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Topic: US Airways NFL Team Aircraft, Post Merger
Username: ckfred
Posted 2013-04-20 10:59:10 and read 6196 times.

I know that US has for airplanes painted in the colors of the Philadelphia Eagles, the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Carolina Panthers, and the Arizona Cardinals. Will these planes get repainted in a team variation of the new AA paint scheme, once the merger is finalized?

If so, would AA also have a plane in Dallas Cowboys colors? AA has been flying the Cowboys for quite some time.

Lastly, what happens to the name of US Airways Center in Phoenix? Considering that AA has naming rights for the areanas in Dallas and Miami (and dropped the TWA sponsership of the football dome in St. Louis, post merger), I can't see it having 3 areanas with the AA name.

Topic: RE: US Airways NFL Team Aircraft, Post Merger
Username: steeler83
Posted 2013-04-20 13:10:39 and read 6009 times.

I guess since Doug Parker will take over as CEO, anything is possible...

Quoting ckfred (Thread starter):
If so, would AA also have a plane in Dallas Cowboys colors? AA has been flying the Cowboys for quite some time.

Despicable!!   

I wonder if we could see something in a Dolphins, Rams, Bears, or Giants scheme...

At the same time, would Parker consider doing away with the themed jets around NFL franchises entirely? What about the retro jets?

Regarding place names, could they call one the American Airlines Arena and the other American Center, or "AArena"?

Topic: RE: US Airways NFL Team Aircraft, Post Merger
Username: TPAfan
Posted 2013-04-20 14:42:23 and read 5853 times.

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 1):

Well, regarding the stadium names, currently the Miami Heat play in American Airlines Arena, and the Mavericks play in American Airlines center. So basically, as ckfred was wondering, are they going to have a third stadium (Suns currently US Airways center), and if so, what would they name it?

Topic: RE: US Airways NFL Team Aircraft, Post Merger
Username: jfklganyc
Posted 2013-04-20 14:51:25 and read 5837 times.

New American Arena

AA Arena

AArena

American Airlines Fieldhouse

American Airlines Sun Dome

Lots of possibilities

TWA and STL was dropped BUT that involved a BK of TWA where contracts were voided as necessary.

In this case, if US has naming rights, they are likely under contract with the Suns and the terms of this type of event are surely included in the contract.

Voiding the contract (keep in mind US pays the Suns a lot of money) would likely not be an option for the combined US/AA company without a high penalty

Topic: RE: US Airways NFL Team Aircraft, Post Merger
Username: Beardown91737
Posted 2013-04-20 17:37:32 and read 5665 times.

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 1):
Bears

that kind of travesty should never be allowed

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 1):
"AArena"

"AA" isn't in the Horton branding. Parker may bring it back, but probably not.

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 3):
Voiding the contract (keep in mind US pays the Suns a lot of money) would likely not be an option for the combined US/AA company without a high penalty

   Maybe the Miami and Dallas sponsorships could be dumped in BK, but non-bankrupt US can't dump the Phoenix one. What could happen is U of Phx could take over the sponsorship and have a place to play their home basketball games.

Topic: RE: US Airways NFL Team Aircraft, Post Merger
Username: FlyUS
Posted 2013-04-20 17:41:37 and read 5661 times.

At this point, they should probably get the N.E Patriots before B6 does.

Topic: RE: US Airways NFL Team Aircraft, Post Merger
Username: Polot
Posted 2013-04-20 18:09:49 and read 5593 times.

Quoting FlyUS (Reply 5):
At this point, they should probably get the N.E Patriots before B6 does.

AA was the official airline of the Patriots up until about a year ago.

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 1):
I wonder if we could see something in a Dolphins, Rams, Bears, or Giants scheme...

DL is the official airline of the Rams, so you won't seen a livery from AA/US for them. I'm pretty sure UA is the official airline of the Bears, and they are the official airline of the Giants, so again no livery from AA/US. I don't think AA is the official airline of the Dolphins, in fact I'm not sure the Dolphins have an official airline at all.

