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Topic: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: Miami
Posted 2013-06-23 10:16:18 and read 11976 times.

EK was apparently rumored to launch MIA in October or November of this year.

Thoughts?

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: AeroWesty
Posted 2013-06-23 10:22:42 and read 11954 times.

Tired "Leak of the Week".

LEAK of the Week: Emirates to launch routes to Boston, Miami and Stockholm; Chicago on radar

And that was from January! Jeez, this just isn't news any longer. One day it will happen. Perhaps.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: crAAzy
Posted 2013-06-23 10:24:03 and read 11938 times.

I thought I read this post last night and there were several other replies. It this a repeat posting?

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: luckyone
Posted 2013-06-23 10:44:57 and read 11822 times.

How many times do we need to discuss this...

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: cedarjet
Posted 2013-06-23 11:01:24 and read 11695 times.

MIA is happening this year. Fact.

I don't know about ORD but the US Dept of Transportation has long been that where possible, they want at least two airlines on any particular route; even though EY op to Abu Dhabi not Dubai, it's the same country and the two cities are only 50 mi apart. So I am sure the authorities at the western end of the route will welcome EK with open arms to ORD.

Plenty of room in North America for the Big Three from the sandbox - when will we see EY in California, when will Canada get the stick out of it's ass?

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: Miami
Posted 2013-06-23 11:25:26 and read 11559 times.

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 8):
MIA is happening this year. Fact.

How come you think it will happen this year?   

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: 777way
Posted 2013-06-23 12:50:58 and read 11254 times.

I heard Oslo is due from February, anything on that?

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: Miami
Posted 2013-06-23 13:44:25 and read 11073 times.

Quoting 777way (Reply 11):

As far as I know, EK plans to launch BOS, MIA and ARN which already has been announced.

Next potential route plan was ORD. Not quite sure about OSL at the moment.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: jfk777
Posted 2013-06-23 14:52:21 and read 10895 times.

Its about bloody time, did Emirates really need to go to DFW after flying to Houston ? Miami brings the whole of Latin America they may fly to directly next. Bogota, Caracas and Mexico are all one-stop via Miami on EK. Though one-stop to Dubai is possible from many Latin Cities it would be on Air France or Lufthansa most likely. Emirates will bring a whole new part of the world to Miami, one never served from there. Could Qatar be far beind since MIA is a Onewrold hub.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: Miami
Posted 2013-06-23 15:04:19 and read 10852 times.

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 13):
Its about bloody time, did Emirates really need to go to DFW after flying to Houston ? Miami brings the whole of Latin America they may fly to directly next. Bogota, Caracas and Mexico are all one-stop via Miami on EK.

I'm sure EK will have a lot of connecting flights from MIA into to Latin America. As MIA is the leading entry into the US for Latin America.

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 13):
Could Qatar be far beind since MIA is a Onewrold hub.

I don't think QR is far behind. Chris Mangos (Marketing Division Director) told me QR is expected to come to MIA in 2014-2015. He told me now that QR is joining Oneworld, MIA is a likely destination.

Qatar Airways to Add More U.S. Cities as a Oneworld Member:

“And we have plans to expand to other [U.S.] destinations, in close consultation with our oneworld partner,” Al Baker added. Al Baker did not refute the idea – expressed in a journalist’s question – that Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport and Miami International Airport could be two likely additional Qatar Airways destinations.

Source: http://www.airlinesanddestinations.c...e-u-s-cities-as-a-oneworld-member/

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: adamh8297
Posted 2013-06-23 15:19:10 and read 10777 times.

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 8):

MIA is happening this year. Fact.

Its not loaded yet so if they decided to launch Nov or Dec you may be right.

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 8):
I don't know about ORD but the US Dept of Transportation has long been that where possible, they want at least two airlines on any particular route; even though EY op to Abu Dhabi not Dubai, it's the same country and the two cities are only 50 mi apart. So I am sure the authorities at the western end of the route will welcome EK with open arms to ORD.

US and UAE have open skies so EY could start JAX-AUH tomorrow if it wished to.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: Fastphilly
Posted 2013-06-23 15:31:41 and read 10726 times.

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 8):
MIA is happening this year. Fact.

There is no doubt that MIA will get a Middle Eastern carrier but to say it will happen this year especially when a major population center like Boston is still working to get their first MI carrier it's not a slam dunk. We have all seen this happen before with other airlines rumoring to begin service and then keep delaying the launch.

How many times did SAS put the word out for SFO service just to keep pushing it back before finally launching the route last March.

It will happen but it may be longer than you think.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: MaverickM11
Posted 2013-06-23 16:34:56 and read 10547 times.

I really don't see MIA happening for a long time--the market is just too small and cheap, and the big connections generally have one stops already.

Quoting cedarjet,reply=8I don't know about ORD but the US Dept of Transportation has long been that where possible, they want at least two airlines on any particular route; even though EY op to Abu Dhabi not Dubai, it's the same country and the two cities are only 50 mi apart. So I am sure the authorities at the western end of the route will welcome EK with open arms to ORD.:

I've never heard of such a thing...maybe in China?

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: usxguy
Posted 2013-06-23 19:36:17 and read 10146 times.

Wow, if my airline ever starts looking at serving Miami, I'll definitely make sure we don't talk to Chris Mangos if his lips are THIS loose...

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: Miami
Posted 2013-06-23 20:15:18 and read 9848 times.

Quoting usxguy (Reply 14):

Why? What did MIA ever do to you?

Quoting N62NA (Reply 15):
Are you saying that EK will build a hub of some sort at MIA to provide EK flights from MIA to Central/South America?

I don't know. Why? Do you think the opposite?

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: usxguy
Posted 2013-06-23 22:07:23 and read 9233 times.

the fact that an MDAD official is telling you what could be confidential information then you are posting it here, ALONG with the name of the individual is not something I'd take lightly, as someone who DOES work on the airline side of the fence. I'm grateful that people at other airports in Florida (Tampa, Orlando, Ft. Lauderdale) haven't discussed any of the projects I've worked on with them. If I were you, I'd go back and take out Mr. Mangos's name from your posts.

