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Topic: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: Deltal1011man
Posted 2013-09-11 03:23:50 and read 12848 times.

It has been 12 years since that terrible day. American 11 would leave BOS in a little under an hour and a half from this post and hit the North Tower at 0846. I wanted to start a thread to remember all 2,996 of those people who lost their lives that day.


Also, to keep it within the civil aviation side, Many airline employees were lost that day. Friends to some, brothers and sisters to airline employees everywhere. They all went above the line of duty that day.

American 11
Captain John Ogonowski, First Officer Thomas McGuinness, and flight attendants Barbara Arestegui, Jeffrey Collman, Sara Low, Karen Martin, Kathleen Nicosia, Betty Ong, Jean Roger, Dianne Snyder, and Amy Sweeney.

United 175
Captain Victor Saracini, First Officer Michael Horrocks, and flight attendants Robert Fangman, Amy Jarret, Amy King, Kathryn Laborie, Alfred Marchand, Michael Tarrou, and Alicia Titus

American 77
Captain Charles Burlingame III, First Officer David Charlebois, and flight attendants Michele Heidenberger, Jennifer Lewis, Kenneth Lewis, and Renee May.

United 93
Captain Jason Dahl, First Officer LeRoy Homer, Jr., and flight attendants Lorraine Bay, Sandra Bradshaw, Wanda Green, CeeCee Lyles and Deborah Welsh

Also I believe these flights had employees non-reving, if someone could post those names in remembrances also. (I cant seem to find them.)

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: EK413
Posted 2013-09-11 04:52:59 and read 12699 times.

Rest in Peace

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EK8413

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: 777Boeing777
Posted 2013-09-11 04:57:14 and read 12649 times.

Tributes can be seen all over here in the DC area. I drove into work this morning, and normally pass by seven flag poles flying the American flag and the flags of the services and agencies represented here. This morning there were 6 bare flag poles, with the center flag pole flying the American flag at half-mast. Talk about a lump in the throat.

I will never forget that day. I was sitting in traffic underneath I-395 on the on-ramp to S. Washington Blvd when N644AA was flown into the western side of the Pentagon.The only time I have ever felt a shock wave worse than that was in Iraq.



[Edited 2013-09-11 05:05:25]

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: CONTACREW
Posted 2013-09-11 05:16:51 and read 12565 times.

Jesus Sanchez, 45, was an off-duty flight attendant from Hudson, Massachusetts.

My family and I had just visited NYC a couple weeks before 9/11 happened, and the day it happened my dad had the tv on and I had just woke up right as I saw the second plane hit, and I thought to myself "jesus christ what the hell is happening" I just couldn't believe what I was seeing and I think for the next few days or so after this happened, I just kept my eyes glued on the TV watching all the coverage etc.

Also this happened right after my grandpa's 80th birthday and we had a lot of family flying in from all over to celebrate over the weekend and when the time came for everyone to start flying back home, I dropped a few of them off at the airport and I remember everything being so different as opposed to dropping them off no being able to go thru security to see them off, the employees at the counter having a somber mood, extra security etc. It was just an awful day all around.

May all those who were lost on that awful day RIP.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: holzmann
Posted 2013-09-11 05:20:16 and read 12534 times.

I was 21 at the time, a junior at Georgia Tech. What a chaotic morning. Campus closed by noon. Spent the next several days glued to the TV. And we're all still dealing with the ripple effects from that day.

RIP to all who died and may peace comes to those who lived.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: 777Boeing777
Posted 2013-09-11 05:33:53 and read 12474 times.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: abrown532
Posted 2013-09-11 05:56:34 and read 12356 times.

Does anyone have the link to the original thread way back in 2001? Is it archived?

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: Braniff747SP
Posted 2013-09-11 06:13:46 and read 12326 times.

Quoting abrown532 (Reply 6):
Airplane Crashed Into The World Trade Center. (by Hustler Sep 11 2001 in Civil Aviation)

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: max999
Posted 2013-09-11 06:14:19 and read 12261 times.

I was in Lower Manhattan that morning, thankfully not at the World Trade Center though. I remember being evacuated north up Broadway...it was such a surreal scene, like being cast in some disaster movie.

Everyone was walking in one direction with no cars in the streets, people desperately trying to make calls on their cell phones with no success, groups huddled around a parked car playing the radio, and long lines at the ATMs and at the phone booths.

Then while I was still in SoHo, the entire crowd suddenly turned around and gasped as we watched the the second tower collapse in front of our eyes.

[Edited 2013-09-11 06:16:40]

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: rj777
Posted 2013-09-11 06:26:51 and read 12198 times.

The 4 aircraft involved- RIP:

AA77

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Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: washingtonflyer
Posted 2013-09-11 07:27:11 and read 11926 times.

I was at work here in Downtown DC - three blocks from the White House when it all started. We saw the second one go into the WTC on TV and knew immediately that it was no accident (I had a feeling that the first one was no accident either (especially given how clear of a day it was)).

My secretary then got a phone call from her son who worked at the Pentagon and was told that there was an explosion there. We then heard - mistakenly - that a car bomb had gone off at the State Department.

Not good.

We lost one coworker on AA 77 - a fried of mine. We would have lost three others, but they went bar hopping the previous night and wound up being too hung over to make the early morning departure to LAX. The one coworker opted not to go out.

Surreal.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: BoeingMerica
Posted 2013-09-11 08:47:07 and read 11607 times.

Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 7):

Quoting abrown532 (Reply 6):
Airplane Crashed Into The World Trade Center. (by Hustler Sep 11 2001 in Civil Aviation)

Thread is not working for me, after about 10 of the 400 responses the page just ends, but if you collapse the responses you can see all the responses. Weird.

But I am totally okay with it, as the first ten make me sick to my stomach. Just responses of sheer shock like "HOLY SHIT, TURN ON CNN!!!".......it is disgusting.   

As someone who loves to fly, and is not afraid in a post 9/11 era because I know passengers could handle a potential repeat of this, I would be totally freaked out to fly on the anniversary. I just could not get my self to set foot on a plane.   

R.I.P. all involved, and continued peace for those who were directly affected by the attacks.

A day like today makes me totally okay with all the "privacy intrusion" stories we hear the other 364 days going on in airports. Much rather the TSA get a picture of me "naked" then have this happen again to anyone.

Days like today make me so proud and thankful I am an American, wouldn't trade it for the world.

BoeingMerica

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: Reffado
Posted 2013-09-11 09:07:20 and read 11498 times.

I was only six at the time, and was at school (American School) in Chile. Class was stopped and they made all of the students go to the gym, where CNN was on in a big screen. We, the younger ones, didn't really understand what was going on, but by the time the second plane hit, even we could feel the horror. Nobody spoke, nobody cried, we just watched. 600 children, teens and adults, aged 4 to 70, in the same room, completely still and silent, just seeing that horrid image. It still gives me the creeps. May all the victims rest in peace. And I wish peace for all of those who lost someone that day. I just hope and pray that an incident like that is never repeated.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: flymia
Posted 2013-09-11 09:11:41 and read 11476 times.

