Demoose From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 1952 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2020 times:
Not just British Airways that could face difficulty. War with Iraq will have huge knock on effects, rising fuel costs, slump in air travellers, reduction in people booking holidays abroad. Heard recently from an employee at a major uk charter airline that should war occur it's going to mean alot of changes and reduction in capacity in an already difficult market.
Westjet_8 From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 451 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1994 times:
Personally I don't think the risk a war with Iraq is worth it. Only if the weapons insectors find something and the Iraqies refuse to destroy it should they be attacked, even then they should really think about. It would just crush the Airline industry.
FrequentFlyKid From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1206 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1970 times:
This isn't the forum, but it's defintely worth the "risk" to go to war. A greater risk would be to sit by idle. Iraq is a HUGE threat to not only the United States, but the entire free world. Our mistake was not finishing what we started twleve years ago today. It's now or never.....
AIR MALTA From Malta, joined Sep 2001, 2565 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1809 times:
Oh, Iraq is not a huge threat, the US are a bigger threat to all of us and their selves!!! I hope the UK won't follow them!!! Anyway, it's not the right place to discuss this issue but if war happens, it will be a nightmare for the airline industry! Europe would be the most affected place...
CPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 6214 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1677 times:
a huge threat? In what way? Saddam knows what'll happen if he uses whatever weapons he's got. The only time he'd consider using them, was if he's attacked, 'coz he sure knows that he won't survive the end of such a war.
Personally, I think that if a war doesa start (even withouth UN mandate), it'll mean not only the death of 2 or 3 European airlines, but also for a number of US airlines. It will, for sure, mean the final punch to US Airways & United.
Eg777er From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 1840 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1671 times:
BA's collapse would be catastrophic for the world - and I'm not just talking about the airline industry.
BA provides an essential link between the United States and the European Union. No other airline carries as many passengers across the Atlantic as BA. Closer to home, no airline could fly 50+ 747s and 50+ 777s for 'UK plc'.
If BA collapses, expect to see serious impact on world trade and the world economy.
SILVERSTREAK From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 281 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1625 times:
I hate the thoughts of Americans going to the Gulf again. I even hate more the world having to second guess a man like Saddam Hussein and his kind. His past actions to his neighbors and his own people have convinced me he is just pure evil. I don't like the current administration of my country, but I'm more tired of Saddam Hussein and his actions. Sadly, yes, all this could change the airline industry more than we know.
EA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 14072 posts, RR: 61
Reply 16, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1386 times:
Since we're already off-topic to some degree, here's my $0.02 worth:
This isn't about the U.S. saying they don't want Iraq to have weapons of mass destruction to defend itself with.
This is about the fact that if Iraq develops the technology to build nuclear weapons and/or other weapons of mass destruction, the current regime there would have absolutely no objection to selling some of them to terrorist organizations such as al Qaeda, Hamas, and the like.
THAT is the major problem, here. You have a regime that is actively using their nation's funding for R&D into becoming an international arms dealer with the intent on selling their wares to murderers.
That's also why the U.S. is handling Iraq and North Korea differently. The DPRK would love to have their own nuclear arsenal, but not for the reasons Iraq wants one.
"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem - government IS the problem." - Ronald Reagan
Cedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8357 posts, RR: 54
Reply 18, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1347 times:
Oh come on, if Saddam sold weapons (of which the inspectors can find no trace, lest we forget) to Islamic fundamentalists their first target would be Saddam. They hate him more than the US. The idea of a small and impoverished nation like Iraq being a threat to anyone, or selling weapons to it's enemies (ie OBL) is laughable.
BA, and indeed the airline industry, wouldn't be the only victim of the proposed war. None of us will be safe from terror attacks, and if we allow our elected leaders to kill thousands (at least) innocent people in our name with our tax dollars and pounds, why should we be safe from reprisals?
For the sake of hundreds of thousands of employees in tourism and other industries that will be out of work due to US (and UK) aggression, and the tens of thousands (or many more) who will lose their lives, let's hope reason prevails.
fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
Thomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 4119 posts, RR: 25
Reply 19, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1316 times:
Well as an an American and a Texan, I too hope that cooler heads will prevail. While I am a political conservative, I am by no means a huge supporter of the current administration. That said after 6-7 years of Hussein for all intents and purposes being left alone, building what he wants to build and terrorize who he chooses, well some action has to be taken. If left alone and US/UK forces were not present in such large numbers it would only be a matter of time before he made further aggressive moves against one of his neighbors, history has already proven this twice. So, like it or not something has to be done and military action has to be taken (and I am still hopeful that we may be able to pull back at the last moment) then so be it.
Whats that old saying? "Nothing makes an aggressor more aggressive, than appeasement" Remember Chambelain's 'Peace in our time' speech after meeting with Hitler.
Boeing757/767 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1311 times:
I would like someone to explain to me how Saddam is a "HUGE threat" to the United States. I'm not talking foreign or oil policy. I mean how does he pose a threat to U.S. soil? Scud missiles can barely make it to Israel.
The talk of "defending the U.S." is nauseating.
Anyway, I believe a war would end the life of a few U.S. carriers. Let's hope that's not the case.
GDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13386 posts, RR: 77
Reply 21, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1296 times:
BA has subsequently denied that it could go bust, but they are very concerned, as are those of us who remembered the effects of the first Gulf War, and then the US mainland had never experienced terrorism, so who knows what the effects will be this time when BA are much weaker.
Even after US aircraft attacked Libya in 1986, there was a drop off of mostly US pax, BA did a series of promotions that year to entice them back.
Arsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 19
Reply 22, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1286 times:
Doesn't Delta carry the most pax accross the Atlantic?
BA carries more pax across the atlantic than UA,CO,DL and AA COMBINED.
With war i agree there could be serious repurcussions for BA, this time though, airlines have had to go through the 9/11 phase and now this iraq war threat. It could finally be goodbye to United and US airways, and that to me as an aviation fan, would be quite depressing to see.