If Greg in Ft. Lauderdale or Justin in Tampa ever did that and our plans ended up here, I don't think either would have their jobs very long.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: Fastphilly
Posted 2013-06-23 22:10:44 and read 9216 times.

I think the opposite. MIA as a hub for a MI carrier for their Latin American destinations are beyond unreal. Better hope for a EK 777 daily at this point and not get to far ahead.   

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: Fastphilly
Posted 2013-06-23 22:19:01 and read 9165 times.

Quoting usxguy (Reply 17):

I understand about using somebody's name, but I haven't read anything in his posts that are top secret airline/airport information.These unofficial reports have been surfacing over the last few years. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to assume MIA could be EK's next US destination when the likes of LAX, IAH, DFW, SFO, IAD, JFK and SEA already have EK service

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: DocLightning
Posted 2013-06-23 23:11:43 and read 8922 times.

It would surprise me if EK didn't start MIA. And if not EK then another.

MIA is a huge O&D market in and of itself. It's a major center of the fashion and entertainment industries, a sort of LA-East. The relatively close proximity of Orlando doesn't hurt. In addition, Miami is, IIRC, the world's largest passenger shipping terminal with more cruise embarcations than any other port world-wide. With all these industries, there is a lot of room for O&D traffic.

For someone trying to get there from, say, PER, it makes as much sense to go via DXB as it does via LAX. And for those on the Indian subcontinent, it makes perfect sense.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: Mah4546
Posted 2013-06-23 23:55:54 and read 8712 times.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 12):

I really don't see MIA happening for a long time--the market is just too small and cheap, and the big connections generally have one stops already.

Not the best yielding, but ridiculously easy to stimulate and growing at an impressive annual rate. And Emirates is launching Miami in the near-term; there's little doubting that. It's pretty much a done deal.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: Miami
Posted 2013-06-24 01:09:08 and read 8345 times.

Quoting Fastphilly (Reply 16):

  I'm just too excited. You're right. Just hope for a EK 777 to come into MIA first. Then we can talk about future hubs   

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 18):
It would surprise me if EK didn't start MIA. And if not EK then another.

It's surprising how the internet, not just here but other sites talk about EK to MIA. I'm sure MIA will get EK sooner or later. When is the question. Everyone has been saying 2013. But I don't know. There is no source that says 2013 is the year for MIA. Although it was "leaked" that EK would launch MIA. There is no reliable source.

When can we expect announcement? I say September. IF it is going to be announced this year.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: AeroWesty
Posted 2013-06-24 02:28:07 and read 7974 times.

Quoting Miami (Reply 20):
When can we expect announcement? I say September.

Pick your year.

Emirates Eyes Miami (by MAH4546 Oct 8 2007 in Civil Aviation)

Rumor: Emirates And Miami (by MAH4546 Dec 20 2009 in Civil Aviation)

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: mileage
Posted 2013-06-24 04:44:16 and read 7285 times.

I will pop open a bottle of champagne the day EK launches DXB-ORD as my family does that route at least once per year and I swear that it's probably the hardest big city in the world to get to from DXB on EK.

There are other options of course (direct from AUH, DOH), but as someone (pathetically) determined to maintain elite status and put to good use 500k FF miles towards upgrades, I'm even willing to pay more to get fly EK.

The problem is that even getting to ORD on EK is a miserable experience.

The most "efficient" option would be to connect through JFK, but we all know that's a complete disaster, especially in summer. Last year, only evening thunderstorms in NY "saved" us from missing our connection thanks to ATC delays, a busted luggage carousel, business class tagged luggage arriving after economy, and having to change terminals.

The other interline connection options are via DFW or IAH, which turns your flight across to 16 hours before making the connection. Connecting through SEA and flying back eastwards is never efficient. (I'm facing the same choices this year... any experience connecting in DFW or IAH on the way into the US?...thanks)

Strategically, I think ORD is an important access point for EK to the midwestern markets that they need to address but with EY and QR already there it may be a secondary priority.

On another note, MIA is also an interesting discussion topic. Other than the fact that MIA is a popular destination on its own, the Lat Am connection may not be as interesting for EK. Having flown DXB-GRU/GIG/EZE, a lot of the passengers are people wanting to access LatAm from the far-east (and vice versa) WITHOUT having to connect through the US due to visa requirements (understanding that transit status may apply). MIA also isn't a great transit airport. I saw a number of people taking onward connections from GRU/GIG/EZE as well. However, could be a more viable option for central america or mexico, but then why not go through LA if heading to asia.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: airbazar
Posted 2013-06-24 05:30:03 and read 7009 times.

Here's what I'm curious about: Why MIA instead of FLL? Is it for the prestige? Is the catchment area that different? I've been to the area a few times as a visitor and to me it makes zero difference what airport I fly in and out of. Even when going to the keys if FLL is cheaper, that's what I use. But the reason I ask is this: EK codeshares with B6 and B6 is building out a nice LatAm hub out of FLL. I do understand that EK can still interline with a variety of airlines at MIA, assuming the flight is timed for connections but that's just not the same as a codeshare, and we all know how big a hassle it is to connect at MIA from an international flight.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: lightsaber
Posted 2013-06-24 06:09:54 and read 6781 times.

I'll believe it after EK announces. While MIA should be on their routemap, I would put BOS and ORD as just as likely.

However, the new A380s will free up some 777s for long haul...   

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 4):
MIA is happening this year. Fact.

Please share. Its been a *fact* since 2007...

Quoting Miami (Reply 9):
Qatar Airways to Add More U.S. Cities as a Oneworld Member:

This could be the spoiler. While MIA is strong for O&D, QR could compete with an A380 vs. an EK 77W if AA only cooperates with QR for connections...

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 21):
Pick your year.

Emirates Eyes Miami (by MAH4546 Oct 8 2007 in Civil Aviation)

Rumor: Emirates And Miami (by MAH4546 Dec 20 2009 in Civil Aviation)

I know there have been many more threads as well as discussion in other threads:

Here is 2011 speculation:
EK And MIA, A Matter Of When Not If? (by miaintl Oct 5 2011 in Civil Aviation)

In 2010 EK was supposidly hiring in the Miami area...
MIA And EK? EK Hiring People In The Miami Area (by miaintl Jul 15 2010 in Civil Aviation)

Quoting airbazar (Reply 23):
Why MIA instead of FLL?