I remember that day well and I was only 12 at the time. I remember the class I was in, I remember the class/teacher who first showed us the news coverage. It is crazy to this that is has been 12 years because at the time I had only been 12 years old. So the time that has past since 9/11 is the same amount of time I was alive. It doesn't seem like it. I feel like it.

I also remember the last two times I saw the WTC. In November of 2000 on a thanksgiving family trip to NYC we went downtown to take a tour of the NYSE only to find it closed. We decided to go to the WTC instead. Then in August of 2001 on a road trip we passed NYC and I saw the WTC. I even still have the picture I took of it. Crazy to think that picture would not be possible 2 months later. I was then in NYC in November of 2001. Passing by ground zero is something I will never forget. I remember the intense security at MIA and JFK too.

I remember coming home and turning on my VCR to record the news coverage because back in 2001 who would have thought something like youtube could come up. I still have the special edition of the Miami Herald and I still have a print out from the MIA website showing all the flights cancelled. It is crazy how well you remember days like that, I guess it is because every year you re-live it.

People in my age group 22-25 are really the youngest people now who remember the pre 9/11 world well but at the same time have grown up in the post 9/11 world. In my aviation law class the professor was speaking how he starts the class every year now speaking about 9/11 since it is such a large subject in aviation law. Every year the stories become younger and younger. In a few years the majority of the students would have been in elementary school. I am just glad that I got to see the pre 9/11 world because when you think of it, it really has changed a lot in our lives. Especially in the aviation industry.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: Braniff747SP
Posted 2013-09-11 09:28:05 and read 11369 times.

I remember the day well. I was only five, but it is an event that I will forever remember; indeed, it is one of my earliest clear memories.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: zrs70
Posted 2013-09-11 09:33:48 and read 11332 times.

I was a 31 year old associate rabbi at the time. I remember the young girl who became a Bat Mitzvah the following Shabbat. The courage and poise she had to lead the congregation under such circumstances was inspiring.

May the memories of those died, and the loss our entire nation endured - always guide us toward bringing goodness into the world.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: macsog6
Posted 2013-09-11 09:43:14 and read 11271 times.

Today is the first 9/11 anniversary that I have not deliberately been on a commercial aircraft. I made it a point to fly on a scheduled US carrier every 9/11 commencing in 2002. Alas, duty called and I am on the ground today but I can assure you that emotionally I am up in the clouds where I belong.

I was in Australia on 9-11-01 (the attack occurred late in the night there) and recall with vivid intensity what 9-12-01 looked like in Sydney. I never knew there were so many American flags in Australia.

Fly on...and touch the hand of God.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: baileyncreme
Posted 2013-09-11 09:56:44 and read 11049 times.

I was working a Portland International Airport (PDX) for ASIG (Aircraft Services Intl Group) as a Jet-A fueler
that morning on the overnight shift.

I had just completed fueling up a FedEx MD-10 and a fellow fueler reported on our radio sets that the 1st
plane had crashed. I was then driving out Dart 10,000 gallon tanker truck over to the reload rack when I saw
a Delta 727 holding short of the runway. We had Portland tower frequencies tuned in and they ordered
that flight and others back to their gates.

Within a short time, two Oregon Air Guard F-15's came up the taxi way and immediately took off for the skies.
I remember standing there crying my eyes out saluting them as those pilots passed me by for the end
of the runway. They both saluted me back.

God bless the men and women of the Oregon Air Guard on that day.

[Edited 2013-09-11 09:57:16]

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: cjg225
Posted 2013-09-11 10:07:07 and read 10865 times.

It was either the second or third week of my freshman year in high school. I heard about the attacks in the hallway on the way from my first class to my second class. I had thought I heard someone say that someone bombed the WTC, but I wasn't entirely sure, since I had to really rush to get between those two classes on time. I walked into my second class in time to see the second plane crash into the WTC. We watched coverage for a bit but the teacher turned it off and made us do work. He turned it off because I hit another student, who was making fun of images of people jumping off the WTC to their deaths. In my third class, we didn't really do anything. The teacher turned off the lights, put the TV on low, and gave us some busywork that wasn't really important.

Every year on September 11th for the rest of high school, I'd print out photos of each of the planes from A.net's picture database along with a photo of the American flag hanging on a piece of rubble at the WTC and tape them to my locker along with some quotes from that day.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: SXDFC
Posted 2013-09-11 10:09:03 and read 10842 times.

God Bless those who passed away 12 years ago today, as well as those who died after 9/11 ( the many first responders ).

I am curious however as to if there are any stories from the folks who worked those flights ( Ramp Agents, Gate Agents,etc ).. Would most certainly make for an interesting read.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: boeingguy26
Posted 2013-09-11 10:10:26 and read 10809 times.

I walk into my Associated Student Body professor's class and see smoke billowing out from two tall towers. To that day, I did not know what the World Trade Center was. By the time I saw (0800 PST) it was already concluded that it was a terrorist attack and didn't go through the emotional questioning of "What exactly is happening here?". But since then, every year I watch many documentaries of the day and have even read the book called "Let's Roll", written by the wife of Todd Beamer, which was one of the passengers on UA93 that fought back to take control of the plane which unfortunately crashed into the ground. However, their heroic efforts may (most likely) saved hundreds if not thousands of lives. My prayers out to those who perished and to those who lost a loved one from that day. God bless them and you all, and may He protect the skies!

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: Stackhouse007
Posted 2013-09-11 10:12:32 and read 10779 times.

It is a very strange feeling reading through the thread from that day.. I was in 5th grade when that happened and didn't really understand it all. Now I am 21 and have my private pilot's license, working on my instrument, and hope to be flying the rest of my life. Rest in peace to everyone involved that day and thank you to those who serve this country. Never forget.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: robsaw
Posted 2013-09-11 10:20:27 and read 10644 times.

As I reflect on it, it still seems that it was a surreal experience watching the events unfold that morning and later as I drove into work seeing all the unusual aircraft coming into YVR due to the closure of US airspace. Finally made it to NYC this July and visited the 9/11 memorial and tribute center. Makes one think about the irrational hate that is still circulating in the world today.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: 757gb
Posted 2013-09-11 10:40:58 and read 10386 times.

Quoting BoeingMerica (Reply 11):
But I am totally okay with it, as the first ten make me sick to my stomach. Just responses of sheer shock like "HOLY SHIT, TURN ON CNN!!!".......it is disgusting.  

I totally agree... I've read it before, and yet it is still sickening to reading it today.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: nssd70
Posted 2013-09-11 10:58:36 and read 10123 times.

