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Topic: TUL Offering Incentives For New Service
Username: CIDFlyer
Posted 2013-07-21 10:47:00 and read 5352 times.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/article.as...ntives/20130711_54_E1_ULNSrn935925

looks like maybe they are trying to attract Allegiant as they state they are even looking for non daily service. With the announcement of AUS by G4 wouldnt surprise me to see G4 try TUL.

Topic: RE: TUL Offering Incentives For New Service
Username: mhkansan
Posted 2013-07-21 11:41:11 and read 5183 times.

I'd really like to see a daily MIA-TUL on AA.

Topic: RE: TUL Offering Incentives For New Service
Username: Mah4546
Posted 2013-07-21 11:43:50 and read 5175 times.

Quoting mhkansan (Reply 1):

I'd really like to see a daily MIA-TUL on AA.


Doubt we will see that. At least it's year-round, now.

I think we will see AA add a daily LAX flight, though.

Topic: RE: TUL Offering Incentives For New Service
Username: awacsooner
Posted 2013-07-21 11:57:35 and read 5119 times.

Quoting mhkansan (Reply 1):
I'd really like to see a daily MIA-TUL on AA.

If it weren't for the mx base, they wouldn't even have it...

TUL is trying to set itself up like OKC (there's always been a competition between the two...one side has a rather large inferiority complex), but the numbers just aren't there yet. If the Keystone pipeline goes through and they build that hub at Cushing, then maybe there'll be a bit more influx. But until then, TUL won't get to the levels of n/s service that OKC has.

Topic: RE: TUL Offering Incentives For New Service
Username: Mah4546
Posted 2013-07-21 12:01:17 and read 5103 times.

Quoting awacsooner (Reply 3):
If it weren't for the mx base, they wouldn't even have it...

Except they do. The maintenance rotation is no longer needed, but AA has kept the flight. It was to rotate planes for cabin reconfiguration.

Topic: RE: TUL Offering Incentives For New Service
Username: catdaddy63
Posted 2013-07-21 13:33:56 and read 4922 times.

I think TUL will certainly see CLT and possibly PHX after the US/AA merger for east/west coast connections. WN service is a big question mark for me once the Wright Amendment is totally repealed late in 2014, I am expecting reductions once they announce schedules.

Topic: RE: TUL Offering Incentives For New Service
Username: b777erj145
Posted 2013-07-21 14:12:41 and read 4854 times.

Yeah saw that news few days back. It would be great to have few new service there. I hope they get routes which will be different from what OKC will get, so this way ppl can drive down to TUL and avail more routes.

Topic: RE: TUL Offering Incentives For New Service
Username: CIDFlyer
Posted 2013-07-21 15:34:15 and read 4732 times.

Quoting catdaddy63 (Reply 5):
I think TUL will certainly see CLT and possibly PHX after the US/AA merger for east/west coast connections. WN service is a big question mark for me once the Wright Amendment is totally repealed late in 2014, I am expecting reductions once they announce schedules.


I could see CLT for sure...PHX possibly but will have to see how AA uses that hub or pares it down a little since most of its flows can be duplicated by DFW.

Topic: RE: TUL Offering Incentives For New Service
Username: kann123air
Posted 2013-07-21 17:50:04 and read 4220 times.

Quoting CIDFlyer (Reply 7):
I could see CLT for sure

I think if nearby XNA can have it, TUL can sustain it too.

Topic: RE: TUL Offering Incentives For New Service
Username: 9w748capt
Posted 2013-07-21 19:19:07 and read 3886 times.

Quoting kann123air (Reply 8):

Not necessarily - don't forget XNA service is primarily driven by walmart. So even though TUL may have a larger population, walmart is the prime driver of business traffic (probably most traffic) at XNA.

Topic: RE: TUL Offering Incentives For New Service
Username: southwest737500
Posted 2013-07-21 19:22:32 and read 3867 times.

TUL needs to be linked up with CLT! Ugh connecting through either ORD,DFW,ATL is a headache... CLT is such an ease..maybe 2 CRJ7 flights would be a good start

Topic: RE: TUL Offering Incentives For New Service
Username: ouboy79
Posted 2013-07-21 19:57:24 and read 3729 times.

We'll probably see TUL and OKC linked into CLT pretty quickly after the merger. Not sure what else they are going to be able to get in there right now outside of maybe G4. The good thing going for them there is OKC has little going on right now when it comes to actively pursuing new service. They are in a very strong "maintain" pattern right now but will support whatever new an airline wants to throw at them. Like WN/FL to ATL in exchange for MCI.

Quoting awacsooner (Reply 3):
If the Keystone pipeline goes through and they build that hub at Cushing, then maybe there'll be a bit more influx. But until then, TUL won't get to the levels of n/s service that OKC has.

That's tough to say how much it will impact. Much of the upgrades are already in at Cushing with the pipeline from there south to Texas already complete. I think it will help though. Of course if OKC keeps growing like it is (rumors of two more towers coming soon for downtown), then it'll be tough for airlines to pick TUL over OKC. Which sucks that it has to be like that right now.

Topic: RE: TUL Offering Incentives For New Service
Username: PHX787
Posted 2013-07-22 00:08:08 and read 3142 times.