Connections to South America.

Lightsaber

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: flymia
Posted 2013-06-24 06:27:42 and read 6778 times.

Quoting airbazar (Reply 23):
Why MIA instead of FLL? Is

You can ask every other major long haul airline besides for Norwegian why MIA instead of FLL. MIA is the international airport of choice. First thing that pops into my head are lounges and terminals. FLL has very little to no lounge space. This is especially true in the disaster of an international terminal of terminal 4. I am not even sure if terminal 4 can handle a 777. Also you have runway issues. FLL longest runway is only 9,000ft. That is not much for a fully loaded 777 going on MIA-DXB. After that you have South American and Caribbean Connections. Yes FLL has some of those with B6 but no where near the amount AA can offer. MIA is closer to where the majority of international tourist want to go too. MIA more able to handle a large international flight like this one and any problems it may have.

But we should wait and see for an official announcement. EK at MIA is not an if it a when. But I don't know if that when is in 1 year or 10 years.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: MD80Nut
Posted 2013-06-24 09:14:17 and read 5829 times.

Quoting flymia (Reply 25):

It isn't just AA at MIA, the great majority of Latin American airlines serve MIA over FLL I live about the same distance from both MIA and FLL. While I like FLL better, it's because it's smaller, MIA rules the roost when it comes to international service. A much larger airport means more international flights. Size does matter in this case. 

Cheers, Ralph

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: Miami
Posted 2013-06-24 09:22:55 and read 5891 times.

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 24):
However, the new A380s will free up some 777s for long haul

You see an EK A380 at MIA in the future??

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 24):
This could be the spoiler. While MIA is strong for O&D, QR could compete with an A380 vs. an EK 77W if AA only cooperates with QR for connections...

So your saying a QR A380 to MIA?

Quoting flymia (Reply 25):
Yes FLL has some of those with B6 but no where near the amount AA can offer. MIA is closer to where the majority of international tourist want to go too. MIA more able to handle a large international flight like this one and any problems it may have.

That's why AA chose MIA and not FLL   

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: airbazar
Posted 2013-06-24 09:24:51 and read 5867 times.

Quoting flymia (Reply 25):
You can ask every other major long haul airline besides for Norwegian why MIA instead of FLL. MIA is the international airport of choice. First thing that pops into my head are lounges and terminals. FLL has very little to no lounge space. This is especially true in the disaster of an international terminal of terminal 4. I am not even sure if terminal 4 can handle a 777. Also you have runway issues. FLL longest runway is only 9,000ft. That is not much for a fully loaded 777 going on MIA-DXB. After that you have South American and Caribbean Connections. Yes FLL has some of those with B6 but no where near the amount AA can offer. MIA is closer to where the majority of international tourist want to go too. MIA more able to handle a large international flight like this one and any problems it may have.

Thanks. Now that I think about it, EK can already connect to LatAm on B6 via JFK. 9,000ft could be a problem. They would need a 787 for that  

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: jfk777
Posted 2013-06-24 09:40:42 and read 5734 times.

Quoting airbazar (Reply 23):
Here's what I'm curious about: Why MIA instead of FLL? Is it for the prestige? Is the catchment area that different? I've been to the area a few times as a visitor and to me it makes zero difference what airport I fly in and out of. Even when going to the keys if FLL is cheaper, that's what I use. But the reason I ask is this: EK codeshares with B6 and B6 is building out a nice LatAm hub out of FLL. I do understand that EK can still interline with a variety of airlines at MIA, assuming the flight is timed for connections but that's just not the same as a codeshare, and we all know how big a hassle it is to connect at MIA from an international flight.

Miami has a 13,000 foot runway and FLL is only 9,000 feet, an issue for what would be a 14 hour flight from Florida to Dubai. Miami also has the infrastructure to handle 777, FLL doesn't.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: lightsaber
Posted 2013-06-24 10:07:39 and read 5544 times.

Quoting Miami (Reply 27):
You see an EK A380 at MIA in the future??

   EK A380 to IAH or LAX frees up a 77L/77W for MIA. That is what I see.

Quoting Miami (Reply 27):
So your saying a QR A380 to MIA?

   Not day 1, but eventually thanks to the connection opportunities.

Quoting airbazar (Reply 28):
EK can already connect to LatAm on B6 via JFK.

Very little... MIA will have far superior connections. But that will take other airlines working with EK... Airlines that aren't happy enough with MAD transfers...


Lightsaber

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: airbazar
Posted 2013-06-24 10:24:39 and read 5423 times.

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 30):
Very little... MIA will have far superior connections. But that will take other airlines working with EK... Airlines that aren't happy enough with MAD transfers...

Not on B6 it doesn't. That was the point of my inquiry. EK codeshares with B6 not with AA or any carrier currently serving LatAm from MIA. So if they really want to serve LatAm via MIA they will have to strike some sort of partnership(s).
And if these airlines are not happy with MAD transfers I can't imagine that their pax will be happier with a MIA transfer after waiting 3 hours to clear immingration in MIA  

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: lightsaber
Posted 2013-06-24 11:11:33 and read 5318 times.

Quoting airbazar (Reply 31):
EK codeshares with B6 not with AA or any carrier currently serving LatAm from MIA. So if they really want to serve LatAm via MIA they will have to strike some sort of partnership(s).

   Agreed. That will drive the business case.

Quoting airbazar (Reply 31):
And if these airlines are not happy with MAD transfers I can't imagine that their pax will be happier with a MIA transfer after waiting 3 hours to clear immingration in MIA

But there are far more destinations from MIA. EK wouldn't drop MAD.   

Lightsaber

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: Fastphilly
Posted 2013-06-24 11:18:13 and read 5297 times.

Are we forgetting Boston here? They have no direct Middle East service as of yet and has an O&D pool on par with MIA. I don't see ORD getting in the way with MIA getting a EK bird since the Chocago market is already saturated with flights to the region, but BOS is the wildcard city that may pull off the upset.

[Edited 2013-06-24 11:21:02]

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: Fastphilly
Posted 2013-06-24 11:33:59 and read 5248 times.

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 30):
EK A380 to IAH or LAX frees up a 77L/77W for MIA. That is what I see.

