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Topic: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: MAH4546
Posted 2002-06-01 21:45:37 and read 2251 times.

What US airports have exclusive, sometimes exotic, internatonal destinations that cannot be reached non-stop from any other US airport? I am sure JFK has many, but I'm especially interestead in hearing some of the odder routes (like Detroit's exclusive service to Windsor, Ontario).

From MIA, the following cities cannot be reached non-stop from any other US airport:

Belem, Brazil
Cali, Colomiba
Cartagena, Colombia
Iquitos, Peru (starts 24 June)
La Paz, Bolivia
Manaus, Brazil
Maracaibo, Venezuela
Salvador, Brazil (starts 02 July)
Santa Cruz, Bolivia
Porlamar, Venezuela
Valencia, Venezuela

I am sure Honolulu has some exotic ones as well.

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: Airplanetire
Posted 2002-06-01 22:02:07 and read 2211 times.

ATL has Stuttgart, Germany. Delta serves it nonstop daily with a 763. I don't think that Stuttgart is served by any other carrier nonstop from the US.

ATL also has Capetown (CPT), South Africa. It is the only US city with nonstop service to CPT. That is only going eastbound. A stop is required in Cape Verde going west. The routing is only nonstop to CPT a few days a week though. It goes ATL-CPT-JNB some days, and ATL-JNB-CPT the others. Coming to ATL, it is CPT-JNB-Cape Verde-ATL some days and JNB-CPT-Cape Verde-ATL on others. The flight is served by SAA's 744s.

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: BA
Posted 2002-06-01 22:02:45 and read 2211 times.

In Denver,

There is Mexicana's 1x weekly Zacatecas service. Not many cities in the US have non-stop service to Zacatecas.

I don't even know why Mexicana flies this route from DEN......

Regards

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: BA
Posted 2002-06-01 22:08:05 and read 2197 times.

HNL has Midway Island service 1x weekly on Aloha Airlines. Unfortunately since Midway Island airport is being shut down, the flight will be discontinued soon.

Very unfortunate.....

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: DeltaSFO
Posted 2002-06-01 22:09:22 and read 2198 times.

JFK has IST and ATH, both served by Delta as well as Turkish (IST) and Olympic (ATH). Perhaps the biggest European one out of JFK would be VCE, where Delta is the only carrier serving the route in addition to New York being the only city with nonstop service there.

However, I'd say MIA and SJU have by far the most.

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: Falcon Flyer
Posted 2002-06-01 22:10:16 and read 2191 times.

Who flies Detroit-Windsor ? All I know of is Jazz's Dash-8 flights to Pearson and some Skyservice charters to the Caribbean.

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: DeltAirlines
Posted 2002-06-01 22:30:42 and read 2180 times.

There are no DTW/YIP-YQG services.

Jeff

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: MAH4546
Posted 2002-06-01 22:36:17 and read 2181 times.

DeltaSFO, ORD also has non-stops to IST, Turkish 3x a week (and before 9.11 MIA did too  Sad)

Falcon Flyer, Northwest Airlink.

Airplanetire, your information is 100% correct, but, just to add, the stop is changing back to FLL this fall, so FLL will be the only city with non-stop from CPT, and ATL will be the only one with service too. And you are right about STG. DL did fly JFK-STG at one point, but it didn't work out.

BA, your right, not many cities have Zacatecas service. From what I found, only ORD also has ZCL service. LAX might, but I only checked for weekend service.

Here are some others I can think of:

San Juan to Herrera, Dominican Republic

JFK to Luxeumburg
JFK to Georgetown, Guayana (though MIA gets GEO this winter)
JFK to Nice, France
JFK to Cairo, Egypt
JFK to Casablanca, Morroco

Miami to Cordoba, Argentina (late summer 2002)

Ft. Lauderdale to Walker's Cay, Bahammas

Opa Locka (Miami) to Cape Haitian, Haiti

Watson Island (Miami) to Bimini, Bahammas

Anchorage to Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky, Russia

Los Angeles to Guangzhou, China
Los Angeles to Melbourne, Australia
Los Angeles to Auckland, New Zealand
Los Angeles to Noumea, NC
Los Angeles to Nagoya, Japan
Los Angeles to Fukoka, Japan (??)

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: MAH4546
Posted 2002-06-01 22:37:21 and read 2173 times.

