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Topic: Turkish Airlines Exercises A330 Options
Username: LAXintl
Posted 2013-07-30 04:09:38 and read 5515 times.

Following its recent firming of more 77W orders, Turkish Airlines today in a regulatory filing with the Istanbul Stock Exchange stated it has exercised option on 3 additional A330-300 aircraft for delivery in 2015-2016. In January TK previously exercised 5 additional A333 options for 2014-2016 delivery.

This follow on would bring the A330-300 fleet to 33 by 2016.

Link
http://www.turkishairlines.com/en-in...ffic-results-ise-announcement/2013

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Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Exercises A330 Options
Username: TK787
Posted 2013-07-30 04:19:16 and read 5461 times.

Great!
This is on top of the 6 in 2015, and 5 x in 2016 A333 deliveries.
It is always amazing to see IST absorbing all this new metal year after year.
Next two years brings close to 25 A333/77Ws and 15 NB to this already busy hub.

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Exercises A330 Options
Username: scbriml
Posted 2013-07-30 04:25:23 and read 5403 times.

Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter):
This follow on would bring the A330-300 fleet to 33 by 2016.

Wow, that would make them the 3rd largest operator of the type after Air China & Cathay Pacific.

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Exercises A330 Options
Username: Someone83
Posted 2013-07-30 04:44:35 and read 5251 times.

Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter):
Link
http://www.turkishairlines.com/en-in.../2013

I also noticed they in June signed a leaseing agreemnt for 3 A330-200 for 6 six year. Is this the three x-Gulf Air?

[Edited 2013-07-30 04:46:56]

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Exercises A330 Options
Username: KarelXWB
Posted 2013-07-30 04:47:39 and read 5229 times.

Quoting scbriml (Reply 2):
Wow, that would make them the 3rd largest operator of the type after Air China & Cathay Pacific.

What do you mean with "type", the A330 family or the A330-300? Because Cathay Pacific only operate the -300 and Air China only has 11 A333s. TK on the other hand has another 14 -200 models in the fleet, plus 4 on order.

> CX: 22x A333 (plus 12 on order)
> CA: 26x A332 (plus 4 on order) + 11x A330 (plus 3 on order)
> TK: 8x A332 (plus 3 on order) + 6x A332F (plus 1 on order) + 10x A333 (plus 23 on order)

To become:

> CX: 34x A333
> CA: 30x A332 + 14x A333 = 44
> TK: 11x A332 + 7x A332F + 33x A333 = 51

So depending on you definition of "type", TK will become the largest A330 operator, or the 2nd largest A333 operator.

[Edited 2013-07-30 05:42:14]

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Exercises A330 Options
Username: angmoh
Posted 2013-07-30 05:11:59 and read 5079 times.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 4):
So depending on you definition of "type", TK will become the largest A330 operator, or the 2nd largest A333 operator.

SQ has 22 A333 operational and another 12 on order for a total of 34...

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Exercises A330 Options
Username: scbriml
Posted 2013-07-30 05:18:23 and read 5027 times.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 4):
What do you mean with "type", the A330 family of the A330-300?

I was referring to A330 fleets, not -300s specifically, but then miscounted!   

Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter):
In January TK previously exercised 5 additional A333 options for 2014-2016 delivery.

Only two -300s were firm ordered in Jan (with three options), taking their total on order to 27 with 10 delivered. This 'order' will presumably be the firming of the three options they took in January.
http://www.turkishairlines.com/en-in...ffic-results-ise-announcement/2013

Quote:
01.02.2013

In order to insure the need for wide body aircraft in the upcoming years, the Incorporation has decided to purchase 2 firm aircraft in 2014, 3 optional in 2015 and 2016, a total of 5 A330-300 aircraft, from Airbus Company.

and

Quote:
30.07.2013

Our Incorporation has decided to convert the options for three A330-300 aircraft that have been purchased from Airbus to firm orders to be delivered in 2015-2016.

So, I make that a total of 30 x -300 on order (with 10 already delivered).

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 4):
> TK: 11x A332 + 7x A332F + 33x A333 = 51

I think you've over-counted by 3 x -300. I make the grand total (11 x -200, 7 x F, 30 x -300) = 48.

Still a big fleet in anyone's book!   

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Exercises A330 Options
Username: Northstar80
Posted 2013-07-30 05:25:14 and read 4971 times.