I'd add SFO in the mix. They operate a daily 777 out of here and it's rumoured to start an A380 on the DXB-SFO route.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: lightsaber
Posted 2013-06-24 12:20:32 and read 5137 times.

Quoting Fastphilly (Reply 34):
I'd add SFO in the mix. They operate a daily 777 out of here and it's rumoured to start an A380 on the DXB-SFO route.

I wouldn't be surprised if SFO saw the EK A388. I would be surprised if they do before both IAH and LAX...

Quoting Fastphilly (Reply 33):
Are we forgetting Boston here? They have no direct Middle East service as of yet and has an O&D pool on par with MIA.

Nope. Boston is just the most likely destination for EK in 2013 in North America. We've discussed BOS for EK as a side topic in multiple threads and pretty much consider it the most likely next EK destination. But this is a MIA thread, so we shall discuss MIA.

Lightsaber

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: Miami
Posted 2013-06-24 12:31:03 and read 5127 times.

Now, let's say QR does bring in the A380 to MIA. J17, which currently is the gate for LH, is the only gate that can handle an A380 at the moment. E8 is another, but is not prepared. And is currently the gate for BA. So if BA were to bring in the A380 it would be at gate E8. F17 is currently being used by VS, and H15 is being used for AF. 4 gates are capable of handling the A380. But only 1 is prepared.

Source: http://www.miami-airport.com/pdfdoc/a380-presentation.pdf

I did a little resource, MIA is planning to modernize the central terminal, finally! With that being said. 5 gates will be able to handle the A380.

Take a look: http://exmiami.org/index.php/miami-i...l-terminal-redevelopment-proposed/

Make sure you see the slideshow, it will show the plans.

As far as I know, this plan is still alive.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: Miami
Posted 2013-06-24 12:39:56 and read 5116 times.

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 35):
I would be surprised if they do before both IAH and LAX...

EK is sending the A380 to LAX in December.

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 35):
Nope. Boston is just the most likely destination for EK in 2013 in North America. We've discussed BOS for EK as a side topic in multiple threads and pretty much consider it the most likely next EK destination. But this is a MIA thread, so we shall discuss MIA.

BOS and MIA were both "leaked" that EK would launch both routes this year along with ARN which has already been announced

1 down, 2 to go.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: airbazar
Posted 2013-06-24 13:34:16 and read 4995 times.

Quoting Fastphilly (Reply 33):
Are we forgetting Boston here?

I don't think BOS and MIA are mutually exclusive but this is a thread about MIA so it's understandable that people are not talking about BOS   Nevertheless I think that BOS is probably a smaller and much more fragmented market in terms of market to the sub-continent and Middle East, and is already well covered by multiple 1 stop routes. And if QR and TK do start BOS next year one could argue that BOS would be saturated.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: LAXdude1023
Posted 2013-06-24 13:36:25 and read 4997 times.

Quoting airbazar (Reply 38):
I don't think BOS and MIA are mutually exclusive but this is a thread about MIA so it's understandable that people are not talking about BOS Nevertheless I think that BOS is probably a smaller and much more fragmented market in terms of market to the sub-continent and Middle East, and is already well covered by multiple 1 stop routes. And if QR and TK do start BOS next year one could argue that BOS would be saturated.

BOS-Middle East/Subcontinent is much larger than MIA-Middle East/Subcontinent.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: Miami
Posted 2013-06-24 18:47:07 and read 4699 times.

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 39):
BOS-Middle East/Subcontinent is much larger than MIA-Middle East/Subcontinent.

Source?

I would like to see some information stating that BOS- Middle East/Subcontinent is "much larger" than MIA-Middle East/Subcontinent

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: adamh8297
Posted 2013-06-24 19:27:52 and read 4645 times.

Quoting Miami (Reply 40):
http://www.brookings.edu/research/interactives/aviation

2011 MIDT Data

Divide all annual passenger numbers by 365 and then by 2 to get PDEW. "Less thans" are added in since the report only gives top 200 markets in each metro area of US.



DXB

BOS 13704
MIA 11961

DEL

BOS 36905
MIA 13971

BOM

BOS 39502
MIA 20221

HYD

BOS 14557
MIA Less than 5198

BLR

BOS 23281
MIA Less than 5198

MAA

BOS 15115
MIA Less than 5198

AUH

BOS 5279
MIA Less than 5198

BEY

BOS 26146
MIA 9841



TLV (never to be served by EK but makes for a good connection in IST with TK)

BOS 54702
MIA 81289

MNL is also much larger from MNL (48441 vs 11542). Highly likely that EK would grab some of this traffic however.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: ChrisNH
Posted 2013-06-24 19:32:28 and read 4631 times.

One thing EK has that some of the other carriers don't: airplanes. And because they have planes that can do Boston or Miami or any other city in this 'Rumor Carnival,' they can turn on a dime and simply launch service. Turkish was first to 'formally' (or semi-formally) announce Boston, but legally their government obligated them to say so. But they need to wait for a suitable plane, something that Emirates doesn't.

And what of Qatar? Could they trump Emirates to Boston or Miami? I suppose the first-to-market race is between those two.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: adamh8297
Posted 2013-06-24 19:51:49 and read 4601 times.

Should state MNL is much larger from MIA.

[Edited 2013-06-24 19:52:19]

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: Miami
Posted 2013-06-24 20:04:49 and read 4576 times.

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 41):

MIA gives better opportunities, and not just MIA. The entire city of Miami, South Florida, and the entire Florida.

I would love for EK to start connecting flights from MIA. But I don't think we will see that anytime soon. But MIA would be a better connecting city for EK than BOS.

I of course love my city. Miami is a great place. I'm not saying Boston isn't. Boston is a very nice place. Considering that I'm a Boston fan. I love Boston, but for tourist I personally think Miami is better.

Beautiful beaches, family-friendly attractions like Disneyworld, and the Latino culture and style of Miami make Florida, also known as the "Sunshine State," one of the most popular states in the U.S. for visitors.

Miami has: 39,500,000, visitors

Nearly 3 million of Miami’s visitors came from overseas.

The numbers never lie.   

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: adamh8297
Posted 2013-06-24 20:44:52 and read 4512 times.