My fault, I was confusing my Canadian cities. Northwest Airlink flies Detroit-London, Ontario.

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: BA
Posted 2002-06-01 22:44:13 and read 2165 times.

MAH4546,

LAX does have Zacatecas service, but that and ORD were all I could find for ZCL service.

Regards

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: STT757
Posted 2002-06-01 22:50:07 and read 2162 times.

EWR-Dubai on MH, it's being reinstated shortly if it hasn't already.
EWR-Glasglow (year round CO flight)
EWR-Oslo (SAS)
EWR-Birmingham UK (year round CO flight)

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: Continental
Posted 2002-06-01 22:55:09 and read 2152 times.

Thing is, who wants to go to all those places in South America??

Continental

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: Flyguy1
Posted 2002-06-01 22:55:38 and read 2156 times.

From JFK:
Amman
Kuwait City
Prague
Kiev
Malaga
Georgetown
Athens
Jeddah
Casablanca
Venice
Nice
Cairo
Accra
Helsinki
Luxembourg
Bucharest
Timisoara
I think these are all of them...

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: DIA77
Posted 2002-06-01 22:58:33 and read 2148 times.

MAH4546,
Who does the LAX - Noumea flight? Corsair?

If UA ever starts ORD-DEL, that would be another one to add to the list. With the current tension in the area, this is a longshot to happen soon.

Is Oslo still served only from EWR?
Another one I can think of is Accra-JFK on Ghana Airways (or is BWI the first stop, not sure). JFK probably has a lot more.

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: Connector4you
Posted 2002-06-01 22:58:46 and read 2147 times.

JFK-LUXEMBOURG, with Tarom Romanian

Cheers

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: Flight Level
Posted 2002-06-01 23:09:33 and read 2141 times.

Aeromar operates San Antonio-San Luis Potosi, Mexico.



 Big thumbs up

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: FATFlyer
Posted 2002-06-01 23:13:57 and read 2137 times.

ZCL also has service to SFO on Thurs and Sun. So that's a total of DEN, ORD, LAX, and SFO.

LAX also gets nonstop service to:
Nadi, Fiji. The only other US city with service is HNL.
Papette in Polynesia. Again only HNL also gets service.
Apia Samoa. Also only HNL.
Culican Mexico (CUL), no other US cities get a nonstop.
Aguascalientes Mexico (AGU), the only other US cities are DFW and IAH.

IAH and SAT get the only service to San Luis Pelosi, Mexico (SLP).

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: FATFlyer
Posted 2002-06-01 23:15:21 and read 2129 times.

Sorry, I meant San Luis Potosi.

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: MAH4546
Posted 2002-06-01 23:40:43 and read 2125 times.

STT757, Chicago has year-round service to Birmingham, UK on American (it did not operate for winter 2001/2002, however) and seasonal service to Glasgow on American. SAS suspened Newark-Oslo this past winter.

Flyguy1, JFK has no non-stop service to Kuwait City. Kuwait Airlines flies via London Heathrow. They also fly from ORD to KWI via LHR. Baltimore also has non-stop service to Accra, once a a week. However, I think Ghanna is gone now, so neither BWI or JFK have ACC service. There is also no service between JFK and Malaga. And someone correct me if I am wrong, but JFK-Bucharest is also not non-stop. Flights are all via Luxembourg or Timisoara.

Continental, clearly you have not been to all those "South American places". Cities like Iquitos, Manaus, and Belem, located along the Amazon River, are some of the most exotic in the world. And Cartagena, Colombia has some of the world's most beautiful beaches, while Porlamar, Venezuela is known around the world for its beaches, so much so that it has non-stop service to the European capitals of Madrid and Amsterdam.

DIA777, I believe it is Air New Zealand.

FATFlyer, correct me if I am wrong, but didn't Mexicana open up new Chicago Midway-Culican service this year?

One not-so exlcusive route, but I'll mention it anyway, is service to the island city of Roatan, in Honduras. Grupo TACA flies there from Miami and Houston, both only once a week. They used to fly New Orleans-Roatan too, up until recently.





Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: Frequentflier
Posted 2002-06-01 23:45:36 and read 2107 times.

Excuse me if I am incorrect, but I am almost certain that JFK has service to Malaga (Spain) on Air Plus Comet

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: MAH4546
Posted 2002-06-01 23:53:46 and read 2096 times.

