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Topic: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: Grisee08
Posted 2013-07-29 00:51:13 and read 25034 times.

I have wondered why some airlines used these cards in the past. I know they were necessary for airlines that did not assign seats (J7, WN etc.) but I have seen some for TW, EA, and I'm pretty sure they assigned seats. As a matter of fact, I'd stake a quarter million dollars that TW did  

So why did TW, as an example, need OCCUPIED SEAT cards
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TWA-Lockheed...efaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7f4ee68e

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: AeroWesty
Posted 2013-07-29 01:01:39 and read 24997 times.

Quoting Grisee08 (Thread starter):
So why did TW, as an example, need OCCUPIED SEAT cards

Airlines used to fly more multi-stop flights back in the day. I've a couple of those TWA cards in my flight memorabilia. You'd place one on your seat in case you got off at one of the stops, so if you didn't reboard in the first group, people wouldn't think your seat was vacant and start moving themselves or their stuff into your seat.

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: Grisee08
Posted 2013-07-29 01:06:59 and read 24924 times.

Hmm.. That's interesting. I do recall seeing timetables where airlines, take Southern Airways for example, would stop many times before heading to the final destination. e.g. a flight from Gulfport to Atlanta would stop in Mobile, or Hattiesburg, Meridian, Jackson, etc. I don't know if that is an actual route, but I was just using an example. It's been a long while since I have looked at a Southern Airways timetable.

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: AeroWesty
Posted 2013-07-29 01:29:28 and read 24696 times.

Take a look at this old TWA timetable. Flights from SFO, for example, often had one-stops, some even two or three. One flight went to Chicago, then meandered along to Columbus by way of Dayton. All three direct flights from SFO to Tulsa were two-stoppers.

http://www.departedflights.com/TW103077p44.html

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: lh526
Posted 2013-07-29 02:02:37 and read 24462 times.

Lufthansa had little round stickers till back in the 90s and (on multi leg flights). FAs went through the aisles asking each pax wether their final destination is for example EZE or SCL. if they replied SCL they got a "seat occupied" sticker on their headrest, showing cleaning teams that this seat is not to be cleaned / seat pocket emptied. Also was to show pax boarding in EZE that this seat is occupied (for those pax not aware of the assigned seating concept or those wanting to switch their seat from the previous leg)



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Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: flood
Posted 2013-07-29 02:38:05 and read 24147 times.

Back in the day, I recall Swissair having 2-3 inch square pins reading "Occupied / Besetzt / Occupado" [sp?]...the stewardesses would stick them into the top of the seat backs. This somewhere along the way on MNL-BKK-BOM-AUH/BAH-ZRH... something along those lines.

Pity I no longer have any, can't even seem to find a pic of them online.

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: HBGDS
Posted 2013-07-29 03:05:02 and read 23949 times.

I remember flying SR on GVA-ZRH-BOM-HKG in the early 80s (the flight continued onto NRT). While we could not leave the plane in BOM (technical stopover to clean up and refuel--this was before the DC-10-30ER), the little signs that were stuck into the headrest ensured the cleaning crew did not "tidy up," thus saving time for other tasks (check-in crew of course knew what seasts were already assigned). I think they (SR) used this already in the 1960s when they had the Coronados (later the DC-8s till the late 1970s) flying such milk-runs, only via Athens, too. I know the same use dto happen in GVA when SR 111 would drop off the Geneva-bound pax before carrying on to ZRH, only 30 minutes away...

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: nomadic
Posted 2013-07-29 03:09:06 and read 23924 times.

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 3):
Take a look at this old TWA timetable. Flights from SFO, for example, often had one-stops, some even two or three. One flight went to Chicago, then meandered along to Columbus by way of Dayton. All three direct flights from SFO to Tulsa were two-stoppers.

TWA had a lot of multi-stop flights, some going all the way across the country. I was aboard one of these myself in the 1970s. The flight (a 727-231) originated at SFO. I boarded at DEN on my way to New York. There were stops at STL and IND before arriving at LGA. I observed seat occupied signs being used at every stop.