I remember driving and hearing the first reports when the first plane hit. My son's Sunday School teacher's cousin was Captain Jason Dahl on Flight 93.
Doug

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: SXDFC
Posted 2013-09-11 11:18:18 and read 10495 times.

Quoting SXDFC (Reply 19):

It looks like I was able to find something that talked about the AA guys who worked AA 11 out of BOS that day.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas...iced_casualties_of_sept_11/?page=1

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: winstonlegthigh
Posted 2013-09-11 11:49:52 and read 9973 times.

Remember is a word that gets thrown around with regularity on this day for the past 12 years, but we've been forced to "remember" every day since. Lament is probably the more accurate word.

[Edited 2013-09-11 11:53:31]

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: TWA1985
Posted 2013-09-11 11:56:53 and read 10199 times.

It's the 12th anniversary of one one of the darkest days in American History. I wrote this to commemorate that tragic day ...

This is for the flight attendant who bravely tended to her passengers before their plane slammed into the World Trade Center ~ For the wife who stopped on the stairs and called her husband to say, "I will love you forever," before the building collapsed around her. ~ For the mothers and fathers who kissed their children goodbye, not knowing those kisses would be their last ~ For the husband who told his pregnant wife, "please raise our future son so he never forgets his daddy," before his plane crashed into a field in Pennsylvania ~ For the policemen and firemen who rushed in to save the lives of strangers, only to die themselves ~ For the soldiers who fought back for our country, and lost their lives. Today, tomorrow and forever ... WE WILL REMEMBER!

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: readytotaxi
Posted 2013-09-11 12:11:31 and read 10111 times.

I remeber in the UK us getting the breaking news in the afternoon, jaw dropping coverage. The film crew who were with the New York fire station on the day, the people who took shelter in a corner shop just before the dust encircled them.
So many images of a tragic day. And the humanity that went out to people,total strangers, heart warming.   

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: soon7x7
Posted 2013-09-11 12:17:56 and read 10050 times.

That morning I was ready to taxi a C-172 to fly up north to photograph a Gulfstream Jet for a customer. I was departing from KISP out on Long Island. Had just gotten my clearances then all hell broke loose. A ramper jumped in front of my now running aircraft and gave me the signal to cut...I was to fly just north of NYC under class Bravo Airspace @ 1400 ft & below. This would have me North of KLGA. This would have been a terrible event to witness from inside a bug smasher from my perspective, while airborne. Another one of our fleet planes had just departed Brookhaven, a non towered field and was flanked by an F-16 & forced to land. Much adrenaline that morning. Years back I watched those towers being built over a long period of time while working in NYC. In seconds they fell. In seconds the world was a different and more dangerous place. This was an event locally that picture nor words can best describe it.

WTC, New York,...

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: kcm572
Posted 2013-09-11 12:29:13 and read 9757 times.

I remember that day as if it were yesterday. We were heading out to the coffee truck at work when one of my co-workers said a plane hit the World Trade Center. My first though was a small Cesena or something, never a commercial airliner. We do not have TV's where I work so at lunch I drove to a friends house to watch the news. The most vivid memory of that day was while I was driving there, 2 fully armed F16's flew about 1000 feet above me heading toward DTW. We see several fighters in this area from Selfridge ANGB but never that low and never fully armed.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: washingtonflyer
Posted 2013-09-11 12:30:00 and read 9754 times.

NYC certainly took it very hard - and has fought hard to bounce back (which it has done).

In DC, they say that everybody knows somebody who knows somebody who perished on 9/11. I think in New York, its more that everybody knows somebody who perished on 9/11.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: Luxair
Posted 2013-09-11 12:32:55 and read 9678 times.

R.I.P. to all the victims of 9/11 I will never ever forget that terrible day. Wish all the best to our Amercain friends, God bless you!

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: TwoSixLeft
Posted 2013-09-11 12:47:37 and read 9473 times.

I was nine and had just come back into my classroom from morning recess. It must have been about ten o'clock, and the teachers gathered everyone in the fourth, fifth, and sixth grades together to tell us what had happened. We were informed about the Pentagon first, unlike most people I've encountered, and only found out about the World Trade Center after a teacher managed to locate a radio. I recall that two of my classmates were terrified, as their mother was at the Sears Tower that day for a business meeting, and they feared this would be the next building attacked. Previously, our lives had unfolded with calm regularity and routine, and not knowing, for the first time, what would come next was horrifying.

The other vivid memory is Peter Jennings on the news that night. His demeanor was somber but oddly comforting; he called attention to the horror of early that day, and yet he managed to be a reassuring, serene presence in the midst of the storm. He was a credit to journalism in the face of sensationalism.

May those who died senselessly and those who died bravely in the line of duty rest in peace, and God be with them and their families now and always.

[Edited 2013-09-11 12:48:24]

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: robbie86
Posted 2013-09-11 12:51:32 and read 9421 times.

Twelve years later and we as passengers still allow ourselves to be put through more and more integrity violating treatment all in the name of "the war on terrorism". It's time we start to say enough.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: rwy04lga
Posted 2013-09-11 13:17:08 and read 9051 times.

Quoting EK413 (Reply 1):
EK8413

The beams of light in those 2 pics are much too far away from the new tower to represent the true locations of WTC towers 1 and 2.

On Sunday 9/9/2001, I had taken three friends (2 of them Muslims) on a flight down the Hudson in my Archer. Little did I know that would be the last time I would see the towers.

I lost 3 other friends 2 days later in WTC 1.   

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: BoeingMerica
Posted 2013-09-11 13:28:04 and read 8867 times.

Quoting baileyncreme (Reply 17):
Within a short time, two Oregon Air Guard F-15's came up the taxi way and immediately took off for the skies.
I remember standing there crying my eyes out saluting them as those pilots passed me by for the end
of the runway. They both saluted me back.

Wow man, deep stuff. Pretty touching 3 sentence story. Thanks for sharing.

BoeingMERICA

[Edited 2013-09-11 13:30:04]

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: ECGGS
Posted 2013-09-11 13:42:47 and read 8834 times.

On September 11, 2001 I was a passenger on Delta flight 61 from London Gatwick to Boston. I remember I was distractedly looking out the window as we cruised over the atlantic when I noticed we made a big turn. Having made the transatlantic journey many times, I realized something was different and assumed we were diverting for technical reasons. When the captain came on a little while later he announced that we were turning around and heading to Shannon Ireland but didn't really get into details other than to make clear that there was nothing wrong with the aircraft. Perhaps 20 minutes later the Captain spoke to us again to tell us that there had been terrorist attacks in the US and that the "border was closed". At this point, we (the passengers) were all looking around at each other bewildered but most of us I think assuming it was a much smaller scale event on the order of a car bomb at the airport or something like that. The captain came on a 3rd time and this time he informed us that aircraft had struck the towers in Manhattan as well as the Pentagon. He indicated that the seat belt sign would remain on for the remainder of the flight and we were not to get out of our seats for any reason. The mood on board changed sharply. People were frightened, a few cried.

