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New Airline For BHX And New 757 Operator  
User currently offlineAviatsiya From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3960 times:

The following information has been taken from the Aviatsiya group, and I have left it unedited as it appeared on there as I don't have time to write it up for these forums.

Firstly, whilst myself and a friend were chatting he came across this snippet of information:

"Kyrgyzstan Airlines has signed LoU with ILFC for 2 Boeing 757-200ER
aircraft. The first aircraft to be delivered 10 FEB 2003. The aircraft will be operated on Bishkek-Birmingham-Bishkek".

I then posted this
----

Howdy Andy and all

Whilst I don't doubt this news isn't accurate, this certainly throws a
spanner into the works regarding the Kyrgyz airline industry.

A couple of days ago someone on another forum asked about the airlines of
Kyrgyzstan and in doing some checking on these various airlines, I came up
with the following information. Anyone who has further information or
answers to the questions I pose, please feel free to jump in......

OK, here goes:

The A300 which was leased from Onur Air and was being operated by Kyrgyz Air has now, from all reports, been returned to Onur Air. Kyrgyz Air is now
reported to be operating a MD-83 on the FRU-MOW route at flight KT601. The
flights haven't yet started. Question: Does anyone know where this MD-83 is
coming from? I was thinking maybe Khors Air (Ukraine) but I read only 2 days
ago that their MD-83 has gone to another airline outside of CIS (can't
remember name).

In doing some background information on Kyrgyz Air, I was told that they
were getting some consultancy work done by a British firm called Aviation
Solutions. After looking at the AvSol website at www.avsol.com I came across
their client list. Yes, it lists Kyrgyz Air, but it also lists a company called Asia Express. Both Kyrgyz Air and Asia Express are displayed with the same code of KT.

Upon checking further, I have been able to find out that Asia Express isn't
a Kyrgyz airline (as I initially thought), but is actually based in Birmingham (their website is www.asiaexpress.aero). Checking with a few enthusiasts in BHX, I was told that Asia Express has advertised for crew locally in Birmingham and the aircraft being mentioned is the 767-300. Original plans for FRU-BHX flights was for the flights to be operated by KIA - Kyrgyzstan International Airlines, which we now know as Kyrgyz Air. Now it is being advertised as a UK-based carrier called Asia Express. The flights were advertised as being BHX-FRU-Amritsar and BHX-FRU-(Another point in India I can't remember now).

I have contacted both Asia Express and AvSol to no avail, so if anyone
(especially UK based members) have further info, can you please share it
with us.

But now we have plans by Kyrgyzstan Airlines (R8) to re-commence flights to
BHX. Surely this would have to have a negative effect on any plans by Asia
Express/Kyrgyz Air to start FRU-BHX flights.

Any info/opinions/comments welcome

Cheers

Aviatsiya/Авиация

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User currently offlineBhxforever From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2001, 564 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3546 times:

Have there been any start dates announced?

User currently offlineBhxforever From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2001, 564 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3545 times:

Have there been any start dates announced?

User currently offlineAviatsiya From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3462 times:

No start dates have yet been announced. Obviously it will be after 10 Feb.  Laugh out loud

However, I was chatting with my Amadeus buddy, and he tells me that no flights are yet loaded into the system for R8's impending FRU-BHX. He has a feeling that they won't be either until the aircraft are delivered to the airline in February. And although I can't disclose particulars here, I can understand fully why he says this.

I must say though, that when I asked my contact in Bishkek about all of this, she had absolutely no idea what I was talking about. I found that somewhat unusual, as she is in a position of management which would be advised of such plans.

As soon as I can get further info, I will post it.


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3443 times:

LoU with ILFC for 2 Boeing 757-200ER

too bad there's no such aircraft  Big grin


User currently offlineBhxforever From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2001, 564 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3372 times:

I doubt this will ever materialise, we hear loads of rumours about bhx but never see anything

User currently offlineBHXviscount From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2002, 166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3352 times:

Heard today that Asia Express are having problems aquiring the ex SAS 767 and are to opt for 2 757's instead, this may be a reason for the 4 times weekly BHX-FRU service being deffered from Jan start to late Feb/early March, though with 2 757's they could go daily?!? anyone heard more or can confirm?
Another rumour I heard last year was that the 'KIA' airline (NOT R8) were to use 737-200's out of FRU to the indian-subcontinent and feed out/into Asia express's 767.
As to R8 returning well this could be another one of those BHX rumours although they withdrew their A320/TU154 service as they had "no suitable aircraft"- the service routed via minsk! A 757 would fit the bill though .....
Personaly I would love both airlines to start up as BHX has a huge asian market- emirates have woken up to this fact and are to go from daily to double daily from Oct 03, I just wish others would take a long term comitment especially AI been gone over a decade now we need you back.....
We still have Uzbek and Turkmenistan and PIA though  Smile



BHXviscount



No officer, its NOT a surface to air missile its a camera..for taking photographs.
User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3339 times:

LoU with ILFC for 2 Boeing 757-200ER

too bad there's no such aircraft


Yes there is......


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3314 times:

Yes there is......

Hate to break this to you... but contrary to what many a CO-crazed aviation fan might want to believe... there is no such thing as an IGW 757-200. There isnt now, and there certainly wont be later.

Granted, a relatively modern ETOPS -certified 752 equipped with RB211-535E4B can fly further and with more weight than a 20-yr-old 753 powered by PW2037.... but that's basic fortification of the model, not a difference between an A-market and Extended Ranged aircraft.


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3358 times:

20-yr-old 753

typo... make that 752


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3347 times:

ETOPS-capable 757s are often called 757ETs/ERs and while there is no increase in gross weight (other than natural growth of the product over time) they can still be defined as ERs. ETOPS 757s nessecarily come with different equipment from non-ETOPS models and while not sticking to the standard -ER definition ETOPS-capable 757s can certainly be called 757-200ERs and are certainly called that commonly enough for the media to be right in this case.

User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 11, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3353 times:

BA have some 'ER'models due to their previous excersions across the Pond.

User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3281 times:

Aren't they gone now?

The "ER" modles (happy ConcordeBoy?) were ex-BCAL machines, weren't they? AFAIK BA are only keeping a few of the most recent 757s, which certainly don't include the BCAL machines.


User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7370 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3256 times:
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BCal didn't have 757s....you're thinking of the A320s!

David


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3180 times:

Where did BA's 752"ETs" come from?! *confused* I'm sure they weren't BA-ordered machines. BCAL orders?! Dan-Air orders?! This is bugging me now.

User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24927 posts, RR: 56
Reply 15, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3178 times:

Some of Britannia's 757s are 757-204ER a/c  Big grin


When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
User currently offlineDavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7370 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3153 times:
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I believe BA's 757 are their own i.e. -236s ! They might have had them modified?


David


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3150 times:

G-BPEI G-BPEJ G-BPEK G-BPEC G-BPED G-BPEE G-BRJI are the -236ERs I can find. BA have operated a lot of those at one point (apart from G-BRJI), although Caledonian operated G-BPEC....

I still think BCAL (or Caledonian when owned by BA....) ordered the 752ERs.


User currently offlineCraigy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 1118 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3109 times:

On Bill Hams' census, BA's are listed as ETs and Britannia and Air 2000 are ERs
Craig.


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