Topic: RE: US Airways NFL Team Aircraft, Post Merger
Username: PHXFlyer16
Posted 2013-04-20 18:22:45 and read 5560 times.

Quoting Beardown91737 (Reply 4):
What could happen is U of Phx could take over the sponsorship and have a place to play their home basketball games.

You're kidding, right? You do know that University of Phoenix is not a real University right? It's one of those "buy your degree online schools." It doesn't have teams.

Topic: RE: US Airways NFL Team Aircraft, Post Merger
Username: Maverick623
Posted 2013-04-20 18:45:14 and read 5522 times.

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 3):
In this case, if US has naming rights, they are likely under contract with the Suns

Actually, the naming rights are through the City of Phoenix, who owns the facility. The Suns have about as much say in the name as the Mercury, which is likely none (other than it can't be named, say, Lakers Arena   )

Seeing as Southwest is the "official airline" of the Phoenix Suns, I doubt US is paying them anything.

Quoting Beardown91737 (Reply 4):
What could happen is U of Phx could take over the sponsorship

Not a chance. I could see GoDaddy making a bid for it if AA decides to drop the naming rights.

Quoting Beardown91737 (Reply 4):
Maybe the Miami and Dallas sponsorships could be dumped in BK

Unlikely. Miami is one of the best-performing and most popular teams in the US, and Dallas is AA's "home".

Topic: RE: US Airways NFL Team Aircraft, Post Merger
Username: steeler83
Posted 2013-04-20 19:08:08 and read 5483 times.

Quoting Beardown91737 (Reply 4):
that kind of travesty should never be allowed

The COWBOYS are a travesty.    Still, tho. Both are AA strongholds. Altho, someone did post that UA, for whom ORD is home, is the official airline of da Bears...

Quoting Polot (Reply 6):
DL is the official airline of the Rams, so you won't seen a livery from AA/US for them.

D'oh!

Quoting Polot (Reply 6):
and they are the official airline of the Giants, so again no livery from AA/US.

D'oh

Quoting Polot (Reply 6):
I don't think AA is the official airline of the Dolphins, in fact I'm not sure the Dolphins have an official airline at all.

Hmmm...   

How difficult would it be for AA to become the official airline? MIA is one of their best hubs...

Topic: RE: US Airways NFL Team Aircraft, Post Merger
Username: bohica
Posted 2013-04-20 19:38:50 and read 5437 times.

Quoting ckfred (Thread starter):
would AA also have a plane in Dallas Cowboys colors?

I think the airline only wants planes painted in the colors of winners.         

Quoting PHXFlyer16 (Reply 7):
You're kidding, right? You do know that University of Phoenix is not a real University right? It's one of those "buy your degree online schools." It doesn't have teams.

Set up a bunch of computers and have an online basketball tournament.  

Topic: RE: US Airways NFL Team Aircraft, Post Merger
Username: Beardown91737
Posted 2013-04-21 00:12:53 and read 5225 times.

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 9):
The COWBOYS are a travesty. Still, tho. Both are AA strongholds. Altho, someone did post that UA, for whom ORD is home, is the official airline of da Bears...

I was referring to a Bears logojet on AA. It would have to be UA, which doesn't do logojets like US does.

Quoting PHXFlyer16 (Reply 7):
You're kidding, right? You do know that University of Phoenix is not a real University right? It's one of those "buy your degree online schools." It doesn't have teams.

That was the joke.

Topic: RE: US Airways NFL Team Aircraft, Post Merger
Username: TWA772LR
Posted 2013-04-21 00:29:30 and read 5154 times.

Quoting Beardown91737 (Reply 11):
It would have to be UA, which doesn't do logojets like US does.

Which they should! I would love to see a UA Texans logojet!

Topic: RE: US Airways NFL Team Aircraft, Post Merger
Username: Deltal1011man
Posted 2013-04-21 01:29:52 and read 4985 times.