We had satellite phones installed in each group on of seats. Usually I would not be tempted to use one as they cost (back then at least) something like $12 or $15 per minute. But I figured that if circumstances ever warranted the expense of a sat call, this was it. Indeed many people were trying to make calls but virtually no calls were getting through as the US phone system (we would later learn) was completely overloaded. I ended up getting a call through to my family in Spain (where I had been visiting). I ended up talking for a solid 45 minutes and sharing the details with those around me. I should point out that I was never billed for what surely would have been a $400 - $500 call -- no charge every appeared on my credit card. To this day I'm not aware of who generously picked up this bill: Delta Airlines? Or perhaps the Satellite phone company decided not to bill that day because of what was happening? Either way, I am very grateful.

I should also point out that I think Delta and Servisair did a spectacular job taking care of us. By the time we landed in Shannon, Delta had already arranged bus transportation for us to hotels some 2 hours away. Shannon is not a very large town and there were quite a few aircraft diversions -- there was no hotel availability in the nearby vicinity thus the bus ride. Delta even paid for the first night in the hotel as well as long distance phone calls made from the room (leading me to think maybe they funded the Sat call as well). I don't believe they were under any obligation to do these things as the situation was obviously completely outside of their control. I'm not loyal to many brands but ever since that day, if I'm going somewhere and Delta is an option, I fly Delta. At a moment when I was feeling pretty helpless and sentimental, Delta took care of me -- I won't soon forget that.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: 757gb
Posted 2013-09-11 13:53:32 and read 8525 times.

Quoting winstonlegthigh (Reply 26):
Remember is a word that gets thrown around with regularity on this day for the past 12 years, but we've been forced to "remember" every day since. Lament is probably the more accurate word.

I see your point and agree. I do however have to say that the word Remember becomes important in the face of hypocrisy. What I mean by that is that every once in a while we need to remember this purely for what it was, a horrible tragedy and a heinous crime. I get so frustrated when idiots disrespect it by mixing it with debates about war, anti or pro US and what not.

It really bothers me that people could actually justify it in some cases because of ideology or hatred of the United States. Regardless of country this was the murder of nearly 3,000 innocent lives.

You can agree or not with the response, you might even hate the US if you want, but the pure evil of what happened 12 years ago is unquestionable. It goes beyond countries or ideologies. So that's why I remember it, post it and honor the victims in social media and will not allow anyone to even try to spin it in any way in those posts.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: cjg225
Posted 2013-09-11 14:00:10 and read 8424 times.

Quoting ECGGS (Reply 37):

Thanks for posting that story, ECGGS. Lost in a lot of the 9/11 Remembrance is what was done for those affected in other ways, such as you. Companies, towns, and individual everyday people made huge efforts to manage the crisis and assist those affected. I remember seeing some time ago a piece done by an American news agency on this small Canadian town up in Nova Scotia, I think, that handled something like 20 airliners full of people when their flights landed there shortly after the FAA closed US airspace.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: GUYAIR707
Posted 2013-09-11 14:45:34 and read 7882 times.

It was not an easy day. As I arrived for class, everyone was watching it unfurl on TV. I went to class and the professor tried to continue teaching, then someone said the tower collapsed, and everyone walked out, as she said class was cancelled. We all met in the auditorium, and all those living in Queens agreed to house those that could not get back to Manhattan. We were all in shock, and many there cried.

The thing I remember was that we were very unsure of what would happen next. Would there be another attack, a bigger one, were we safe? It was unprecedented to say the least. We could see the towers smoldering in the distance, before and after they collapsed. It was surreal.

RIP

GUYAIR707

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: willzzz88
Posted 2013-09-11 14:50:06 and read 7839 times.

I was in high school in a class when the teacher told us seating closely to him that the Pentagon was struck and later planes struck the twin towers via a email. Later we all moved into a gym and were told of the news and I believe eventually had the rest of the classes of the day cancelled.

May God Bless America. RIP Victims.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: Viscount724
Posted 2013-09-11 15:00:46 and read 7804 times.

Some of the approximately 240 aircraft diverted to at least 17 airports in Canada on 9/11. First photo at Halifax (47 flights) and second at Gander (38 flights). They handled the most diversions, followed by Vancouver with 34 and St. John's with 21.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: steeler83
Posted 2013-09-11 15:08:15 and read 7640 times.

Senior in high school here, AND I had turned 18 that June.

At 8:46 I was in my trig class (thought didn't even cross my mind at the time). The following class was my social sciences class which was held in a classroom with cable TV. CNN was on and it showed the buildings burning. At first I thought it was some kind of remembrance thing for the 1993 bombing (I forgot at the time exactly when that occurred.) Then they showed the second plane hitting the World Trade Center, and at that time I knew what was happening.

We were supposed to head to the school library to start our SR class projects. Upon arrival at the library, the librarian came to the door and said, "this is an awful day, they just hit the Pentagon!" Some time later, I remember seeing what appeared to be one of the buildings collapsing, and that horrific thought was confirmed later on. I didn't get to see any footage of the North Tower collapse. That happened while I was in jazz ensemble which took place in a room with no TV. The rest of the day we heard rumors of other hijackings (planes bound for Dallas, Denver, Chicago, etc). The only rumor that proved true was the one of a hijacked plane somewhere in the area (Pittsburgh).

That truly was a horrific day. My mom worked at Marsh & McClennon at the time, and I wonder if she still has the name Bob Kennedy in her database somewhere (maybe not since as of 2007 she's no longer with the company). In any event, Bob was one of the employees of Marsh who was lost that day. Marsh, which has its global HQ in Midtown, had its financial services department in the North Tower. Much of the offices were right in the impact zone, and that's where his office was...

Rest in peace, Mr. Kennedy, and rest in peace to those who lost their lives that day. Thank you for making our country great!

You want to hear something else kinda scary? The day before, we had a guidance councilor talk to us about the importance of signing up for the selective service upon turning 18.   

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: CAMPBELL
Posted 2013-09-11 15:09:58 and read 7627 times.

I was 35yrs old and a SSGT in the USAF at Charleston AFB working at the Current Operations Office. We had a small TV in the office and I kept looking at the hole that was left by Flight 11. I went to stand up the Group Control Center and we watched the Today show and got the news about the Pentagon and Flight 93. I kept the Wing Flying schedule for that day for many years, needless to say, all the C-17 local training missions were cancelled and Charleston got many aircraft after the airspace was shut down. We had a Air Jamaica Airbus on the ramp among all the aircraft. I kept my September 2001 Pocket OAG and noticed this morning that United did not have a morning departure from Boston to Los Angeles in their current schedule.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: 9lflyguy
Posted 2013-09-11 15:30:51 and read 7332 times.

