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Topic: Wizzair Emergency Landing At FCO
Username: radone
Posted 2013-06-08 01:20:29 and read 15969 times.

A Wizzair A320 with 165 passengers and 6 crew made an emergency landing at FCO hthis morning. Apparently, the left main gear failed to deploy and the airplane landed with a single engine running. The flight was supposed to land at Ciampino airport, but the pilot requested to land at Fiumicino, which has a longer runway.
Link (with photos):


http://www.ansa.it/web/notizie/rubri...o-emergenza-Fiumicino_8837966.html

[Edited 2013-06-08 01:25:29]

Topic: RE: Wizzair Emergency Landing At FCO
Username: B735
Posted 2013-06-08 02:43:43 and read 15632 times.

Looks like some pretty good airmanship! Kudos to the Crew!

B735

Topic: RE: Wizzair Emergency Landing At FCO
Username: AR385
Posted 2013-06-08 03:44:40 and read 15271 times.

Yes, the article mentions only one engine running. I don´t get what that has to do with the left landing gear not coming down, though. Excellent airmanship, true. If one engine stops running on an A320 then there´s not enough power for the entire gear to come down? I don´t get it.

Topic: RE: Wizzair Emergency Landing At FCO
Username: KarelXWB
Posted 2013-06-08 03:46:35 and read 15254 times.

Quoting AR385 (Reply 2):
I don´t get it.

How about 2 different problems? First an engine failure and next the left main landing gear failed to deploy while they tried to land.

Topic: RE: Wizzair Emergency Landing At FCO
Username: AR385
Posted 2013-06-08 03:51:06 and read 15214 times.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 3):
How about 2 different problems? First an engine failure and next the left main landing gear failed to deploy while they tried to land.

Could be. But statistically, what are the chances of those events happening in the same aircraft in the same flight? I don´t think it´s possible. The article must have gotten the thing about he engine wrong.

Topic: RE: Wizzair Emergency Landing At FCO
Username: KarelXWB
Posted 2013-06-08 05:16:40 and read 14669 times.

Quoting AR385 (Reply 4):
The article must have gotten the thing about he engine wrong.

It seems like you're right:

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20130608-0

Topic: RE: Wizzair Emergency Landing At FCO
Username: fpetrutiu
Posted 2013-06-08 05:26:47 and read 14590 times.

Out of curiosity. Wouldn't it be safer to land with no gear than having only the left or right main gear? It just seems that landing on only one is a recipe for disaster

Topic: RE: Wizzair Emergency Landing At FCO
Username: kalvado
Posted 2013-06-08 05:36:45 and read 14507 times.

Quoting AR385 (Reply 2):
Yes, the article mentions only one engine running. I don´t get what that has to do with the left landing gear not coming down, though.

Hint: belly landings are done with both engines off.

Topic: RE: Wizzair Emergency Landing At FCO
Username: KarelXWB
Posted 2013-06-08 06:09:24 and read 14033 times.

Here is the flight profile before the landing:

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BMObU3DCQAA-ccd.jpg:large

Topic: RE: Wizzair Emergency Landing At FCO
Username: AR385
Posted 2013-06-08 06:31:01 and read 13704 times.

Quoting kalvado (Reply 7):
Hint: belly landings are done with both engines off.

I expect they might be turned off once the plane is on the ground, but certainly not while on finals, with or without landing gear.

Topic: RE: Wizzair Emergency Landing At FCO
Username: BestWestern
Posted 2013-06-08 06:36:12 and read 13637 times.

Quoting fpetrutiu (Reply 6):

Out of curiosity. Wouldn't it be safer to land with no gear than having only the left or right main gear? It just seems that landing on only one is a recipe for disaster

No - pilots can land on one gear and slow the aircraft right down - basically keeping the aircraft stable until the speed drops - and then the fuselage hits the concrete. i watched a transaer A300 do just this in Dublin nearly 15 years ago. It was stunning to watch.

Kind of like this Piedmont Airlines 737 flight where the left main gear became stuck...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3syTxW85Ik

Topic: RE: Wizzair Emergency Landing At FCO
Username: BestWestern
Posted 2013-06-08 06:46:59 and read 13496 times.

Pilots like this deserve a pay rise....


This one - Bae ATP landing, I believe in Manchester where the pilot pulled off a textbook landing.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cba_1232399376&comments=1

Demonstrates why one gear is better than none..

This was in 1998 - it only feels like it happened yesterday.


Here is another one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2HzJdLQG-c

Topic: RE: Wizzair Emergency Landing At FCO
Username: 777
Posted 2013-06-08 07:45:24 and read 12773 times.

At the following link some very interesting pictures

http://roma.corriere.it/roma/gallery...02a-11e2-9950-94356dc22e3e.shtml#2

Big emphasis on the Italian newpaper on the fact that the cpt was a former AZ pilot (Italian).

Topic: RE: Wizzair Emergency Landing At FCO
Username: BestWestern
Posted 2013-06-08 08:50:09 and read 11838 times.

One error was that the doors and slides were deployed on the side in the air... could have ended in a painful drop...

But in the panic of an emergency - these tiny mistakes happen.

Topic: RE: Wizzair Emergency Landing At FCO
Username: francoflier
Posted 2013-06-08 09:51:24 and read 11048 times.

Quoting BestWestern (Reply 13):
One error was that the doors and slides were deployed on the side in the air... could have ended in a painful drop...

On some aircrafts, the front door slides are designed to be useable even in a nose up position. Don't know about the A320, but they seem to reach the ground ok.