Quoting scbriml (Reply 6):

I think you've over-counted by 3 x -300. I make the grand total (11 x -200, 7 x F, 30 x -300) = 48.

Still a big fleet in anyone's book!

Well, it is like yesterday when they ordered the first 5 A332s. When was it, 2004?

They order and take so many airplanes that it is no longer exciting  

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Exercises A330 Options
Username: TK787
Posted 2013-07-30 05:29:46 and read 4936 times.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 4):
TK: 8x A332 (plus 3 on order)

This is the first I hear that TK has 332s on order. As far as I know TK's long haul fleet is based on 333/77W and 343/332 leaving the fleet in 4-5 years. (some older 343 were already on sale but some 332s might stay a bit longer)

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Exercises A330 Options
Username: KarelXWB
Posted 2013-07-30 05:36:21 and read 4887 times.

Quoting scbriml (Reply 6):
I think you've over-counted by 3 x -300. I make the grand total (11 x -200, 7 x F, 30 x -300) = 48.

Yeah, I too thought the order in January was for 5 units.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 4):
> CX: 22x A333 (plus 12 on order)
Quoting angmoh (Reply 5):
SQ has 22 A333 operational and another 12 on order for a total of 34...

I confuse CX and SQ together, sorry. SQ will "only" have 34 A330s.

> CX: 40x A333 + 9 on order
> CA: 26x A332 + 4 on order + 11x A330 + 3 on order
> TK: 8x A332 + 3 on order + 6x A332F + 1 on order + 10x A333 + 20 on order

To become:

> CX: 49
> TK: 48
> CA: 44

Still impressive though.

[Edited 2013-07-30 06:01:38]

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Exercises A330 Options
Username: KarelXWB
Posted 2013-07-30 06:00:37 and read 4689 times.

Quoting TK787 (Reply 8):
This is the first I hear that TK has 332s on order. As far as I know TK's long haul fleet is based on 333/77W and 343/332 leaving the fleet in 4-5 years. (some older 343 were already on sale but some 332s might stay a bit longer)

Three old A332s are planned to enter the fleet:

> MSN 527, ex-Gulf Air A9C-KG, to be TC-JNU
> MSN 529, ex-Gulf Air A9C‑KH, to be TC-JNV
> MSN 532, ex-Gulf Air A9C‑KI, to be TC-JNY

These will be leased from ILFC.

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Exercises A330 Options
Username: TK787
Posted 2013-07-30 06:14:24 and read 4590 times.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 11):

I know about the leases of the 3 x ex-Gulf jets for 6 years, I just wanted to make a point that it is not a new order.

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Exercises A330 Options
Username: KarelXWB
Posted 2013-07-30 06:26:16 and read 4521 times.

Quoting TK787 (Reply 12):
I just wanted to make a point that it is not a new order.

I never said it was a new order, just that they are "on order". I think we have a different definition of "on order", in this case I meant on order with ILFC.

[Edited 2013-07-30 06:40:33]

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Exercises A330 Options
Username: frigatebird
Posted 2013-07-30 07:46:02 and read 4211 times.

Quoting Northstar80 (Reply 7):
Quoting scbriml (Reply 6):
I think you've over-counted by 3 x -300. I make the grand total (11 x -200, 7 x F, 30 x -300) = 48.

Still a big fleet in anyone's book!
Well, it is like yesterday when they ordered the first 5 A332s. When was it, 2004?

They order and take so many airplanes that it is no longer exciting

It is impressive indeed    And it was even more recent they tested the waters with a couple of leased 77W's, and with the recent order for 5 they will eventually 32 of those as well   

It's just a matter of when IST will have the necessary infrastructure ready, and we will see TK ordering A380s in huge quantities as well, perhaps they'll try it out with a lease from Doric first    A350s and 777X could very well be in their fleet plans on the longer term.

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Exercises A330 Options
Username: KarelXWB
Posted 2013-07-30 08:35:58 and read 4069 times.

The order is now also confirmed by Airbus:

http://twitter.com/Airbus/status/362234148653518848

Topic: RE: Turkish Airlines Exercises A330 Options
Username: Northstar80
Posted 2013-07-30 23:05:19 and read 3296 times.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 14):
http://twitter.com/Airbus/status/362234148653518848

100 bucks say they got the idea of "2nd biggest airline customer of A330" from reading this post  


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