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: robffm2
Posted 2013-07-29 03:14:06 and read 23873 times.

I've been flying once REC-MAD on PZ (Líneas Aéreas Paraguayas - Air Paraguay). They had blocked a few rows on the middle section of the DC10.
At the check-in in REC we got some a small paper basically just showing this very section of the plane. Got me a little confused at that time...

Sweet memories!

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: Grisee08
Posted 2013-07-29 03:21:29 and read 23812 times.

Back when I flew WN in 2005, I got my first taste of p2p flying as opposed to the non-stop flights I was used to. I flew AUS-MDW by way of BNA. When we got to BNA, we had the option to disembark, but we would lose our seat to anybody who boarded before we got back on, so I just stayed on the plane. I had a good seat in the first row and didn't want to give it up. Kinda wish we would have had OCCUPIED tags.

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: knope2001
Posted 2013-07-29 03:29:38 and read 23738 times.

Funny this should happen to pop up today. Just noticed yesterday on Delta that their air sickness bag said "I'll Be Back" on one side as a seat marker. Obviously Delta has been all-assigned-seating for ages, and I was surprised to see it. Of course people sometimes do jockey around for a better seat if they think something is open, but usually that's not until boarding is pretty much done.

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: blueshamu330s
Posted 2013-07-29 03:40:30 and read 23576 times.

I recall being told on one such flight that the stickers were to be used if you were intending to leave the aircraft at an intermediate stop where the cleaners were coming onboard to do a cabin refresh.

If the seat had a sticker, they wouldn't clear away any magazines, books and other items you'd left at your seat or in the pocket whilst you stretched your legs in the terminal.

On a carrier with seat assignments, it would seem a logical explanation.

Rgds

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: lufbra
Posted 2013-07-29 03:54:43 and read 23278 times.

AFAIK Delta still has that written on the back of their sick bags... "I'll be back" or something like that.

I was on a charter flight from FRA to HER via HAM in 2006. We had about 1.5 hrs in HAM before we were allowed to go back on board and though I put my "seat occupied" sign there people ignored it and took my beautiful overwing exit seat   german spirit at its best!   

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: Grisee08
Posted 2013-07-29 04:06:43 and read 23002 times.

Quoting lufbra (Reply 12):
though I put my "seat occupied" sign there people ignored it and took my beautiful overwing exit seat

Loss in humanity at its finest when people just throw your crap out and take what they like lol... "you didn't eat your muffin in the time it took to eat mine, I'm still hungry, you're too busy not eating your muffin, so I'm gonna take it, and there is nothing you're gonna do about it" kind of attitude.

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: jumpjets
Posted 2013-07-29 04:10:26 and read 22891 times.

Quoting lufbra (Reply 12):
We had about 1.5 hrs in HAM before we were allowed to go back on board and though I put my "seat occupied" sign there people ignored

You should have used a beach towel - the whole world would have known what that meant 

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: Grisee08
Posted 2013-07-29 04:12:24 and read 22850 times.

Quoting jumpjets (Reply 14):
You should have used a beach towel - the whole world would have known what that meant 

I'll have to remember that next time..
  

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: SouthernDC9
Posted 2013-07-29 06:48:26 and read 19508 times.

My first flight was on a Southern DC9 (!) from GLH-MCO... thanks to Departed Flights.com I'm pretty sure it was Flight 391, leaving GLH at 9:30Am and arriving MCO at 3:13pm, with stops in MLU, BTR, MSY and Eglin AFB... we could have flown through MEM but my mom liked the idea of not changing planes anywhere... I'm pretty sure we didn't get off the plane anywhere since there wasn't really much time at any stop (plus staying on the plane was kind of the point) but I think there was something there to save one's seat (I don't remember what seat assignments were like at that point). Next time we were more adventurous and changed planes in MEM!

