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Topic: HNL-MNL: Long Way For An A330-300
Username: 762er
Posted 2002-10-14 15:51:51 and read 2605 times.


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Did this airplane fly HNL-MNL nonstop. I know this routes is usually a 343. I didn't think a regular A330-300 could make this route with a descent load nonstop, as it is over 4,600nm. An A330-300X could probably do it, but Phillipine Airlines only owns the original version of the 333? What gives. Did they make a stop, or fly it empty? Thanks.

Topic: RE: HNL-MNL: Long Way For An A330-300
Username: 9V-SVC
Posted 2002-10-14 17:42:34 and read 2532 times.

Yes A330-300 can do it , its max range is about 5600 nm .

Topic: RE: HNL-MNL: Long Way For An A330-300
Username: Trickijedi
Posted 2002-10-14 22:12:24 and read 2402 times.

You're right, the HNL-MNL route is normally flown by an A343. PAL however is notorious for switching aircraft at the last minute, especially on domestic flights within the Philippines. So my only guess would be that the A330 in the pic was a last minute replacement.

Topic: RE: HNL-MNL: Long Way For An A330-300
Username: 762er
Posted 2002-10-15 13:10:12 and read 2277 times.

My question is, was this airplane able to fly hnl-mnl (4,600nm) nonstop with a descent load? My guess would be no, as phillipines airlines has only non igw versions of the 333. Either the airplane was extremely weight restricted, or it made a fuel stop on the way. Can somebody comfirm.

Topic: RE: HNL-MNL: Long Way For An A330-300
Username: Cedarjet
Posted 2002-10-15 15:19:47 and read 2236 times.

Dunno, after all Koreanair fly them from Seoul to Zurich.

Topic: RE: HNL-MNL: Long Way For An A330-300
Username: N79969
Posted 2002-10-15 16:19:40 and read 2218 times.

That is a lot of water to cross. I wonder what diversion fields are on the planned route. Also what ETOPS rules is it operating under?

Topic: RE: HNL-MNL: Long Way For An A330-300
Username: 762er
Posted 2002-10-15 17:03:56 and read 2203 times.

Korean only uses their A330-200s on the Zurich flight. Not the 300s.

Topic: RE: HNL-MNL: Long Way For An A330-300
Username: Bobnwa
Posted 2002-10-15 17:10:51 and read 2179 times.

The diversion airports would be Saipan, Iwo Jima, Guam. Wake, Johnson and Midway (not sure Midway is still open)

Topic: RE: HNL-MNL: Long Way For An A330-300
Username: LPL
Posted 2002-10-15 17:11:59 and read 2191 times.

Aer Lingus fly them from Shannon to LAX.

Topic: RE: HNL-MNL: Long Way For An A330-300
Username: Yyz717
Posted 2002-10-15 17:14:26 and read 2174 times.

Aer Lingus uses the 332 (not the 333) on Shannon-LAX.

Topic: RE: HNL-MNL: Long Way For An A330-300
Username: KL808
Posted 2002-10-15 20:07:00 and read 2118 times.

Could this be a flight that stopped in Guam.

There has been some news that PR wants to start operating Manila-Guam-Honolulu and back. Maybe this was a test run, or maybe not.

It could also be that one of the A343 had to be maintained in MNL, so they switched to the A333. I did not see this aircraft here in LAX, I doubt it was in SFO neither.

drew

Topic: RE: HNL-MNL: Long Way For An A330-300
Username: Je89_w
Posted 2002-10-16 08:31:43 and read 2067 times.

PAL however is notorious for switching aircraft at the last minute, especially on domestic flights within the Philippines. So my only guess would be that the A330 in the pic was a last minute replacement.

Yes, they replaced the A343 on that day because the 343's were "busy".

Je89 W. Big grin


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