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Topic: No More AA 757 In ORD
Username: American 767
Posted 2013-06-12 20:00:37 and read 10286 times.

Does AA still flies the 757 out of ORD? It appears to me that...no. Even MIA-ORD doesn't see the 757 anymore, mostly 738s and maybe once daily a 763 for repositioning.

ORD-SNA is now 3x daily all 738, for a long time it was a 757.
ORD-LAX is now all 738.

ORD sees now a lot of 738s and still some MD-80s on selected markets such as DFW, LGA and STL.

Please forgive me if this has been discussed before.

Ben Soriano

Topic: RE: No More AA 757 In ORD
Username: clickhappy
Posted 2013-06-12 20:09:12 and read 10257 times.

ORD-JAC is still flown with a 757.

Topic: RE: No More AA 757 In ORD
Username: DolphinAir747
Posted 2013-06-12 20:10:22 and read 10246 times.

Is ORD-MAN a 767? I thought it was a 757...

Topic: RE: No More AA 757 In ORD
Username: mesaflyguy
Posted 2013-06-12 20:11:26 and read 10248 times.

It appears you are right. ORD-MAN is now a767 and ORD-LAX, like you said, switched to all 737-800 as of yesterday.

BTW, ORD-LAX seems like a market that would at least have one or 2 widebodies on it each day.

Quoting clickhappy (Reply 1):
ORD-JAC is still flown with a 757.

Does AA fly that route? If so is it a Saturday-only or something like that because I don't see any AA flights from ORD to JAC today. They fly DFW-JAC with 757s though.

[Edited 2013-06-12 20:19:37]

Topic: RE: No More AA 757 In ORD
Username: Super80DFW
Posted 2013-06-12 20:23:31 and read 10109 times.

Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 3):
Does AA fly that route? If so is it a Saturday-only or something like that because I don't see any AA flights from ORD to JAC today. They fly DFW-JAC with 757s though.

They do, however the 757 leaves JAC for ORD, and turns right back to JAC. So this is indeed the only 757 that ORD sees from AA this season.

Topic: RE: No More AA 757 In ORD
Username: FSDan
Posted 2013-06-12 20:41:07 and read 9965 times.

Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 3):
BTW, ORD-LAX seems like a market that would at least have one or 2 widebodies on it each day.

AA has always had a daily 763 on ORD-LAX until this summer. UA used to have widebodies on the route as well, but not for the last few years (at least regularly scheduled). Overall, ORD has seen a lot of downgauges from both UA and AA, with less mainline/widebodies and more RJs. No more AA 777 on ORD-DFW, and no more UA hub-hub widebodies except for one 763 to IAH.

Topic: RE: No More AA 757 In ORD
Username: drerx7
Posted 2013-06-12 20:50:34 and read 9867 times.

Quoting FSDan (Reply 5):
UA hub-hub widebodies except for one 763 to IAH.

And 787s for the time being 2-3x daily.

Topic: RE: No More AA 757 In ORD
Username: thekennady
Posted 2013-06-12 21:21:24 and read 9732 times.

Sad to see this....UA has Also Reduced 757 service to ORD, they still have 22-24 flights a day including 3 753s(2 lax, 1 SFO). I flew a 772 on UA ORD-IAD in 2010 and 2012 but that's gone as well. AA Resumed PDX and added 1 mainline flight to IND, but they just like UA have outsourced many flights at ORD to RJs which is embarrassing for such a large airport to be Dominated by RJs. I've been spotting at ORD and seen 12-14 RJs landing in a Row at times.

Topic: RE: No More AA 757 In ORD
Username: TWA772LR
Posted 2013-06-12 21:27:33 and read 9685 times.

Quoting thekennady (Reply 7):

It looks like the sUA 757s came to IAH in trade for sCO 737s.

ORD should be interesting to watch in the AA/US merger...

Topic: RE: No More AA 757 In ORD
Username: ExpressJet_ERJ
Posted 2013-06-12 22:31:07 and read 9484 times.