Twice recently I've flown on "direct" flights (DCA-CVG-MEM on DL and DCA-DEN-SAN on F9) but the first one, there was a crew change so everybody had to get off the plane (we were allowed to board first for the second leg but obviously there were assigned seats) and on the F9 flight there was actually a plane/terminal change, but DCA-SAN pax didn't have to have a boarding pass for the second leg, we could just show picture ID (or the original boarding pass from DCA, which I somehow lost).

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: warreng24
Posted 2013-07-29 08:39:55 and read 17004 times.

IIRC the old pmCO air-sick bags used to have a "SEAT OCCUPIED" on the back. I remember using it a few times to let the FA know (I was seated in an exit row before the departure safety briefing), when I went to use the lav.

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: type-rated
Posted 2013-07-29 08:48:56 and read 16719 times.

Quoting Grisee08 (Reply 2):
I don't know if that is an actual route, but I was just using an example. It's been a long while since I have looked at a Southern Airways timetable.

A good example of a SO milk run would be MDW-MEM-GLH-MLU-BTR-MSY. They always used DC9 equipment. But when you stopped in MEM there were also Martin 404's all over the place too. This was in 1972.

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the Braniff seat cards. Very colorful with "Occupied/Occupado" on them.

I used these cards when I would leave the plane at intermediate stops to go look around the terminal buildings. This was back in the days where an intermediate stop could be 90 minutes long. The F/A always made an announcement that if you are leaving the plane and plan on continuing your journey on this flight make sure you are back at the gate in time. If you are not, we WILL leave you behind!

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: tugger
Posted 2013-07-29 09:08:25 and read 16264 times.

Quoting jumpjets (Reply 14):
You should have used a beach towel - the whole world would have known what that meant

OK, I suspect I'll regret it.... but what does this mean?

Regarding the "Seat Occupied" sign, isn't something like this also used for crew rest needs? I seem to remember seeing seeing these on long haul flights and the flight deck crew will eat and rest in these seats (usually F).

Tugg

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: AeroWesty
Posted 2013-07-29 09:13:29 and read 16162 times.

Quoting tugger (Reply 19):
OK, I suspect I'll regret it.... but what does this mean?

Something the Germans seem to have quite the reputation for:

Deal eases German lounger stress

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: Tomassjc
Posted 2013-07-29 10:07:36 and read 14837 times.

There was a time...way back when...when airlines checked in flights manually. Who remembers seating charts with the little pull tab seat numbers? They were stuck on a ticket jacket that served as a boarding pass. On a multi stop flight, when the flight departed the originating station, the gate agent would send a TTY message downline with the seat assingment and destinations of the thru passengers. The downline gate agent would pull those seats off of the seating chart at their station. Bare in mind there were no advance seat assignements back then, and check in for seat assignment was at the gate just before departure.

From my experience, I recall United and Western only offered seat assingments on originating flights, well into the 70s. Do to the short duration of flights, most local service carriers, had no seat assignment at all (Frontier, Hughes Airwest and Texas International come to mind) If you joined the flight on a thru stop, you just sat in whatever seat was open, so those seat occupied cards came in handy!

Yes, I'm old...but I still remember!

Tomas SJC

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: tlecam
Posted 2013-07-29 10:17:15 and read 14572 times.

I actually used to see these cards used quite a bit several years ago when I was flying from Boston to Seattle quite a bit. Direct flight with a stop in SLC. I actually used it a lot, because I would sleep from BOS-SLC and then get off hte plane, stretch my legs, get a coffee and start getting my brain in action for when I landed in Seattle, since I was usually going straight to the office.

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: Viscount724
Posted 2013-07-29 10:18:35 and read 14507 times.

Before seat assignment was automated, it was fairly common for seats to be assigned only from the point of origin of a multi-stop flight, but not from the intermediate stops, which made the occupied cards necessary if the through passengers wanted to deplane at the intermediate stops and not lose their seat when reboarding.

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: moose135
Posted 2013-07-29 10:21:12 and read 14438 times.

