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Topic: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: Lofty
Posted 2013-06-10 04:33:34 and read 13024 times.

Just seen the delivery dates for the first 2 B787 and 1 A380.

B787's are 26th and 27th June with first 1 arriving at LHR on the morning of the 26th

A380 is 4th July

Training will be from Manston with routes being B787 ARN and A380 FRA

Topic: RE: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: VV701
Posted 2013-06-10 05:06:27 and read 12847 times.

Quoting Lofty (Thread starter):
B787's are 26th and 27th June with first 1 arriving at LHR on the morning of the 26th

If delivery is on 26 June then will not the arrival will be on the morning of 27 June? Or is delivery of the first aircraft on 25 June with an LHR arrival on the morning of 26 June? If departure from PAE was at 18:00 then arrival at LHR should be somewhere close 11:00 the following morning.

Topic: RE: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: seansasLCY
Posted 2013-06-10 05:27:04 and read 12727 times.

Any idea which flights the 787 will operate to ARN?

Topic: RE: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: Pe@rson
Posted 2013-06-10 05:37:08 and read 12658 times.

Quoting seansasLCY (Reply 2):
Any idea which flights the 787 will operate to ARN?

Presumably replacing the 763. If that's true, BA780 and 781. Any idea when they'll go on sale?!

Topic: RE: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: gazzadon
Posted 2013-06-10 06:51:48 and read 12336 times.

Where is the source for the training at manston..

Topic: RE: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: Pe@rson
Posted 2013-06-10 06:52:44 and read 12344 times.

According to someone seemingly in-the-know on another forum, "the B787 will be put on Shuttles to GLA, MAN and NCL, but no dates given for any flights yet."

Topic: RE: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: Tristarsteve
Posted 2013-06-10 08:28:10 and read 11961 times.

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 3):
Presumably replacing the 763. If that's true, BA780 and 781. Any idea when they'll go on sale?!

Correct, but we have no idea of the dates yet. BA780 are on sale, guess the date!!!

Topic: RE: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: Lofty
Posted 2013-06-10 09:09:12 and read 11830 times.

At least when it does domestics you will get a great view as you are coached out. B787 does not fit on any domestic stands.

Topic: RE: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: B747forever
Posted 2013-06-10 09:14:41 and read 11795 times.

I will be on BA780 in mid August. Hopefully it will stay as a 787 until then.

Topic: RE: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: RubberJungle
Posted 2013-06-10 09:18:36 and read 11761 times.

Quoting gazzadon (Reply 4):
Where is the source for the training at manston


http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...0-begins-end-of-747s-reign-386539/

[Edited 2013-06-10 09:19:28]

Topic: RE: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: gilesdavies
Posted 2013-06-10 09:30:04 and read 11695 times.

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 3):
Presumably replacing the 763. If that's true, BA780 and 781. Any idea when they'll go on sale?!

The 787 would not be a permanent replacement for the LHR-ARN route, is it?

Surely that is just for fleet familiarisation for the crew, and as soon this is done the 787 will be deployed in Long Haul routes... I thought the 767's (even the short haul ones) were going to be in the fleet for a few more years, as they have just completed quite a major refurb of the cabins on these aircraft.

Topic: RE: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: Tristarsteve
Posted 2013-06-10 09:48:24 and read 11587 times.

Quoting Lofty (Reply 7):
At least when it does domestics you will get a great view as you are coached out.

The B787 will be parked remote at ARN, so steps and busses.
It will park on gate 69 on Terminal 2. The B767 gate which is gate 66 is too tight for the B787, unlss the airport removes the Over the wing bridges, which they are not doing in time for August.

Quoting gilesdavies (Reply 10):
The 787 would not be a permanent replacement for the LHR-ARN route, is it?

Not Yet! It will operate until the start of long haul flights to America. No dates released yet.

Topic: RE: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: Boeing77w
Posted 2013-06-10 09:49:54 and read 11587 times.

Quoting gilesdavies (Reply 10):
The 787 would not be a permanent replacement for the LHR-ARN route, is it?

No it's just being used for training. UK routes will also be used for the 787 training but no further info yet available.

Topic: RE: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: rutankrd
Posted 2013-06-10 09:49:59 and read 11587 times.

