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Topic: Horses On Planes
Username: tb727
Posted 2013-06-03 14:59:24 and read 9566 times.

Wow, I didn't even know!  http://therail.blogs.nytimes.com/201...l-equine-frequent-fliers-check-in/

Topic: RE: Horses On Planes
Username: n737aa
Posted 2013-06-04 04:58:41 and read 8940 times.

Back in the early 90's I worked for a company that converted 727's from pax to cargo for Sterling and a number of other charter companies that flew horses. The set up is a bit different than a conversion strictly for cargo. One requirement was a class E smoke/fire protection and psu's for O2 for the handlers.

N737AA

Topic: RE: Horses On Planes
Username: NASCARAirforce
Posted 2013-06-04 05:06:31 and read 8917 times.

Kalitta has been doing this for years under the name "Tex Sutton". They have one Kalitta Charters II 727 dedicated to equine transport - usually between Ocala FL and LEX or SDF. Ocala is almost as big as Lexington when it comes to thoroughbreds, as there are horse farms and training facilities all around the Ocala area. I have driven by the airport at Ocala and seen that horse "air stairs" sitting there. A lot of the horses that race in the KY derby train in Ocala since they can train year round due to better weather in Florida than Kentucky.

This plane is probably very busy now with the Belmont Stakes race happening this weekend.

Topic: RE: Horses On Planes
Username: MaverickM11
Posted 2013-06-04 05:21:24 and read 8871 times.

I heard somewhere KL still transports horses weekly out of IAH on the combi, and often solicits volunteers to sit with the horses for takeoff and landing.

Topic: RE: Horses On Planes
Username: B777LRF
Posted 2013-06-04 06:19:40 and read 8664 times.

Usually very good fun, but some nags are a right pain in the you-know-what.

I've flown several horses from the Gadolfin stables to races around Europe; makes a nice change from hauling packages at night.

Topic: RE: Horses On Planes
Username: 26point2
Posted 2013-06-04 06:32:16 and read 8613 times.

Kalitta also transports cattle. Beef cattle from Hawaii's Kohala ranch load up on a 747 at PHKO for the flight to the mainland.

Topic: RE: Horses On Planes
Username: aerorobnz
Posted 2013-06-04 07:27:33 and read 8455 times.

Let me just say that being in a 74F with Stallions kicking their stalls is actually really rather scary.
- It's very loud
- It's very tight between the stalls
- they're very unpredictable (especially with females onboard). A collegue lost his finger when one kicked their stall just as he was securing the floor lock

Topic: RE: Horses On Planes
Username: YYZYYT
Posted 2013-06-04 07:44:07 and read 8382 times.

The new Samuel L Jackson Movie?

Topic: RE: Horses On Planes
Username: bobmuc
Posted 2013-06-04 08:42:19 and read 8184 times.

I think, this is common practice at some airlines and not unusual, eg Lufthansa.

See this video (sorry comments only in German):
"Animal Lounge am Frankfurter Flughafen" (Animal lounge at FRA)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bsna23t7x6c

Topic: RE: Horses On Planes
Username: rutankrd
Posted 2013-06-04 09:36:18 and read 7964 times.

This 744F owned by the Emir of Dubai is the most exclusive horse box on the planet


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Its nominally based at Stansted and close to The Emirs stables and training facilities in the English town of Newmarket.

Regular visits include Paris (For Prix de L’Arc de Triomphe), Covington (As pictured - Kentucky Derby), Dubai and Hong Kong. Sydney and Melbourne.
Occasional trips to Ireland are also undertaken.

Topic: RE: Horses On Planes
Username: cschleic
Posted 2013-06-04 11:57:40 and read 7333 times.

Somewhere I've got some photos of horses being taken off a DC-7 or similar at Miami, in mobile stalls moved around by a forklift. Also, one of the Just Planes videos of a cargo airline includes horses on a DC-8.

Topic: RE: Horses On Planes
Username: cubastar
Posted 2013-06-04 12:17:14 and read 7055 times.

Quoting tb727 (Thread starter):
Wow, I didn't even know!

Back in the '70s, we flew show horses (and others) from ATL to the west coast (scheduled ATL-LAX-SFO) on the L382 (commercial version of the Lockheed C-130). Had several trips with 4-5 horses and their caretakers whose destination was SFO.

On the last trip, the horses started acting up; trying to get out of their enclosed area, and rearing up and down even though they had been partially tranquilized.. They actually shook the aircraft like we were in light to moderated chop.