Quoting tugger (Reply 19):
OK, I suspect I'll regret it.... but what does this mean?

You've never been to the beach? You spread your towel out to claim your piece of sand. If someone has a towel spread out, you don't park your stuff there.

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: LoneStarMike
Posted 2013-07-29 10:21:21 and read 14565 times.

You can see many of the old cards by doing a Google image search

Somewhere I have the blue & gold one from the original Frontier Airlines.

LoneStarMike

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: B737900
Posted 2013-07-29 10:23:47 and read 14536 times.

Back in the B727 days (late 1970's) Alaska Airlines milk run up and down Southeast Alaska (SEA, Ketchican, Petersburg, Wrangell, Sitka , Juneau, Yakatat and ANC) one was able to deplane and go have a bite to eat or whatever. And of course each seat had an OCCUPIED sign. If you deplaned you had to board with the new pax and there were times that a seat was in dispute. Had to have the flight attendant decide. That milk run was a fun trip-north and south. Still have it.

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: tugger
Posted 2013-07-29 10:36:54 and read 14254 times.

Quoting moose135 (Reply 24):
You've never been to the beach? You spread your towel out to claim your piece of sand. If someone has a towel spread out, you don't park your stuff there.

I was actually thinking it was meaning something else, like" "I'm open to be with you... wink, wink" or something like that.

I live in a beach town, so I never really had the experience of going somewhere where it was just so full of people that it was impossible to find a spot (and who the heck would ever go to the beach or pool when EVERYONE goes   ). And the few tourist beach/pool spots I have gone to I never had the "first thing in the morning go lay your towel down or you won't have a spot" experience.

Tugg

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: brilondon
Posted 2013-07-29 10:40:26 and read 14129 times.

I remember when my family traveled from YXU to YOW on AC back in the '70s, I think it was about 75 but I am not sure, but we were not assigned seats for the two short flights we took that day. I believe that they would place occupied on the seats that people who were continuing past the next stop on a flight that had multiple stops with a number of short hops who wanted to get off the plane for a stretch and still have their seats. I don't believe that today they could have that type of service today with security the way it is.

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: PSAJet17
Posted 2013-07-29 10:42:50 and read 14063 times.

On one/multi stop flights if the layover was long enough, through passengers were given the option to leave the aircraft (mostly in those days to go out and have a smoke). After the passengers had left the plane, the flight attendants would walk through the plane counting empty seats. If an Occupied card was there they would not count it. Then they would give the count to the gate agent to verify the through count.

As someone else mentioned, on some multi leg flights, seats were not assigned beyond the origination so new boarding passengers would know they could not sit there.

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: aklrno
Posted 2013-07-29 11:14:32 and read 13328 times.

I wish WN had those cards today. When you are continuing on a flight they ask you to stay seated until they get a count of through passengers. After that I often use the lav, trying to be back in my seat before the next passengers board. I don't always make it. I usually leave my jacket or briefcase on the seat, but an occupied sign would be better.

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: Aesma
Posted 2013-07-29 11:14:40 and read 13329 times.

How I wish I could have done many stops milk runs, great for an aviation fan !

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 20):
Something the Germans seem to have quite the reputation for:

Deal eases German lounger stress

If you go on vacations spots where Germans are (pretty much everywhere) then this affects everybody (in fact I had no idea Germans were the culprit !). When I was at a club in Hammamet, Tunisia and would not get up in the morning (since I had spend the night dancing and drinking) the solution was to bribe the beach guy in advance so he would keep your spot !

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: UALWN
Posted 2013-07-29 11:21:50 and read 13212 times.

Quoting Aesma (Reply 31):
If you go on vacations spots where Germans are (pretty much everywhere) then this affects everybody

Well known phenomenon in the Spanish beaches. Germans get up at 8 am and stake a claim to every existing beach lounger. Britons get up at noon to find out they are all taken, and go straight back to the pub. Spaniards, of course, know better than going to the beaches popular with German or British tourists...

