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Topic: UA Back On ORD-SJU 11/5/13
Username: KDCA
Posted 2013-05-10 08:43:23 and read 4247 times.

https://hub.united.com/en-us/news/company-operations/Pages/united-announces-chicago-san-juan-route.aspx

Starting 11/5/13:

1x ORD-SJU 739 8:20-14:57
1x SJU-ORD 739 15:55-19:13

Didn't they just drop this? Seasonal only?

Topic: RE: UA Back On ORD-SJU 11/5/13
Username: roswell41
Posted 2013-05-10 09:09:06 and read 4126 times.

I wonder if this is a response to B6. They're weak in Chicago already, so this may put an end to their new ORD SJU flight.

Topic: RE: UA Back On ORD-SJU 11/5/13
Username: rj777
Posted 2013-05-10 09:14:52 and read 4106 times.

Those route maps on United's website are a MESS! Haven't they ever heard of an interactive route map? Nobody can tell where one line starts and one line ends!

Topic: RE: UA Back On ORD-SJU 11/5/13
Username: LHUSA
Posted 2013-05-10 09:26:48 and read 4064 times.

Quoting rj777 (Reply 2):
Those route maps on United's website are a MESS! Haven't they ever heard of an interactive route map? Nobody can tell where one line starts and one line ends!

United does have an interactive route map.

http://cgi.ua.flightlookup.com/routemap/routemap-fullscreen.html

Topic: RE: UA Back On ORD-SJU 11/5/13
Username: EASTERN747
Posted 2013-05-10 09:34:35 and read 4027 times.

Cruise ship passengers.....IMHO I would fly B6 over UA anytime.....IMHO

Topic: RE: UA Back On ORD-SJU 11/5/13
Username: psa1011
Posted 2013-05-10 10:01:52 and read 3963 times.

On a random side note, interesting that this route map still shows SFO-ITO, even though I don't think it's been flown in over a year.

Topic: RE: UA Back On ORD-SJU 11/5/13
Username: SurfandSnow
Posted 2013-05-10 10:40:51 and read 3867 times.

Well I guess the 167 seat 739 probably has a bit better CASM than the 138 or 144 seat A320s that used to ply this route, but 20 F and 51 Y+ is way, way too much premium capacity for ORD-SJU. If there was that kind of demand, then UA would have put its 757s on the route instead of the all Y Ted A320s, and AA wouldn't have downgauged all of its ORD-SJU flights from 757s to 738s even before the SJU intra-Caribbean hub closed. I think they only reinstated this service because B6 added the route, and I notice the only beyond-SJU connection that B6 will offer is SDQ - B6 is definitely targeting ORD-SJU O&D here. Given that B6 is not very strong in the Chicago market, I wonder if they can last. I expected them to be offering connections beyond SJU to popular vacation destinations like the Virgin Islands, SXM, and PUJ. If WN ever decides to add MDW-SJU, presumably with their 175-seat 738 (it currently operates all of their SJU services), UA and B6 could be in serious trouble.

Topic: RE: UA Back On ORD-SJU 11/5/13
Username: usflyer msp
Posted 2013-05-10 12:57:25 and read 3670 times.

UA actually goes up to 2x daily on ORD-SJU in December by adding a RON flight. Crazy for a flight they just discontinued a few months ago....

Topic: RE: UA Back On ORD-SJU 11/5/13
Username: DC8FanJet
Posted 2013-05-10 13:19:32 and read 3613 times.

Seasonal Service. Not that much tourist traffic to SJU in the summer. I'd expect this will go away about this tiime next year.

Topic: RE: UA Back On ORD-SJU 11/5/13
Username: IrishAyes
Posted 2013-05-10 13:49:13 and read 3533 times.

Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 6):
I think they only reinstated this service because B6 added the route, and I notice the only beyond-SJU connection that B6 will offer is SDQ - B6 is definitely targeting ORD-SJU O&D here.

This is solely the reason why UA is re-entering ORD-SJU. In a way, the fact that B6 ventured into ORD (a mere spoke city in JetBlue's network) by launching a route to SJU was a huge slap in the face to United.

The Puerto Rican community in Chicago is fairly large at roughly 200,000 individuals with a median household income of $36,000, according to a study conducted by the Puerto Rican Agenda. JetBlue has built up fairly decent brand awareness in San Juan and is popular among VFR traffic. I wonder if B6 saw a lot of spill-over from their ORD-BOS/JFK flights continuing on to Puerto Rico.

That being said, I think its embarrassing that UA is spinning the re-launch of this service as though it's something new and groundbreaking (per their Facebook and Twitter social media blasts all morning) literally a month after they exited the market. Sad PR tactic on their part.

Topic: RE: UA Back On ORD-SJU 11/5/13
Username: United_fan
Posted 2013-05-10 14:26:42 and read 3330 times.

Quoting SurfandSnow (Reply 6):
If there was that kind of demand, then UA would have put its 757s on the route

Keep in mind that UA is selling some of thier 757's to FX , so there will be less to go around (no pun intended)

Topic: RE: UA Back On ORD-SJU 11/5/13
Username: KBJCpilot
Posted 2013-05-10 16:14:00 and read 2950 times.

I flew SJU-IAH yesterday and the flight was full. First was packed, E+ was as well, and there were only a few Econ seats open. The bummer was no that there was no Channel 9 on the flight and the IFE sucked.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/U...0/history/20130509/1638Z/TJSJ/KIAH

Topic: RE: UA Back On ORD-SJU 11/5/13
Username: United_fan
Posted 2013-05-10 17:32:03 and read 2852 times.

Quoting KBJCpilot (Reply 11):
I flew SJU-IAH yesterday and the flight was full. First was packed, E+ was as well, and there were only a few Econ seats open. The bummer was no that there was no Channel 9 on the flight and the IFE sucked.

I know how ya feel . I flew in a PMCO 738 EWR-FLL in March . No ch 9 , PTV's scrolling the same damn ads for the whole flight . I couldn't turn my monitor off because the button was stuck. Great crew,though.

Topic: RE: UA Back On ORD-SJU 11/5/13
Username: MaverickM11
Posted 2013-05-10 18:00:36 and read 2821 times.

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 7):

UA actually goes up to 2x daily on ORD-SJU in December by adding a RON flight. Crazy for a flight they just discontinued a few months ago....


Dumb. Fares start at $277rt all in. Gotta protect that sh!tty traffic 

Topic: RE: UA Back On ORD-SJU 11/5/13
Username: GEN2STEW
Posted 2013-05-11 06:58:02 and read 1825 times.

Quoting EASTERN747 (Reply 4):

Most cruise pax take what is the cheapest. The brave/risky/foolhearted ones who are too cheap to book the air thru the cruise line/ book a hotel the night prior are too numerous to count. It never fails when flying into FLL/MIA on cruise days I encounter a group freaking beacuse we are running an hour late and "the ship leaves at 5. What are we supposed to do?".


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