Several of them injured their shins so we checked with flight control and bypassed LAX and went directly to SFO. No major injuries and we (the crew) added on about 4 hours to our scheduled 34 hour layover in the city by the bay.

Topic: RE: Horses On Planes
Username: mac3xx
Posted 2013-06-04 12:18:18 and read 7024 times.

Very common main deck cargo arrangement on freighter planes operated in UAE;
I had the oportunity to visit the main cargo hold of a brand new A330F just delivered to ETD fitted for horse transportation, quite amaizing !

Topic: RE: Horses On Planes
Username: mac3xx
Posted 2013-06-04 12:27:23 and read 6866 times.

Quite common main deck cargo hold arrangement for freighter aircrafts operated in UAE;
I had the oportunity to visit the main cargo bay of a brandnew A330F just delivered to ETD, was quite amaizing to note specific equipment of the plane to make the horses trip as confortable as possible ( and safe).

Topic: RE: Horses On Planes
Username: Flyer732
Posted 2013-06-04 13:12:49 and read 6129 times.

You'll find there are horses on tons of flights every day. Especially between Europe and the Middle East. I've flown more than I can count, if its summer in the Middle East, the horses are flying to Europe, and winter in Europe they're going to the Middle East. We usually would have between 3 and 12-15 per flight at peak times.

Topic: RE: Horses On Planes
Username: fr8mech
Posted 2013-06-04 13:19:01 and read 6028 times.

Back when I was a roving aircraft mechanic on JFK...read that as a mechanic that worked for one of the several contract maintenance organizations that populated the IAB....ahhh, good times....but, I digress:

Back then, I would occasionally service an aircraft that carried horses. Wow, the stink was freaking incredible...but, you eventually got used to it.

Topic: RE: Horses On Planes
Username: falstaff
Posted 2013-06-04 14:11:21 and read 5331 times.

There was an article about this in Airways Magazine a few years ago. It has been going on a long time too. There was another article in Airways written by Captain William Nash about him flying cargo with PA back in the 1940s with a load of horses, from South America. The horses kept getting watered at the tech stops, put nobody was dumping the urine soaked straw out of the plane, so the aircraft performance kept getting worse, because the plane kept getting heavier.

Topic: RE: Horses On Planes
Username: wjcandee
Posted 2013-06-04 14:25:11 and read 5159 times.

Yep, Kalitta has been doing this for some time now.

Topic: RE: Horses On Planes
Username: mrcomet
Posted 2013-06-04 21:37:18 and read 4207 times.

A friend just flew a horse from Europe to the US. $6500.

Topic: RE: Horses On Planes
Username: boeing727
Posted 2013-06-04 23:03:04 and read 3960 times.

These are all horse transporters...

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/KFS726

Boeing727

Topic: RE: Horses On Planes
Username: NBGSkyGod
Posted 2013-06-05 04:20:06 and read 3401 times.

Very common actually around the big horse tracks, if you ever fly through BWI, there are several horse ramps sitting on the cargo ramp area where UPS parks.

Topic: RE: Horses On Planes
Username: cvg2lga
Posted 2013-06-06 13:40:53 and read 2589 times.

ATI used to transport horses in/out of CVG on DC-8s. There was one parked by the DL hangar one afternoon & I drove a tug over hoping to get a look inside. Got a few photos outside and was allowed to enter the flightdeck to look and take some more photos. Only DC-8 I've ever been on, I'm quite thankful for the nice guy who let me check it out.


Tchau

DA-

Topic: RE: Horses On Planes
Username: Viscount724
Posted 2013-06-06 14:31:31 and read 2521 times.

Quoting cvg2lga (Reply 21):
ATI used to transport horses in/out of CVG on DC-8s.

A couple of ATI DC-8 photos.

http://www.airtransport.cc/gallery/horsecharter02.jpg

And came across this photo. Not sure what aircraft type, obviously a widebody.

Topic: RE: Horses On Planes
Username: RDUDDJI
Posted 2013-06-06 16:51:29 and read 2411 times.

Quoting YYZYYT (Reply 7):
The new Samuel L Jackson Movie?

I was thinking Snakes on a Train.

Topic: RE: Horses On Planes
Username: tb727
Posted 2013-06-06 17:19:00 and read 2379 times.

Quoting boeing727 (Reply 19):
These are all horse transporters...

The normal horse plane is 725 but it is in for heavy maintenance and is coming back with some winglets!


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