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User currently offlineJvW From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 173 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1749 times:

Strange to see these B767 with Rolls Royce engines mounted under their wings. PW and GE engines are just so common all around the world...


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Why were the RR engines such a failure with the airlines?

JvW

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User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 1623 times:

I don't think the RR engines for the 767 were a "failure". I think that RR was just the "short kid in the tall crowd".

But you're right......I don't know of a major other than British Airways and Qantas getting their 767's with RR's on them.


User currently offlineKFRG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 1614 times:

Not very popular with the airlines for popularity, and technical reasons.

-Tom


User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24923 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1535 times:

However, the RR engines seem the prefered choice for , B757,B777 and A330 operators  Smile


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User currently offlineMr AirNZ From New Zealand, joined Feb 2002, 855 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1524 times:

I understand that the RR engines on the 763 are much heavier than the GE and P&W and that was one of the reasons they were not as successful. Just A side note. The 7 Qantas RR 763's are all ex-BA machines and the rest of the -300 fleet has GE's.

User currently offlineN79969 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1402 times:

Some of QFs 767s are also PW powered. They have the distinction of operating all three engine types on their 767s.

User currently offlineRick767 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 2662 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1383 times:

Only BA and China Southern(?) ordered 763s with RR engines. They are a bit heavier than the GE or PW powered a/c, and they don't burn any less fuel.


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User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1355 times:

If I'm not mistaken the extra weight also created cracks in the pylons on the BA birds.


User currently offlineN79969 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1333 times:

Looks like China Yunnan in the picture above. Are RB211 engines heavier in general than their GE and PW counterparts?

This is a bit off topic but I read that the Trent 800 is about a 1,000 lbs lighter than a GE90 and is a selling point.


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1227 times:

However, the RR engines seem the prefered choice for , B757,B777 and A330 operators

True, RR was the undoubted favorite engine choice for the 777 A-market; but RR is quickly losing ground to GE in newer 777ER/LR orders and may have already been surpassed.

Of course, GE's exclusivity on the 59 current 777NG has helped it with this, but the Trent895's embarrassing inability to gain orders outside of BA (go figure.. oh, and there's the small one by LY) has also allowed the GE90-94B to sail by in the 93,000lbs+ category as well.


User currently offlineBrons2 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3010 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1214 times:

It also offers less thrust then the GE or PW powerplants, according to Boeing's web site.

PW4062 63,300 lb
GE CF-6-80C2B7F 62,100 lb
RR RB211-524H 59,500 lb



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