I was in 6th grade in school in Glen Rise, Arkansas. My mother had just been hired at WN as a flight attendant. I remember worrying so much at first when they didn't know what airlines or type of planes they were. When my father finally recieved the call that my mom was okay, I remember feeling such a sense of relief.

As a flight attendant myself now, my heart goes out to everyone lost that day but especially the flight crews and their families. May they never be forgotten, have forever blue skies and a strong tailwind.

I take great pride in my country. We do not have to agree with the mission but we should also thank all the men and women who our fighting in our armed forces.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: usctrojan18
Posted 2013-09-11 15:53:04 and read 7155 times.

Had UA 93 been successful and had been aiming at the Capitol Building, my uncle might not be alive. He was at the capital building when he said he heard an explosion and saw smoke rising from the other side of the Potomac. He said he was just standing there staring and didn't leave the Capitol Building until about 10:30. That is right around when UA 93 would've hit. I really love the passengers who fought back and I have never met any of them, but they are a reason why my uncle is alive today.

"Are you guys ready? Okay, let's roll." RIP Todd Beamer, RIP pax of UA 93 and RIP all who lost their lives on 9/11

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: TwoSixLeft
Posted 2013-09-11 15:55:25 and read 7111 times.

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 42):

The way the people of Gander opened up their homes to the stranded pax from the flights in that photo was that day's desperately needed reminder that the world was not entirely evil.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: skycub
Posted 2013-09-11 16:02:17 and read 7054 times.

You know... for those of us that are old enough to remember it....and for those of us that are old enough to actually have worked for an airline that day...

We really don't want to talk about it.

We just don't.

I don't expect the people on here who were barely born or who were just teenagers to understand... but for those us of who were in the business that day... it's a hard thing.

I know for a lot of people on here, it may just be a day of commercial aviation infamy....

But for those of us that worked for one of those carriers... for those of us who know exactly what those flight attendants were seeing in their last few moments... for those of us who wore those uniforms.... its a very sad, sad day and, I think I speak on behalf of all former AA/UA crew members... our feelings about that day are not something that we want to post online.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: BWI5OH
Posted 2013-09-11 16:02:57 and read 7048 times.

On 09/11/2001, I had been "officially" married for 10 days. That was my first day back to work as a Highway Patrolman after our honeymoon. I remember that day as clear as the sky was that morning. I pulled over an 18 wheeler for speeding, and before I could get anything out of my mouth, I remember the driver saying the World Trade Center just had a plane crash into it. I remember him saying how strange it was, because he was on the phone with his wife in NY and she told him the sky was crystal clear. While him and I talked for the next 45 minutes listening to his radio, we heard the news that a second plane hit the other tower. I knew that something wasn't right, and knew my day just became one of the worst in my career. Through all of the rumors going around about missing planes, alleged other hijackings and targets, I worked a total of 23 hours that day. From that day forward for almost 3 months, I never received one day off, nor did I ask for one. I don't think any Trooper griped about it either...we were proud to do our part.

Needless to say, I think of that day EVERYDAY. I'll never forget, and I'll always think of those innocent lives taken for no other reason than hatred.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: Ytraveller
Posted 2013-09-11 16:04:22 and read 7019 times.

I was so young I can't even remember 9/11. I did visit the Twin Towers, though, in 2000, and supposedly had my picture taken on the observation decks.

My family may look "Middle Eastern", so I don't know how they were affected in the weeks and months following the attacks. It's something I don't really (or ever) bring up with my family, nor have they really talked to me about them. Using the Internet and the Internet Archives, I've been able to see news footage of the attack. On another note, the Twin Towers, although essentially two gray sticks in the skyline, are quite beautiful structures.

I still have a deep respect for all those who were victims of these terrorist attacks. Even though I'm an atheist, the generalizations people hold against Muslims is also unfortunate.

May all those some 3,000 people killed on 9/11 rest in peace.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: AllegiantFlyer
Posted 2013-09-11 16:21:51 and read 6841 times.

Lets also think about the kids of 9/11 as their lives were most affected, and still are affected each and every day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_Cr2633Po8

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: olliejolly
Posted 2013-09-11 16:30:13 and read 6694 times.

I didn't hear anything about the attacks until after I had finished school at 7 years old (3pm GMT,) and as my Mum picked me up and we were walking into town she said we had to get home so we could see the "nurse."
And I said "Why do we need to see the nurse?"
"Not the nurse, the news, because there's been a plane crash in New York"

That's all I remember until 2003, when I visited NYC with my Dad.
I was 10 in 2003, 20 now, and the sight of ground zero even then still gives me chills.

I've had younger people ask me now why I feel so emotional about it because I'm "not even american," but 9/11 is one of the only anniversaries that I feel I have a real emotional connection to, and every year I try to pay my respects however I can. I don't care that I'm not an American. It's not about that, it's about thinking about all the people who lost their lives, and the affected friends and family.

One of the worst memories of my life so far.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: aloha73g
Posted 2013-09-11 16:30:58 and read 6699 times.

I was 18 in 2001 and had just started my senior year of high school. Here in Hawaii it had pretty much all happened by the time we woke up. One of my uncle's is an insomniac and was watching the 2am repeat of the 10pm news when they cut in after the 1st plane hit. A few minutes later after the 2nd plane hit he called my dad to turn on the tv....which he did, but he didn't wake me up until the 1st tower collapsed a couple of hours later.

I still remember my dad banging on the wall in the hallway yelling very loudly for us all to wake up, "2 planes crashed into the World Trade Center and the building just collapsed...WAKE UP!!" My sister and I had just been there 2 weeks prior on top of the WTC on our 1st trip to the east coast...seeing them collapse on TV was surreal, especially since the feeling of looking out the window from 110 stories was so fresh at the time.

We were glued to the TV until we left for school a few hours later. In most of my classes we watched TV news or talked about what had happened, though the Math department made us take a scheduled exam, which they later apologized for and threw out since most everyone failed.

I still remember seeing on the news the next few days shots of Waikiki Beach with not a single person on the sand...something I thought I'd never see.

-Aloha!

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: ECflyer
Posted 2013-09-11 16:35:11 and read 6707 times.

I was in 2WFC about 200 to 300 feet from the south tower. I was eating breakfast on the 20th floor when my colleagues all went to the windows to see printer paper streaming down. Looking up from the east face of our building one could see a massive hole towards the top of 1WTC and a fire breaking out. Around 9 am we saw the first of the jumpers.