Topic: RE: Wizzair Emergency Landing At FCO
Username: 777
Posted 2013-06-08 10:02:13 and read 10888 times.

From the Wizzair website

http://wizzair.com/en-GB/breaking_news

Quote:
Wizz Air flight W6 3141 from Bucharest to Rome Ciampino today (8 June) diverted to Rome Fiumicino with 165 passengers and six crew for an emergency landing due to the left landing gear failing to deploy. The aircraft landed safely at 8:15hrs and passengers disembarked using the exit slides. Crew and passengers initially reported no injuries but medical assistance was provided for some passengers suspected to have stress and who have been released after observation. Wizz Air and Airbus are cooperating with the authorities in the investigation of this landing gear failure. The Airbus A320 involved is 13 months old and the last scheduled maintenance was performed by Lufthansa Technik in May 2013. All crew (4 cabin crew and 2 pilots) are based in Bucharest and the flying pilot is a Captain with over 12,000 flight hours acquired in the Italian Air Force and on commercial airlines. Wizz Air sincerely apologized to all affected passengers for any inconvenience caused and expresses its gratitude to the crew and the airport for looking after the passengers and handling this situation properly.

Topic: RE: Wizzair Emergency Landing At FCO
Username: JoKeR
Posted 2013-06-08 11:02:17 and read 10253 times.

Quoting 777 (Reply 15):
From the Wizzair website

Sounds genuine and professional. Mishaps do happen but to a new plane? A320 has a fantastic safety record, will be interesting to see the cause of this. Kudos to the crew. Fortunately all ended well.

Topic: RE: Wizzair Emergency Landing At FCO
Username: Aesma
Posted 2013-06-08 11:32:46 and read 9911 times.

Quoting AR385 (Reply 9):
I expect they might be turned off once the plane is on the ground, but certainly not while on finals, with or without landing gear.

Well if they know for sure they're landing (which they do at some point, since they're not going to go around once the gear has made contact) it might be an additional precaution to cut fuel going to an engine that will be scraping the runway.

Topic: RE: Wizzair Emergency Landing At FCO
Username: rcair1
Posted 2013-06-08 12:40:00 and read 9182 times.

In comparing this event and the B737 events - I find it interesting that the 320 ended up tail down - indicating that the CG was aft of the "virtual landing gear" center line. The 737 apparently did not. Do the 320's engines extend further forward from the wing?

Quoting BestWestern (Reply 13):
One error was that the doors and slides were deployed on the side in the air... could have ended in a painful drop...

The chute will flex down and reach the ground when there is somebody on it It would be steep - but not a fall.

Topic: RE: Wizzair Emergency Landing At FCO
Username: curlyheadboy
Posted 2013-06-08 14:23:19 and read 8167 times.

Quoting rcair1 (Reply 18):
Well if they know for sure they're landing (which they do at some point, since they're not going to go around once the gear has made contact) it might be an additional precaution to cut fuel going to an engine that will be scraping the runway.

Not quite mate, take a look at this video of similar event: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOtDcvQuhUs
I'm not a big aviation expert and I hope someone who is will chime in, but my best guess is that pilots shut down the engines as one of the first things after the airplane has come to a stop. I know that there is some videos of GA planes shutting the engines just prior to a gear-up touchdown in order (i guess) to reduce damage to the engines, but I will venture to guess it's a different story when it comes to an airliner.

Topic: RE: Wizzair Emergency Landing At FCO
Username: ely747
Posted 2013-06-08 15:17:28 and read 7723 times.

Just off topic - looks like the C check was performed well in advance. It's usually after 18 months, is it not?

Topic: RE: Wizzair Emergency Landing At FCO
Username: RickNRoll
Posted 2013-06-08 17:25:40 and read 6959 times.

I take it you can't brake normally, hence the need for a long runway.

Topic: RE: Wizzair Emergency Landing At FCO
Username: PlymSpotter
Posted 2013-06-08 17:37:52 and read 6893 times.

Quoting RickNRoll (Reply 21):

I take it you can't brake normally, hence the need for a long runway.

Braking is probably going to be improved actually... it's the time to set it down as precisely and gently as possible which eats the runway up. CIA is only a little over 2,000m, so yes it's best to go with a longer runway.


Dan  

Topic: RE: Wizzair Emergency Landing At FCO
Username: ArmitageShanks
Posted 2013-06-08 21:04:31 and read 6133 times.

Quoting francoflier (Reply 14):
On some aircrafts, the front door slides are designed to be useable even in a nose up position. Don't know about the A320, but they seem to reach the ground ok.

Unless the aircraft was on fire I honestly don't think I'd go down those without seeing someone go down first and make it out ok.

Topic: RE: Wizzair Emergency Landing At FCO
Username: rcair1
Posted 2013-06-09 15:55:20 and read 4235 times.

Quoting curlyheadboy (Reply 19):
Quoting rcair1 (Reply 18):
Well if they know for sure they're landing (which they do at some point, since they're not going to go around once the gear has made contact) it might be an additional precaution to cut fuel going to an engine that will be scraping the runway.

Misquote - I did not say this - somebody else did. I have absolutely not idea if/when they will cut the engines in this case.
rcair1

Topic: RE: Wizzair Emergency Landing At FCO
Username: curlyheadboy
Posted 2013-06-10 07:03:41 and read 3836 times.

Quoting rcair1 (Reply 24):
Misquote - I did not say this - somebody else did. I have absolutely not idea if/when they will cut the engines in this case.
rcair1

My mistake, apologies.


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