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Topic: Deserted Spanish Airport Used In Top Gear...
Username: gilesdavies
Posted 2013-07-14 13:50:54 and read 68675 times.

I was just watching Top Gear this evening on BBC 2 here in the UK and they tested the maximum speed on several "budget" super cars...

They turned up at an absolutely deserted airport, that looked like it had never been used and was recently built.

Out of curiosity, does anyone know where this airport was in Spain and what its history is?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0371dc3

Topic: RE: Deserted Spanish Airport Used In Top Gear...
Username: AeroWesty
Posted 2013-07-14 13:54:14 and read 68692 times.

Probably this:

Ciudad Real-Spain's Ghost Airport (by okAY Jul 11 2012 in Civil Aviation)

Topic: RE: Deserted Spanish Airport Used In Top Gear...
Username: idealstandard
Posted 2013-07-15 02:32:48 and read 61673 times.

Yeah It's Ciudad Real. Amazing really.

Topic: RE: Deserted Spanish Airport Used In Top Gear...
Username: asctty
Posted 2013-07-15 03:34:19 and read 60634 times.

There are two other ghost airports in Spain at the moment. One is in Corvera, Murcia where the airport has been built but there is no agreement when, if ever it will open:
http://www.murciatoday.com/wrangling...era-airport-continues_17765-a.html

The other is in Castellon, Valencia where it appears that the runway is not fit for purpose:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castell...3%B3n%E2%80%93Costa_Azahar_Airport

Both airports have significant amounts of public money thrown at them which is causing much concern with the locals.

Castellon was also used for high speed car testing this year which didn't impress many people:
http://www.murciatoday.com/3000%E2%8...tellon-airport-runway_14737-a.html

Topic: RE: Deserted Spanish Airport Used In Top Gear...
Username: r2rho
Posted 2013-07-15 05:52:02 and read 58364 times.

Well, it's good to see that they have found a use for these airports, even if it wasn't what they were originally intended for...

Quoting asctty (Reply 3):
There are two other ghost airports in Spain at the moment.

Don't forget also Huesca, which though still officially operating AFAIK is basically dead, and I think Lerida still barely runs on a handful of flights.

These ghost airports are all the product of Spain's out-of-control regions, run by "caciques" who built them as personal prestige projects, financed by the now-failed regional savings banks and often linked to some big real-estate development that didn't materialize. I feel no pity for them.

It is mainly a political problem - Spain urgently needs a consitutional reform to limit the power of its regions, who can build useless airports and highways almost at will without control from the central government.

Topic: RE: Deserted Spanish Airport Used In Top Gear...
Username: RussianJet
Posted 2013-07-15 05:57:53 and read 58238 times.

It's an astonishing situation really. You'd have to be really, really sure of things to bother building an airport. It's not like an empty house for example, you can just sell it on when absolutely nobody is using it.

Topic: RE: Deserted Spanish Airport Used In Top Gear...
Username: PlymSpotter
Posted 2013-07-15 06:10:35 and read 57937 times.

Quoting asctty (Reply 3):
The other is in Castellon, Valencia where it appears that the runway is not fit for purpose:

To my knowledge there isn't a problem with the runway, just a misunderstanding probably lost in translation. It has a 45m wide runway with shoulders taking the width up to 60m - fully compliant with ICAO regulations. That said, it was never intended for aircraft to turn around and backtrack on the runway; a full length parallel taxiway with multiple turnoffs was planned. This was shortened, shortened again, then finally removed completely due to cost, leaving access at only one end of the runway. Larger aircraft would therefore have to roll out to the end of the runway before turning in the circle and backtracking - hardly a major inconvenience or issue.

That's if it ever opens...


Dan  

Topic: RE: Deserted Spanish Airport Used In Top Gear...
Username: asctty
Posted 2013-07-15 07:01:40 and read 57047 times.

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 6):

To my knowledge there isn't a problem with the runway, just a misunderstanding probably lost in translation. It has a 45m wide runway with shoulders taking the width up to 60m - fully compliant with ICAO regulations. That said, it was never intended for aircraft to turn around and backtrack on the runway; a full length parallel taxiway with multiple turnoffs was planned. This was shortened, shortened again, then finally removed completely due to cost, leaving access at only one end of the runway. Larger aircraft would therefore have to roll out to the end of the runway before turning in the circle and backtracking - hardly a major inconvenience or issue.

That's if it ever opens..

Dan, I recall an article last year suggesting that the runway was not constructed properly to support the weight of any commercial passenger jet?

Sorry, I can't find the link at the moment.

Topic: RE: Deserted Spanish Airport Used In Top Gear...
Username: PlymSpotter
Posted 2013-07-15 07:11:32 and read 56839 times.

Quoting asctty (Reply 7):
Dan, I recall an article last year suggesting that the runway was not constructed properly to support the weight of any commercial passenger jet?

Sorry, I can't find the link at the moment.

Interesting, strength isn't as issue I have heard of before. During construction it would be difficult to hide a non compliant design, but it would be harder to detect if the materials/processes were substandard.


Dan  

Topic: RE: Deserted Spanish Airport Used In Top Gear...
Username: OllieJolly
Posted 2013-07-15 10:55:26 and read 53482 times.

Am I the only person that, given insane amounts of money, would purchase this airport just for the purpose of using the empty terminal building as a huge hangar for model aircraft? Like make a HUGE Gemini Jets airport map across the floor, and fill it with countless passenger jets, general aviation and helicopters?

Yeah... probably just me...

Topic: RE: Deserted Spanish Airport Used In Top Gear...
Username: PlymSpotter
Posted 2013-07-15 12:28:33 and read 51089 times.

Quoting OllieJolly (Reply 9):

Am I the only person that, given insane amounts of money, would purchase this airport just for the purpose of using the empty terminal building as a huge hangar for model aircraft? Like make a HUGE Gemini Jets airport map across the floor, and fill it with countless passenger jets, general aviation and helicopters?

If you have huge amounts of money, why use models?


Dan  


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