I really don't see why airports are trying to attract G4 service so viciously....they are a TRAVEL SERVICE, not much of an airline, and any one that I've talked to who has flown them said they'll never fly them again. These guys should be kissing F9's tail for more service

Topic: RE: TUL Offering Incentives For New Service
Username: awacsooner
Posted 2013-07-22 02:23:31 and read 2969 times.

Quoting catdaddy63 (Reply 5):
I think TUL will certainly see CLT and possibly PHX after the US/AA merger
Quoting CIDFlyer (Reply 7):

I could see CLT for sure...PHX possibly but will have to see how AA uses that hub or pares it down a little since most of its flows can be duplicated by DFW.

OKC will get CLT (and PHX back) before TUL. But yah, it's probably coming.

Topic: RE: TUL Offering Incentives For New Service
Username: HiFlyerAS
Posted 2013-07-22 07:35:12 and read 2301 times.

I know that AS has considered starting service to TOL. I think there would be room for both LAX-MEX and LAX-TOL for them and I would love to see AS dip their toe into TOL to see how it performs. There's easy freeway access for the millions that live in the southern part of D.F. and it is a relatively easy drive compared to MEX.

Topic: RE: TUL Offering Incentives For New Service
Username: ouboy79
Posted 2013-07-22 07:53:06 and read 2222 times.

Quoting HiFlyerAS (Reply 14):

I know that AS has considered starting service to TOL. I think there would be room for both LAX-MEX and LAX-TOL for them and I would love to see AS dip their toe into TOL to see how it performs. There's easy freeway access for the millions that live in the southern part of D.F. and it is a relatively easy drive compared to MEX.

I think you got the wrong state and airport.  
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 12):

I really don't see why airports are trying to attract G4 service so viciously....they are a TRAVEL SERVICE, not much of an airline, and any one that I've talked to who has flown them said they'll never fly them again. These guys should be kissing F9's tail for more service

Yet they continue to keep filling their planes almost to capacity. It is like people that complain about Spirit but still end up going back.

Topic: RE: TUL Offering Incentives For New Service
Username: HiFlyerAS
Posted 2013-07-22 09:23:11 and read 1963 times.

Quoting ouboy79 (Reply 15):
Quoting HiFlyerAS (Reply 14):
I know that AS has considered starting service to TOL. I think there would be room for both LAX-MEX and LAX-TOL for them and I would love to see AS dip their toe into TOL to see how it performs. There's easy freeway access for the millions that live in the southern part of D.F. and it is a relatively easy drive compared to MEX.

I think you got the wrong state and airport.


OMG I'm so embarrassed! LOL Carry on, please!!

Topic: RE: TUL Offering Incentives For New Service
Username: PHX787
Posted 2013-07-22 18:35:13 and read 1570 times.

Quoting ouboy79 (Reply 15):
Yet they continue to keep filling their planes almost to capacity. It is like people that complain about Spirit but still end up going back.

Yeah that's what has my head scratching about G4. For the more educated flying public or for business travelers that I associate with, they'd never set foot in G4, but somehow G4 seems to attract everyone else.

Topic: RE: TUL Offering Incentives For New Service
Username: southwest737500
Posted 2013-07-22 18:45:04 and read 1557 times.

TUL should try to go after NK.

Topic: RE: TUL Offering Incentives For New Service
Username: ouboy79
Posted 2013-07-22 19:30:50 and read 1526 times.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 17):
Yeah that's what has my head scratching about G4. For the more educated flying public or for business travelers that I associate with, they'd never set foot in G4, but somehow G4 seems to attract everyone else.

So the educated and business folks avoid G4...what does that make everyone else? Tip - put the shovel down before you get too deep.  

Topic: RE: TUL Offering Incentives For New Service
Username: cactus739
Posted 2013-07-22 19:52:43 and read 1503 times.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 17):

I'm educated and I've flown G4 and would do so again if their routes of of XNA matched where I wanted to go.

Quoting ouboy79 (Reply 19):
Tip - put the shovel down before you get too deep.  

Yeah... you're coming off much worse than you normally do.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 12):

I really don't see why airports are trying to attract G4 service so viciously....they are a TRAVEL SERVICE, not much of an airline,

Aren't they making money hand over fist as their travel service that runs an airline? Wouldn't airports love to have Allegiant passengers fly out of their airport regardless if its a travel service or an airline? Passengers flying out make the airport money. Besides... by your logic your beloved Phoenix/Mesa Gateway shouldn't care if Allegiant comes or goes when really that airport needs Allegiant to stay and grow since Frontier flopped and Spirit is still incredibly minimal there.

Topic: RE: TUL Offering Incentives For New Service
Username: ouboy79
Posted 2013-07-22 20:13:13 and read 1481 times.

Quoting cactus739 (Reply 20):
Aren't they making money hand over fist as their travel service that runs an airline? Wouldn't airports love to have Allegiant passengers fly out of their airport regardless if its a travel service or an airline? Passengers flying out make the airport money. Besides... by your logic your beloved Phoenix/Mesa Gateway shouldn't care if Allegiant comes or goes when really that airport needs Allegiant to stay and grow since Frontier flopped and Spirit is still incredibly minimal there.

Exactly. G4 has done a lot for smaller airports that have struggled to get new air service. No one should turn them away.


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