Frequentflier, you are right, Air Plus Comet does fly JFK-AGP, but it is a charter service. There is nothing in the OAG showing scheduled JFK-AGP flights. None the less, Malaga wouldn't be exclusive because they also fly MIA-AGP charters.

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: MAH4546
Posted 2002-06-02 00:03:34 and read 2087 times.

Nevermind that, I was wrong. Service to MIA is charter, but JFK service is scheduled. JFK-AGP is not running right now, but will be back later this summer.

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: Flyguy1
Posted 2002-06-02 00:34:03 and read 2068 times.

MAH:
Check the OAG, Kuwait Airways flies nonstop from JFK-KWI on Sundays only. Also, Ghana was in JFK yesterday, though dont know how long that will last.

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: EE-Kay
Posted 2002-06-02 00:36:07 and read 2064 times.

Porlamar, Venezuela gets flights to Germany operated by Condor too.

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: Continental
Posted 2002-06-02 00:38:28 and read 2062 times.

I've been to Venezuela and Colombia. I don't want to offend anyone, but I was disgusted! There was poverty everywhere! Don't get me wrong, I'm not here to BASH! I just found that the country seemed to be in pretty bad shape!

Continental

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: Donder10
Posted 2002-06-02 00:45:54 and read 2050 times.

All Hong Kong and Singapore flights?

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: MAH4546
Posted 2002-06-02 00:46:15 and read 2053 times.

Flyguy1, thanks, that is interesting, never knew that.

Continental, Venezuela and Colombia are not perfect, I've seen some pretty disgusting areas of Bogota, Medellin, Maracaibo, etc. myself, but they have thier beautiful areas too, just like any American city. Unfortunatley, you are right, however, Venezuela and Colombia are not in great economic shape.

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: Donder10
Posted 2002-06-02 00:47:09 and read 2049 times.

Ooops.Didnt realise US only

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: Vickybiccy
Posted 2002-06-02 00:53:45 and read 2045 times.

At MAN (as far as I know)

Continental (Newark)
Delta (Atlanta) (??)

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: Lindy
Posted 2002-06-02 01:09:24 and read 2034 times.

Flyguy1 you said that those cities are only served from JFK?

From JFK:
Prague
Jeddah
Accra

Prague - EWR daily CSA A310

Jeddah - IAD daily Saudi Arabian Airlines B747-400

Accra - BWI twice a week Ghana Airways DC-10. Inbound flight is via JFK and outbound flight is direct to Accra.

Rafal

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: AMX
Posted 2002-06-02 01:12:15 and read 2030 times.

Phoenix Int'l Airport (PHX):

Guaymas/San Carlos Intl. (GYM) served by Mesa Airlines (Acft: DH8) (1 daily, 1 X6)

Tucson Int'l Airport (TUS):

Ciudad Obregon Intl. (CEN) served by Aerolitoral (Acft: SWM) (X7)


That's it I guess concerning Arizona's airports...



AMX

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: MAH4546
Posted 2002-06-02 01:26:12 and read 2022 times.

Lindy, CSA ended EWR-PRG service, which was 2x a week at its end, a few months ago. Saudi Arabian service between Washington Dulles and Jeddah is currently via JFK, though it does go non-stop on 15 June (summer only?). It operates only on Saturdays.

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: RogueTrader
Posted 2002-06-02 02:06:53 and read 2012 times.

IMO Continental has the most interesting route system of any US airline, mainly because of their Pacific/Micronesia/Asia division and their Mexican and Central American service. I think no US carrier serves more international destinations.

I think these routes fit the defintion of the thread, all flown by Continental:

(sorry I don't know the codes for these)

HNL - Majuro (Marshall Islands)
Guam - Truk
Guam - Cairns, Australia
Guam - Bali
Guam - Yap
Guam - Palau
Guam - Saipan (Saipan retains an unusual relationship to the USA, although not an American territory)
Guam - Fukuoka, Japan
Guam - Okayama, Japan
Guam - Niigati, Japan
Guam - Sendai, Japan
Guam - Sapporo, Japan

And from Houston:

IAH - Torreon, Mexico
IAH - Saltillo, Mexico
IAH - Tampico, Mexico
IAH - Veracruz, Mexico

kind regards,

RogueTrader

Topic: Miami-Cordoba?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Username: Jj
Posted 2002-06-02 02:37:51 and read 1997 times.

Who the hell is gonna fly this route????