Our building manager could not make up his mind about evacuation. I immediately called terrorism and my boss vehemently disagreed. As we argued, another colleague facing the south windows shouted (he could see N612UA closing on what appeared to be our building). What followed was the single loudest sound I have ever experienced, many of us dropped to the floor. Our fire stairs opened us onto West St, and we ran north in the southbound lanes. My last close up memory of the towers was watching firemen entering 1 WTC fire stairs at about 9:20 or 9:25.

The ferries pulled us over to Hoboken, and both towers were still up and really burning from my view in the middle of the Hudson. I got on a train that was departing Hoboken on the M&E and the first tower fell as we were departing the terminal. A fellow with an AM radio and headphones told us the Pentagon had been hit. Nobody's cell phone worked.

I worked from a warehouse in NJ for six months while they repaired the WFC. The day changed the course of my life, mostly by making me question things in a way people usually only do at 70 or 80. The results have been good--I really haven't wasted a day since.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: LXa332
Posted 2013-09-11 17:41:42 and read 6133 times.

I live about 7 miles from JST, and the UA93 crash site is less than 30 miles from me. We really weren't sure what was happening on 9/11. I remember that my family was shopping at the time, and everyone in the department store crowded around the TV sets. Everyone was just stunned.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: flymia
Posted 2013-09-11 17:51:50 and read 6034 times.

Quoting skycub (Reply 48):
We really don't want to talk about it.

We just don't.

I can understand that. In an aviation law class we had a former 727 cargo pilot come to class who currently works corporate for a cargo airline. Just the mentioning of 9/11 made him tear up and he never even flew for a passenger airline. It is a personal thing for many in the airline industry, especially those who worked those days. But it is also a personal thing for Police Officers, Firefighters and anyone else who takes it so. America was attacked, thousands of innocent people from around the world were murdered. It hit a lot of people hard.
Some don't mind talking about it. Some rather not. But...

Quoting skycub (Reply 48):
I don't expect the people on here who were barely born or who were just teenagers to understand... but for those us of who were in the business that day... it's a hard thing.

I know for a lot of people on here, it may just be a day of commercial aviation infamy....

I am sure it was a terrible day for those in the industry. I have heard the stories from pilots themselves. It is something that unless you were one of those people you can't understand. It was a horrible day for lots of people. Did 9/11 affect me like it did to people who lived in NYC or DC, were Police Officers of Firefighters or who in the airline industry? Of course not.

But I, and most people don't see it as a day of "commercial aviation infamy" we see it as the worst day of history we ever witnessed, as a day which changed the world as we knew it. I know 9/11 has shaped my life in many ways, from career choices to where I went to college to how I see the world in general. People my age may not have been affected on that day like many. (Of course there are plenty of people my age who lost family members) And yes many of us were young but we have grown up in this post 9/11 world and its a day which shall never be forgotten and one which I know has personally shaped who I am today. And that does not just have to do with it changing commercial aviation.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: PHX787
Posted 2013-09-11 18:06:04 and read 5866 times.

I was in 4th grade and they made an announcement for the teachers to check a pre-recorded voicemail on their phones. We were kinda confused, and we didn't know much. The teachers after hearing the voicemails went outside in the hallway and discussed what happened for what feels like forever, and this was probably around 9:30AM at the time. First class of the day for me (9:00 is when school starts)

At lunch, my homeroom teacher told us what happened in brief and we had a memorial service at the church in the afternoon (i went to catholic school)

I had piano that day, it was a tuesday. We did nothing but watch the TV...and that night we heard President Bush speak. I asked my mom "are we gonna go to war?"
This happened right after we began to learn about WWII and how the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. My mom responded "well, I hope not...but I hope they kill whoever did this."

A few weeks later, I remember it was October 7, they announced on the radio that the airstrikes on Al Qaeda had commenced.

And look where we are now.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: MtnWest1979
Posted 2013-09-11 18:14:19 and read 5796 times.

OK here is my small story:
As I live in Mountain time zone, I was still asleep when my mother called and the wife answered the phone. She came in and said 'your mom said all air space in US is closed.." and so forth. Naturally, I figured that she had it wring and that wouldn't happen and so on. Well, needless to say I found out otherwise as I got up and around.
As Tuesdays and Wednesdays were my off days, we had planned a trip to fly to Reno and drive up to Tahoe, watch the Little River Band that evening, and tour around the Lake and fly back to Boise on the 12th. So, I cancelled the car, concert, and motel and spent rest of day heading out to airport to see how things were and then watching tv at home for the day.
I remember vividly being out on front lawn late evening thinking how quiet at void of activity the skies were. It was a warm, starry, quiet evening.
As an aside, after getting the tickets for LRB bought, I saw around the 7th that they had added a show in Boise for the 19th. I thought "I wish they had done that before the trip was planned". Oh well. SO as it turned out, we went to the 19th show and it was very moving, especially during sax solo when they put in a rendition of the Star Spangled Banner.
Two things that I wish I had retained from then. First, the paper I had written all pertinent info on, with 9-11-01 on top, as I ripped it up I thought I should have kept this....., and second, we at Southwest had our fall timetables eff 9-12-01 out and I only have one copy. Wish I would have grabbed some more.
Anyway, that is it.

PS, with all of the stories of people travelling around the nation immediately after, I always wanted to read a book of various folks' accounts of their travels and stories as they got around w/o air travel for those few days.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: SANMAN66
Posted 2013-09-11 18:23:01 and read 5687 times.

I remember I was in my mid-30's at the time. I was still in the National Guard at the
time. After hearing the news at work, I rushed home and started packing because I
knew I was going to get a call.(The call came several days later.) What I remember
most about 9-11 was how there were no planes flying in the skies a whole week after
9-11. It was a strange feeling that day. I'll never forget the horror, I remember I sat
paralyzed the whole day watching CNN. The sight of those people leaping from the
towers is burned forever in my mind.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: mesaflyguy
Posted 2013-09-11 18:41:42 and read 5531 times.

I was only 4 at the time but I remember what happened in my family pretty well. I was picked up from pre-school by my father and was not aloud near the TV for the next few days. My parents didn't want me subjected to that.

Having an AvGeek father, he says that the days and weeks after were chilling, looking up to the sky and seeing NO airplanes, no jet-trails, NOTHING. Living 2 miles away from FRG and right under the CAMERON approach pattern into JFK, it was very eerie not hearing the sounds of jets going over and props going in and out of Republic.

Thankfully nobody I am related to was injured in the attack, but my aunt watched it happen from her apartment in the city. My uncle, an ironworker, recalls only finding body parts in the days following the attack. Not many actual bodies. My psych teacher shared a story with us today that his friend was in the North Tower. Luckily he was on the first floor, but he was so close to not making it out that the people running two feet behind him did not make it. My teacher's neighbor was killed when the south tower collapsed.