Quoting gilesdavies (Reply 10):
I thought the 767's (even the short haul ones) were going to be in the fleet for a few more years, as they have just completed quite a major refurb of the cabins on these aircraft.

I think only 7 are refurbished and there is a programme from the autumn of pensioning them off.

Topic: RE: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: Tin67
Posted 2013-06-10 09:55:25 and read 11523 times.

I note BA are proudly announcing the forthcoming arrival of their A380 on Facebook, but absolutely nothing about the B787s.

I'm hoping YYZ will be one of the early adopted routes, as I'm booked on a 767 outbound in the Autumn.

Topic: RE: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: Pe@rson
Posted 2013-06-10 10:27:56 and read 11360 times.

Quoting gilesdavies (Reply 10):
The 787 would not be a permanent replacement for the LHR-ARN route, is it?

Surely that is just for fleet familiarisation for the crew, and as soon this is done the 787 will be deployed in Long Haul routes... I thought the 767's (even the short haul ones) were going to be in the fleet for a few more years, as they have just completed quite a major refurb of the cabins on these aircraft.

By "replacement," I meant on a temporary basis for crew training and logically replacing the 763s during that period.

Topic: RE: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: jumpjets
Posted 2013-06-10 10:34:38 and read 11307 times.

Quoting Tin67 (Reply 14):
I note BA are proudly announcing the forthcoming arrival of their A380 on Facebook, but absolutely nothing about the B787s.

Given the uncertainty until very recently over when Boeing were to be in a position to deliver an 787 to BA its not surprising they haven't said much about it - they probably earned a very salutary lesson after Thompson heavily promoted their 787 services only to have to backpedal pdq once the battery issue arose.

I am sure they will be shouting from the roof tops their position as the first European airline to have both A380 and B787 soon enough.

Topic: RE: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: widebodiedLee
Posted 2013-06-10 12:27:36 and read 10745 times.

Quoting Lofty (Reply 7):
At least when it does domestics you will get a great view as you are coached out. B787 does not fit on any domestic stands.

At Manchester the B787 can get onto one domestic stand, No 44.

Lee

Topic: RE: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: capri
Posted 2013-06-10 13:16:51 and read 9955 times.

was hoping to be on MAD flights in July, as I am flying on a 767 early morning schedule

Topic: RE: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: KarelXWB
Posted 2013-06-10 13:25:07 and read 9814 times.

Quoting Lofty (Thread starter):
A380 FRA

Excellent, I'll go for an AMS-MSE-FRA-AMS round-trip.

Topic: RE: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: Tristarsteve
Posted 2013-06-10 14:57:55 and read 8618 times.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 19):
Quoting Lofty (Thread starter):
A380 FRA

Excellent, I'll go for an AMS-MSE-FRA-AMS round-trip.

But it is not flying MSE to FRA.
The flying at Manston is pilot training. It will be flying to France and back doing circuits for pilot landing practice..
The FRA trips will be substitutions on regular scheduled flights from LHR.

Topic: RE: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: yycspotter
Posted 2013-06-10 15:26:54 and read 8280 times.

Quoting Tristarsteve (Reply 11):
start of long haul flights to America

IIRC, YYC will be one of the first to see service as well, as it is their longest 767 route

Topic: RE: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: Fiedman
Posted 2013-06-10 20:06:18 and read 6823 times.

Quoting yycspotter (Reply 21):
Quoting Tristarsteve (Reply 11):
start of long haul flights to America

IIRC, YYC will be one of the first to see service as well, as it is their longest 767 route

I hope they start this route by the end of July I am gonna be in Calgary the last week in July and I'd love to be able to spot their 787's

Topic: RE: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: boeingorbust
Posted 2013-06-10 21:04:36 and read 6586 times.

Quoting yycspotter (Reply 21):

IIRC, YYC will be one of the first to see service as well, as it is their longest 767 route

Correct! YYC will be one of if not the first 787 route!

Topic: RE: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: boeingorbust
Posted 2013-06-10 21:06:27 and read 6580 times.

This is for everyone who has to see sources to believe anything:

http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/new...b787-8-routes-reportedly-finalized

Topic: RE: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: Asiaflyer
Posted 2013-06-10 22:04:40 and read 6597 times.