Perhaps Southern Winds with their 767?

I'm afraid loadfactors are gonna be really low!

jj

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: MAH4546
Posted 2002-06-02 02:55:56 and read 1983 times.

Jj, Southern Winds will fly the route with the 767-300ER. It has not been decided if the flight will be EZE-COR-MIA or COR-EZE-MIA, but they have the DOT route authorites for both. If history repeats itself, load factors will be excellent. Aerolineas Argentinas flew MIA-COR with 747s up until 1996 until Iberia Airlines canceled it. A city of 1,5M residents, MIA has flights to South and Central American cities much smaller than Cordoba, such as Iquitos (400k), Tegucigalpa (950k) Cartagena (700k), and Paramaibo (216k). Yes, the current economic situation in Argentina does not shine brightness on Southern Wind's upcoming MIA service, but the demand between Miami and Cordoba is there, although not as much now as in the future.

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: Chepos
Posted 2002-06-02 07:35:12 and read 1931 times.

Here are some others for San Juan- SJU
-Tortola/ Virgin Gorda
-Canouan Islands
-Anguilla
-St. Kitts/ Nevis
-St. Vincent
-Martinique (nonstop)
-Guadalupe (nonstop)
-Casa de Campo/ La Romana
Chepos

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: MAH4546
Posted 2002-06-02 07:52:28 and read 1922 times.

Chepos, Philadelphia has service to St. Kitts and Nevis (USAirways weekly) and Miami has service to Casa de Campo/La Romana (American daily)

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: Chepos
Posted 2002-06-02 10:26:10 and read 1898 times.

The Philadelphia-St. Kitts route must be a very thin route.
Chepos

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: Acidradio
Posted 2002-06-02 11:24:32 and read 1885 times.

Well the most exotic route of them all: MSP-YQT on Mesaba! Amazingly, today it looked pretty full, which is very rare for that flight.

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: MAH4546
Posted 2002-06-02 17:07:18 and read 1836 times.

Cool, I never knew Northwest Airlink flew to Thunder Bay. Interesting. Plus, I believe Northwest's service between Minneapolis and Saskatoon and Northwest Airlink's Minneapolis-Regina service are both of those city's only links to the US.

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: Avion
Posted 2002-06-02 17:55:40 and read 1819 times.

From JFK: Geneva Switzerland and i think from EWR Lisbon.

Tom

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: MAH4546
Posted 2002-06-02 17:56:36 and read 1820 times.

Avion, yup. I can't forget we all forgot to mention Geneva! Although JFK also has Lisbon service on TAP.

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: Lowfareair
Posted 2002-06-02 17:58:38 and read 1814 times.

Vickybiccy: you forgot US to PHL from MAN on the A330.

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: BA
Posted 2002-06-02 17:59:18 and read 1815 times.

That is correct. JFK-GVA on Swiss (was operated by Swissair when they were still around  Sad) is the only North American route from GVA.

I flew on it a couple times. It was always packed full. Great flight.

Regards

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: FATFlyer
Posted 2002-06-02 19:46:44 and read 1782 times.

MAH4546,

If there was a Culican-Midway route it hasn't operated in several months. I checked the last couple of months of my Skyguides.

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: MAH4546
Posted 2002-06-02 21:11:16 and read 1772 times.

FATFlyer, your right. For some reason Culican striked me as one of MX's MDW destinations. They are GDL, ZCL, and MLM. (which adds another city to the ZCL destinations).

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: AirafriqueDKR
Posted 2002-06-04 16:50:28 and read 1719 times.

Tarom no longer flys via Luxemborg from New York. Currently they fly nonstop twice a week to Bucharest, and twice a week to Bucharest via Timisoara.

Ghana Airways does not fly nonstop from BWI to Accra. It is via Banjul.

Miami-Belem isn't non stop. It is via Manuas. However Belem-Miami is nonstop.

Currently there are no schedule flights right now between Miami and Porlamar.

Also Budapest is served only by Malev from JFK.


Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: MAH4546
Posted 2002-06-04 17:51:47 and read 1696 times.

DKR, you are right. Aeropostal's Miami-Porlamar service is seasonal.

Topic: RE: US Airports With Exclusive Int'l Destinations
Username: Cba
Posted 2002-06-04 17:54:01 and read 1697 times.

Flyguy1
IAD has nonstops to Jeddah also.


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