Here's a story of complete SH*T LUCK for you all; my friend from elementary school had an aunt that worked on one of the top floors of the North Tower. This aunt decided to take that day off and come for a surprise visit out on Long Island to see her family. Of all days, she took this one off that morning.

Even though I was not old enough to truly comprehend what was happening on that day, as I get older and more mature this day makes me sick to my stomach. Looking at pictures of the scenes makes my skin crawl. I saw a picture today of the two towers after plane one had hit, and in the background you see plane two approaching. I couldn't look at this picture for more than a few seconds.

I saw a picture today in school that truly showed something uplifting. It was a firefighter at ground zero with a dog licking his face. Dust and smoke fill the air behind them and both of them are COVERED in soot. In my mind this picture shows that, no matter what we go through, we will stand. We will always be there, in the face of danger, coming together to help each other. This picture makes me well up every time I think about it.

RIP to every single person involved and I continually pray for their families.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: AVENSAB727
Posted 2013-09-11 18:58:41 and read 5376 times.

I was 11 on this day 12 years ago, and remember how it was like. I was starting 6th grade, and I was in 1st period when we turned on the news. I did not know much about the Twin Towers at this point. But the pictures on the TV got to me. I remember when one of my family members(now deceased) came to visit shortly after that date. IAH was dead silent, not a plane in the sky. May god bless the heroes of 9/11 and bless the families of the victims.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: tjh8402
Posted 2013-09-11 19:04:33 and read 5322 times.

I was a senior in high school, just getting out of second period AP Economics. We had a break on tuesdays between 2nd and 3rd and I went into the library like I always did and the TVs were turned on. They weren't turned off the rest of the day. After lunch, the headmaster called an all school assembly and said classes were essentially cancelled and we could go home if we wanted.

It was weird...today I was helping teach a fire safety course for young kids and realized that most of them were not even born yet, or were too young to remember. I only hope that the significance of the day is passed on to their generation. RFB.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: flymia
Posted 2013-09-11 19:09:59 and read 5292 times.

Quoting tjh8402 (Reply 62):

It was weird...today I was helping teach a fire safety course for young kids and realized that most of them were not even born yet, or were too young to remember. I only hope that the significance of the day is passed on to their generation. RFB.

It certainly is weird. Even some of the posters in this very thread were too young to remember much. A friend of mine who currently works at the university I attended in D.C. said hundreds showed up to the memorial service for 9/11 today. I am mentioning this to you because the majority of those who attended where 6-9 years old at the time.

It is bound to become a day like December 7th one day, but it being civilians who were killed and now all you have to do is search 9/11 on YouTube and you can watching 10 hours of news coverage as if it happening today will make it different, at least for a few more generations IMO.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: AA94
Posted 2013-09-11 19:39:12 and read 5042 times.

I remember that day so vividly. I had just turned six. I remember my mom hustling me out of school before noon.

As she began to learn more about the attack, I can recall her worry increasing. Later, I would learn that this was out of concern for her coworkers. Her ex-supervisor at AA, Nydia Gonzalez, was the last person to speak to AA11 F/A Betty Ong before the aircraft crashed into the WTC.

Gives me chills to this day. May those who perished rest in peace.

Never forget.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: solarflyer22
Posted 2013-09-11 20:15:36 and read 4755 times.

That was a terrible a surreal day. It is still hard for me to believe someone I went to high school with was in the impact zone of the first hit. To this day I don't know if he died immediately or elsewhere. I can only imagine how soul crushing that is for his family. The world was such a innocent and fairly simple place beforehand. It is a real shame the future was hijacked by a few dumb terrorists. In short period of time we had Katrina, 2 wars and a financial crisis. Not every nation could have made it out that.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: b777erj145
Posted 2013-09-11 20:43:42 and read 4522 times.

I remember as it was yesterday. I was 10yr old living in India at that time. It was around 8 in the evening while I was doing my homework my neighbor's daughter came in with her phone trying to call her sister who, at that time, was living in NYC. We then turned on the news and saw it. I was so terrified.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: drmlnr1
Posted 2013-09-11 20:54:47 and read 4471 times.

Being a former AA employee that worked at both DCA and IAD this tragedy has special meaning to me. Working near the pentagon and the airport where 77 took off from, I feel personally connected. I am so proud to have worked for a company that bears the name American. To my former counterparts at UA, I take time out of my day to remember those who died on UA flights and AA flights. Today is a day about putting which airline is better aside, and stand together not as airline workers, but as Americans. RIP all who died. 77, may you fly forever in peace. I'm proud to be an american. I send my condolences to everyone at AA, UA, families, port authority of NY/NJ, NYPD, NYFD, pentagon employees and their families.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: Braniff747SP
Posted 2013-09-11 21:16:13 and read 4311 times.

Quoting BoeingMerica (Reply 11):

Thread is not working for me, after about 10 of the 400 responses the page just ends, but if you collapse the responses you can see all the responses. Weird.

Been that way for a while, not sure why.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: SANflyr
Posted 2013-09-11 21:36:06 and read 4194 times.

I was an architect working at the Pentagon. Started there in 1997....left in 2003. Last task there was Design Manager of the Memorial. I will never forget the horror and grief I encountered nor the days I escorted family members to the spot in the gaping void where their loved ones took their last breath. . This day, each year brings a rush of memories that I hope I can forget, and pray that I never do. This day is burned into my soul.
The strangest thing of all.... I was terrified to fly before 9/11. After, the fear was gone.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: jetblueguy22
Posted 2013-09-11 22:05:42 and read 4040 times.

Boy I feel like a young buck. I was in the third grade at St Mary's Grammar school in Waterbury, CT at the time. I remember waking up early that day because my little brother Timmy was born a couple days earlier and was going to come home from the hospital, I was so excited! Anyways, school started precisely at 9AM. But all of a sudden kids were starting to get picked up really early and the teachers seemed distraught. I couldn't figure out what was going on. Then at about 11 my dad came and picked my brother and I up. I remember getting into his vehicle and saying "Daddy what is going on?" He explained what had happened to my brother and I. I didn't quite grasp what was any of that meant. Then I remember going to his warehouse and turning on the tv in our little hang out area he had set up (basically a wooden crate for overseas moving shipments that my brother and I had a tv and playstation in) and watching them play the videos over and over. I was terrified. My brother and I grabbed one of the doors to the big box to protect us just in case. Well our dad came over and asked what was wrong. I said "Dad I'm afraid those evil guys are going to hurt us." He looked at his 2nd and 3rd graders and said "Oh guys don't worry about it. Everything is going to be okay. If any terrorist comes to my warehouse and tries to hurt you I will personally knock him flat on his butt(except that wasn't the word he used. Use your imagination ) and we can drive him to the police station and you will be heroes!" It wasn't anything extraordinary by any means. But it was just one of those things a parent can do to make you all better as a young child. I took my first airline flight a month earlier and that was where I fell in love with flying. I remember someone asking me if I wanted to still be a pilot. I thought it was odd. I thought the flight crew were heroes. Of course I wanted to be a hero!