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: Trijetsonly
Posted 2013-07-29 13:12:35 and read 10883 times.

I am sorry for our bad German behavior. But I have to admit, I've done this before  

Anyway, Thank you to the thread starter for providing the eBay link. I have been searching quite a while now for a TWA L-1011 safety card for my collection and now I finally have one.

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: AzoresLover
Posted 2013-07-29 13:28:02 and read 10581 times.

Quoting Tomassjc (Reply 21):
Who remembers seating charts with the little pull tab seat numbers? They were stuck on a ticket jacket that served as a boarding pass.

Boy, I sure do! I flew lots of times early on where I'd pick my seat from that chart, and the agent would put that little sticky tab with the seat number on my boarding pass.

You mentioned something interesting to me...the agent letting the agents at future stops know which seats were taken so the next agent could pull those seats from his chart. I don't really remember that...what I remember is that those charts with seat tabs were only offered at the originating airport of a multi-stop flight. Pax boarding at intermediate stops were told...as I was many times...that when boarding, take any seat NOT having an occupied card on it, since agents at intermediate stops had no way of knowing which seats were already occupied by continuing pax.

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: L1011
Posted 2013-07-29 15:28:30 and read 8525 times.

Eastern was one that only assigned seats on originating flights. They used the pull-tab chart, but they had it turned toward them on their desk and it was hard for passengers to see. They would just ask if you wanted window or aisle, and they would pull off whatever tab they wanted to give you. I would try to see over their desk so I could choose the seat I wanted.

Bob Bradley

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: brilondon
Posted 2013-07-29 15:31:35 and read 8477 times.

Quoting Tomassjc (Reply 21):
Who remembers seating charts with the little pull tab seat numbers? They were stuck on a ticket jacket that served as a boarding pass.

Yes, yes I always wanted to get my hands on one of those, of course I was 12.

Quoting Tomassjc (Reply 21):
The downline gate agent would pull those seats off of the seating chart at their station. Bare in mind there were no advance seat assignements back then, and check in for seat assignment was at the gate just before departure.



I remember having to get to the airport about 4 hours before our flight on Wardair so we could get seats in the upper deck. That was just enough time as there were 8 seats left when we checked in and we sucked up 4 of them on the way over and were able to snag the same seats coming back from LGW back in 1985.

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: YXwatcherMKE
Posted 2013-07-29 15:48:58 and read 8204 times.

Okay, I will jump in on this to and show my age... Way back in the day of the late '60's and into the 70's I planned my travel based on how many stops a flight would make to my final destination. Like North Centrals 580's ORD-MKE-MSN-LSE-MSP. or MKE-OSH-GRB-CWA-EAU-MSP. Once my Dad and I did a flight that went from SLC to MSP on WA that made 5 stops between. That was the first time we had been on a 737, and boy did we had fun. We both loved take-off. But any way those days are long gone. To the memories of days gone buy.

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: Tomassjc
Posted 2013-07-29 16:10:28 and read 7898 times.

Quoting YXwatcherMKE (Reply 37):
Okay, I will jump in on this to and show my age... Way back in the day of the late '60's and into the 70's I planned my travel based on how many stops a flight would make to my final destination


I did that many times as well! Two trips will always stick out in my memory:
Summer 1970 on a National 727 MIA-MCO-JAX-MSY-IAH-LAX, while the rest of the family was on the Super DC8 nonstop.
And my favorite in June 1975: Hughes Airwest F27 LAX-IPL-YUM-PHX connecting to a Frontier 737 PHX-TUS-ABQ-DEN (with a hot dinner ABQ-DEN).
And home: Texas Intl D9S DEN-SLC connecting to a Western 737 SLC-LAS-LAX. All for the price of a regular roundtrip!

Tomas SJC

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: DTWPurserBoy
Posted 2013-07-29 17:21:25 and read 6961 times.