I have not seen a 738 here in STL. When do you see it coming here? We need seats, they keep cutting the route.

Topic: RE: No More AA 757 In ORD
Username: mesaflyguy
Posted 2013-06-12 22:34:14 and read 9468 times.

Quoting Super80DFW (Reply 4):

Gotcha, thanks!   I wonder why flightaware doesn't show it (unless the flight hasn't started operating for this season yet)?

Topic: RE: No More AA 757 In ORD
Username: HNL
Posted 2013-06-13 12:53:35 and read 7739 times.

The AA 757s return to ORD in the winter.

Topic: RE: No More AA 757 In ORD
Username: thekennady
Posted 2013-06-13 13:03:56 and read 7596 times.

Quoting HNL (Reply 11):

U Know what the schedule looks like? MIA? LAX again?

Topic: RE: No More AA 757 In ORD
Username: N62NA
Posted 2013-06-13 16:44:04 and read 5577 times.

Quoting mesaflyguy (Reply 3):
BTW, ORD-LAX seems like a market that would at least have one or 2 widebodies on it each day.

Or... 15 widebodies per day:

http://www.departedflights.com/LAX79p1.html

 

Topic: RE: No More AA 757 In ORD
Username: 777ord
Posted 2013-06-13 17:32:08 and read 5183 times.

Quoting FSDan (Reply 5):
No more AA 777 on ORD-DFW, and no more UA hub-hub widebodies except for one 763 to IAH.

Not entirely true...

We ("United") run daily 788's from IAH to: LAX, DEN (and on to NRT), ORD.. S-UA runs the 763 from IAH-ORD-IAH. And, we run s-CO 752 from LAX/SFO to JFK (although, not a hub) and from EWR-ORD in support of the ORD-SNN route sCO has. Do know, Continental considers the 757 widebody due to fleet commonality with 762/4.. .

Topic: RE: No More AA 757 In ORD
Username: einsteinboricua
Posted 2013-06-13 18:57:41 and read 4496 times.

I recall some time ago Wikipedia stated that AA had positioned its aircraft to serve a particular hub. I remember the A300s never saw service out of MIA, JFK, and SJU. ORD, DFW, and LAX never saw the A300 in regular service during the twilight years of the aircraft. Likewise, the MD80s were a regular sight in DFW, ORD, and LAX. Rarely seen in MIA and JFK, and never seen in SJU.

I don't know how true it was (though in reality true or not, it made sense), but I wouldn't be surprised if AA is doing this now. The 757s being redeployed from MIA, JFK, and DFW to transcon, hub to hub, and international routes (to the Caribbean and Latin America) while 737s fill the void left.

Topic: RE: No More AA 757 In ORD
Username: LONGisland89
Posted 2013-06-13 19:40:39 and read 4082 times.

Quoting HNL (Reply 11):
The AA 757s return to ORD in the winter.
Quoting HNL (Reply 11):
U Know what the schedule looks like? MIA? LAX again?

A quick look at December shows 9X to MIA, 1X to MAN, 1X to EGE and 1X LAX-ORD* (ORD-LAX does not show any 752s)

Topic: RE: No More AA 757 In ORD
Username: surfandsnow
Posted 2013-06-13 19:56:23 and read 3917 times.