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 9):

How difficult would it be for AA to become the official airline? MIA is one of their best hubs...

cost money. Not sure why they would waste it on Miami. (I mean...they are pretty much, year in year out, terrible)

Quoting FlyUS (Reply 5):

not sure if B6 is the official airline of the pats but Delta carries them

Quoting ckfred (Thread starter):

funny thing here. While US is the official airline of all of these, Delta carries PHL/AZO. They use to also carry CAR/PIT.

Topic: RE: US Airways NFL Team Aircraft, Post Merger
Username: FWAERJ
Posted 2013-04-21 07:09:08 and read 3995 times.

Quoting Polot (Reply 6):
I'm pretty sure UA is the official airline of the Bears, and they are the official airline of the Giants, so again no livery from AA/US.

Correct - and UA also flies both teams on charters. There are ads at both Soldier Field and MetLife Stadium stating that UA is "proud to fly the (insert team here)".

In fact, UA is the official airline of all the major Chicago sports teams except Fire soccer (AA's lone sponsorship) and flies the Cubs, Bears, Sox, and (I think) Bulls as well.

Topic: RE: US Airways NFL Team Aircraft, Post Merger
Username: Byrdluvs747
Posted 2013-04-21 07:20:19 and read 3929 times.

If AA sponsors another arena it should definitely be in LAX when the Staples Center naming rights comes due for renewal. If its the typical 20 year contract, it should expire in 2019. It fits with AA's increased emphasis on LA on top of their already sizeable presence.

Topic: RE: US Airways NFL Team Aircraft, Post Merger
Username: Braniff747SP
Posted 2013-04-21 07:49:48 and read 3782 times.

Forget the stupid NFL--what about US' retro liveries?

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 15):

If AA sponsors another arena it should definitely be in LAX when the Staples Center naming rights

I don't think Staples will let that go--and if they do, I'll never refer to it as anything but the Staples Center.

Topic: RE: US Airways NFL Team Aircraft, Post Merger
Username: Byrdluvs747
Posted 2013-04-21 08:58:41 and read 3394 times.

Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 16):
I don't think Staples will let that go

If the naming rights were expiring today, Staples wouldn't have much of a choice with their weakened fourth quarter sales and current efforts to downsize.

Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 16):
and if they do, I'll never refer to it as anything but the Staples Center

Doesn't matter if you do or not. All the print and broadcast media will refer to it as the American Arena(or....) and that's what AA would be paying for.

Topic: RE: US Airways NFL Team Aircraft, Post Merger
Username: cessna53996
Posted 2013-04-21 10:36:41 and read 2951 times.

Quoting FlyUS (Reply 5):
At this point, they should probably get the N.E Patriots before B6 does.

Actually, to my knowledge, DL is the official airline of the Patriots. DL flies the Pats around on a 763 during the season. B6 is the official airline of the Bruins and possibly the Celtics. I can definitely see a B6 plane titled "Black, Gold, and Blue" in Bruins colors some day.

Topic: RE: US Airways NFL Team Aircraft, Post Merger
Username: SEA
Posted 2013-04-21 10:49:03 and read 2902 times.

A couple years ago I was flying a DL 752 from SEA-SLC and it had a Seahawks sticker right in the entryway. I always wondered how that got there.

Topic: RE: US Airways NFL Team Aircraft, Post Merger
Username: twincessna340a
Posted 2013-04-21 10:52:03 and read 2880 times.

Quoting Polot (Reply 6):
I don't think AA is the official airline of the Dolphins, in fact I'm not sure the Dolphins have an official airline at all.

It is my understanding that the Miami Heat use one of Miami Air's 734s in an all C layout. IMHO it would follow that the Dolphins use Miami Air as well, but their split C/Y 738s.

Topic: RE: US Airways NFL Team Aircraft, Post Merger
Username: Polot
Posted 2013-04-21 11:33:55 and read 2798 times.

Quoting cessna53996 (Reply 18):
Actually, to my knowledge, DL is the official airline of the Patriots.

