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AI/IC Fleet Renewal Plans On Hold  
User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2696 times:

The Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) of the Indian Government today passed an order to delay the fleet renewal plans for Air India and Indian Airlines while they set up a sub-committee to study the need for fleet renewal.

The sub-committee will appoint a technical committee who will work with the technical advisory committees from the two airlines to determine the exact needs for fleet renewal and report back to the sub-committee who will then report back to the Cabinet committee in time for the next committee meeting next month.

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User currently offlineRjnut From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1193 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2678 times:

This is a joke, right?



User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2675 times:

You predicted yourself that it'd be forever-and-a-day before AI actually placed an order. I guess this is just confirmation  Sad

User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2662 times:

This is a joke, right?

I wish it was.  Sad


User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2625 times:

Just as I predicted. Useless dim-witted babus who are barely in charge of their own dhotis have through the vagaries of democracy been put in charge of multi-million dollar aircraft. Its no wonder that India is the pathetic mess it is.

User currently offlineBigmo747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 306 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2621 times:

1st we have a cabinet COMMITTEE, who will set up a SUB-COMMITTEE, which in turn will appoint a TECHNICAL COMMITTEE, who in turn will work with further COMMITTEES, who will then report back to the SUB-COMMITTEES, who will finally report back to the CABINET COMMITTEE, for a COMMITTEE meeting next month................my version....................

she sells, sea shells on the sea shore.......................

did AI go thru all of this when they ordered the 744's brand new from Boeing in the 1990's?? or did the COMMITTEES start working for those 744's in 1960??


User currently offlineAmmunition From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2002, 1064 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2586 times:

thats pretty funny stuff... the indian airline industry living up to expectation!


Saint Augustine- 'The world is a book and those who do not travel, read only 1 page'
User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 2539 times:

The media report on this development is here :

http://in.biz.yahoo.com/030115/77/202rz.html


User currently offlineIndianguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 2514 times:

I am also hearing rumours that the current Civil Aviation minister Hussain (who has performed well in his posting) is on the way out becuase he has fallen out with the Home Minister. The latest hurdle to the fleet expansion might have something to do with this fact.

Hussain is being replaced by one of two ex-filmstars, one a famous screen villain of the 70's (who is now Health Minister) or the "Dream Girl" who campaigned for the BJP in the Gujarat elections and is a favorite with the RSS.


I have said it before and i say it again:Time for Open Skies-II. As long as we have minsters running the show AI and IC are doomed.

-Roy


User currently offlineWingman From St. Vincent and the Grenadines, joined May 1999, 2099 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 2510 times:

Reads like a script right out of Saturday Night Live. It gave me the giggles.

User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12325 posts, RR: 35
Reply 10, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 2509 times:

Well, although I'm not surprised, it is at least a blessing that all this has to be done within a month.

These decisions are so important to India's economic future that they should really be accelerated. Can we expect a final decision soon after next month's meeting?

Why is this being entrusted to a security committee anyway - and who are the members of this committee? Surely the decision should be in the hands of the Aviation/Transport minister?


User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 2481 times:

The usual bunch of greedy ministers sensing a multi-billion dollar deal decided that they wanted a piece of the action too. Its India's "public servants" acting like the proverbial pack of hyenas they really are. Throw the RSS and its wretched tentacles in, and you have a scene right out of the Jungle book.

If the new aviation minister is to be Shatrughan Sinha, the ex-health minister, then AI and IC are surely doomed. The man is a blithering idiot.


User currently offlineThud From Pakistan, joined Aug 2000, 204 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 2417 times:

Jaysit,
He was a crap actor as well!!

BTW has India (DRDO I guess) ever toyed with the idea of manufacturing an airliner?


User currently offlineIndianguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 2416 times:


BTW has India (DRDO I guess) ever toyed with the idea of manufacturing an airliner?

HAL has made civilian aircraft under license before. The HS748 being the first(beginning 1969) , adn the Dornier 228 which began local production around '81(?). Today it s only built for the army and corporate airliner (quite a few corporate houses have them).

As for local designs NAL has built the prototype for a 14 seat (now being stretched to seat 21) turboprop called Saras for commuter airlines and ambulance use. I saw this aircraft at an exhibition, and it looks rather like a propeller driven DC9 with rear facing tail mounted engines, rather strange for a prop!

Then there is a 100-seat jet which is still on the drawing board. I saw 2 designs for this. One of them has a "Look Honey i shrunk the Airbus!" look and the inspiration is pretty obvious.

The other design (which has been approved) looks like a big fat piece of shit, possibly the ugliest flying machine ever built. A full size mockup of this was there at last years Aero India show and could be there this year as well.

Last i heard, HAL is talking to Indonesia (???) to get this thing moving! China I could understand, but Indonesia for building an airliner? Duh!

BTW the 100-seater was launched in 1983!

-Roy


User currently offlineThud From Pakistan, joined Aug 2000, 204 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week ago) and read 2399 times:

Roy,
Thanx. A most informative post.


User currently offlineTKMCE From India, joined May 2002, 841 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (11 years 3 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2390 times:

Roy
Dont forget the Indonesians do have some xperience (again not the prettiest ones around I guess!) with their spanish joint centure CASA.
Cheers


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