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757-300 Shortfalls - Fact Or Fiction?  
User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2832 times:

I've been hearing conflicting statements regarding the 757-300 with certain airlines. That they are having problems with them, performance shortfalls, etc.

Can anyone shed light on whether these statements are true or not? I haven't heard anything recently, so I was just curious.

Regards

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User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2808 times:

I talked to a Northwest worker at DTW who said that the 753s could only reach 29,000 ft or something like that.

Another problem was that they couldn't fit the galley carts through some of the doors.


User currently offlineAsqx From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 615 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2769 times:

Well, considering that the NW 753 I was on last sunday climbed directly to and cruised along at 33,000ft according to the pilot, I don't think they have problems reaching cruise altitudes over 29,000 ft.

Other than starting to board about 5 minuites earlier, I didn't notice any differences between the 753 and the 752.


User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2700 times:

I'd be hesitant to believe the problem about the galley carts fitting through the doors. They are the same doors that are on the 752.

User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 4, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2681 times:

They are a cash cow for Continental

Jeremy


User currently offlineBoeing 747-311 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 795 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2676 times:

Is there really that much difference between the 752 and the 753, or is it just about the same as u guys said above?


Come fly with US
User currently offlineBraniff727 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 686 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2677 times:

I can't speak for the other airlines since they don't have the PW's, but man let me tell you that plane is a rocket!

Not only that's it's very. very quiet! The aisles seem narrower to me, but that also might be an optical illusion. Other than that I think the plane is fantastic personally.



Climbing
User currently offlineSkyway1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2669 times:

I haven't heard of any complaints of the 757-300's flying for ATA. ATA's 300's are configured for 247 seats and many of the flights they operating have been packed to the gills.

Chris  Smile


User currently offline762er From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 542 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2648 times:

ATA's seem to be great performers. They fly 2,000+nm trips with descent loads and take off from short runways (OGG, MDW). The only complaints I've heard are from NOrthwest regarding the Pratts.

User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2638 times:

What has been the problem with the P&W's?

User currently offlineFly707 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 350 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2497 times:

Boeing 757-300 is a great a/c & I think it will find new operators soon .

Regards .



Without mistakes we will never learn
User currently offlineMls515 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3076 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2459 times:

I was on TZ640 on New Year's day. For some reason it was downgraded to a very packed 757-200. Anyone know why?

User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 2447 times:

The RUMOUR is that PW-powered 753s don't have sufficient bleed-air to maintain cabin pressure. This has nothing to do with the aircraft itself, rather the engines. PW-powered 753s are rare (NW only?) and there are rumours ranging from NW returning all 753s to the entire story being a fabrication.

Certainly RR-powered 753s don't suffer from this problem, if one exists. NW is still flying 753s so there is deffinatly no BIG problem, and it'll be interesting to see if Pratt upgrade the PWs.

The 753 seems to be performing well at other airlines. It SHOULD have an incrediably low seat mile cost.


User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13634 posts, RR: 62
Reply 13, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2382 times:
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Boeing nut-

C'mon, you know better than to believe the latest "rumor-du-jour" from the anti-Boeing crowd!  Big grin

It seems that lately they love to pick on any new Boeing products. Do a search and you'll see all sorts of "rumors from sources" who say the (insert Boeing product here) is a dog, doesn't hit the numbers the company promised, etc.

The most popular one to pick on has been the 764, with the 739 and 753 pretty far behind.



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User currently offlineMax Q From United States of America, joined May 2001, 4643 posts, RR: 19
Reply 14, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2381 times:

I've only flown the 753 twice but I can assure you it has no performance problems whatsoever with the RB211 and it's an unbeatable low cost performer
on the routes CAL use it on

FL350/370 is usually not a problem, the only problem is we don't have more of them yet, anyone have info on Continental's options?



The best contribution to safety is a competent Pilot.
User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16883 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2351 times:

When the industry stabalizes and starts seeing profits again (not for another year or two) I think AA and DL might be in the market for 757-300s.

DL could use them effectively against the LCCs, and to possibly replace older domestic 767-200s flying out of ATL.

AA might be in the market for both the 757-300 and 767-400 for their Latin and Caribean routes as a replacement for the A-300s.



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 2274 times:

DL's another character that might be interested in PW-powered 753s as well  Sad

User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8018 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2244 times:

The only downside to the 757-300 is that even when the economic environment for airlines improve there isn't going to be much interest due to the fact the 753--being a single-aisle plane--will take too long to load and unload passengers even with dual-jetwalk gates. Small wonder why LH wasn't too interested in using them as A310 replacements, either.

User currently offlineIahcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3449 posts, RR: 42
Reply 18, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2245 times:
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CO has four 753's in service and eleven more on order (currently deferred until Gordon knows when.... ). CO's turn time for these 'flying bowling alleys' is 65 minutes ... Compared to 55 for the 752.


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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13634 posts, RR: 62
Reply 19, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2218 times:
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I bet CO could get those turn times down to 45 and 50, respectively. Their people are the best.


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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13634 posts, RR: 62
Reply 20, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2217 times:
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That's 45 for the 752 and 50 for the 753, I mean.  Smile

And speaking of 753 orders, CO seriously needs at least 20 total in the fleet.



"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem - government IS the problem." - Ronald Reagan
User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16307 posts, RR: 56
Reply 21, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2216 times:

I agree that AA, DL & UA will show interest in the 753 (and AA/UA the 764) once their finances improve in 2-3 years.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2201 times:

I agree that AA, DL & UA will show interest in the 753 (and AA/UA the 764) once their finances improve in 2-3 years.

The 753, probably... the 764 may run into difficulty should Boeing give the go-ahead to its new "super efficient" model.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16883 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2088 times:

CO is taking delivery of another (for a total of five) 757-300 next quarter.


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