Quoting Miami (Reply 44):
But MIA would be a better connecting city for EK than BOS.

You are right in terms of connections available but EK is having their global hub DXB to be the connecting city: MIA and BOS are just spokes and the extra connections whether it be an AA interline in MIA or a B6 codeshare out of BOS give a bit of a boost to the flight.


Quoting Miami (Reply 44):
I love Boston, but for tourist I personally think Miami is better.

The numbers I showed you pretty much show you that the businessman in Bangalore probably prefers (and sometimes needs) to go to BOS due to technology and biomedical industries etc.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: MaverickM11
Posted 2013-06-24 21:58:26 and read 4454 times.

Quoting Miami (Reply 44):
But MIA would be a better connecting city for EK than BOS.

BOS has the much larger local market; why would EK go to a city for better connections? It wants to keep as much revenue as it can on EK metal, not on any partner's connections.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: SIA747Megatop
Posted 2013-06-24 22:17:48 and read 4427 times.

Quoting Miami (Reply 44):
Nearly 3 million of Miami’s visitors came from overseas.

The numbers never lie.

Aren't many of these from the UK, Europe and South America? Places where people won't connect through DXB to get to?

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: Miami
Posted 2013-06-24 23:08:31 and read 4364 times.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 46):

I said: "I would love for EK to start connecting flights from MIA. But I don't think we will see that anytime soon"



Quoting SIA747Megatop (Reply 47):

Yes you are correct.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: CO58
Posted 2013-06-25 03:34:08 and read 4235 times.

Quoting Miami (Reply 37):
BOS and MIA were both "leaked" that EK would launch both routes this year along with ARN which has already been announced

Leaked by who again?

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: Miami
Posted 2013-06-25 09:46:40 and read 4037 times.

Quoting CO58 (Reply 49):

My source would have to be Chris Mangos (Marketing Division Director) he's the one that told me EK hinted to launch MIA in October or November.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: airbazar
Posted 2013-06-25 10:03:07 and read 4000 times.

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 39):
BOS-Middle East/Subcontinent is much larger than MIA-Middle East/Subcontinent.

Thank you. I would have never guessed that. Then again, I work for a company in Boston with a sizable presence in Bangalore and I myself have made the trip to BLR. Unfortunately my company won't even let me fly on LH so the odds that they'll add EK to their "preferred travel partners" are slim to none  

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: rotating14
Posted 2013-06-25 10:26:29 and read 3958 times.

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 41):
Quoting Miami (Reply 44):
MIA gives better opportunities, and not just MIA. The entire city of Miami, South Florida, and the entire Florida.

I would love for EK to start connecting flights from MIA. But I don't think we will see that anytime soon. But MIA would be a better connecting city for EK than BOS.

I of course love my city. Miami is a great place. I'm not saying Boston isn't. Boston is a very nice place. Considering that I'm a Boston fan. I love Boston, but for tourist I personally think Miami is better.

Beautiful beaches, family-friendly attractions like Disneyworld, and the Latino culture and style of Miami make Florida, also known as the "Sunshine State," one of the most popular states in the U.S. for visitors.

Miami has: 39,500,000, visitors

Nearly 3 million of Miami’s visitors came from overseas.

The numbers never lie.   

That's the proof you need that asked for. I'm trying and failing to see your scope of argument of why Miami should be the next destination for EK. Being a cheerleader for your hometown is great but much more is involved in planning a route a carrier like EK.

I think the bottom line is that EK will at some point in the future plan MIA as a route. Done. Moving on ....

Also, I'm curious to know, did you get permission from Mr. Mangos to use his name, title and private information on a public aviation forum like this?? You might want to look into that.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: Fastphilly
Posted 2013-06-25 10:38:42 and read 3934 times.

We can all say that eventually MIA will get EK but it may be next year or 10 years. MIA is further down the list for EK service than you think. EK is starting a second flight to CRK in the Manila area in addition to their MNL service beginning Oct 1st. MIA isn't just competing against other US cities, but the world as well.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: LAXdude1023
Posted 2013-06-25 11:28:12 and read 3876 times.

Quoting SIA747Megatop (Reply 47):
Quoting Miami (Reply 50):
My source would have to be Chris Mangos (Marketing Division Director) he's the one that told me EK hinted to launch MIA in October or November.

EK wont be in MIA before the end of 2013. They typically launch destinations 6 months after an announcement.

Quoting airbazar (Reply 51):
Thank you. I would have never guessed that. Then again, I work for a company in Boston with a sizable presence in Bangalore and I myself have made the trip to BLR. Unfortunately my company won't even let me fly on LH so the odds that they'll add EK to their "preferred travel partners" are slim to none

BOS-Subcontinent is actually a very large market. Its roughly the same size as DFW and IAH-Subcontinent and larger than SEA, ATL, and MIA-Subcontinent by a good margin.

MIA-Subcontinent actually isnt that large.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: Miami
Posted 2013-06-25 11:31:24 and read 3873 times.

Quoting rotating14 (Reply 52):
I think the bottom line is that EK will at some point in the future plan MIA as a route. Done. Moving on ....

Yes please, I'm getting annoyed. Epically with the negative comments.

Quoting rotating14 (Reply 52):
Being a cheerleader for your hometown is great

I'm not a "cheerleader" I'm a fan. HUGE difference.

Quoting Fastphilly (Reply 53):

I'm sorry, I'm confused with that last sentence. My apology.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: Miami
Posted 2013-06-25 11:34:57 and read 3864 times.

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 54):
EK wont be in MIA before the end of 2013. They typically launch destinations 6 months after an announcement.

OK, OK we get it.

Can't we just agree on the fact that sooner or later EK will launch all the rumored routes. There, everyone is happy. End of discussion.   

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: AeroWesty
Posted 2013-06-25 11:36:13 and read 3864 times.

Quoting Miami (Reply 55):
Yes please, I'm getting annoyed. Epically with the negative comments.

What were you expecting? EK to MIA has been rumored ad nauseum since at least 2007. We're halfway through 2013. Everything which could possibly be said about it has already been said. People are tired of it being a topic.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: Fastphilly
Posted 2013-06-25 11:53:38 and read 3817 times.