Quoting Tin67 (Reply 14):
I note BA are proudly announcing the forthcoming arrival of their A380 on Facebook, but absolutely nothing about the B787s.


BA A380 will be on display at Paris Airshow next week as well.
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...-display-at-paris-air-show-386592/

Topic: RE: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: Maikel
Posted 2013-06-10 23:20:19 and read 6168 times.

I just hope that BA is going to announce some training flights with pax soon. Really liked the way AF did it on their CDG-LHR-CDG route, tickets were able to book way in advance to during that period, BA is already late.

Topic: RE: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: KarelXWB
Posted 2013-06-11 00:37:26 and read 5706 times.

Quoting Tristarsteve (Reply 20):
The FRA trips will be substitutions on regular scheduled flights from LHR.

Ok but AMS-LHR-FRA-AMS is also fine by me  

Topic: RE: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: TheAviator380
Posted 2013-06-11 00:43:59 and read 5694 times.

Quoting Maikel (Reply 26):

I read on previous thread that, when AF's 380 went technical there was chaos at CDG and people were very unhappy. May be BA want to play cautious game here and don't want to put themselves in a position to have criticism from people and media + chaos at LHR.

Topic: RE: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: bamf777
Posted 2013-06-11 03:03:12 and read 4659 times.

Quoting Maikel (Reply 26):

They have, it's FRA.

Quoting TheAviator380 (Reply 28):

Passenger loads will be capped at the configuration for an A320, so should anything go wrong they'll be able to substitute the aircraft with minimal disruption.
One good thing to note is that the system won't show a flight being operated by an A380 until 48hours before (I'm not sure if this applies for 787).

Only the main deck Club World and World Traveller cabins will be used for short haul flights however occasionally the upper deck will be used instead.

Topic: RE: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: brilondon
Posted 2013-06-11 03:11:54 and read 4571 times.

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 3):
Any idea when they'll go on sale?!

They probably are already on sale. There maybe an equipment swap when they use the 787.

Quoting TheAviator380 (Reply 28):
I read on previous thread that, when AF's 380 went technical there was chaos at CDG and people were very unhappy. May be BA want to play cautious game here and don't want to put themselves in a position to have criticism from people and media + chaos at LHR.

It is too late for criticism by passengers. Just listen to the people now flying with BA that I have heard.

Topic: RE: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: steve6666
Posted 2013-06-11 03:18:45 and read 4514 times.

Quoting rutankrd (Reply 13):

Quoting gilesdavies (Reply 10):
I thought the 767's (even the short haul ones) were going to be in the fleet for a few more years, as they have just completed quite a major refurb of the cabins on these aircraft.

I think only 7 are refurbished and there is a programme from the autumn of pensioning them off.


All the short hauls were refurbed and 7 of the 14 long hauls (mostly the newer ones).

Topic: RE: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: Navigator
Posted 2013-06-11 04:09:17 and read 4130 times.

Quoting Tristarsteve (Reply 11):
The B787 will be parked remote at ARN, so steps and busses.
It will park on gate 69 on Terminal 2. The B767 gate which is gate 66 is too tight for the B787, unlss the airport removes the Over the wing bridges, which they are not doing in time for August.

Maybe you are right but it surprises me. Two nose in stands on terminal 2 are originally built for planes up to DC-10 size, stand 67 and stand 69 I believe. So the 787 will fit nicely. The overwing bridges are moved away and will be no problem... What is your source?

[Edited 2013-06-11 04:42:15]

Topic: RE: BA B787 & A380 Dates
Username: Tristarsteve
Posted 2013-06-11 07:41:45 and read 3546 times.

Quoting Navigator (Reply 32):
wo nose in stands on terminal 2 are originally built for planes up to DC-10 size, stand 67 and stand 69 I believe.

It is gate 63 and 66.
We use 66 for the B767, and it is a tight fit for the loaders.
Yes the B787 will fit in 66 according to the simulation by Swedavia. But the wing tips (B787 is much wider wingspan than a B767) will be very close to the bridges. The cargo loader will have to drive under the bridges, or the wing, to reach the fwd hold. BA Ground Safety will park it on 69. It is not worth it for a couple of weeks. If it ever became permanent, the bridges would go.


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