30 13:38:34 and read 2230 times.

Quoting jetbluefan1 (Reply 26):
FLL is more niche than MCO

There's over 5 million people within 40 miles of FLL and there is business other than tourism in South Florida.

Topic: RE: JetBlue Announces Boston To Houston Hobby
Username: jetbluefan1
Posted 2013-03-30 14:45:25 and read 2142 times.

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 27):
There's over 5 million people within 40 miles of FLL and there is business other than tourism in South Florida.

This is all true. But the ties are heavily skewed to cities on the East Coast. There is a reason South Florida is often referred to as the sixth borough.


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