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 57):
What were you expecting? EK to MIA has been rumored ad nauseum since at least 2007. We're halfway through 2013. Everything which could possibly be said about it has already been said. People are tired of it being a topic.

I think JL ,CX or any Asian carrier regarding MIA flights is runner up for ad nauseum. Miami fans want International diversity like the other big five US markets. Gotta know your place in US CSA hierochy MIA
   

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: Miami
Posted 2013-06-25 12:19:02 and read 3790 times.

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 57):
ad nauseum
Quoting Fastphilly (Reply 58):
ad nauseum

Well, here in Miami. People want more international flights. We want nonstop. Not a lot of people like 1 stop flights. It would be nice for a middle east and/or Asia-Pacific carrier to come in to MIA.

At least MIA keeps trying to get more foreign carriers to serve MIA.

Gotta give them respect, I feel bad that, heck we should all feel bad that MIA doesn't have the airlines that they may deserve depending on the route.

quote=AeroWesty,reply=57]People are tired of it being a topic.[/quote]

Well if sites keep rumoring EK to MIA, it's still going to go on and on until it has been served.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: LAXdude1023
Posted 2013-06-25 12:27:52 and read 3773 times.

Quoting Miami (Reply 59):
Gotta give them respect, I feel bad that, heck we should all feel bad that MIA doesn't have the airlines that they may deserve depending on the route.

What kind of garbage is this? Every city except NYC and LA thinks they deserve more than they get. A Gulf carrier nor an Asian carrier hasnt rushed into MIA because frankly, the markets are not big. If they were larger, MIA would be served by both by now. Thats not to say that MIA wont have a Gulf or an Asian carrier, but to be frank, a tie up with AA will be needed to insure long term success of either.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: miaintl
Posted 2013-06-25 13:06:34 and read 3704 times.

Not to hijack the thread, but is not MIA served to Asia primarily thru SVO and SU? How is the SU flight perfroming? Why are they still at only 2x weekly? I think MIA should feel privileged that it is one of only 3 US airports with nonstop service to Russia on SU. Does anyone know what the annual MIA-MOW pdew is?

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: Miami
Posted 2013-06-25 13:33:10 and read 3650 times.

Quoting miaintl (Reply 61):

Don't forget VKO operated by UN.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: rotating14
Posted 2013-06-25 13:48:39 and read 3640 times.

Quoting Miami (Reply 59):
Well, here in Miami. People want more international flights. We want nonstop. Not a lot of people like 1 stop flights. It would be nice for a middle east and/or Asia-Pacific carrier to come in to MIA.

Dude, people from Miami aren't that different from those in say DC or LA or NYC or Iceland. Most mortals would opt for a non stop than connect, it's universal. Also who is "we"? Who are you representing? All of Miami and its countless nationalities? Just as LAXdude1023 has just pointed out, the market is not that big to warrant the investment of a Middle Eastern Carrier or Asian carrier to cater to folks who are just here for a week or 2 weeks at a time.

Figure AA, the largest carrier to LATAM has over 40 destinations, DL which is the 2nd largest has just over 30. They have that market under control, for their fair share at least, and an outsider like EK or anybody else would need to partner with them rather than waste $$$$ in doing it alone.

Quoting Miami (Reply 59):
Gotta give them respect, I feel bad that, heck we should all feel bad that MIA doesn't have the airlines that they may deserve depending on the route.

Explain to me to me why you think we all should feel bad for MIA. People who need to fly wherever still do so, just by other means. People here in Alaska hate that just to get out of the state is 3 hours (to SEA) but hey, it is what it is. AS would slaughter WN if they tried to compete on the ANC-SEA route and its only a 3 hour flight and that's domestic. Everything does not revolve around MIA, AA and some sap that you probably got in trouble because of your lack of secrecy.

Mods, lets but this thread to bed. Zzzzzzzz

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: miaintl
Posted 2013-06-25 13:54:34 and read 3612 times.

Does anyone know if Boston is a bigger market to Russia than MIA?

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: Miami
Posted 2013-06-25 14:02:50 and read 3613 times.

Quoting rotating14 (Reply 63):

I don't need to explain. You can search that up for yourself.

Everyone has there own opinion, that's what makes life great. MIA is MIA like it or not, you can't change it. IF MIA does get EK it would be a shocker for most people. But again that's life. Life moves on with or without EK serving MIA.

If the markets aren't good enough, then to bad. Sorry MIA. Move on..   

Have a great day.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: Miami
Posted 2013-06-25 14:06:43 and read 3605 times.

Quoting miaintl (Reply 64):

BOS doesn't have any current carrier flying into Russia at the moment, so I wouldn't think it has a bigger market.

Not quite sure.   

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: lightsaber
Posted 2013-06-25 14:13:45 and read 3605 times.

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 42):
One thing EK has that some of the other carriers don't: airplanes.

They're short of aircraft today.   
So EK must prioritize new routes. A classy problem to have...

Quoting miaintl (Reply 61):
Not to hijack the thread, but is not MIA served to Asia primarily thru SVO and SU?

Huh? More like connections through LHR, FRA, and AMS. Probably CDG too.

Lightsaber

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: IrishAyes
Posted 2013-06-25 14:20:35 and read 3570 times.

Quoting Fastphilly (Reply 53):

We can all say that eventually MIA will get EK but it may be next year or 10 years. MIA is further down the list for EK service than you think. EK is starting a second flight to CRK in the Manila area in addition to their MNL service beginning Oct 1st. MIA isn't just competing against other US cities, but the world as well.

   excellent point. it really has to do with where ek can deploy its resources quickly and profitably and indeed, my guess would be that ek wants to add more capacity to MNL before 5J and PR get their hands in.

Quoting Miami (Reply 65):
Life moves on with or without EK serving MIA.

Great, then you answered your own question. This thread, along with all other MIA-related threads that pop up 4x monthly now, need to be put to rest and stay that way for a long, long time.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: miaintl
Posted 2013-06-25 15:22:28 and read 3494 times.

So far nobody has interacted with my SU question. I am really interested to see what the MIA-MOW pdew is.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: slcdeltarumd11
Posted 2013-06-25 15:28:09 and read 3485 times.