Well, it's not like AA ever had much in the way of 757 service at ORD. Going back to the late 90s and early 2000s, when AA offered far more mainline service at ORD than it does today, all but a handful of their domestic and transborder flights were operated by MD-80s or F100s. The MD-80 flew just about everywhere. Markets big and small, near and far, from SEA and SJD to PVD and SWF. Even the ultra-high frequency ORD-DFW was all MD-80, except for the 1x daily 777 that allowed AA to offer "direct" DFW-ORD-LHR before the end of Bermuda II (AA could only serve LGW nonstop from DFW back then). In all my AA travels from ORD, the only route I could ever count on taking the 757 was the [winter seasonal] EGE. IIRC, the only other times I ever rode an AA 757 from ORD were once each to LAX and MIA - some of the only AA routes from ORD that traditionally saw a variety of mainline a/c types! All in all, I don't recall the AA 757 flying anything other than ORD-ANC (a very shortlived service), ORD-CUN, ORD-EGE, ORD-JAC, ORD-LAX, ORD-MAN, ORD-MEX, ORD-MIA, ORD-SJU, and ORD-SNA. Even popular routes like ORD-LAS and ORD-MCO never saw AA 757s as far as I know.

If you are flying ORD and like the 757, take UA. UA has tons of 757 markets from ORD, although that may be changing with the availability of sCO 737s and retirement of some sUA 757s. I personally have rode the UA 757 on routes like ORD-ANC, ORD-CLE and ORD-YYZ, and distinctly remember seeing the type on routes like BWI, DTW, and RSW in addition to usual suspects like hubs and major West Coast markets.

Topic: RE: No More AA 757 In ORD
Username: LONGisland89
Posted 2013-06-13 20:29:54 and read 3771 times.

Quoting surfandsnow (Reply 17):
Even popular routes like ORD-LAS and ORD-MCO never saw AA 757s as far as I know.

I agree with your post, I'm just being nit picky. ORD-LAS, MCO, even PHX have seen 757s. A little more than a year ago there was one or two 757s on ORD-LGA as well. But yeah, the 752 at ORD was few and far between.

Topic: RE: No More AA 757 In ORD
Username: FSDan
Posted 2013-06-13 21:26:44 and read 3640 times.

Quoting 777ord (Reply 14):
Not entirely true...

We ("United") run daily 788's from IAH to: LAX, DEN (and on to NRT), ORD

Fair enough. There is currently a 788 on IAH-ORD. However, I believe that will go away as the 788 shifts back to international flying, and IAH-DEN will be the only domestic 788 route. At that point, I believe ORD-IAH on a 763 will be the only UA domestic widebody left at ORD (not including Hawaii, of course). At any rate, it is far less than the multiple daily widebodies on just about every hub-hub route a year or two ago.

Quoting 777ord (Reply 14):
Continental considers the 757 widebody due to fleet commonality with 762/4

Maybe from a pilot standpoint... However, 757s are not "widebodies" by any conventional definition of the word.

Quoting LONGisland89 (Reply 16):
A quick look at December shows 9X to MIA, 1X to MAN, 1X to EGE and 1X LAX-ORD* (ORD-LAX does not show any 752s)

December is way too far in the future to be a reliable source of scheduling information at this point. Dummy schedules for sure. That said, I wouldn't be surprised to see 757s back on ORD-MAN and one or two other routes such as MIA or LAX this winter. I highly doubt there will be 9x 757s to MIA, though.

Topic: RE: No More AA 757 In ORD
Username: TWA772LR
Posted 2013-06-13 21:35:39 and read 3612 times.

Quoting FSDan (Reply 19):
IAH-DEN will be the only domestic 788 route

When they restart the TPAC LAX flying, the 78's will have to fly IAH-LAX as well.

Topic: RE: No More AA 757 In ORD
Username: drerx7
Posted 2013-06-13 21:42:59 and read 3597 times.

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 20):
When they restart the TPAC LAX flying, the 78's will have to fly IAH-LAX as well.

Which is a route (along with IAH-DEN) that needed widebody lift before the merger anyway.

Topic: RE: No More AA 757 In ORD
Username: ckfred
Posted 2013-06-13 22:05:39 and read 3562 times.

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 15):
I recall some time ago Wikipedia stated that AA had positioned its aircraft to serve a particular hub. I remember the A300s never saw service out of MIA, JFK, and SJU. ORD, DFW, and LAX never saw the A300 in regular service during the twilight years of the aircraft. Likewise, the MD80s were a regular sight in DFW, ORD, and LAX. Rarely seen in MIA and JFK, and never seen in SJU.

