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Topic: DL Announces MSP-HRL
Username: THEFLLFLYER
Posted 2013-09-11 08:35:41 and read 8745 times.

Delta has announced it will fly a winter-seasonal route between MSP and Harlington, Texas. The flight will be operated 1x daily with an A320 between December 21 and April 30.

http://www.themonitor.com/news/local...2-17e9-11e3-9bae-001a4bcf6878.html

Topic: RE: DL Announces MSP-HRL
Username: catiii
Posted 2013-09-11 08:47:26 and read 8656 times.

Quoting THEFLLFLYER (Thread starter):
Harlington, Texas

I think you mean Harlingen...

Topic: RE: DL Announces MSP-HRL
Username: mayor
Posted 2013-09-11 08:49:20 and read 8639 times.

Quoting catiii (Reply 1):
Quoting THEFLLFLYER (Thread starter):
Harlington, Texas

I think you mean Harlingen...

Used to be the home of the CAF (Confederate Air Force), now Commemorative Air Force, based in Midland, TX.

Topic: RE: DL Announces MSP-HRL
Username: BoeingMerica
Posted 2013-09-11 08:51:33 and read 8614 times.

Quoting THEFLLFLYER (Thread starter):
Delta has announced it will fly a winter-seasonal route between MSP and Harlington, Texas. The flight will be operated 1x daily with an A320 between December 21 and April 30.

Interesting, is the 'seasonal' aspect just to test out the route, with the prospect of it being a daily year round service?

Or is there a point of it being a late winter/early spring only route because of the slack in the system due to lower winter demand?

Topic: RE: DL Announces MSP-HRL
Username: washingtonflyer
Posted 2013-09-11 08:56:30 and read 8559 times.

Easy answer on this one: South Padre Island.

Topic: RE: DL Announces MSP-HRL
Username: osubuckeyes
Posted 2013-09-11 08:58:31 and read 8538 times.

Quoting BoeingMerica (Reply 3):
Interesting, is the 'seasonal' aspect just to test out the route, with the prospect of it being a daily year round service?

Spring/Winter Break at South Padre Island.

I think it its interesting that they didn't do ATL or DTW as well, but maybe those are still to come.

Topic: RE: DL Announces MSP-HRL
Username: MountainFlyer
Posted 2013-09-11 09:23:17 and read 8334 times.

Quoting osubuckeyes (Reply 5):

I think it its interesting that they didn't do ATL or DTW as well, but maybe those are still to come.

This route showed up in this week's OAG thread. There was some minor speculation that DL is going head-to-head with SY out of MSP for some reason. Not only did they add this route, but they increased frequency to PHX and extended many of the seasonal routes in the spring where SY also flies.

Topic: RE: DL Announces MSP-HRL
Username: IrishAyes
Posted 2013-09-11 09:55:17 and read 8105 times.

Quoting MountainFlyer (Reply 6):
Not only did they add this route, but they increased frequency to PHX and extended many of the seasonal routes in the spring where SY also flies.

Well, also NK is launching a few seasonal routes to sun destinations out of Minneapolis this winter as well, so its not just an SY-blitz.

Topic: RE: DL Announces MSP-HRL
Username: FlyingSicilian
Posted 2013-09-11 10:03:43 and read 8042 times.

Lots of snowbirds in south Texas. This route could do well in season.

Is HRL cheaper than Brownsville Airport? McAllen is too far west I presume.

Topic: RE: DL Announces MSP-HRL
Username: RWA380
Posted 2013-09-11 10:12:39 and read 7976 times.

Quoting MountainFlyer (Reply 6):
This route showed up in this week's OAG thread. There was some minor speculation that DL is going head-to-head with SY out of MSP for some reason.
Quoting MountainFlyer (Reply 6):
Not only did they add this route, but they increased frequency to PHX and extended many of the seasonal routes in the spring where SY also flies.

DL is trying to squash SY, NW style. NW has butted heads with SY in MSP for years, and SY has survived, many twin cities residents would fly SY for the lower fares and find it a decent experience.

SY even used to run a flight MSP-SEA-PDX some summers ago. DL has been focusing on their other hubs until now, it's just a bit of ill spirited activity on DLs part, that's all.

Topic: RE: DL Announces MSP-HRL
Username: cv880
Posted 2013-09-11 10:26:49 and read 7881 times.

Quoting THEFLLFLYER (Thread starter):
Delta has announced it will fly a winter-seasonal route between MSP and Harlington, Texas

HNL would be a bit more newsworthy.

Topic: RE: DL Announces MSP-HRL
Username: drerx7
Posted 2013-09-11 14:36:44 and read 7191 times.