Quoting Miami (Reply 44):
and the Latino culture and style of Miami

oh "Miami" im pretty sure its the beaches and theme parks that bring in the huge tourist numbers LOL but nice try   El Centro CA has tons of latino culture and style also LOL

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: LAXdude1023
Posted 2013-06-25 15:30:51 and read 3496 times.

Quoting miaintl (Reply 69):
So far nobody has interacted with my SU question. I am really interested to see what the MIA-MOW pdew is.

MIA-MOW: 63 PDEW
BOS-MOW: 26 PDEW

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: adamh8297
Posted 2013-06-25 15:54:40 and read 3466 times.

Quoting Miami (Reply 59):
Well, here in Miami. People want more international flights. We want nonstop. Not a lot of people like 1 stop flights. It would be nice for a middle east and/or Asia-Pacific carrier to come in to MIA.

Do you realize that the main benefit of a DXB flight is turning more 2-stop options into 1-stop options for folks in MIA/FLL area?

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: Mah4546
Posted 2013-06-25 16:07:33 and read 3480 times.

Miami stimulates with amazing ease. One of few cities that stimulates better is Dubai.

Connect Miami and Dubai, and it will be a 75 PDEW market in three years, with absolute ease.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: flymia
Posted 2013-06-25 17:50:55 and read 3362 times.

Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 70):
oh "Miami" im pretty sure its the beaches and theme parks

Been living here for some time. Where are the theme parks? 
Quoting Miami (Reply 65):
IF MIA does get EK it would be a shocker for most people

I don't think anyone would be shocked. EK will have plenty of planes free to try out markets. MIA is one next large metros missing for EK. When it happens I have no clue but if it does happen which I think it will at some point it wont be a shock. I don't think many would be shocked.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: miaintl
Posted 2013-06-25 18:16:37 and read 3312 times.

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 71):

Is MIA the 3rd largest market to MOW after NYC and LA?

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: mcogator
Posted 2013-06-25 18:39:29 and read 3288 times.

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 71):

MIA-MOW: 63 PDEW

This doesn't include the FLL market, correct? Most Russians live in the Hollywood/Hallandale/Sunny Isles/Aventura area of South Florida, which is much closer to FLL.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: Fastphilly
Posted 2013-06-25 18:42:26 and read 3348 times.

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 60):
Every city except NYC and LA thinks they deserve more than they get.

Every city except NYC. LA isn't the end all be all of foreign flags. Compared to JFK, LAX has a long way to go getting the amount of JFK foreign tails.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: Mah4546
Posted 2013-06-25 18:50:45 and read 3354 times.

Quoting mcogator (Reply 76):
This doesn't include the FLL market, correct? Most Russians live in the Hollywood/Hallandale/Sunny Isles/Aventura area of South Florida, which is much closer to FLL.

It includes FLL. FLL generates very trans-Atlantic PDEW outside of Frankfurt (which is served non-stop) and Tel Aviv.

Quoting miaintl (Reply 75):
Is MIA the 3rd largest market to MOW after NYC and LA?

Yes.

[Edited 2013-06-25 18:51:30]

[Edited 2013-06-25 18:51:43]

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: 777way
Posted 2013-06-26 03:39:16 and read 3036 times.

Has any east Asian carrier ever operated charters to Florida?

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: Miami
Posted 2013-06-26 10:52:58 and read 2849 times.

Quoting 777way (Reply 79):

Not quite sure, but I know DL flew MIA-PVG on a 777-200LR when the NBA's Miami Heat had a game to play in China.

If that counts..  

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: jfk777
Posted 2013-06-26 11:07:09 and read 2827 times.

Quoting mcogator (Reply 76):
MIA-MOW: 63 PDEW
This doesn't include the FLL market, correct? Most Russians live in the Hollywood/Hallandale/Sunny Isles/Aventura area of South Florida, which is much closer to FLL.

But do Aeroflot and Transaero fly to the 9,000 feet runway airport ? Hell no they fly to MIA because Moscow is Far away.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: lightsaber
Posted 2013-06-26 11:20:55 and read 2795 times.

Quoting Fastphilly (Reply 77):
LA isn't the end all be all of foreign flags. Compared to JFK, LAX has a long way to go getting the amount of JFK foreign tails.

Perhaps because US carriers do so well at LAX.  

Lightsaber

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: OB1504
Posted 2013-06-26 12:09:24 and read 2729 times.

Quoting Miami (Reply 36):
Now, let's say QR does bring in the A380 to MIA. J17, which currently is the gate for LH, is the only gate that can handle an A380 at the moment. E8 is another, but is not prepared. And is currently the gate for BA. So if BA were to bring in the A380 it would be at gate E8. F17 is currently being used by VS, and H15 is being used for AF. 4 gates are capable of handling the A380. But only 1 is prepared.

Virgin Atlantic uses Gate F19 at MIA. Air France generally uses Gate H8, as Gate H15 cannot handle international arrivals (no sterile circulation access) and is presently used by Delta Air Lines along with the entire western portion of Concourse H. I think F17 would be the most likely gate used by an Emirates A380 service, and E8 for a Qatar A380 service as they will soon be joining oneworld and it would make sense for all of the oneworld carriers to be consolidated in one concourse.

Of course, this is all moot as MIA is entirely common-use and the aviation department has the freedom to rearrange gate assignments as necessary.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: Miami
Posted 2013-06-26 13:08:40 and read 2657 times.

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 83):
I think F17 would be the most likely gate used by an Emirates A380 service, and E8 for a Qatar A380 service as they will soon be joining oneworld and it would make sense for all of the oneworld carriers to be consolidated in one concourse.

Now, lets say AF brings in the A380, the will obliviously use their current gate H8. And I see the BA bring in the A380 to MIA and possibly VS as well.

If EK and QR does bring in the A380. They should inform MIA at least a year while in consideration.

MIA has planned to redevelop the central terminal, which with the new central terminal. 5 gates will be able to handle the A380.

Please look at this: http://exmiami.org/index.php/miami-i...l-terminal-redevelopment-proposed/
(There is a slideshow)

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: OB1504
Posted 2013-06-26 15:36:07 and read 2537 times.

Quoting Miami (Reply 84):
Now, lets say AF brings in the A380, the will obliviously use their current gate H8. And I see the BA bring in the A380 to MIA and possibly VS as well.

