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Topic: Unusual: Seaplane Lands In Biscayne Bay (Miami)
Username: N62NA
Posted 2013-05-25 10:11:57 and read 6291 times.

A seaplane flew just a few hundred feet from my balcony a few minutes ago. It did a "touch and go" in the cruise ship channel (right next to two very large cruise ships).

It then circled back over Miami Beach (South Beach) and came around again and landed, right next to the cruise ships!

Is this even permitted? Last time I heard of seaplanes landing there was the old Chalk's service to The Bahamas.

I managed to snap a few photos:
http://www.airliners.net/ufview.file?id=5833&filename=phpOSMBU3.jpeg

http://www.airliners.net/ufview.file?id=5833&filename=phpu2aaLG.jpeg

http://www.airliners.net/ufview.file?id=5833&filename=phpGIZuov.jpeg

http://www.airliners.net/ufview.file?id=5833&filename=phpoUVe9M.jpeg

[Edited 2013-05-25 10:14:58]

[Edited 2013-05-25 10:16:22]

Topic: RE: Unusual: Seaplane Lands In Biscayne Bay (Miami)
Username: Aesma
Posted 2013-05-25 10:34:12 and read 6208 times.

In TV series I watch that are situated in Miami there are often stock footage of seaplanes, I remember a flying boat, also an ultralight one.

Topic: RE: Unusual: Seaplane Lands In Biscayne Bay (Miami)
Username: copter808
Posted 2013-05-25 10:45:58 and read 6174 times.

As far as I know it's permitted. Might be unusual now to see that, but it once was a major Miami airport. The old terminal is now the Miami City Hall on Dinner Key. If you ever get the chance, visit City Hall and look at all the historic pictures.

Topic: RE: Unusual: Seaplane Lands In Biscayne Bay (Miami)
Username: N62NA
Posted 2013-05-25 12:03:22 and read 5978 times.

Quoting copter808 (Reply 2):
As far as I know it's permitted. Might be unusual now to see that, but it once was a major Miami airport. The old terminal is now the Miami City Hall on Dinner Key. If you ever get the chance, visit City Hall and look at all the historic pictures.

What was interesting to me was that they did the touch and go, and then the landing a few minutes later, in the cruise ship channel right next to the cruise ships. Would seem to me in this "hyper-vigilant age" that something like that would not be permitted when cruise ships are right there at the dock.

Topic: RE: Unusual: Seaplane Lands In Biscayne Bay (Miami)
Username: copter808
Posted 2013-05-25 14:21:59 and read 5735 times.

Let's not let the "fear factor" destroy something we all enjoy!

Since I don't know EXACTLY where you live, I will have to speculate a bit. The area you're referring to may actually be a designated airport (X44) Miami Seaplane Base. It's a shame it's not used more often!

Since you live in the area, stop by the Miami City Hall and look at the pictures. Lots of pictures of the early Pan Am days. I was there about 2 years ago with a sailboat moored at Dinner Key Marina.

Topic: RE: Unusual: Seaplane Lands In Biscayne Bay (Miami)
Username: N62NA
Posted 2013-05-25 18:07:06 and read 5419 times.

Quoting copter808 (Reply 4):
Let's not let the "fear factor" destroy something we all enjoy!

Since I don't know EXACTLY where you live, I will have to speculate a bit. The area you're referring to may actually be a designated airport (X44) Miami Seaplane Base. It's a shame it's not used more often!

Since you live in the area, stop by the Miami City Hall and look at the pictures. Lots of pictures of the early Pan Am days. I was there about 2 years ago with a sailboat moored at Dinner Key Marina.

Will make a point to visit the City Hall, thanks for the tip.

Well, all I can say is I'm glad I happened to witness this rare landing next to the passenger cruise ships!

Topic: RE: Unusual: Seaplane Lands In Biscayne Bay (Miami)
Username: metjetCEO
Posted 2013-05-25 18:48:43 and read 5324 times.

Isnt the old Chalks terminal right on the channel?

Topic: RE: Unusual: Seaplane Lands In Biscayne Bay (Miami)
Username: cf6ppe
Posted 2013-05-25 23:49:49 and read 5052 times.

Quoting N62NA (Thread starter):
http://www.airliners.net/ufview.file?id=5833&filename=phpOSMBU3.jpeg

From the above picture link, I would estimate that the aircraft in question is a Cessna Caravan 208 with amphibian floats.

I remember the Chalk's Grumman amphibians landing in the ship channel and then taxiing up their ramp to their terminal.

Topic: RE: Unusual: Seaplane Lands In Biscayne Bay (Miami)
Username: vegas005
Posted 2013-05-26 00:55:06 and read 4958 times.

Of course it is a landing area...was used by Chalks for 30 plus years until they had the fatal crash a few years back...

http://www.airnav.com/airport/X44

Topic: RE: Unusual: Seaplane Lands In Biscayne Bay (Miami)
Username: N62NA
Posted 2013-05-26 08:59:49 and read 3556 times.

Quoting vegas005 (Reply 8):
Of course it is a landing area...was used by Chalks for 30 plus years until they had the fatal crash a few years back...

http://www.airnav.com/airport/X44

Well, this is quite out of date:

Seaplane Base Operational Statistics
Aircraft operations: avg 37/week *
100% air taxi
* for 12-month period ending 17 May 2011

Topic: RE: Unusual: Seaplane Lands In Biscayne Bay (Miami)
Username: dnl65
Posted 2013-05-26 17:29:30 and read 2683 times.