MFE is too far west, maybe BRO has a negative connotation, inly UAex flies to BRO.

Topic: RE: DL Announces MSP-HRL
Username: whiskeyhotel
Posted 2013-09-11 14:42:50 and read 7165 times.

Quoting FlyingSicilian (Reply 8):
Is HRL cheaper than Brownsville Airport? McAllen is too far west I presume.

BRO has a tiny terminal (it really looks and feels more like a general aviation FBO than an airport), and lacks the amenities present at HRL (number of rental car companies, gate space, terminal space, etc). It is a somewhat shorter drive from BRO to S. Padre Island, but not enough to make a huge difference. Also, for people headed to places like Port Mansfield for sportfishing or birdwatching, HRL is closer. Although it is still in the planning stages, HRL will also be more convenient once the second causeway to the Island (running further North) gets built.

Topic: RE: DL Announces MSP-HRL
Username: CIDFlyer
Posted 2013-09-11 16:10:42 and read 6573 times.

Quoting drerx7 (Reply 11):
inly UAex flies to BRO

actually AAEagle flies to BRO as well via DFW, was started maybe a couple years ago

Topic: RE: DL Announces MSP-HRL
Username: Q
Posted 2013-09-11 17:07:05 and read 6074 times.

Sun Country is upset about Delta. SX had route MSP-HRL for many years. I remembered that Sun Country used to fly MSP-HRL on a DC-10!!!!

Q

Topic: RE: DL Announces MSP-HRL
Username: xdlx
Posted 2013-09-11 18:24:03 and read 5370 times.

they will get over it!

Topic: RE: DL Announces MSP-HRL
Username: KGRB
Posted 2013-09-11 19:49:46 and read 4630 times.

Quoting MountainFlyer (Reply 6):
they increased frequency to PHX

That is probably more in response to NK recently adding MSP-PHX than SY, who's has been flying it for years.

Quoting IrishAyes (Reply 7):
Well, also NK is launching a few seasonal routes to sun destinations out of Minneapolis this winter as well, so its not just an SY-blitz.

   Actually, DL and SY seem to peacefully co-exist in MSP. DL even does the ground handling for SY's MSP flights in PHX.

Topic: RE: DL Announces MSP-HRL
Username: sunking737
Posted 2013-09-11 19:59:11 and read 4561 times.

SY has flights more then once a week to HRL. SY is not worried about DL or even NK. SY is growing, 4 more 737 coming in the next few months. These are not even Transavia jets.

Topic: RE: DL Announces MSP-HRL
Username: usflyer msp
Posted 2013-09-11 20:18:08 and read 4413 times.

Quoting sunking737 (Reply 17):
SY has flights more then once a week to HRL.

DL's flight to HRL is daily.

Quoting sunking737 (Reply 17):
SY is not worried about DL or even NK.

SY would be foolish not to worry about the other carriers. SY has mainly been expanding in traditional DL business markets such as MSP - WAS/NYC/BOS/CHI/LAX/SFO. I fear they may have awakened the sleeping giant and make themselves a target. I believe that this difference in strategy is why the last CEO, Gadek, left SY.

Topic: RE: DL Announces MSP-HRL
Username: type-rated
Posted 2013-09-12 01:25:09 and read 3415 times.

Didn't WN serve HRL at one time?

Topic: RE: DL Announces MSP-HRL
Username: CIDFlyer
Posted 2013-09-12 04:46:01 and read 2951 times.

Quoting type-rated (Reply 19):

Didn't WN serve HRL at one time?



they still do

Topic: RE: DL Announces MSP-HRL
Username: FSDan
Posted 2013-09-12 05:27:23 and read 2794 times.

Quoting cv880 (Reply 10):
HNL would be a bit more newsworthy.

HRL is a completely new destination for DL. I'd say that's newsworthy.

Quoting type-rated (Reply 19):
Didn't WN serve HRL at one time?

WN has the following routes:

HRL-SAT
HRL-AUS
HRL-HOU
HRL-DAL

Topic: RE: DL Announces MSP-HRL
Username: MountainFlyer
Posted 2013-09-12 08:19:17 and read 1942 times.

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 18):
SY would be foolish not to worry about the other carriers. SY has mainly been expanding in traditional DL business markets such as MSP - WAS/NYC/BOS/CHI/LAX/SFO. I fear they may have awakened the sleeping giant and make themselves a target. I believe that this difference in strategy is why the last CEO, Gadek, left SY.

It's tough to say, although there could be some truth to what some of the other posters are saying. Perhaps it was not SY that sparked the ire of DL, but perhaps DL is heading off an NK invasion and SY is going to get caught in the crossfire.


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