I don't think so. AA was from 2009-2012. I don't the Patriots have a official airline at the moment.

Quoting cessna53996 (Reply 18):
DL flies the Pats around on a 763 during the season
Quoting twincessna340a (Reply 20):
It is my understanding that the Miami Heat use one of Miami Air's 734s in an all C layout. IMHO it would follow that the Dolphins use Miami Air as well, but their split C/Y 738s.

Keep in mind that the airline a team charters for their use and the actual official airline of the team are two different things. For the former the team picks the cheapest airline that works, for the latter the team picks the airline that pays them the most money. DL may fly the Patriots (as they do with many sports teams), but they can't go around advertising the team.

Quoting cessna53996 (Reply 18):
B6 is the official airline of the Bruins and possibly the Celtics

Technically B6 is the official airline of TD Gardens, not the Bruins.

Topic: RE: US Airways NFL Team Aircraft, Post Merger
Username: TPAfan
Posted 2013-04-21 11:47:34 and read 2779 times.

Quoting cessna53996 (Reply 18):

don't forget that B6 is also the official airline of the Red Sox. Sign on the outfield wall, a painted Jet, and their new, beautiful spring training facility is called Jet Blue Park. Funny though, when the NESN broadcast is going into commercials, it shows WN picture next to the box score. Probably just a small ad.

Topic: RE: US Airways NFL Team Aircraft, Post Merger
Username: 71Zulu
Posted 2013-04-21 16:14:23 and read 2637 times.

Quoting twincessna340a (Reply 20):
It is my understanding that the Miami Heat use one of Miami Air's 734s in an all C layout. IMHO it would follow that the Dolphins use Miami Air as well, but their split C/Y 738s.

Heat is on Miami Air.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BSK361


Dolphins fly AA and have for a while.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL9401

Topic: RE: US Airways NFL Team Aircraft, Post Merger
Username: Braniff747SP
Posted 2013-04-21 18:05:23 and read 2567 times.

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 17):
Doesn't matter if you do or not. All the print and broadcast media will refer to it as the American Arena(or....) and that's what AA would be paying for.

I doubt many will refer to it as 'American Center'.

How many people refer to the Sears Tower as the Willis Tower?

Good luck changing angelenos' parlance, it'll take years.

Topic: RE: US Airways NFL Team Aircraft, Post Merger
Username: NASCARAirforce
Posted 2013-04-21 18:27:57 and read 2543 times.

Quoting steeler83 (Reply 1):
I wonder if we could see something in a Dolphins, Rams, Bears, or Giants scheme...

Would love to see a Dolphins, Cowboys and Bears scheme. Not sure if they would have a Rams scheme since AA isn't all that much at STL anymore. In addition - would love to see (but unlikely) Reno Air, TWA and Air California retro jet - never did see any additional state planes after Nevada and Arizona - such as North Carolina or Penn, so I doubt we will see a Florida, Illinois or Texas - I am sure the Star A319s will become One World

Topic: RE: US Airways NFL Team Aircraft, Post Merger
Username: Beardown91737
Posted 2013-04-21 19:44:45 and read 2484 times.

Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 16):

Forget the stupid NFL--what about US' retro liveries?

You could start your own thread on that. This topic is clearly labeled NFL so those who aren't interested can skip it.

Topic: RE: US Airways NFL Team Aircraft, Post Merger
Username: Byrdluvs747
Posted 2013-04-21 20:20:26 and read 2457 times.

Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 24):
I doubt many will refer to it as 'American Center'.

How many people refer to the Sears Tower as the Willis Tower?

Good luck changing angelenos' parlance, it'll take years.

Yes it will take time. Just like Candlestick in SFO and many other venues that have changed names. However I'm not only talking about individual angelenos. I'm referring to the media(radio, tv, print, internet), and then there are the nationwide events like playoffs and the Grammys that are seen by non-angelenos who don't have the emotional attachment to the Staples name.


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