At Northwest we had what we called the "mountain hops" that were 6-7 landings from MSP to SEA. We used "Seat Occupied" cards that had two pins on the bottom to delineate where a passenger was supposed to get off--like 3 cards for Billings, 5 cards for Spokane and so forth. We stuck them on the top of the seat. Since many of these flight operated at night, passengers would be asleep and it made it easy for us to determine where someone was supposed to get off. It was really funny to see 6-7 cards on one passenger seat but we rarely had anyone overfly their destination! Crude, but effective.

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: BNORD1
Posted 2013-07-29 17:46:36 and read 6580 times.

Back in the dark ages (early to mid 1960's) Braniff operated flights 349 (south bound) and 348 (north bound. flight 349 lef MSP early am and stopped in FSD, SUX, OMA, MKC, ICT, OKC, DAL, SAT, CRP and BRO. flight 349 operated the route north bound. However I recall the north bound route via HOU, no sure. The "OCCUPIE" sign came in very handy if you wanted to deplane anywhere enroute. These flight were staffed by senior (at the time) flight attendants that came to know
the regular passenger, getting acquainted with their families. Monday mornings the flight was filled with "regulars" that knew each other as they start their business week.

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: EA CO AS
Posted 2013-07-29 18:48:17 and read 5838 times.

I collected more than my share of these during the mid to late 70s:

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: B737900
Posted 2013-07-29 19:12:47 and read 5558 times.

Quoting L1011 (Reply 35):
They would just ask if you wanted window or aisle

What about smoking or non-smoking? Not really a choice, back then the whole plane was smoking if you wanted it or not!

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: AeroWesty
Posted 2013-07-29 19:22:23 and read 5456 times.

Quoting B737900 (Reply 42):
back then the whole plane was smoking if you wanted it or not!

Airlines did the best they could. Delta's original 757 configuration had a "buffer zone" as you can see in the seat map on this page: Vintage Airline Seat Map: Delta Air Lines Boeing 757-200

I remember the little sticky boarding pass tabs too. I thought it was quite a leap of technology when TWA would send printed boarding passes with your ticket-by-mail purchase!

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: spacecadet
Posted 2013-07-29 21:10:16 and read 4325 times.

I completely forgot about those cards, but now I remember using them frequently on my flights from EWR-SFO and EWR-OAK, which usually had a stop in Chicago or somewhere else. Often I did not get off the plane at the stop but sometimes I did and I used those cards on those occasions.

Jeeze, I can't even remember the last flight I took that had a stop not involving a plane change. I remember when the hierarchy was like this:

Non-stop: total luxury - lucky if you got one except on very short routes
One-stop, same plane: pretty standard, usually what I expected
Multi-stop, same plane: not that infrequent, had its pros and cons
One-stop or multi-stop, plane change: annoyingly inconvenient, somewhat infrequent

Now non-stops are the norm and routes with stops seem to involve a connection more often than not. So no need for the cards anymore, even if things weren't all computerized now.

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: Grisee08
Posted 2013-07-30 01:41:31 and read 2556 times.

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 41):

I collected more than my share of these during the mid to late 70s:

I actually have one of those from EA as well. I have a J7, EA, and I have a few others. Haven't looked at them in a while. Might be time to break out the old airline collectible box, and maybe surprise myself.

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: L1011
Posted 2013-07-30 10:38:25 and read 2060 times.

Quoting B737900 (Reply 42):
Quoting L1011 (Reply 35):They would just ask if you wanted window or aisle
What about smoking or non-smoking? Not really a choice, back then the whole plane was smoking if you wanted it or not!

This was before there was a separate smoking section. Later they would also ask if you wanted smoking or non-smoking.

Bob Bradley

Topic: RE: Sorry... This Seat Is Occupied!
Username: andz
Posted 2013-07-30 10:38:57 and read 2061 times.

Talking about milk runs? My first 747 flight in late 1972 was on SAA from Salisbury to London, the routing was JNB-HRE-LAD-LHR. That can't have been fun for the pax originating in JNB.


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