Back in the 90s, AA did have A300s on ORD-MIA. I remember seeing A300s on the ground at ORD. Up until 2004, MIA did see some MD-80s. AA decided to pull the 738s out of ORD and the MD-80s out of MIA as a cost-saving move. Eventually, the 738s returned to ORD, but the MD-80s have not returned to MIA.

There was talk at one time of putting the A300s into LAX. I was talking to an LAX F/A back in 1997 or 1998. She had been trained on the A300, because there was serious talk of putting some A300s in LAX. But, those plans never came to fruitiion.

surfandsnow:

Back in the 1990s, AA was flying 757s on ORD-BOS and SFO. I know, since I flew those route a few times. I also recall trying to standby for a 757 out of YYZ for ORD. It was quite common for AA to run a 757 as a departure at a peak evening time, followed by an F100 for the next departure. In the last 10 years or so, I've flown 757s out of ORD to SEA, LAS, PHX, and STL.

A friend of mine was a 757 F/O and Captain out of ORD for about 14 years. I can recall his flying to PHL, DEN, and MCO, in addition to the cities listed elsewhere on this thread.

Topic: RE: No More AA 757 In ORD
Username: RWA380
Posted 2013-06-14 00:44:23 and read 3387 times.

Quoting thekennady (Reply 7):
I flew a 772 on UA ORD-IAD in 2010 and 2012 but that's gone as well

UA flew at least one 772 Intl configuration, ORD-DEN, as a tail end of the AMS flight, I flew this once sporting the Star Alliance livery on 12/03/07 in J, flight 909.

Topic: RE: No More AA 757 In ORD
Username: _AA_777_MAN
Posted 2013-06-14 09:13:28 and read 3078 times.

Quoting drerx7 (Reply 6):
Quoting FSDan (Reply 5): UA hub-hub widebodies except for one 763 to IAH.
And 787s for the time being 2-3x daily.



I have seen 762s and a 764 on th UA IAH-ORD route as well. A 764 Earlier this week actually.

Topic: RE: No More AA 757 In ORD
Username: dtw757
Posted 2013-06-14 10:15:13 and read 3025 times.

Quoting LONGisland89 (Reply 16):
A quick look at December shows 9X to MIA, 1X to MAN, 1X to EGE and 1X LAX-ORD* (ORD-LAX does not show any 752s)

That's a dummy schedule....Don't put stock in it. The schedule only loads exactly as it will be flown a few months out. After that it's a dummy schedule which can then have changes made to times and equipment. This allows for bookings to be made well in advance but most likely something will change by the time the flight actually happens

Topic: RE: No More AA 757 In ORD
Username: by738
Posted 2013-06-14 14:17:30 and read 2805 times.

Was hoping for a GLA-ORD AA OneWorld return with a more suitable 757 !

Topic: RE: No More AA 757 In ORD
Username: FSDan
Posted 2013-06-14 21:51:57 and read 2586 times.

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 20):
When they restart the TPAC LAX flying, the 78's will have to fly IAH-LAX as well.

I hope they do run a 788 on IAH-LAX, but I'm not sure that they will. It will be possible to route them between the hubs via NRT (e.g. IAH-DEN-NRT-LAX-NRT-DEN-IAH).

Topic: RE: No More AA 757 In ORD
Username: 747-600X
Posted 2013-06-15 12:16:10 and read 2317 times.

I didn't see in all this whether there was a consensus on the original AA 757 ORD question, but one of them is rolling around out there right now (didn't catch the tail number, but it's got the special yellow-ribbon decal), so they're not gone per se.

Topic: RE: No More AA 757 In ORD
Username: thekennady
Posted 2013-06-15 12:27:38 and read 2287 times.

Quoting 747-600X (Reply 28):

Should have been AA flight 444 from jackson WY


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