Chalks actually began operations near that site in 1919 and, until the
Mallard accident had never lost a passenger.

Topic: RE: Unusual: Seaplane Lands In Biscayne Bay (Miami)
Username: cjg225
Posted 2013-05-26 18:32:21 and read 2614 times.

Did you see what happened to the seaplane afterwards?

My uncle, my father, and I came within a few hundred feet of a cruise ship a few years ago in Fort Lauderdale in a small dingy and had the sheriff's patrol boat all over us in a snap. I would be surprised that a seaplane would be able to land so close...

Topic: RE: Unusual: Seaplane Lands In Biscayne Bay (Miami)
Username: Flopped
Posted 2013-05-27 13:52:32 and read 2226 times.

Hello!

As soon as I saw the title I thought maybe I knew which plane it was and the picture confirmed it.
It is N366TA belonging to Tropic Ocean Airways.
http://flytropic.com/

They are based out of Sheltair South at FLL and appear to have two aircraft that I have seen parked there. The other being N355TA. Their website also advertises that they service the Miami Seaplane base.

I hope this info is useful!

Topic: RE: Unusual: Seaplane Lands In Biscayne Bay (Miami)
Username: N62NA
Posted 2013-05-27 13:58:27 and read 2216 times.

Quoting cjg225 (Reply 11):
Did you see what happened to the seaplane afterwards?

My uncle, my father, and I came within a few hundred feet of a cruise ship a few years ago in Fort Lauderdale in a small dingy and had the sheriff's patrol boat all over us in a snap. I would be surprised that a seaplane would be able to land so close...

I didn't it was too far away for me to see and my binoculars are still packed away somewhere (I just moved to this new apartment). But yeah, you would think that "they" wouldn't want planes landing within 100 feet of cruise ships.

Quoting Flopped (Reply 12):
Hello!

As soon as I saw the title I thought maybe I knew which plane it was and the picture confirmed it.
It is N366TA belonging to Tropic Ocean Airways.
http://flytropic.com/

They are based out of Sheltair South at FLL and appear to have two aircraft that I have seen parked there. The other being N355TA. Their website also advertises that they service the Miami Seaplane base.

I hope this info is useful!

This is VERY helpful. Thanks very much!

Topic: RE: Unusual: Seaplane Lands In Biscayne Bay (Miami)
Username: flymia
Posted 2013-05-27 14:22:01 and read 2161 times.

Quoting copter808 (Reply 2):

As far as I know it's permitted. Might be unusual now to see that, but it once was a major Miami airport. The old terminal is now the Miami City Hall on Dinner Key. If you ever get the chance, visit City Hall and look at all the historic pictures.


No, that's Dinner Key which is in Coconut Grove that is the former Pan Am base which is City Hall. What he is talking about is the port of Miami where the Chalks Base used to be. It is still an airport though. Identifier is X44 and it is a public airport so yes this is allowed and used to be fairly common especially when chalks used to have multiple daily flights out of Watson island. It even had US CBP facilities! Such an awesome place to fly in and out of.

Quoting N62NA (Reply 13):
I didn't it was too far away for me to see and my binoculars are still packed away somewhere (I just moved to this new apartment). But yeah, you would think that "they" wouldn't want planes landing within 100 feet of cruise ships.

It's an open airfield. Not sure if you need permission to land there befor hand or not. But looking at airnav seems like permision is not needed. The seaplane ramp is private though and I have seen it used after Chalks too. A sightseeing seaplane was based there and it still might be based there. And as you saw an airline does offer service there.

These guys also fly put of Watson Island: http://keywestseaplanes.com/charters...on_island_seaplane_base_miami.html
A few years ago I went into the old terminal and now it's a cafe with tons of old airplane memorabilia. I remember flying in and out of Watson Island when I was a kid. Such an awesome experience.
Since you just moved there guess you haven't seen much but you will see seaplanes landing there every now and then. Not often but it's not unusual.

Nice view from your apartment btw!!

Topic: RE: Unusual: Seaplane Lands In Biscayne Bay (Miami)
Username: N62NA
Posted 2013-05-27 14:46:28 and read 2099 times.

Quoting flymia (Reply 14):
Since you just moved there guess you haven't seen much but you will see seaplanes landing there every now and then. Not often but it's not unusual.

Nice view from your apartment btw!!

Yeah, used to live over on crazy South Beach - way too crowded and noisy. I love the fact that the new building is right on the flight path that MIA uses, especially when the planes land to the west, it looks like I could just reach out the window and touch them they seem so close!

Topic: RE: Unusual: Seaplane Lands In Biscayne Bay (Miami)
Username: flymia
Posted 2013-05-27 14:53:01 and read 2085 times.

Quoting N62NA (Reply 15):
Yeah, used to live over on crazy South Beach - way too crowded and noisy. I love the fact that the new building is right on the flight path that MIA uses, especially when the planes land to the west, it looks like I could just reach out the window and touch them they seem so close!

Yea I live under 26L 8R flight path for anything not going South so all the European Haevies in the afternoon and evening are awesome.


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