Another aspect that really showed how the country came together was a couple days afterwords. My dad had one of the bigger moving companies in the area. He and a friend heard about how the rescue workers needed supplies. So my dad supplied his fleet of moving trucks and trailers and there was a fundraiser in the parking lot of my city for people to donate drinks, granola bars, and other supplies for the workers. It was unbelievable the amount of people that showed up. I never saw his warehouse so full. It was just jam packed with gatorade and snacks. There was a video on national news of his moving trucks in NYC dropping off all of the supplies. I thought it was so cool to see a truck with my last name on it helping the good guys!
May the victims forever be remembered and RIP.
Pat

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: twinotter
Posted 2013-09-11 22:15:29 and read 3984 times.

Quoting solarflyer22 (Reply 65):
In short period of time we had Katrina, 2 wars and a financial crisis. Not every nation could have made it out that.

Good god.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: 388crazy
Posted 2013-09-11 23:18:13 and read 3618 times.

I was 9 and living in Melbourne, Australia. I remember waking up and seeing my parents sitting on their bed in shock just listening to the radio with the news on the tv as well, it was a weird feeling.
When I turned up at school the teachers were in a class room watching the news, I also remember all the students worried something was going to happen here as well.

RIP to everyone who passed away because of this tragedy.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: DeltaMD90
Posted 2013-09-11 23:37:09 and read 3507 times.

I was in 6th grade, not really sure what class, but then we were all sent to the cafeteria. Being kids, we heard some weird rumors... Mexico invading the US was one of them, and the other was a guy shot up a Catholic church in ATL and we were gonna be sent home (we were a Catholic school near ATL and we were in danger, according to the rumors.) Teachers told us nothing. Got picked up by my friends' mom and she was explaining that my dad (an airline pilot, not even flying that day) was ok and I was really confused. Then she said something about a plane hitting the WTC and falling into the Pentagon (I was young, I had no idea.) Saw the carnage at my house but was really too young to really have it have an impact on me. Saw it all, knew it was bad of course, but the terror and sadness didn't really hit me at that age. It took years until I watched the news footage in depth when I was ~21 (~2011) to really put that horrible day into perspective

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: tjh8402
Posted 2013-09-12 03:32:06 and read 2407 times.

Quoting flymia (Reply 63):

It certainly is weird. Even some of the posters in this very thread were too young to remember much. A friend of mine who currently works at the university I attended in D.C. said hundreds showed up to the memorial service for 9/11 today. I am mentioning this to you because the majority of those who attended where 6-9 years old at the time.

It is bound to become a day like December 7th one day, but it being civilians who were killed and now all you have to do is search 9/11 on YouTube and you can watching 10 hours of news coverage as if it happening today will make it different, at least for a few more generations IMO.

Yeah 9/11 is definitely the first tragedy to happen in the modern media age which will affect its lasting ability. I'm sure the fact that we're still fighting the wars that sprang from it help keep people aware of it. Crazy, a soldier fighting in Afghanistan today could have been as young as 6 when 9/11 happened...barely old enough to remember. A big thanks btw to all US military personnel for your service, sacrifice, and bringing these savages to justice. That so many professions with a strong tradition of brotherhood, camraderie, and tradition suffered so many losses will probably help, as many will pass down the knowledge of the day, not just as an honor to those lost, but due to its educational value to prevent future tragedies within the professions (I'm talking emergency first responders as well people in the aviation industry).

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: dispatchguy
Posted 2013-09-12 03:42:12 and read 2392 times.

I was at American Eagle Flight Dispatch. My ground trainer had a birthday or his anniversary for the night before, and because we were working the Caribbean desk, the show time for that desk was like 0300. So on 9/11 our show was like 0700.

I'm driving in to the AA Flight Academy for work listening to a radio comedy show (Bob and Tom) in Dallas. When I got there, I remember the news woman said that reports were coming in that an aircraft, type unknown, had crashed into a tower of the WTC. I figured a 172 went no gyro in low WX, and bounced off the side.

When I get in, the dispatcher working the desk is already well into the days operation. I first pull an SLS*LGA to retrieve the LGA Metar (surface weather observation), and it was 10 and clear, huh? All of the airports around, all reporting 10 and clear. Pulled a satellite shot, and there wasnt a cloud over the US. I figure oops, and start setting up my operation.

About that time, a friend of the dispatcher who was working the early desk comes down from AA Mainline SOC upstairs and him and the other dispatcher were talking, and asks the dispatcher working to do a FLIFO on AA11, as he heard some commotion over it as he was leaving (he was a midnite dispatcher coming off of shift).

The response was FLT LOCKED OUT. The AA System manager locked it out after taking the first call from F/A Betty Ong onboard.

I ask where does 11 go, and the response was its a BOS-LAX Transcon on a 75. I then tell them what I heard on the radio.
Someone else hears us, and goes into the conference room, and CNN has the shot up of the two towers, with the one tower with the big 757 sized hole in it.

I said, there's AA 11.

About that time, the then Director of Eagle System Control comes over and we tell him what I heard and we found in DECS, and he starts making phone calls. The memories are blurry, but one of the routers was in the conf room (where the tv was) when UAL175 flew into frame and crashed into the other tower. Before we had an official word from on high, we started shutting down and keeping on the ground all of the American Eagle flights; within seconds of 175 going into the other tower.

I remember Don Carty, then AA CEO, running thru our office heading upstairs to the AA War Room (our office was a shortcut). I remember the Ft Worth SWAT Team, armed with M16s and Full Riot Gear, outside the door to our office within an hour of 175 crashing standing watch. I remember cancelling the rest of the day's Caribbean operation to SECURITY EMERGENCY, and the eerie quiet of no aircraft flying the approaches to DFW.

AAL11, AAL77, UAL93, UAL175, WTC and the Pentagon, Rest in Peace.

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: 777ER
Posted 2013-09-12 03:47:39 and read 2365 times.

The attacks happened while New Zealand was sleeping on September 12th. While waiting for the school bus at Wellington Central Railway Station, one of the senior students at college (high school) past me and told me about the attacks. I didn't believe him......till I got to college. In the library all the computers were on news web-sites and the local daily paper was crowded with pictures over the front page and first few pages. Every class that day we had the TV going and basically just watched the news all day.

RIP

Topic: RE: 12 Years Later. 9/11 Thread.
Username: ZKSUJ
Posted 2013-09-12 18:26:45 and read 1770 times.

Quoting 777ER (Reply 76):

I remember that. On the morning of the 12th TVs were on all over. I went to school for a mock English exam in prep for school cert. Only time ever the whole exam hall bowed their heads and had a prayer before the exam started.


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