If EK and QR does bring in the A380. They should inform MIA at least a year while in consideration.

MIA has planned to redevelop the central terminal, which with the new central terminal. 5 gates will be able to handle the A380.

Please look at this: http://exmiami.org/index.php/miami-i...l-terminal-redevelopment-proposed/
(There is a slideshow)

H15 will be rebuilt to add access to the sterile circulation corridor and would become Air France's new gate. It will undoubtedly close H17 while in use, but I don't know if it will also affect neighboring H11. I believe the aviation department has requested that airlines planning on flying the A380 into MIA provide sufficient advance notice in order to ensure gate availability.

Has the Central Terminal redesign officially been approved? I agree that Concourse E in particular is an embarrassment, but I'm starting to think that I'll die before I ever see MIA without any construction cranes.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: Miami
Posted 2013-06-26 15:44:46 and read 2538 times.

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 85):

MIA will be extending the leases of retailers currently in the central terminal for another two years, until January 2015.

MIA expects to have completed plans for the Central Terminal redevelopment by that time.

Also, the terminal will be connected via underground walkway (like the AA terminal at JFK), with 33 gates of which 27 are widebody capable and 5 A380 capable.

(Better images of the planned project) http://www.scribd.com/doc/112568201/Central-Terminal

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: 777way
Posted 2013-06-26 17:11:10 and read 2466 times.

Quoting Miami (Reply 80):

no it dosent, kind of says something about Asia-MIA links, I would've imagined JL, KE doing charters there for it being an interesting holiday destination, so how do you expect year round service.

JL have even done Havana.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: ER757
Posted 2013-06-27 06:30:12 and read 2240 times.

My contacts at EK say BOS is definite, MIA and ORD not anytime soon. They are usually correct when knowing future destinations so I'll believe them

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: mcogator
Posted 2013-06-27 07:08:36 and read 2190 times.

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 81):
But do Aeroflot and Transaero fly to the 9,000 feet runway airport ? Hell no they fly to MIA because Moscow is Far away.

My in-laws usually fly FLL-JFK-SVO on DL, as it's usually priced the best(to SVO) and for FF miles. I was asking if that was included in the MIA-MOS PDEW. I have heard from someone else that Moscow is far away...

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: adamh8297
Posted 2013-06-27 08:17:30 and read 2127 times.

Quoting ER757 (Reply 88):

My contacts at EK say BOS is definite, MIA and ORD not anytime soon. They are usually correct when knowing future destinations so I'll believe them

any hint of start date? 1/1/14?

Could DXB runway construction put a hamper on expansion plans?

Quoting mcogator (Reply 89):
I was asking if that was included in the MIA-MOS PDEW.

Yes it is MIDT data includes MIA and FLL as one metro area

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: ER757
Posted 2013-06-27 08:21:48 and read 2115 times.

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 90):
any hint of start date? 1/1/14?

No, unfortunately - they were being (deliberatley) vague on that point. I think they can only say so much without violaing any internal NDA's. And even if they did advise a start date, I certainly couldn't post it here until it was publically announced. I need to keep my job at least til my mortgage is paid off  

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: ChrisNH
Posted 2013-06-27 08:39:48 and read 2085 times.

The kind of fortress EK is building in Dubai should have people wondering the SEQUENCE of these new cities, not whether one will or won't be served.

At Boston during the international push each day, there's not a whole lot of 'room at the inn' with respect to available Gates. EK won't be badgered into having to take an off-timed slot, or having their 777 towed off to Siberia while it awaits its journey home. They will say to Massport, "I want my plane landing at this time, I want it to push out at that time, and you're not gonna tow it anywhere in between, got it?"

To which Massport will bow and say, 'Yes Massah."

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: airbazar
Posted 2013-06-27 08:56:04 and read 2057 times.

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 92):
At Boston during the international push each day, there's not a whole lot of 'room at the inn' with respect to available Gates. EK won't be badgered into having to take an off-timed slot, or having their 777 towed off to Siberia while it awaits its journey home.

That will not be an issue at BOS as DXB is far more constrained than BOS is. EK needs to find a slot at their own home airport before they can decide what schedule they will use for BOS. Nevertheless, routes to the ME and Asia don't ususally conflict with TATL schedules. Just look at EK's own operation at JFK for an idea of what schedule they will use at BOS. Both of their flights operate outside the TATL window.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: adamh8297
Posted 2013-06-27 09:24:06 and read 2000 times.

Quoting airbazar (Reply 93):
That will not be an issue at BOS as DXB is far more constrained than BOS is. EK needs to find a slot at their own home airport before they can decide what schedule they will use for BOS. Nevertheless, routes to the ME and Asia don't ususally conflict with TATL schedules. Just look at EK's own operation at JFK for an idea of what schedule they will use at BOS. Both of their flights operate outside the TATL window.

I'm guessing it would be mid-morning BOS departure similar to IAD's daily flight.

Quoting ER757 (Reply 91):
No, unfortunately - they were being (deliberatley) vague on that point. I think they can only say so much without violaing any internal NDA's. And even if they did advise a start date, I certainly couldn't post it here until it was publically announced. I need to keep my job at least til my mortgage is paid off  

Thank you that's completely understandable!

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: airbazar
Posted 2013-06-27 10:11:04 and read 1952 times.

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 94):
I'm guessing it would be mid-morning BOS departure similar to IAD's daily flight.

Yup. Just like their JFK early flight and similar to JL's NRT flight. Early morning arrival and mid-day departure. Terminal E at BOS is completely empty at that time.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: miaintl
Posted 2013-06-27 10:44:12 and read 1914 times.

Does anyone here see SU eventually going daily to MIA? I think the demand is there, plus SVO is great for connections to the Far East and India.

Topic: RE: Rumor: EK To Launch MIA
Username: lightsaber
Posted 2013-06-27 23:16:04 and read 1734 times.

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 90):
Could DXB runway construction put a hamper on expansion plans?

   However, for EK, it ironically could allow them to keep utilizing their aircraft on a higher yield route for aircraft flying to/from the Americas rarely see DXB.   

But how/why with fewer connections? The runway closure will be 'interesting to observe.'

Lightsaber


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